Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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CM13 IS Marshmallow you i... also, CM13 has multiwindow too. None of them has "defects". They both work great. They work so great infact that it's no longer a question of functionality but rather a question of preference.
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Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Well I tried it a week ago exactly. That build had more than just "some bugs". App wise you are right, there is Proshot and Camera FV-5. But you mean CM13 now also has a working laser focus, spectrum sensor and long exposure for the camera?
What about qslide? Is it available on cm 13? And which camera app is better than lg stock camera or cm13 camera? And what about lg apps? I mean calendar, smart notice, quick remote. Its important for me.
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I you don't care about camera quality: CM13 all the way. But if you care, forget CM13. Camera it's just horrible. Photos with horrible quality, not so many options, strange ratio, etc.
I've tried CM13 one day after use stock MM for almost a month (the seven version) and returned to stock because camera.
I completely agree. CM 13 is an amazing project but I think that is a little bit unfair put a young project devolped by a guy or two VS the stock one that starts from completely different conditions.
At this stage of development there is no contest simply because CM 13 has a lot of bugs and no real optimizations focused on G4 only.
All that said what I hope is to have in the future someone that works on a custom kernel cause what I see in the past is that custom ROM works perfectly only on Nexus devices but custom kernel could really improve stock experience in terms of fluidity and battery life without losing features that comes only with stock ROM (e.g. camera or dual window).
I would have 5.1 or Android 6.0 over CM 13 any day. I use quick circle case so dont want to lose awesome feature to give up
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Well I'm gonna get straight to the point. Cyanogenmod has downgraded the camera on my Galaxy S4. Photos are significantly noisier and overall lacking in the photo department. I went to Best buy to compare a stock S4 to my CyanogenMod S4 and right there and then my worries were confirmed. Is there any way to keep cyanogen mod and get back the awesome camera quality of the stock S4? The camera downgrade is really getting on my last nerve.
It was the CyanogenMod installed through the play store BTW..
You got a few options
1) ditch CM all together, and use a GPE rom. This is AOSP built by samsung and google. It does not have any of the issues CM has.
now.. some "RDs" on this site insist that the GPE edition roms are TW based, simply because they use the same kernels - this is not true. An adroid 4.3 kernel will work on a 4.3 rom, be it touchwiz, or aosp, and same with Android 4.4
I personally run VirginROM 2.5.4 with a custom kernel that is not allowed on XDA, and my stability is 100%, battery life lasts about 2 or so day with moderate use, and audio/video (what there kernels are known for) rock. These kernels do not overclock, but excel over others that do overclock when it comes to performance.
2) compile the focal camera app yourself and deal with all the CM issues, flaws, and "hybrid" merges...
3) purchased/download a 3rd party app from the google play store
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Well I'm gonna get straight to the point. Cyanogenmod has downgraded the camera on my Galaxy S4. Photos are significantly noisier and overall lacking in the photo department. I went to Best buy to compare a stock S4 to my CyanogenMod S4 and right there and then my worries were confirmed. Is there any way to keep cyanogen mod and get back the awesome camera quality of the stock S4? The camera downgrade is really getting on my last nerve.
It was the CyanogenMod installed through the play store BTW..
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First off, no kidding. This did not need a new thread to be discussed. There are literally a thousand posts abotu camera quality with CM ROMS on the various S4 variant forums. Any search at all would have shown you the answer. Here's an example with posts from less than a week ago that explains this throughly.
Second, if this gets on your last nerve, get rid of CM and return to stock. This is the price of using CM. The camera isn't as good. Complaining about it and acting like CM owes you a better camera is downright rude to the CM team who gives you their ROM for free out of a desire to give a gift to the world. They don't owe you a thing.
The short version to your question abotu getting the CM camera back is simply no.
The long version is...
The issue with the camera in AOSP ROMS is that the stock TouchWiz camera has all kinds of proprietary software driving it. That software is built into different parts of the rom and absolutely requires the TouchWiz framework to run. (Which is also proprietary). You can't just pull the APK out of TouchWiz and install it on AOSP.
So there is no way to get the stock TW camera to run on any AOSP rom.
