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Do I need to hide my Tether?

So I got Wifi Tether working on my GS3 on the unlimited 4g plan. I only tether once in a while to my ipad and even then use minimal data.
My question is, while tethering (using Wifi-tether set to nexus s/lte option) do i need to take any extra steps to hide the fact that im tethering? Im sure they would be able to tell. Do i need to use a proxy or different dns or something.
Well thanks in advance for the help!
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kimbo1986 said:
So I got Wifi Tether working on my GS3 on the unlimited 4g plan. I only tether once in a while to my ipad and even then use minimal data.
My question is, while tethering (using Wifi-tether set to nexus s/lte option) do i need to take any extra steps to hide the fact that im tethering? Im sure they would be able to tell. Do i need to use a proxy or different dns or something.
Well thanks in advance for the help!
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I just got blocked. So I tried a different phone. Still a no go. Googled it and it appears they are now sniffing user-agents for the HTTP protocol. I used tether a lot. Like over 3 gigs. And I'm really pissed right now. But I've searched the net and that all say to bypass my issue is to change my user-agent on my computer.. don't think you'll have issues with your iPad
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Wow really that sucks. Your data is completley blocked on your phone as well?
What makes you say i wont have that issue on an ipad?
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elesbb said:
I just got blocked. So I tried a different phone. Still a no go. Googled it and it appears they are now sniffing user-agents for the HTTP protocol. I used tether a lot. Like over 3 gigs. And I'm really pissed right now. But I've searched the net and that all say to bypass my issue is to change my user-agent on my computer.. don't think you'll have issues with your iPad
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Mobile devices (phones, tablets, etc.) use different protocols when sending/receiving information over the internet than a computer does. If I understand it correctly, they will easily detect tethering to a computer, while they may not be able to tell you are tethering when tethering to another mobile device, such as a tablet. I could be totally wrong there, but that is my understanding of it.
Just out of curiosity, were you tethering to your computer or other mobile devices? I have considered purchasing a tablet, but don't want to pay for another line of service for it, would be nice to be able to tether it to my phone when out and about so I still have internet access.

Ive always tethered to my ipad with tmobile with no problem but now i changed to the unlimited data plan, i suppose they are watching it closley now.
Can anyone confirm that protocal stuff regarding the ipad and other mobile devices?
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you guys are taking this for granted...honestly tether once in a while if they take a look at your account and see 30-40 gigs thats looking suspicious as hell. not to mention T-mobile Technician are on these website reading how you guys by passing the system..they will figure out a way eventually to stop everyone because of you, so dumb!

With running netflix and pandora all day, for a month you can hit some pretty high numbers, and im sure thats what many people are doing now. I dont see how looking at data usage soley can determine if someone is tethering.
Unless it is a server side thing like the throttling is, theres always a way to beat the system.
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kimbo1986 said:
With running netflix and pandora all day, for a month you can hit some pretty high numbers, and im sure thats what many people are doing now. I dont see how looking at data usage soley can determine if someone is tethering.
Unless it is a server side thing like the throttling is, theres always a way to beat the system.
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They can't determine tethering by simply looking at data. Just as you said there are users that easily use 10+ gig in data a month without ever tethering. There is other backend detection going on that determines tethering.
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Dragoth12 said:
They can't determine tethering by simply looking at data. Just as you said there are users that easily use 10+ gig in data a month without ever tethering. There is other backend detection going on that determines tethering.
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It's based off of user-agent and the HTTP protocol. And to the op, my data still works I just can't use internet explorer anymore. I have to use Firefox.
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G1_enthusiast said:
you guys are taking this for granted...honestly tether once in a while if they take a look at your account and see 30-40 gigs thats looking suspicious as hell. not to mention T-mobile Technician are on these website reading how you guys by passing the system..they will figure out a way eventually to stop everyone because of you, so dumb!
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Like stated before, Netflix and YouTube and Pandora, only to name a few, rack up high data usage. Weather I'm streaming on my phone or my laptop, it's still ****ing data. I paid for my data let me ****ing use it how I wish. I rest my case. Blocking tethering is just a way to be greedy and get more money. Period.
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elesbb said:
Like stated before, Netflix and YouTube and Pandora, only to name a few, rack up high data usage. Weather I'm streaming on my phone or my laptop, it's still ****ing data. I paid for my data let me ****ing use it how I wish. I rest my case. Blocking tethering is just a way to be greedy and get more money. Period.
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Interestingly enough, the federal government agrees. I really wish the ruling extended to all carriers and all plans, alas it only applies to certain plans on Verizon Wireless. When Verizon bought the spectrum they are using from the government, the FCC declared they must use it openly and have since ruled that they cannot charge customers extra for tethering, basically the government believes if you pay for data, you can use it however you want, but they can't dictate that on the other carriers, they simply had leverage against Verizon in this case. Charging for tethering is straight up greed on the part of the carriers.

