I've recently replaced my S5 with an M8 and flashed CyanogenMod 11. Like others have said, the volume pushes the speakers much too loud, to the point of distortion, and possible damage. I use CM on all my devices, which is why I traded my Verizon (bootloader locked) S5 for an M8 I could unlock with Firewater. I don't have experience with other ROMs on this device, but was wondering if either AOKP, or PAC also had this issue, as it seems the CM team is unaware of it, so I may need to run another ROM as an alternative...
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I've recently replaced my S5 with an M8 and flashed CyanogenMod 11. Like others have said, the volume pushes the speakers much too loud, to the point of distortion, and possible damage. I use CM on all my devices, which is why I traded my Verizon (bootloader locked) S5 for an M8 I could unlock with Firewater. I don't have experience with other ROMs on this device, but was wondering if either AOKP, or PAC also had this issue, as it seems the CM team is unaware of it, so I may need to run another ROM as an alternative...
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If its based off of cm (which those are), then it probably has the same issue. I'd recommend a gpe ROM while the issue gets sorted out, and keep track of the progress via the ROM threads or the ROM commits.
Well, I was hoping maybe the AOKP, Paranoid, or PAC team noticed the issue in the CM code and fixed it themselves. I prefer AOSP builds with customization, such as these ROMs, over Sense or vanilla Android. So I'm hoping at least one runs fine on this phone :-/
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Well, I was hoping maybe the AOKP, Paranoid, or PAC team noticed the issue in the CM code and fixed it themselves. I prefer AOSP builds with customization, such as these ROMs, over Sense or vanilla Android. So I'm hoping at least one runs fine on this phone :-/
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AOSP is buggy as hell on anything not Nexus related so I wouldn't even bother. It's no wonder CM got into bed with Xiomi or whoever it was because aside from Nexus devices, none of the AOSP roms are stable enough for me.
With the M8 you won't need to worry about optimisation / speed because the sense ROM's and GPE roms have no lag like you get in touchwiz roms and the RAM is managed flawlessly imo.
Try Viper for more tweaks than AOSP, and remove sense. IMHO or keep sense and install a launcher.
It's to do with kernel level audio gain hack AOSP started in Gingerbread back in the Desire days. It affects many - they never made a solution.
Ask them for a kernel without any audio gain hacks.
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They need to fix this, it's still and issue 2 weeks later.
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I've recently replaced my S5 with an M8 and flashed CyanogenMod 11. Like others have said, the volume pushes the speakers much too loud, to the point of distortion, and possible damage. I use CM on all my devices, which is why I traded my Verizon (bootloader locked) S5 for an M8 I could unlock with Firewater. I don't have experience with other ROMs on this device, but was wondering if either AOKP, or PAC also had this issue, as it seems the CM team is unaware of it, so I may need to run another ROM as an alternative...
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Same exact problem. I want them to fix this so bad because everything else is perfect.
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Hey guys i dun knw if anyone else has been facing this issue but fifa 12 crashes my phn and it hangs..only workaround is a reboot..m on miui..tried blackice...other cm7roms and other miui roms..now the game works fine with sense roms but with aosp it crashes..only thing common in all the roms tat failed is the cm7 base and lordclockan kernals...can anyone help..wud b thankful...!
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AOSP roms are known for having app compatibility issues as most apps are not made for the opensource drivers they use. Not sure about MIUI
Having the same problem, assumed it was that big business game devs don't worry about testing against customs roms, and ROM devs are focused on overall functionality and not so much specific game play ability.
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Having the same problem, assumed it was that big business game devs don't worry about testing against customs roms, and ROM devs are focused on overall functionality and not so much specific game play ability.
