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Just Got My ZL , Should i Update??

Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.

markdexter said:
Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.
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Well I'm for one just updated to 4.2.2...the difference is that I know of is the memory card capacity is upgraded to 64GB..and the lock screen is a bit different..they put up a window for apps..an small apps icon is simpler but boring looking...and somehow, the camera is producing not impressive result...my xperia t and iphone 4 produce finer detail than my zl...wonder why...hmm

Haven't really had any issues with 4.2.2
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When I used the 4.2.2 update it made my phone buggy and laggy.

I have not had any problems so far with 4.2.2.

Same here, not problem at all in 4.2.2
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No problems on eXistenz rom, pretty smooth especially with Nova launcher. I've found stock launcher to be buggy and laggy, as well once root access is available you can modify files that will promote speed, better ram access, wake lock detector to avoid draining apps that are useless, etc. On average I get 4 hours of screen time with around 20-30 hours of standby with typical use of music, texting, internet, etc.

the people who have 4.2.2 can tell if the max resolution of the camera is 13 MPX ? ore 12MPX.

danieldp1990 said:
the people who have 4.2.2 can tell if the max resolution of the camera is 13 MPX ? ore 12MPX.
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4.2.2 has 12 Mpx in Auto Superior and 13 Mpx in Normal mode.

Andre Verissimo said:
4.2.2 has 12 Mpx in Auto Superior and 13 Mpx in Normal mode.
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are u sure? how can you see the resolution in Auto mode? , when i saw the max resolution in normal mode the max was 12 and not 13, can you check that out ?

markdexter said:
Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.
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That's a shame sorry to hear you got it if you can return do so. Lol
It's worth updating software.

danieldp1990 said:
are u sure? how can you see the resolution in Auto mode? , when i saw the max resolution in normal mode the max was 12 and not 13, can you check that out ?
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Max res in Auto: 12
Max res in Normal: 13

camera in 4.3

does the 4.3 update improve the camera?n how bad is the camera in low light is it better than galaxy s2 in low light?

Definitively it is better
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Is it better in low light also?n did the update increase csmera quality than b4?
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For me its much better camera on android 4.2.2 tan 4.3

bhavstech said:
does the 4.3 update improve the camera?n how bad is the camera in low light is it better than galaxy s2 in low light?
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I'll test... (have a T989 sitting here as well...)

scifan said:
I'll test... (have a T989 sitting here as well...)
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Post results, please. My ZL is getting repaired and im dying to test the camera. :cyclops:

Hmm... Not sure if this will share right...Flicker-set
Here's a couple of pictures taken with and without flash of a rack of servers and of a bookshelf. The shots include those taken with the ZL, a S2, and a S3...
I would say the ZL does ok... though I like the manual pictures better than the Superior Auto. Alot of noise gets introduced when it tries to adjust the ISO settings to something way past the optics of the phone.
I haven't really looked at the camera on anything pre 2.67...)
Note - the S2 is running T989UVMC6 (4.1.2), the S3 is an I747 running 4.1.1 JR003L.I747UCDLK3.
Both phones are rooted, but are running stock TW roms.

I actually disagree, and think that the stock camera app was better in Android 4.2. It doesn't seem nearly as good in low light areas with Android 4.3, compared to before the update. I have been searching for a camera app on the Play Store for a little while today, and I might try a few and compare the qualities of them versus the stock Sony camera app.
Has anyone else tried any different camera apps on the Play Store?

[Q] Z1 ROM to Z1 compact?

I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?

AndroidInsanity said:
I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?
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I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.

That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).

TheEndHK said:
I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/son.../cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.
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Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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Iruwen said:
That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).
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Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.

AndroidInsanity said:
Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.

TheEndHK said:
Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.
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I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.

TheEndHK said:
I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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TheEndHK said:
I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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By the way. What's the difference. Between 8mp version and modded resolutions version??
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AndroidInsanity said:
Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.

TheEndHK said:
http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.
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Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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AndroidInsanity said:
Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.