elesbb said:
It's based off of user-agent and the HTTP protocol. And to the op, my data still works I just can't use internet explorer anymore. I have to use Firefox.
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Like stated before, Netflix and YouTube and Pandora, only to name a few, rack up high data usage. Weather I'm streaming on my phone or my laptop, it's still ****ing data. I paid for my data let me ****ing use it how I wish. I rest my case. Blocking tethering is just a way to be greedy and get more money. Period.
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So your data on phone still works fine, nothing blocked, and when you tether, data still works on pc just not with IE?
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elesbb said:
It's based off of user-agent and the HTTP protocol. And to the op, my data still works I just can't use internet explorer anymore. I have to use Firefox.
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Like stated before, Netflix and YouTube and Pandora, only to name a few, rack up high data usage. Weather I'm streaming on my phone or my laptop, it's still ****ing data. I paid for my data let me ****ing use it how I wish. I rest my case. Blocking tethering is just a way to be greedy and get more money. Period.
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i understand youtube and pandora but why the hell would you watch netflix on a small screen? you paid 30 bucks to use data on your phone as it intended to be, why dont you pay 50 bucks and get the tethering plan? either man up and pay or stop being a ***** about it. Your not entitle to anything but stated by tmobile, anything more is a bonus to you.

G1_enthusiast said:
i understand youtube and pandora but why the hell would you watch netflix on a small screen? you paid 30 bucks to use data on your phone as it intended to be, why dont you pay 50 bucks and get the tethering plan? either man up and pay or stop being a ***** about it. Your not entitle to anything but stated by tmobile, anything more is a bonus to you.
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Lolwut? I (and millions of other users) watch netflix on a small screen because it's convenient and portable. We pay 30 bucks to use an alloted (or, as the case may be now, unlimited) amount of data via our cellular network. While T-Mobile has a right to dictate how you can use the data allotment they provide for you, it doesn't make it any less greedy on their part.
I don't think anyone here feels they are entitled to anything more, we simply are of the opinion that if we are paying for an alloted data amount we should be able to use that allotment as we see fit. You think T-Mobile will give you a promotion if they see you are yelling at people for not paying for tethering or something?
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Dragoth12 said:
Lolwut? I (and millions of other users) watch netflix on a small screen because it's convenient and portable. We pay 30 bucks to use an alloted (or, as the case may be now, unlimited) amount of data via our cellular network. While T-Mobile has a right to dictate how you can use the data allotment they provide for you, it doesn't make it any less greedy on their part.
I don't think anyone here feels they are entitled to anything more, we simply are of the opinion that if we are paying for an alloted data amount we should be able to use that allotment as we see fit. You think T-Mobile will give you a promotion if they see you are yelling at people for not paying for tethering or something?
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no im saying hush the hell up about it so they dont find ways to ****ing block the service and i do not work for tmobile moron.
it says right in the term that you cannot tether the data, so yes your paying for data but your not allow to tether either. if you want to tether then pay the 50 bucks for it. no one forces you to pay them for data, if you dont like it use your own wifi, stop being cheap and try to cheat the system.