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It is all wrapped up in the drivers used in AOSP and MIUI roms. The open source drivers are not really set up to work 100% with the hardware. Take it like a PC when you load Ubuntu. Yes the ipensource deicers work but they don't hold a candle to the drivers built for the device. Same thing here. One of my main reasons for only using roms built of of roms built for my device
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It is all wrapped up in the drivers used in AOSP and MIUI roms. The open source drivers are not really set up to work 100% with the hardware. Take it like a PC when you load Ubuntu. Yes the ipensource deicers work but they don't hold a candle to the drivers built for the device. Same thing here. One of my main reasons for only using roms built of of roms built for my device
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So based on your response and given my phone is an HTC model, you'd recommend a Sense-based ROM vs. CM7 or the like? I should qualify that with something like "if I want to be able to play all my games, etc. w/o a problem". I am no too fond of Sense (although if you ask why I couldn't justify with reasons), but I am getting antsy and want to really see what other ROMS are out there.
Thanks for your response, and I wouldn't ask you this type of question if it wasn't for your signature line )
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So based on your response and given my phone is an HTC model, you'd recommend a Sense-based ROM vs. CM7 or the like? I should qualify that with something like "if I want to be able to play all my games, etc. w/o a problem". I am no too fond of Sense (although if you ask why I couldn't justify with reasons), but I am getting antsy and want to really see what other ROMS are out there.
Thanks for your response, and I wouldn't ask you this type of question if it wasn't for your signature line )
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As for working without a problem that is never a sure thing. You can run a HTC based rom without sense if you don't like the launcher. That's what I personally use. I have used a CM based rom from time to time and always end up going back when some of my apps stop working.
So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
All require the commands for fastboot. Aosp roms are quality cams not as good. Don't go sense yet try miui then at least you've tried them all
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What is "cams"? I tried Googling it but couldn't find anything. MIUI looks like it might be a pretty heavy ROM? And I'm not sure about the whole idea of not having an app drawer.
What other AOSP ROMs are there? Is there some place where I can check out the various alternatives? Is CM10 an AOSP?
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What other AOSP ROMs are there? Is there some place where I can check out the various alternatives?
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The original development sub-forum.
CM10 is based on aosp.
Also try ice cold jelly.
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Sorry cams=camera
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All require the commands for fastboot. Aosp roms are quality cams not as good. Don't go sense yet try miui then at least you've tried them all
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Translation: All require you to use commands in fastboot. The quality of pictures taken in the camera application in AOSP/AOKP/CM10 ROMs is not as good compared to Sense ROMs. Don't go back to a Sense ROM yet, try MIUI, then go back to Sense once you've tried them all.
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So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
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Im wondering this same question... tried few CM10 based roms --> bad battery, freezing, errors etc.
now im having sense based rom, and market doesnt work, cool aint it?
dont like the ui look of sense at all, messy and disturbing.
im just wondering if theres any fully STABLE CM9, maybe CM7 roms? dont really care about these google now, nfc etc..
and dont say me to change to iOS, thats not a solution.
Good luck searching for ROM!
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So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
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I love my Sense ROMs, so I've actually reflashed the stock software. I've tried the CM10, ARHD 17 (Good sense ROM), Paranoid android (A very interesting ROM, may not give the best experience but it's certainly very unique in its own respect) Also, check out the new Blade ROM, apparently it's super smooth and amazing battery life. I have to delve into it myself, but perhaps you could share your experience?
I want to switch to an AOSP rom because NFC media sharing doesn't work on stock roms,
But I'm worried about all those bugs in AOSP roms ...
do you guys recommend switching or staying on stock????????????????????????????????
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I want to switch to an AOSP rom because NFC media sharing doesn't work on stock roms,
But I'm worried about all those bugs in AOSP roms ...
do you guys recommend switching or staying on stock????????????????????????????????
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Well i can recommend ARHD 17.1, if u can stand looks of sense UI.
After installing apex launcher and holo locker (JB style locker) i managed to make it good looking for me. And its very smooth scrolling etc (AFTER APEX)... on sense it was as laggy as stock.