This means that any other app that is using the camera is using generic software to run the camera hardware. This leaves out the ability to do things that the TW software was specifically written to do like crisp auto focus and color depth and all those goodies that make the TW camera better. All that software was written specificly for the S4 hardware.
The Cyanogen camera or the Google stock camera is just an app using generic software not written specificly for this phone's camera hardware. That's no different than ANY other camera you can find on Google Play. They are ALL using generic software.
As a result, none of them are every going to be as crisp as the TouchWiz camera software. They almost all still take a really good picture with this phone, and many give various effects you might enjoy, but if you are looking the actual stock camera app that takes a higher resolution, better focused picture than the CM camera, you're not going to be able to do it.
Even with all that, the S4 camera hardware with CM camera software It's still better than most other phones on the market.
At the end of the day, it's not a camera that makes phone calls. It's a phone that has a camera in it. If photography is that big of a deal to you, you're never going to be happy with anything other than a true SLR. There's nothing wrong with that, mind you. But please stop complaining about the quality of the free ROM that har dworking developers put together in their spare time and gave to you as a gift with no questions or strings atatched.
Well Said !!
I appreciate the way you explained. :good:
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First off, no kidding. This did not need a new thread to be discussed. There are literally a thousand posts abotu camera quality with CM ROMS on the various S4 variant forums. Any search at all would have shown you the answer. Here's an example with posts from less than a week ago that explains this throughly.
Second, if this gets on your last nerve, get rid of CM and return to stock. This is the price of using CM. The camera isn't as good. Complaining about it and acting like CM owes you a better camera is downright rude to the CM team who gives you their ROM for free out of a desire to give a gift to the world. They don't owe you a thing.
The short version to your question abotu getting the CM camera back is simply no.
The long version is...
The issue with the camera in AOSP ROMS is that the stock TouchWiz camera has all kinds of proprietary software driving it. That software is built into different parts of the rom and absolutely requires the TouchWiz framework to run. (Which is also proprietary). You can't just pull the APK out of TouchWiz and install it on AOSP.
So there is no way to get the stock TW camera to run on any AOSP rom.
This means that any other app that is using the camera is using generic software to run the camera hardware. This leaves out the ability to do things that the TW software was specifically written to do like crisp auto focus and color depth and all those goodies that make the TW camera better. All that software was written specificly for the S4 hardware.
The Cyanogen camera or the Google stock camera is just an app using generic software not written specificly for this phone's camera hardware. That's no different than ANY other camera you can find on Google Play. They are ALL using generic software.
As a result, none of them are every going to be as crisp as the TouchWiz camera software. They almost all still take a really good picture with this phone, and many give various effects you might enjoy, but if you are looking the actual stock camera app that takes a higher resolution, better focused picture than the CM camera, you're not going to be able to do it.
Even with all that, the S4 camera hardware with CM camera software It's still better than most other phones on the market.
At the end of the day, it's not a camera that makes phone calls. It's a phone that has a camera in it. If photography is that big of a deal to you, you're never going to be happy with anything other than a true SLR. There's nothing wrong with that, mind you. But please stop complaining about the quality of the free ROM that har dworking developers put together in their spare time and gave to you as a gift with no questions or strings atatched.
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I have asked this question elsewhere but didn't get an answer so I'm trying here.
I've had 3 generations of Samsungs and I really want to switch to something different, possibly the LG G3. What would really convince me is if I could reasonably anticipate a rock solid AOSP ROM for it at some point in the future. I'm sick of Samsungs bulky and laggy Touchwiz, and I've fallen in love with the pure Google experience that AOSP roms offer; but while they work OK on the Samsung, they suffer from a drop in quality and performance because I am told Samsung drivers are not open source and they have to use open source alternatives.
I've noticed that LG have an open source code distribution page with software for phones on it. Now I'm no developer, so the question I am asking is - do LG release their code open source? And does this mean that original developers are able to drive the LG hardware properly? What were AOSP roms like for the G2?
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I have asked this question elsewhere but didn't get an answer so I'm trying here.