G1_enthusiast said:
no im saying hush the hell up about it so they dont find ways to ****ing block the service and i do not work for tmobile moron.
it says right in the term that you cannot tether the data, so yes your paying for data but your not allow to tether either. if you want to tether then pay the 50 bucks for it. no one forces you to pay them for data, if you dont like it use your own wifi, stop being cheap and try to cheat the system.
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Your opinion has been noted, i posted this to get some questions answered, not to have a moral debate. You say tethering is wrong, yet you clearly want us to "hush the hell up" so they dont block it, if your against it then you shouldnt feel the need to continue trolling.
***Im still looking for someone who knows for sure how their new technique in detecting tethering works, and a sure way of getting by it
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Um hrm.. last I heard, Chrome was blocked from tethering. So if IE is too. Thats something different. Which means my main browser Firefox is still win. =)
Now if I have to personally, I have no issue paying 10$ less and going back to my 2GB with hotspot ability if I needed. However not heard of anyone being blocked by rooted tether yet tho.

By Tethering are you guys referring to an App for tethering or Wired Tethering? Or is this the "WiFi HotSpot" deal too?
I usually use my Cell as a HotSpot for my Nexus 7 at work. Will this not work now that I have the "Truly unlimited plan" when I just got my SGS3?

Ok just tested something with my "Tmobile Hotspot" while on the new 4G Unl plan. It enables fine. Your PC can connect too. Load up in firefox... nothing happens, page loads blank forever. However.. Load in IE. Comes up with a message saying you are not on the hotspot plan, would you wanna add it for 15$ a month.
So seems IE has a way to parse TMOs data on tethering.
Now on my Rooted Wifi tether app. That works fine. No issues. =)

You cannot use the t mobile hotspot application if you do not have the tethering data plan. I know that you can download the wifi tether appplication that will allow you to tether your phone but as the other person said they have a way of detecting when you are tethering your phone my question is how do we get around that.
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G1_enthusiast said:
i understand youtube and pandora but why the hell would you watch netflix on a small screen? you paid 30 bucks to use data on your phone as it intended to be, why dont you pay 50 bucks and get the tethering plan? either man up and pay or stop being a ***** about it. Your not entitle to anything but stated by tmobile, anything more is a bonus to you.
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Oh so you're saying that I'm not allowed to use s beam or mhl adapter to push the video to my television? Why the hell have the features then?
Data is simply data. That's the base line it's black and white. Just because everyone is greedy is the only reason they make you pay for tethering.
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Getting caught tethering?

Whats the worst that can happen? Last time I was tethering to my PS3 and was downloading a games and got a text from T-Mobile that I should get wifi hotspot if I want to continue to tether.
I can still tether though but what could happen? What about torrents?

whytechapel_x said:
Whats the worst that can happen? Last time I was tethering to my PS3 and was downloading a games and got a text from T-Mobile that I should get wifi hotspot if I want to continue to tether.
I can still tether though but what could happen? What about torrents?
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They can most likely cancel your contract because you violated their TOS. That, or automatically upgrade you to a tethering plan..

lordcheeto03 said:
They can most likely cancel your contract because you violated their TOS. That, or automatically upgrade you to a tethering plan..
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Why is it that there's other people that download 80gb's or more a month?

whytechapel_x said:
Why is it that there's other people that download 80gb's or more a month?
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Because they know how to use Google. There are millions of threads explaining in detail how to tether on T-Mobile network.
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All they will do is throttle/disable the tether till beginning of next billing cycle. They won't terminate your contract. The new plans they have come with 500 MB's for free.
It does not I repeat does not violate any terms of service. All they do is send you a message saying if you like to continue tethering please upgrade to a higher package or something to that effect. But no way with a just cancel your contract because that means they lose money. So don't worry about getting terminated from a contract because nobody major corporation whatever do that unless you like stole from them.
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whytechapel_x said:
Whats the worst that can happen? Last time I was tethering to my PS3 and was downloading a games and got a text from T-Mobile that I should get wifi hotspot if I want to continue to tether.
I can still tether though but what could happen? What about torrents?
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It's exactly this reason that we have to hide our tethering. Don't be cheap. Buy internet for your home. It actually makes more sense. If you are gaming our latency and game side to server path will be a lot more consistent and reliable. Tethering is not meant to replace your home network. It is meant to be used while out and about. Also it is very selfish to tax the network and cripple your fellow Tmobile users to by hooking up devices that are meant to be enjoyed on a home network. IMHO:cyclops:

I agree 100%,
I love my tmobile service and have been with them since it was called voicestream.
The more people that tether PS3's the worse it is for the network, that just makes the end user experience slower service and chock it up as tmobile LTE/4G being crap.
Tmobile have done a great job recently with all these rollouts and the restructuring of its plans, if we are to move up to #3 out of the top 4 carriers we need to let everone enjoy the network, for the first time in a long time tmobile sets to show a positive number of signups this quater.
If you want to keep enjoying lower rates, please get yourself a $19.99 DSL plan. Last thing we need is for tmobile to be bought out by sprint or someone else. Then we all lose.
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LAkingsfan3131 said:
It's exactly this reason that we have to hide our tethering. Don't be cheap. Buy internet for your home. It actually makes more sense. If you are gaming our latency and game side to server path will be a lot more consistent and reliable. Tethering is not meant to replace your home network. It is meant to be used while out and about. Also it is very selfish to tax the network and cripple your fellow Tmobile users to by hooking up devices that are meant to be enjoyed on a home network. IMHO:cyclops:
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Lmao now your calling me cheap? When in hell did I ever mention I don't have internet at home? If your not gonna answer the question how about you leave. Same goes to the poster above

There is no reason to tether your ps3 to your phone if you have internet at home.
Its abusing the system, people who are downloading 80gb as you say are the ones who make all of us suffer and its the reason tmobile stops tethering.
To answer your question they can and will cancel your service if the see fit, its written in their TOS here is a link below.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
Here is a snippet if you dont want to look through the whole thing.
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Protective Measures: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. In addition, if your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change without notice; please check T-Mobile's T&Cs on www.T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. If you use your Data Plan in a manner that could interfere with other customers' service, affect our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or degrade service quality for other customers, we may suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, or switch you to a more appropriate Data Plan.
Hope this helps, I also tether, I dont see anything wrong with it, it is wrong when you do it on a daily basis to avoid paying for internet and specially if your tethering 80gb worth.
Also most of the new roms ie wicked v4 have native tethering. There also trevE mod that helps bypass the provision.
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P2P Sharers, Tetherers Beware! T Mobile Is Taking Action.

It's all here, folks: http://androidandme.com/2014/08/new...ed-data-users-who-engage-in-p2p-file-sharing/
UPDATE: Here is more clarfied info related to yesterday's news: http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobile-clarifies-plans-to-throttle-unlimited-customers_id59381
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Thank god I have WiFi like everyplace I go.lol

I hope they don't mind occasional p2p sharing. I do use a lot of data, but don't really torrent often at all.

I'm sure this is to target out people who think they are funny when they use 300GB - 1TB in a month. They say "well unlimited means unlimited" with a complete disregard for the TOS in regards to tethering, torrenting etc.

partylikeaninjastar said:
I hope they don't mind occasional p2p sharing. I do use a lot of data, but don't really torrent often at all.
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Same boat; sometimes it's just convenient to grab a torrent over the network. Hopefully they do it right and crack down more on abusers than users. Or some kind of technique can be developed as a work-around. This is a slippery slope, I can see the endgame here being higher costs for plans allowing the "privilege" to stream content and connect p2p, while lower tiered plans only allow for web browsing mms/sms. Short term, we could be throttled back essentially at their discretion for what they're stating in their memo. Which, incidentally, covers more than just torrents and hotspots
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I assume you can just use a VPN to get around it. I have unlimited but I'd almost never torrent on 4G, not to mention when I ever do its straight to a cloud based torrent capturing service.

