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Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
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WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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Hi,
I've had my Galaxy Nexus for about a year and have just been running stock Android. I would like to try installing a custom ROM on my phone.
I am planning on using Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit program to unlock and root my phone.
Now, to my question. There are so many ROM's available that I feel overwhelmed when trying to choose which one to use. My only requirements in a ROM is that it has to be stable and give good battery life. Can someone recommend a good one for me to try?
Thank you!
Its hard to anwer it because everyone has its preference since every device acts differently with certain ROM. For example, I use OmniMetal and Im pretty satisfied how it works. You should try few ROMs and find which one suits you best. Read some topics, decide which options you need, and which you dont, which Android version you prefer... Maybe you should start with some standard ROMs such as CM, AOKP, AOSPA...
As I alread said, its question that is hard to answer, and its also disrespectful to every dev since they are all doing it for free
Over the Air said:
Hi,
I've had my Galaxy Nexus for about a year and have just been running stock Android. I would like to try installing a custom ROM on my phone.
I am planning on using Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit program to unlock and root my phone.
Now, to my question. There are so many ROM's available that I feel overwhelmed when trying to choose which one to use. My only requirements in a ROM is that it has to be stable and give good battery life. Can someone recommend a good one for me to try?
Thank you!
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I'm a guy like you who don't want the hassle of updating the rom every week or so. I moved to cm11 from stock 4.3 rom. But flashing a new nightly every other day to be up to date is not my thing. I do follow forums regularly but don't not a flash-a-holic. I know cm11 is very stable and i can stay on a milestone release. But knowing that an update is a available is available makes my hands itchy to flash it. Suddenly shiny rom 4.4 appeared on our threads. It's close to stock. Just like how stock 4.3. Been running shiny from a month. No issues as of now. Paired shiny rom 4.4 with dirtyv and my phone is smooth.
If you are looking for a stable rom like stock 4.3. I'd recommend you shiny rom.
If you want a fully optimised featured rom, go with cm, omni, liquid smooth, vanirs, pa etc. Let me tell you. Every 4.4 rom out there is smooth and stable. But flashing roms every week to be on latest is not my thing. So i settled with shiny 4.4.
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Godra said:
... and its also disrespectful to every dev since they are all doing it for free
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Oh! I am sorry. I did not mean to offend anyone.
siddardha21 said:
If you are looking for a stable rom like stock 4.3. I'd recommend you shiny rom.
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Thanks! I will give Shiny ROM a try.
I mean, anything that says STABLE on the thread title or thread will let you know. SlimKat is stable and it works great.
Once you decide on which ROM to run I highly recommend installing gravitybox using Xposed Installer, which will give you just about every customization/feature/option that's available on most custom ROM builds.
Seriously almost evrry rom is stable. I cant think of one that isnt..
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If you want stable kitkat on your gnex just flash latest cm 11 nightlie otherwise just use stock jb 4.3 with xposed installer an gravity box module for extra customization.Forget about every other custom rom because cm is the godfather of roms an usually way ahead in development.
fux0r99 said:
If you want stable kitkat on your gnex just flash latest cm 11 nightlie otherwise just use stock jb 4.3 with xposed installer an gravity box module for extra customization.Forget about every other custom rom because cm is the godfather of roms an usually way ahead in development.
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Can't say anything against that, only custom rom I've tried and I see no reason to change it. The nightlies get updated OTA wich is smooth as silk.
Like others have said, if you are looking for a ROM with a few more customization features than stock, CM11 nightlies are pretty stable. I'd recommend starting with that and see how your device responds. I had been on the omni based ROMs for a while but I just tried the new Paranoid Android Beta 6 ROM by sd3993 and it is running so smooth. Almost all other ROMs I tried had slight issues like the music stuttering when I turned on/off my screen, which I haven't seen on this ROM. I have yet to see how battery life fares, but it is performing spectacularly in terms of smoothness. Once you have found a ROM that is to your liking, then maybe research flashing some kernels and start unlocking some true power on your device. Good luck in your search!
Thanks for all the replies! :good:
I'll go ahead and add Slimkat and CM 11 to my list to try.
isajoo said:
Once you decide on which ROM to run I highly recommend installing gravitybox using Xposed Installer, which will give you just about every customization/feature/option that's available on most custom ROM builds.
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fux0r99 said:
If you want stable kitkat on your gnex just flash latest cm 11 nightlie otherwise just use stock jb 4.3 with xposed installer an gravity box module for extra customization.
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This is the first time I've heard of gravitybox and Xposed installer. Has anybody a got a link to a good walkthrough?
rauldom333 said:
Once you have found a ROM that is to your liking, then maybe research flashing some kernels and start unlocking some true power on your device.
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Thank you, I will read up on flashing kernels.
fux0r99 said:
If you want stable kitkat on your gnex just flash latest cm 11 nightlie otherwise just use stock jb 4.3 with xposed installer an gravity box module for extra customization.Forget about every other custom rom because cm is the godfather of roms an usually way ahead in development.
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gravitybox doesn't have custom animations right? i quite like that in OmniROM..