I've had 3 generations of Samsungs and I really want to switch to something different, possibly the LG G3. What would really convince me is if I could reasonably anticipate a rock solid AOSP ROM for it at some point in the future. I'm sick of Samsungs bulky and laggy Touchwiz, and I've fallen in love with the pure Google experience that AOSP roms offer; but while they work OK on the Samsung, they suffer from a drop in quality and performance because I am told Samsung drivers are not open source and they have to use open source alternatives.
I've noticed that LG have an open source code distribution page with software for phones on it. Now I'm no developer, so the question I am asking is - do LG release their code open source? And does this mean that original developers are able to drive the LG hardware properly? What were AOSP roms like for the G2?
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the aosp builds for the g2 are pretty stable..it only took them a few weeks to sort them out but i just wish they offered a google edition like many companies are doing with their devices like the m8..s5..etc
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the aosp builds for the g2 are pretty stable..it only took them a few weeks to sort them out but i just wish they offered a google edition like many companies are doing with their devices like the m8..s5..etc
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Thanks for the reply. I found one or two aosp builds for my Galaxy S3 that I would describe as 'stable' in that they don't crash or lock up - but the audio quality using an open source driver is noticeably poorer, and that affects using the phone, audio messages, music playback, and video recording/playback - to the point that it just wasn't acceptable to me. My camera would always crash on aosp roms too.
So I'm still interested to know if original developers have access to the source code for for the G3 hardware - because if I'm paying for a 13mp laser guided camera, I want it to still function as it should under any rom I put on it!
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Thanks for the reply. I found one or two aosp builds for my Galaxy S3 that I would describe as 'stable' in that they don't crash or lock up - but the audio quality using an open source driver is noticeably poorer, and that affects using the phone, audio messages, music playback, and video recording/playback - to the point that it just wasn't acceptable to me. My camera would always crash on aosp roms too.
So I'm still interested to know if original developers have access to the source code for for the G3 hardware - because if I'm paying for a 13mp laser guided camera, I want it to still function as it should under any rom I put on it!
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I was also wondering about this. On the Htc one xl the aosp camera was significantly worse than the sense one.
Is there any way to know if when the g3 gets aosp there will be any driver issues? The g3 on paper seems absolutely fantastic but the possibility of no aosp or aosp with less functionality is terrifying to me.
I wish there was a GPE version of the G3.
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Thanks for the reply. I found one or two aosp builds for my Galaxy S3 that I would describe as 'stable' in that they don't crash or lock up - but the audio quality using an open source driver is noticeably poorer, and that affects using the phone, audio messages, music playback, and video recording/playback - to the point that it just wasn't acceptable to me. My camera would always crash on aosp roms too.
So I'm still interested to know if original developers have access to the source code for for the G3 hardware - because if I'm paying for a 13mp laser guided camera, I want it to still function as it should under any rom I put on it!
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I THINK a lot of code is shared from these manufacturers but camera stuff may not be on that list . Just got the LG G3 yesterday and i don't like it at all besides the camera , finding it kinda laggy in comparison to N5 ( if u use the resents button a lot u'll notice ) and its not the same build quality as my G2 , feels cheaper to me . I'm a fan of AOSP, all my devices have some form of it, this G3 may be going back to the store for a new M8 its pretty easy convert to full GPE . and i love my M7
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the aosp builds for the g2 are pretty stable..it only took them a few weeks to sort them out but i just wish they offered a google edition like many companies are doing with their devices like the m8..s5..etc
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Where can I download the AOSP builds for g3? If they don't exist, where will I go to find them when they do exist?
Thanks!
distancesprinter said:
Where can I download the AOSP builds for g3? If they don't exist, where will I go to find them when they do exist?
Thanks!
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They don't exist yet. From what I understand the boot loader hasn't even been unlocked yet. I guess there are people working on it tho. As far as where you can find the builds, they'll be here on XDA, either in the Android Development section of this G3 forum, or in the carrier specific G3 sections (which have yet to be created).
Never mind, I guess they just created the carrier threads.....