PS. im not sure if NFC media sharing works cause i wont need it but you can allways make sure of it:
-> [ROM] Android Revolution HD 17.1 | High Quality & Performance | Sense 4+ | BEST STOCK
:good:
I just flashed to Liquid JB from ViperX and am pretty happy so far... Also ViperX was awesome, with tons of customizable features. :good:
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Translation: All require you to use commands in fastboot. The quality of pictures taken in the camera application in AOSP/AOKP/CM10 ROMs is not as good compared to Sense ROMs. Don't go back to a Sense ROM yet, try MIUI, then go back to Sense once you've tried them all.
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Yeah I'm fairly sure the need for such an extensive translation was not really warranted. Lol
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what about Slim Bean for the HOX, anyone got good expierience with that ROM ?
Slim beans a great Rom. Same story though with the camera if not overly fussed about it though. Great rom
The gnex version is sweet
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thanks ! Seems ROMs are like women, so many are beautiful but you have to pick the lesser evil for you
Try ICJ AOKP. It has a lot of customization and its very stable.
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Slim beans a great Rom. Same story though with the camera if not overly fussed about it though. Great rom
The gnex version is sweet
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How much worse the camera on AOSP/AOKP vs Sense roms?
Both Still and VIdeo quality, less options? Whats the problem?
It's not tragic. You will notice it though. You have to try really
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It's not tragic. You will notice it though. You have to try really
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But still can you explain a bit please?
The quality is worse? the features? what exactly is the difference?
Okay the quality isn't as good. In low light or dark the flash makes a green tint on your picture. Though loads use it still give it a try
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So I am new to the XDA forum, I am not new to Android. Now however I am in a bit of a spot. Looking for that one ROM which actually works properly without bugs or stability issues. This has proven to be a rather big challenge.
Almost every single ROM I have looked up, either on this forum or other forums, has issues. Most of them are seen as minor, but for my part, the lack of WiFi or USB tethering is not acceptable. Nor are those small bugs which makes apps crash from time to time.
So I am looking for a ROM with offers me the pure Android experience, so no Sense UI, with a few custom tweaks like battery indicator removal and the like. The ROM should be OTA compatible and based on Android 4.2.2.
I have looked all the big ROM's and many of the smaller ones. And like I write earlier, they all seem to have issues that makes renders them a defect product in my eyes. It is my no means easy to create a custom ROM, and all the hard work that developers put in to it, that I will praise :good:
But since I am looking for a complete product that take run my HOX until a new Android phone worth having comes out, stability issues, app craches, sluggishness and so on, are not acceptable.
It is a tall order I realise, but I figures that there is nothing lost by posting this thread. So are there anyone out there who knows an custom ROM?
AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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I have a beautiful battery widget, which looks much much better then any other, still hoping that the developer will add moving it to the right side for root users. So I want the default one hidden. So another question would be, if you hide it, does it leave an empty space, or do the other right-side indicators re-align to fill that empty space, so to avoid blank space?
They fill the blank space.
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They fill the blank space.
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
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I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
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No worries i use to use trips rom's i was a flasholic until i flashed TeamVenoms rom and never looked back.
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Interesting, maybe I should do the same. Please tell us what rom you decide to use
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
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Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
Got your ROM?
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Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
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From what I can tell, Slim Bean is running some sort of custom launcher, is that correct? Because like I wrote, I have no interest in that nor any other launcher, I just want want the stock Android Holo UI and a few additional features.
Does Slim Bean support OTA?
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Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
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Sounds like CM is the way to go. SlimBean is tempting, but it uses a form of launcher other the stock one, and that holds no interest for me.