BACARDILIMON said:
Thank god I have WiFi like everyplace I go.lol
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Lol I got a letter from cable company for downoading 2 movies with torrents

raw2000j said:
Lol I got a letter from cable company for downoading 2 movies with torrents
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What............... Wtf. Who is our cable company

BACARDILIMON said:
What............... Wtf. Who is our cable company
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Verizon fios

raw2000j said:
Verizon fios
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Say no more

I've only gotten notices from Comcast when I've shared things I've downloaded. Never for just downloading.

So if I use a lot of data by using netflix, red box I alright correct? Thanks
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partylikeaninjastar said:
I've only gotten notices from Comcast when I've shared things I've downloaded. Never for just downloading.
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If you torrent you share as you download. Unless you use one of the Leacher torrent programs but finding one that actually works is hard. You probably have just been lucky and haven't connected to a IP address that reports on any IP it connects with.

xda23 said:
So if I use a lot of data by using netflix, red box I alright correct? Thanks
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Yes, you are fine. This Tmo notice is for those are use their mobile connection as an always on, live data usage connection that is constantly saturating the connection with the tower/antenna, such as torrenting, webcasting or such.
But as Opensystem said, I think (and hope) this is to crackdown on the abusers and not users of their mobile connections. I've seen online others who are using their Tmo phone as a hotspot for ALL their internet use, including at home with multiple wifi connections working off of one device, because their LTE connection is solid and faster than their own DSL or cable connection and they cancelled that service and live off their Tmo LTE now.

ThePagel said:
If you torrent you share as you download. Unless you use one of the Leacher torrent programs but finding one that actually works is hard. You probably have just been lucky and haven't connected to a IP address that reports on any IP it connects with.
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You should never use a public torrent site unless you have to, and if you do, try not to share. Private trackers are more secure, but even then, nothing is completely secure. Even VPN providers have to abide by the laws of the country they reside in or risk being shut down.
I think T-Mobile is being very lenient here by only throttling. There's no mention of service suspension or termination if the user keeps doing this.
I am ok with this policy. T-Mobile should not be used as an ISP replacement (nor should any mobile carrier), that is why data tethering plans have caps. The unlimited plans are offered with the assumption that most users with a phone will not use more than a certain amount a month on average. The excessive uses must be dealt with accordingly, spectrum is not cheap, and if it's laid out in the Terms and Conditions, one cannot whine when the rules are finally enforced.
I have tethered outside of my tethering cap, but I use about 10-12 GB at the most (total between phone and hotspot). I'm technically still breaking the T&C, so if I end up being throttled when I exceed my tethering allowance, I won't be upset.

havanahjoe said:
You should never use a public torrent site unless you have to, and if you do, try not to share. Private trackers are more secure, but even then, nothing is completely secure. Even VPN providers have to abide by the laws of the country they reside in or risk being shut down.
I think T-Mobile is being very lenient here by only throttling. There's no mention of service suspension or termination if the user keeps doing this.
I am ok with this policy. T-Mobile should not be used as an ISP replacement (nor should any mobile carrier), that is why data tethering plans have caps. The unlimited plans are offered with the assumption that most users with a phone will not use more than a certain amount a month on average. The excessive uses must be dealt with accordingly, spectrum is not cheap, and if it's laid out in the Terms and Conditions, one cannot whine when the rules are finally enforced.
I have tethered outside of my tethering cap, but I use about 10-12 GB at the most (total between phone and hotspot). I'm technically still breaking the T&C, so if I end up being throttled when I exceed my tethering allowance, I won't be upset.
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Private trackers are no more secure than public that's kind of like thinking police need to say they are cops if you ask them. And you can find Vpns that completely sheild you , you just need to find the ones that don't keep logs. You will never get cought in the act and that's the only way to catch a no log VPN user. Its hard to find the no log vpns but private internet access is one of them at least for now. Surprisingly the USA is one of the few country's that do not mandate logs. Best tip you can get is to stay away from the huge VPN providers like hide my ass because they will log. Sadly private internet access is getting to be one of the huge providers and will probably have the capital to start saving logs soon.