Hello Forum
I'm trying to find a replacement for my s4, and looking at the G3. I'd like to know what you give up when you root/rom this phone. I understand the Sony Z3 camera software is lost, and can't find any specific mention in my googling.
Also, I understand some/all LG apps are not cracked. Anything that kills the features that make the phone special, or typical mfg bloat? I can't bring myself to accept stock.
Rooting i think you only really lose OTA - flashing a custom ROM, depends on the ROM, you may lose some system apps and the LG widgets but thats about it.
Custom ROM's are still in there infancy just now on the G3.
Any comparison of pre/post? It's a pretty significant issue, especially considering the G3 is being touted as the best android camera at the moment.
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Any comparison of pre/post? It's a pretty significant issue, especially considering the G3 is being touted as the best android camera at the moment.
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I wouldn't go that far. The camera is OK but z2 or z3 are better. The only down side to z2 or z3 is 16gb build in storage.
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Like it's been said before, you'll lose OTA with root, but remaining on a stock-LG based ROM will let you keep all the features.
The downside to moving to AOSP that I can see is losing the stock camera app itself.. The hand gesture to take selfies from the front cam is really neat & useful. Aside from that I don't think there is much to miss from stock software.
Hi guys, has anyone tried to make an AOSP Lollipop build for D855? It would be awesome, I can't actually use the official Lollipop firmware (too laggy for a Nexus user ), and I'm sure that other members will appreciate it...
Sorry for my bad English
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Yes I'm testing right now as I type this.
Sometimes it's not the content, but the tone that's insulting. I never had issues with critical remarks during my active time in my threads, it was just when users were impolite or were requesting stuff instead of asking. So like in real life it does make a difference how you deliver your message.
In any case we all chill now and have a cold beer or decent wine
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So to get back on topic, I would really love a pure aosp build. I used it on my Xperia z from pabx and I did convert my HTC one to gpe. I really miss it. People I offer to test
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People I offer to test
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Me too guys, if you are searching for testers...they're here ?
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If you ask me it's not AOSP Lollipop that we need (Because it really has little to offer now that we have the LG Lollipop + AOSP 4.4.4 builds).
I used to have a N5 with Lollipop and it's super nice and everything, but I think we need AOSP + Proper camera support.
If that happens I'm off LG's slow crappy software package.
I get almost 3000 in GeekBench on AOSP while LG Lollipop is a wooping 2300. Woop woop LG. :laugh:
Please be respectful to other members. If you do see someone violating Forum Rules, use the report post function instead of posting 3 pages of nonsense. Let us handle it.
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Thanks.
I'll be willing to test and AOSP Lollipop build for the D855 model. LG's UI is nice but having had a Nexus in the past, I don't find anything better than Vanilla Android.
LGs terrible UI makes me miss my nexus 5 Will there be an official CM 12 build for the g3?
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LGs terrible UI makes me miss my nexus 5 Will there be an official CM 12 build for the g3?
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I think we will probably get it and a few other official builds of different ROMs as well.
I suspect the reason we haven't had many KitKat AOSP ROMs is because the we've only just been given a way to flash them and a lot of the ROM teams have stopped working on KitKat to concentrate on Lollipop.
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I think we will probably get it and a few other official builds of different ROMs as well.
I suspect the reason we haven't had many KitKat AOSP ROMs is because the we've only just been given a way to flash them and a lot of the ROM teams have stopped working on KitKat to concentrate on Lollipop.
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I am thinking the same way. We will get official supported by cyanogenmod etc. When they all bring out theyr lolipop versions.
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Lollipop in D855 is having issues flashing right now, not to mention huge amount of issues running, it will take a few more weeks until it can be run as a nightly
D851 got a CM12 build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2866772
:good: thanx
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If you ask me it's not AOSP Lollipop that we need (Because it really has little to offer now that we have the LG Lollipop + AOSP 4.4.4 builds).
I used to have a N5 with Lollipop and it's super nice and everything, but I think we need AOSP + Proper camera support.
If that happens I'm off LG's slow crappy software package.