I'm using parandoid android, it's still on beta, but for me is the best, very smooth, and stable
I'd recommend CyanFox. Its stable, good amount of customizations and feels quite snappy on my nexus. Also, gapps are integrated...
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I'm using omnimetal rom. It's smooth and have a special feature--multi-window. The rom is also stable, no reboot or any serious problem.
custom ROMs for HTC one V (differences, bugs, info)
Hello,
I am new to this site, and new to this thing, but I am interested to update my HTC one V with some custom ROM (jellybean or higher) and I wanna know some info about which one is the most stable and popular one, with no bugs or trivial bugs.. It is frustrating because they are plenty of ROMs and kernels here.. and what is the difference between AOSP and AOKP version? somewhere I read that aokp is less stable but better... I actually want features included RAM and CPU clocking, because this is the coolest thing in these custom ROMs.. :cyclops:
- I have HTC one V (GSM) rooted and bootloader unlocked
- I have CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed
- I have official android v4.0.3
so which ROM you guys prefer to me and which kernel that goes along? and is my CWM version OK or I need other one?.. I really want to get more of this phone than I am getting now.. it's a really nice phone but it's a bit lazy when operating tasks, so it's not for impatient users
I am new to this, but I somehow succeeded to root my V, thanks for detailed instructions on this site, so thanks to you guys ..now I just have to update my ROM, and I will be more than happy
Get kitkat and you'll be happy
It's really fast, mostly bug free and gets security updates...
I use lollipop personally and I like material design to much to go back.
jonas2790 said:
Get kitkat and you'll be happy
It's really fast, mostly bug free and gets security updates...
I use lollipop personally and I like material design to much to go back.
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yea, which one? can you give a lil more explanation to a noob I have so much questions in my mind.. all day reading, now I am even more confused.. so many "dev" terms I am not familiar with..
I am afraid I will kill my HOV as I am reading some reports of black sreen or won't boot... but the hell with it, I need to do it, because I have a cool ant camera which app only works with 4.1
help?
balaz23 said:
yea, which one? can you give a lil more explanation to a noob I have so much questions in my mind.. all day reading, now I am even more confused.. so many "dev" terms I am not familiar with..
I am afraid I will kill my HOV as I am reading some reports of black sreen or won't boot... but the hell with it, I need to do it, because I have a cool ant camera which app only works with 4.1
help?
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You can't (you really can't) brick your phone by installing a recovery, rom and a kernel.
It's really easy. If your still using the stock rom (rooted or not), you first have to unlock your bootloader. This is important because with a locked bootloader you can't overwrite to parts of your storage.
Just search for some guides (like this one) and only do the unlocking of the bootloader, not the rooting.
After unlocking the bootloader, flash a custom recovery (this is the newest version of TWRP, a popular recovery).
Then you reboot into the recovery and install any custom rom you like. Then you reboot into the bootloader again and flash the kernel for this rom, because the recovery can't do this.
And now you're finished. Just reboot and you'll have your new system.
If you need help with something, just use some guides here in the forum, those things have been explained thousands of times
Oh, and don't forget doing a backup of your data before. It will be deleted when installing the rom.
By the way: "rooting" means gaining root access on your system by using some vulnerability in the system. Root access is a bit like the admin user on windows, it can do everything and has no limits. But rooting only affects your current rom and is only needed in the stock rom. Most custom roms already have root access enabled.
can with only TWRP flash CyanogenMod 11? I see in the post is written that need latest TWRP to flash this ROM..
but I have already CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed. So shall I delete it? What is the difference between TWRP and CWM?
balaz23 said:
can with only TWRP flash CyanogenMod 11? I see in the post is written that need latest TWRP to flash this ROM..
but I have already CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed. So shall I delete it? What is the difference between TWRP and CWM?
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TWRP has much more features and has touch support.
Yes, you need twrp, because it's much newer and has selinux support, which is required for installing.
Install this TWRP by rebooting into bootloader and flashing with: "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" (replace recovery.img with the image you want to flash.
which kernel shall I use after installing your CM11 ROM? which you prefer is better or stable in general?
balaz23 said:
which kernel shall I use after installing your CM11 ROM? which you prefer is better or stable in general?
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There is only my kernel (included in rom-zip) and Shoaib05's kernel which isn't developed anymore. Try out which one feels faster.
jonas2790 said:
There is only my kernel (included in rom-zip) and Shoaib05's kernel which isn't developed anymore. Try out which one feels faster.
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I have used dedicated kernel in zip, it is ok without issue, pretty fast, running for a day now.
btw... I was just considering if I could push the clock of CPU a bit more.. is it possible or it's already done OCed with this kernel? ...is there some app for that maybe?
balaz23 said:
I have used dedicated kernel in zip, it is ok without issue, pretty fast, running for a day now.
btw... I was just considering if I could push the clock of CPU a bit more.. is it possible or it's already done OCed with this kernel? ...is there some app for that maybe?
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If you enable developer options you get a performance settings menu in the settings. There you see the kernel is overclocked to 1200 MHz by default, which is still ok on most devices. For my phone it's no problem to go up to 2 GHz, but 1200 MHz is enough for me.
all good, but MMS messages don't work, can't download them.
is this a bug in CM11?