You know in reality I'm sure that someone will figure out a work around just like they always seem to do.
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ThePagel said:
Private trackers are no more secure than public that's kind of like thinking police need to say they are cops if you ask them. And you can find Vpns that completely sheild you , you just need to find the ones that don't keep logs. You will never get cought in the act and that's the only way to catch a no log VPN user. Its hard to find the no log vpns but private internet access is one of them at least for now. Surprisingly the USA is one of the few country's that do not mandate logs. Best tip you can get is to stay away from the huge VPN providers like hide my ass because they will log. Sadly private internet access is getting to be one of the huge providers and will probably have the capital to start saving logs soon.
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Nothing is more secure than not downloading any illegal torrents. There will be risk when downloading them, no matter how much you try to hide, some things are riskier than others.

havanahjoe said:
Nothing is more secure than not downloading any illegal torrents. There will be risk when downloading them, no matter how much you try to hide, some things are riskier than others.
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Truth

Here is the new, clarified info from Tmo: http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobile-clarifies-plans-to-throttle-unlimited-customers_id59381
I will update the OP accordingly.
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T-Mobile crackdown on unlimited Tether?

Hey guys. I've been using Hyperdrive ROM, effortless, stock nf9 rooted, stock nk3 rooted... And for months (almost a year) I've been using unlimited tethering. I know how to setup the APN's, I format my partitions between flashing... Basically, I know what I'm doing.
Well I think T-Mobile has finally figured out how to filter through the ipv4 data. Recently (this week) on my desktop and chromebook, when I try to connect to a website, I get the T-Mobile upsell page about adding on tethering data.... which means it randomly started deducting from my bucket out of the blue. It never did before. I've reinstalled many fresh roms (including full stock odins) with no luck.
It lets some data slip through still (League of Legends and Chromecast depending on what is being casted - I use my hotspot as the router).
Anyone else experiencing this?

crack down
yes ive experienced the same. thing this week.so i downloaded hotspot shield to my laptop and so far so good

hemperghent said:
yes ive experienced the same. thing this week.so i downloaded hotspot shield to my laptop and so far so good
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Thanks for confirming.
Does that desktop app cost money? I've seen the mobile version and it's like $20 for 6/mo after the trial?
Ended up using the Hola extension in Chrome on the laptops and it seems to unblock most websites. You've got to make some available manually but it works well enough.

I downloaded the program from kat.ph and it's working tits. Has elite until 2018
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It's about time.
Only Dirt-Bags would use T-Mobile as their personal "everyday" AP for Computers. T-Mobile set limitations to protect the network so we can all enjoy decent data speeds and service. Scums abuse T-Mobile and ruin the experience for the rest of us.
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You need more GB for tethering, BUY IT!!!
This reminds me of losers illegally downloading in their moms basement. Such a terrible "entitlement" generation we're living in.

Boo ****ing hoo. Get over it. T-Mobile reported 5.7b from service revenue in the 3rd quarter alone of 2014. They are not hurting for money. Charging for tethering is just another bull**** way to squeeze a tiny bit more money from customers.
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Pffft. If I'm tethering 20GB a month chromecasting Netflix and playing a few games of LoL while others use legal mobile bittorrent apps, run legit mobile dns servers and voip to their friends all day using over 100-200GB... then who really gives a f***? It's unlimited data.
If you can use the network for it on your mobile, it's not all that different on PC- especially windows 8 cuz you can set connections as "limited" or whatever and it won't do updates or autosync apps.
You think they're hurting for bandwidth when they just promised a bunch to Google for its own virtual cellular network. ..?