I get almost 3000 in GeekBench on AOSP while LG Lollipop is a wooping 2300. Woop woop LG. :laugh:
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Does XCam qualify as proper camera support?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/app-xcam-lg-v5-1-0-t2873604
I'm also one that falls into the "LG's UI stinks" camp. It's just awful.
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Does XCam qualify as proper camera support?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/app-xcam-lg-v5-1-0-t2873604
I'm also one that falls into the "LG's UI stinks" camp. It's just awful.
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It states its only for stock lg rom, so no, im guessing aosp roms cant make use of the 2k and laser focus?
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It states its only for stock lg rom, so no, im guessing aosp roms cant make use of the 2k and laser focus?
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Ah yes, you're absolutely right of course.
Derduden said:
If you ask me it's not AOSP Lollipop that we need (Because it really has little to offer now that we have the LG Lollipop + AOSP 4.4.4 builds).
I used to have a N5 with Lollipop and it's super nice and everything, but I think we need AOSP + Proper camera support.
If that happens I'm off LG's slow crappy software package.
I get almost 3000 in GeekBench on AOSP while LG Lollipop is a wooping 2300. Woop woop LG. :laugh:
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This is my result in GeekBench on LG Lollipop AN HD 3.3 + Chupachups 1.5
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1293412
single 973 and 3074 multi
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This is my result in GeekBench on LG Lollipop AN HD 3.3 + Chupachups 1.5
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1293412
single 973 and 3074 multi
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which settings on the kernel?
Governor lagfree but on ondemandplus I have very similar results like 960 2950.
Yep [emoji33] now phone is fast as it should be.
I want to see results from cm12, BTW is kinda here.
I'm thinking of buying a 32gb G3 but I really don't like slowdowns, lag, stutter or whatever. What is your experience with the G3 updated to Lollipop ? The same laggy experience ? Speaking about frame rate in heavy graphics games, opening/closing/switching apps, scrolling things, in fact the general 'responsiveness' ?
What about a rooted G3, with Cyangonmod. Any difference in performance ?
Or should I better look at the G2(rooted to kill bloatware) / S5 / Xperia Z2 / Oneplus one ?
I wouldn't say it's laggy but no matter what rom i use wether cyanogen or stock it's still not as fast as my friends stock one plus one
With cyanogenmod based roms the g3 is amazing. Not lag
plz update to last version 20i not lag
The stock LG firmware is prone to slight lag and animation stuttering, though it opens, closes and runs tasks quite well. It appears to improve as LG roll the updates, and there is a promise of a fresh new UI coming with the G4, but it's still not good enough for a flagship phone.
Now, the moment you run CM12, RR or any other AOSP based rom the phone performs as it's supposed to. Animations are perfectly fluid, everything just flies. It literally feels like a hardware upgrade.
The phone is really great, I wouldn't consider any other 5.5 screen (or up) because of the size of the devices. LG made something special here, though It's a bit sad that they haven't figured out the software side of things just yet, but we have hopes things are going for the better.
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The stock LG firmware is prone to slight lag and animation stuttering, though it opens, closes and runs tasks quite well. It appears to improve as LG roll the updates, and there is a promise of a fresh new UI coming with the G4, but it's still not good enough for a flagship phone.
Now, the moment you run CM12, RR or any other AOSP based rom the phone performs as it's supposed to. Animations are perfectly fluid, everything just flies. It literally feels like a hardware upgrade.
The phone is really great, I wouldn't consider any other 5.5 screen (or up) because of the size of the devices. LG made something special here, though It's a bit sad that they haven't figured out the software side of things just yet, but we have hopes things are going for the better.
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I heard you lose all the camera quality and features like laser autofocus when you switch to AOSP, is this true?
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I heard you lose all the camera quality and features like laser autofocus when you switch to AOSP, is this true?
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I can't say about the laser focus because last I heard someone confirmed it's working. There is loss in quality for low light photos, but bright photos are as good as stock. Also there is no 4K recording yet.
Camera was never my thing though, so I didn't give it a proper test run.
Thanks for the answers. I'll have to choose between the S5 and the G3. The Xperia Z2 and OPO were also options, but these are just too big. And most likely the OP2 will be bigger. Let's see which of them gets cheaper quicker...