TheEndHK said:
Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.
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No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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AndroidInsanity said:
No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54316700&postcount=657
They are different mods from different devs. If you are on kitkatslim evo8.0/8.1, you can flash this patch to return to stock then flash the v7 8MP mode. Remember to clean all settings related with camera every time before you flash mod.
But I may forced back 4.4.2 my Sony SmartWatch2 doesn't seems working good with 4.4.4, some of my sw2 apps not yet updated to fully working under 4.4.4. I'll need to do some more testing to confirm it. And I think the 4k recording quality dropped very slightly in v7 because it used more of libs from z1c stock 4.4.4 and affected the 4k quality this is my guess. We will need to wait for z2 4.4.4 release to real fix all problem.

Iruwen said:
I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
Good news! I finally have time to test it and confirm it to be successful and I've updated my guide now.

I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.

Iruwen said:
I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.
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Is recovery still working?

Yep.

[Q] Android 4.5/5.0 Lollipop for GNote 2 ??

Well, Android Lollipop was announced and like title say's will it be here for our note 2?
any info is vwery well apreciated.
EXPRESS YOUR OPINION and thanks :victory:

hackerse7en said:
Well, Android Lollipop was announced and like title say's will it be here for our note 2?
any info is vwery well apreciated.
EXPRESS YOUR OPINION and thanks :victory:
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Not from samsung.
Probably we will see custom roms.

There will be Lolipop for the Note 2

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Seems like GTn7100 and 7105 are slated for a L update.

Any dates ?

eddie3912 said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Seems like GTn7100 and 7105 are slated for a L update.
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It's a 2 years old article.
Android L has been cancelled for note 2.

FUSIONdev said:
It's a 2 years old article.
Android L has been cancelled for note 2.
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Oops!! Didn't see the date. Thanks for the notification.. Well that is a bummer

Here's a way more recent article http://www.androidorigin.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-note-2-android-l-4-5-0-update/

I'd be happy with a 5.0 aosp rom as the main things which annoyed me were now adressed: camera and battery life. Those are 2 things which ALWAYS push me back to tw roms.
There is not a single camera app which has such a good post processing as samsungs' with low light shot. And 1 day battery (aosp) with light usage vs 3 on tw roms doesn't really make aosp look better.

lolmensch said:
I'd be happy with a 5.0 aosp rom as the main things which annoyed me were now adressed: camera and battery life. Those are 2 things which ALWAYS push me back to tw roms.
There is not a single camera app which has such a good post processing as samsungs' with low light shot. And 1 day battery (aosp) with light usage vs 3 on tw roms doesn't really make aosp look better.
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I have been using liquid smooth with the AGNi kernel and get 20+ hours with heavy use

CM 13 vs. Marshmallow

Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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CM13 IS Marshmallow you i... also, CM13 has multiwindow too. None of them has "defects". They both work great. They work so great infact that it's no longer a question of functionality but rather a question of preference.

patryk.kecik said:
Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)

davebugyi said:
You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.

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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Well I tried it a week ago exactly. That build had more than just "some bugs". App wise you are right, there is Proshot and Camera FV-5. But you mean CM13 now also has a working laser focus, spectrum sensor and long exposure for the camera?

What about qslide? Is it available on cm 13? And which camera app is better than lg stock camera or cm13 camera? And what about lg apps? I mean calendar, smart notice, quick remote. Its important for me.
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I you don't care about camera quality: CM13 all the way. But if you care, forget CM13. Camera it's just horrible. Photos with horrible quality, not so many options, strange ratio, etc.
I've tried CM13 one day after use stock MM for almost a month (the seven version) and returned to stock because camera.

I completely agree. CM 13 is an amazing project but I think that is a little bit unfair put a young project devolped by a guy or two VS the stock one that starts from completely different conditions.
At this stage of development there is no contest simply because CM 13 has a lot of bugs and no real optimizations focused on G4 only.
All that said what I hope is to have in the future someone that works on a custom kernel cause what I see in the past is that custom ROM works perfectly only on Nexus devices but custom kernel could really improve stock experience in terms of fluidity and battery life without losing features that comes only with stock ROM (e.g. camera or dual window).

I would have 5.1 or Android 6.0 over CM 13 any day. I use quick circle case so dont want to lose awesome feature to give up
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