Still working the same for me using the Wifi Tether Router application and changing the Apn with a touchwiz based rom.
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Pixel XL and I moved from Grandfathered VZ Unlimited to new Unlimited, here's why

Well I have had my Verizon unlimited for god knows how long and now that all the carriers are coming back with their own version of unlimited data plans I finally gave my plan a review.
I have had 2 lines with big red, both with unlimited data. My wife (who is Canadian) and I travel to Canada a lot to see her family and we live in L.A. so we vacation in Mexico.
I use the Pixel XL 128GB and she has an iPhone something or other.
I use on average 35GB a month and she uses about 11GB on average. When I travel with family it can go over 70 GB as everyone who is Canadian with us uses my phone as their hotspot.
I was using the trick to pop the sim out and back in then initiate the hotspot just fine. Heck I have the key on my keychain for it.
In the end, using our own unlimited data in Mexico & Canada, calling to and from those countries, my wife easily using the native 10GB hotspot on her iPhone toy, and having HD Streaming no counting against "unlimited data", plus now having unlimited voice call (we had 2000 minutes before) while it saving me now $70 a month was hard to say no to.
I'm sure I can keep my data usage below 30GB a month if I actually use wifi more often and download my torrents in a more sensible way (not through my phone willy nilly) Heck I have had 1 month where I hit 1.1 TB as I used my phone to supply internet for the entire house for a couple months just because it was faster than my home internet service.
So in the end, this just made practical sense as it's easier for my wife and we don't have to watch our data when traveling in N. America. And $70 a month buys a lot of cigars.

I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
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Milkman328 said:
I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
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It's on my mind as well but I think I used my phone in a way where I just didn't care if I was on wifi or not. This past 1 month period my data was a lot lower than normal because I actually used the wifi in my office and at home which I normally don't do. I guess your lifestyle will determine if it's worth it. $70 a month difference made it worth it for us to switch.

Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.

noidea24 said:
Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.
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Yeah I took that into consideration. Now my wife can just press a button on her iPhone to get her hotspot going and as for me I know the work arounds so I'm fine with it.

noidea24 said:
Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.
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this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked

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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked[/QUOTE]
That's allot of data dude. I don't think I have ever gone over 50. I been thinking about getting on that new plan from my grandfathered one. But something scares me about it. There's got to be some kind of catch. I dunno lose my discount to. But It would save me 40 bucks. Did they let you get on the new plan?

peterlee928 said:
this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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Just throwing this out there since the topic is still active, I've used 37gb so far with a week left until it starts another month.
Speed test is reporting my down at 28-33mbps, which is what I got when I first started the plan. I haven't touched any of my hotspot because I don't need to.

noidea24 said:
Just throwing this out there since the topic is still active, I've used 37gb so far with a week left until it starts another month.
Speed test is reporting my down at 28-33mbps, which is what I got when I first started the plan. I haven't touched any of my hotspot because I don't need to.
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that sounds solid. have u noticed any slowdown after going past the 22gb threshold? and r u using during/in "high congestion" times/areas?

peterlee928 said:
this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked
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peterlee928 said:
that sounds solid. have u noticed any slowdown after going past the 22gb threshold? and r u using during/in "high congestion" times/areas?
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I'll be in Macon today, and I'll run a few speed tests and a download around 3. That's when most schools are getting out and people get off around here.

In speaking to a Verizon tech because I wanted the full story this is what happens when you go over 22GB (It will be increased soon I hear).
Once you hit 22GB you are no longer on the "Priority" list to connect to 4G. So if you are home, at work, the movies, you will still connect perfectly fine with ZERO throttle.
If you are at a Football game, Concert, somewhere with a dumb amount of people, then you will be down the list to connect to 4G but once you are connected you still are not throttled.
This was my deciding factor and it seems now I am saving $81 this month having switched both my grandfathered unlimited plans to this new unlimited plan. I have used about 28GB this cycle so far with 17 days left to go. I live in L.A. And have not had issues.