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
frankx85 said:
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
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First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
CM and ports require more attention whether it be developer, user or both.
Stock-like TW narrows it down for you. IMO, the two most active and capable developers in TW for Sprint Note 4 are tx_dbs_tx and freeza. They both have released very stock and also modified ROMs. Then there's OBAR that got a lot testing and users as well to make sure the bugs were squashed; still has support and also user community support.
If you don't want to get into kernel tweaking but want something with default and optimization out of the box- better than stock, consider freeza's Beastmode kernel or the newer Rage kernel that is integrated in Note 4our ROM (Don't be put off by the beta; it's stable but more customization is expected). Otherwise, take your pick and run the included kernel or choose another custom Android 5.1.1 kernel like AEL or Emotion for Sprint Note 4.
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
I couldn't narrow it any further than this. You'd have to decide yourself or try as many as you like to make a definitive decision. Lots of choices and opinions vary; that's a good thing.
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jhill110 said:
First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
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Yes it's new and running 5.1 already.
samep said:
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
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Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
beezar said:
Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
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IMO, they're equal on battery.
Rage may be slightly better on multitasking but there's extra scripts in play with the integrated ROM.
No lag but I've ran freeza kernels since Beastmode because they're close to stock with no setup to tweak.
Prior to that, I preferred stock kernel but thanks to Samsung, can't run it with root anymore. No recent compare to AEL or Emotion.
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Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
If you are happy with stock, why change it??
I use custom ROM just for ease of theming. And some shuttle customisations.
Lineage OS does not include theming, so i won't go for it. If you want to experiment, try something with OMS7 theming baked in. My daily driver is ABC ROM.
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
tobir97 said:
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
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1st mate welcome to stock community of android, that happen when you buy a nexus(pixel now) , stock rom is perfect!! i change time to time roms, now i use stock/lockbooloader. there 2 reasons,well if you like more..... the are 2 tipes of ppl...
lets start form the basic.
1) why you pick a nexus? the most classic answer to this is.... cose i like the stock experience(true that is great) and cose is the only devices that take 1st and fastest updates for 2 years(true that too )
2) and now comes the question. sould i root my nexus? and why i do this, the phone feels great, is fast and not lag at all.
the answer to this is cose with an unlockbootloader a new world opens to custom roms,kernels,mods/apks/themes. yes the icons and feels is more or less the same... but is not the same 100%!!
so in your case think what realy you want from a custom rom before you unlock the bootloader, the reason that some times i root my nexus is 3....1)cose i like to have a tone of customaze in settings/nav bars/themes etc 2) i like the daily or weekly updates God i love the icon in notification bar when i see it LOL.. 2)and finally some better battery life with a custom kernel!!
so next time think what you want from a custom rom!!
i have test a lot of them!!
if you like customized settings etc LOS(lineage os) is not good! los is stable/daily rom with daily updates/support with some extras in settings but not big deal, is close to stock when it comes to customized!!
full customazed roms and good for daily use is DIRTY UNICORNS D.U // RESURACTION REMIX A.K.A RR // TESLA,VALIDUS ROMS // BLISS ROM // AND OFC PURE NEXUS P.N
but other roms like android ice cold project a.k.a A.I.C.P and Mokee rom is good fast or daily support updates.
p.s sry for my bad english!! i hope to help you!
crazyates said:
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
I wrote this question for my pixel last week. It's probably bc I've been flashing for a long time but it's nice when things work correctly which sometimes doesn't happen with custom ROMs. For me I've been happy with stock but with a custom kernel and root. I still use root and a customer kernel cleans up the performance but stock rom is good for me.
Javi22 said:
You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
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I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
crazyates said:
I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
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Ok ok then, I understand now haha, I might miss read no problem
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Coming from flashing ROMs and kernels on an HTC EVO, Galaxy S2, S3, and S5, it was nice to finally be on stock and not feel the need to do it anymore. I was going to after a few months but updates really improved the experience for me compared to it's original release.
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I won't buy a phone that doesn't have the ability to run custom roms. Particularly, CM / Lineage. So for example, the Pixel is out.
1. I get to choose what starts up with during boot up.
2. I get to stop unnecessary apps from running in the background. Guess what I don't want an app running if I don't have it open. Turns out my wife doesn't either for most of her apps. Do you need apps chew through mobile data or tracking your every move even though you don't have them open?
3. I block many apps from data / wifi entirely. They can't load junk like ads, phone home etc.
4. I easily block various applications from my data, as needed. A game does not need access to my contacts, etc.
5. There is still a lot of customization that can be done in the custom roms in regards to layout and such that is not in stock roms.
I realize that some of those things can be done in the stock ROM once you are rooted, or there are work around ways to do sort of do these in other ways without root, however many those are just some of the things I can list off the top of my head that you can only sort of do or only partially do in stock form.
(It's been a long time since I've run a stock ROM, so let me know if it's changed, I could be off base?)
We're not talking kernels, but once you starting tweaking the kernel, plus keep all the crap from running in the background you can get decent battery life out of this phone.