Hello,
Recently my beloved HTC Sensation broke and since it was no longer made, it was replaced with a g2 which so far I have no complaints about, but there was this one rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531054 made by team venom which I loved. It was essentially the stock jellybean android with the sense (I know there is no sense for samsung) just lightened with more customization. So far the only roms I have found have been CM based, AOKP or AOSP which I am not as big of a fan of just based on the fact, that at least with the sensation the stock rom with some tweaks performed much better than other roms. Please feel free to inform me that other rom versions perform better on the g2 than stock, currently I am on the factory ics with some crap removed by TI and Setcpu to underclock it to squeeze some battery life out of it and even on powersave gov it is snappy. Thanks
I'm not going to make any statements regarding performance - that's for you to determine for yourself. If you want stock JB, you should be looking in the development thread for version 4.1.2. The most current touchwiz work seems to be from Rushing (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2670624). I haven't used his roms, but many people have given favourable reviews.
ptmr3 produced a favourite JB rom awhile back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818305
I have been using NorthernTouch v1.3, but v1.4 is available (mirror link) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279348
If you're on T-mobile and use wifi calling, you might want to be looking specifically for roms based on UVMC6 rather than TLUMC4, which is from Telus. Happy flashing!
The ptmr3 rom looks like exactly what I want, I might be getting to greedy here but can I change music with long presses of the volume rocker while the screen is locked? I didn't see that on there.
Also I dont see wifi calling but I hope im mistaken.
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I could be wrong, but I think there's an Xposed module that can do volume rocker music control. Wifi calling is not something I ever look for, so you're on your own there. Time to do some of your own searching.
Thank you all the same
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Hello everyone, I'm not a noob, I'm not saying this to show off, but I'm not by any ways, I'd like anyone here that knows enough about this to give a quick answer to my question. What's the state of the roms based on the ones mentioned in the title, it's not that I don't want or know how to check, but I work from Monday to Saturday all day so I don't have much time to test stuff even though I love to. The only thing I wanted to know was basically what are the known bugs etc. Thanks in advance!
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Hello everyone, I'm not a noob, I'm not saying this to show off, but I'm not by any ways, I'd like anyone here that knows enough about this to give a quick answer to my question. What's the state of the roms based on the ones mentioned in the title, it's not that I don't want or know how to check, but I work from Monday to Saturday all day so I don't have much time to test stuff even though I love to. The only thing I wanted to know was basically what are the known bugs etc. Thanks in advance!
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FYI, I am on Sprint.
For Sense ROMs i like Viper (not much bugs that I can find), for AOSP I like Liquid Smooth (tons of features, but drops to 3G and stays there unless you toggle Airplane mode. I believe a lot of AOSP ROMs have this issue.), for CM I like Gummy ROM.
But, I have only been testing out ROMs for 3 weeks or so now.
Anyone else wants to give me any more recommendations? Or tell me what the bugs are atm on AOSP or cm based roms? Thanks
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Anyone else wants to give me any more recommendations? Or tell me what the bugs are atm on AOSP or cm based roms? Thanks
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The biggest bug I've seen is most/all aosp speakerphone mics don't work, as in you can talk on speakerphone but they won't hear you. In PA I had a bug where I couldn't search chrome properly, and I've seen a few bugs with themes, but that's all I can think of if you stick to the big names (CM, AOKP, LS, PA). Personally using CM11 nightly with furnace kernel with fantastic results. Hope this helps!
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The biggest bug I've seen is most/all aosp speakerphone mics don't work, as in you can talk on speakerphone but they won't hear you. In PA I had a bug where I couldn't search chrome properly, and I've seen a few bugs with themes, but that's all I can think of if you stick to the big names (CM, AOKP, LS, PA). Personally using CM11 nightly with furnace kernel with fantastic results. Hope this helps!
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Thank you (pressed thanks already)
Thank you too
One of the major bugs with AOSP was encryption of data. It "encrypted" the phone itself and asked for password so that nobody could get in. Apparently it was fixed but I still see some threads where people complain about receiving this prompt for password in the AOSP ROMs they flashed.
This was the thread with the fix for the problem. [FIX] Data Encryption Problem AOSP Roms
Here a user posted a summary about the status of CM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53953807
Kinda disappointed to hear that duo camera doesn't work...even though it was to be expected. (I guess that's the case on all AOSP roms)
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"Personally using CM11 nightly with furnace kernel with fantastic results."
Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the "Furnace kernel"