DaPoets said:
In speaking to a Verizon tech because I wanted the full story this is what happens when you go over 22GB (It will be increased soon I hear).
Once you hit 22GB you are no longer on the "Priority" list to connect to 4G. So if you are home, at work, the movies, you will still connect perfectly fine with ZERO throttle.
If you are at a Football game, Concert, somewhere with a dumb amount of people, then you will be down the list to connect to 4G but once you are connected you still are not throttled.
This was my deciding factor and it seems now I am saving $81 this month having switched both my grandfathered unlimited plans to this new unlimited plan. I have used about 28GB this cycle so far with 17 days left to go. I live in L.A. And have not had issues.
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thx poets. ive heard the same from vzn cust svc reps but remain skeptical. good to hear that u havent had any issues post-22gbs. i also live in la, so ur positive exp thus far is great to hear
fyi i was able to get vzn to price match tmobiles current unlimited plan cost. took more than 1 call, but worth it basically $100/mo for 2 lines. that includes line access fees and taxes. that match was for a 12 mo period - thereafter, the line access fees and taxes are charged normally.
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I'll be in Macon today, and I'll run a few speed tests and a download around 3. That's when most schools are getting out and people get off around here.
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eager to hear how it goes!

Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.

That sucks to hear. I was also considering moving from the grandfathered plan to the new one. Idk why it's so scary to give it up..

I have the new UDP and I was at 80 gigs in a billing cycle. Never was throttled. I will say it depends on where you live. If you live in a big city then more of a chance to get throttled than if you live more out in the county
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If that happens to me I will rip Verizon a new one. They specifically said there is no throtteling, only delayed 4G connections if you are no longer on the priority list.

noidea24 said:
Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.
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thx for the update... was afraid of that... fckn vzn and their doubletalk smh... which apps do u use to check connection speeds?
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If that happens to me I will rip Verizon a new one. They specifically said there is no throtteling, only delayed 4G connections if you are no longer on the priority list.[/QUOTE
wut else did "they" say (pulp fiction reference)
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aholeinthewor1d said:
That sucks to hear. I was also considering moving from the grandfathered plan to the new one. Idk why it's so scary to give it up..
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just as a warning - i was told by vzn that if u go over 200 gbs of data usage in a billing cycle, then u will automatically get kicked from ur grandfathered plan. but worth double checking on ur own as who knows wut the real story is.
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noidea24 said:
Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.
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prob a dumb suggestion, but here goes - would we be able to circumvent the throttling by using an internet speed booster app? i dunno the specifics behind them...
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I use speedtest by ookla, and I run it on 3 different servers to attempt to eliminate variances and achieve an average.
As far a internet connection speed booster, the only thing I can see actually helping would be all the network tweaks in the "lspeed" app.
My speed has since came up a little, but not by much. Still hanging out around the 1-2mbps range. For reference I live in Warner robins, sometimes traveling to macon, Georgia. It's nothing like Atlanta but it's a little crowded.

noidea24 said:
I use speedtest by ookla, and I run it on 3 different servers to attempt to eliminate variances and achieve an average.
As far a internet connection speed booster, the only thing I can see actually helping would be all the network tweaks in the "lspeed" app.
My speed has since came up a little, but not by much. Still hanging out around the 1-2mbps range. For reference I live in Warner robins, sometimes traveling to macon, Georgia. It's nothing like Atlanta but it's a little crowded.
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hmm doesnt sound promising. i live in los angeles. obvi pretty dense. ill report back with my results once i go over 22gbs (currently at 17 with 3 wks left in my billing cycle).

I said it before and I'll say it again. If you live in a large city then the chances of being throttled is a lot greater to happen than if you live in the middle of no where. I am on the new UDP and last month I hit over 80 gigs and no throttling happened. As I live in the middle of no where so not as many people as compared to a larger city. Now I am sure if I went to Richmond va I could almost bet ya I would of been. But you knew what you was getting in to when taking the new UDP that they might throttle ya so don't get all mad that it happened to you.
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