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I'm thinking of buying a 32gb G3 but I really don't like slowdowns, lag, stutter or whatever. What is your experience with the G3 updated to Lollipop ? The same laggy experience ? Speaking about frame rate in heavy graphics games, opening/closing/switching apps, scrolling things, in fact the general 'responsiveness' ?
What about a rooted G3, with Cyangonmod. Any difference in performance ?
Or should I better look at the G2(rooted to kill bloatware) / S5 / Xperia Z2 / Oneplus one ?
I wouldn't say it's laggy but no matter what rom i use wether cyanogen or stock it's still not as fast as my friends stock one plus one
With cyanogenmod based roms the g3 is amazing. Not lag
plz update to last version 20i not lag
The stock LG firmware is prone to slight lag and animation stuttering, though it opens, closes and runs tasks quite well. It appears to improve as LG roll the updates, and there is a promise of a fresh new UI coming with the G4, but it's still not good enough for a flagship phone.
Now, the moment you run CM12, RR or any other AOSP based rom the phone performs as it's supposed to. Animations are perfectly fluid, everything just flies. It literally feels like a hardware upgrade.
The phone is really great, I wouldn't consider any other 5.5 screen (or up) because of the size of the devices. LG made something special here, though It's a bit sad that they haven't figured out the software side of things just yet, but we have hopes things are going for the better.
igor_anta said:
The stock LG firmware is prone to slight lag and animation stuttering, though it opens, closes and runs tasks quite well. It appears to improve as LG roll the updates, and there is a promise of a fresh new UI coming with the G4, but it's still not good enough for a flagship phone.
Now, the moment you run CM12, RR or any other AOSP based rom the phone performs as it's supposed to. Animations are perfectly fluid, everything just flies. It literally feels like a hardware upgrade.
The phone is really great, I wouldn't consider any other 5.5 screen (or up) because of the size of the devices. LG made something special here, though It's a bit sad that they haven't figured out the software side of things just yet, but we have hopes things are going for the better.
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I heard you lose all the camera quality and features like laser autofocus when you switch to AOSP, is this true?
oxxshadow said:
I heard you lose all the camera quality and features like laser autofocus when you switch to AOSP, is this true?
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I can't say about the laser focus because last I heard someone confirmed it's working. There is loss in quality for low light photos, but bright photos are as good as stock. Also there is no 4K recording yet.
Camera was never my thing though, so I didn't give it a proper test run.
Thanks for the answers. I'll have to choose between the S5 and the G3. The Xperia Z2 and OPO were also options, but these are just too big. And most likely the OP2 will be bigger. Let's see which of them gets cheaper quicker...
I'm a long time Samsung user and am considering getting my first LG phone. Does anyone know if the G4 will have a locked bootloader or one that will at least be unlockable? My other question is regarding the camera performance. My S5 hasn't seen an AOSP based ROM in about 6 months because of the huge drop in picture quality and I'm wondering if this is also the case with LG phones?
calvin35 said:
I'm a long time Samsung user and am considering getting my first LG phone. Does anyone know if the G4 will have a locked bootloader or one that will at least be unlockable? My other question is regarding the camera performance. My S5 hasn't seen an AOSP based ROM in about 6 months because of the huge drop in picture quality and I'm wondering if this is also the case with LG phones?
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If you're on T-Mobile, you should know they don't lock their phones and/or they are extremely easy to unlock (compared to Verizon and AT&T). As far as the camera goes, the G4's is the best on the market right now. AOSP gets rid of all the extras that come with the stock camera apps, so you'd either have to sacrifice that or deal with stock features.
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If you're on T-Mobile, you should know they don't lock their phones and/or they are extremely easy to unlock (compared to Verizon and AT&T). As far as the camera goes, the G4's is the best on the market right now. AOSP gets rid of all the extras that come with the stock camera apps, so you'd either have to sacrifice that or deal with stock features.
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I'm aware that I will lose features on the camera but on the S5 aosp camera performance in auto mode is much worse than on the stock ROM and I wasn't too know if that is also the case on LG phones?
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I'm aware that I will lose features on the camera but on the S5 aosp camera performance in auto mode is much worse than on the stock ROM and I wasn't too know if that is also the case on LG phones?
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We'd have to wait and see. Can always ask people in the G3 forums how it was. I know this camera has a manually focus mode (which I'm super pumped for) so that might make a difference? I just PO'd mine now.
Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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CM13 IS Marshmallow you i... also, CM13 has multiwindow too. None of them has "defects". They both work great. They work so great infact that it's no longer a question of functionality but rather a question of preference.
patryk.kecik said:
Like in the topic, which is better? CM have better performance but marshmallow is better cuz it have dual window, qslide etc.
I dont know :/ write advantages and defects of both, PLEASE!
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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You mean CM vs LG Stock? Currently stock. CM13 still has a lot of bugs + way worse camera (in terms of functions)
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Except, it doesn't have "a lot of bugs". It has "some" bugs, most of which you won't even notice, as any ROM out there has, even official OEM ones. The camera is a non-issue as you can easily find apps in the Play Store that have even more functionality than LG's stock camera app.
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Well I tried it a week ago exactly. That build had more than just "some bugs". App wise you are right, there is Proshot and Camera FV-5. But you mean CM13 now also has a working laser focus, spectrum sensor and long exposure for the camera?
What about qslide? Is it available on cm 13? And which camera app is better than lg stock camera or cm13 camera? And what about lg apps? I mean calendar, smart notice, quick remote. Its important for me.
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I you don't care about camera quality: CM13 all the way. But if you care, forget CM13. Camera it's just horrible. Photos with horrible quality, not so many options, strange ratio, etc.
I've tried CM13 one day after use stock MM for almost a month (the seven version) and returned to stock because camera.
I completely agree. CM 13 is an amazing project but I think that is a little bit unfair put a young project devolped by a guy or two VS the stock one that starts from completely different conditions.
At this stage of development there is no contest simply because CM 13 has a lot of bugs and no real optimizations focused on G4 only.
All that said what I hope is to have in the future someone that works on a custom kernel cause what I see in the past is that custom ROM works perfectly only on Nexus devices but custom kernel could really improve stock experience in terms of fluidity and battery life without losing features that comes only with stock ROM (e.g. camera or dual window).
I would have 5.1 or Android 6.0 over CM 13 any day. I use quick circle case so dont want to lose awesome feature to give up
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Hello world,
I currently have a galaxy s2, running lollipop. I've stretched out the use of this puppy pretty far, but I've decided it's time to upgrade. At first I figured I'd go with something like an s5, but then I discovered the g3. It looks great, but of course the biggest design difference is the rear buttons. I can tell from reading that g3 owners really love it, but I don't have access to get my hands on one, and I'm hesitant to make the jump.
If I get one, I'll definitely root it, and I may install a custom ROM. Do custom ROMs still support the "knock on" feature? Would it work natively for most ROMs, or would I have to be careful about finding a ROM that supports it? Having that feature definitely makes the rear buttons less daunting. Does the knock-on feature eat up battery life?
I also like using my side volume keys to take pictures instead of the screen; does the rear button help with taking pictures, or is it easier to use the touchscreen?
I've never even used a navbar before, so jumping from all hard buttons to the g3 bezel is a big change for me.
Anything else I should know to help me decide?
Thanks for the advice!
I had a S2(plus) before i got the G3, you will get used to the back buttons pretty quick.
The rear buttons are good for non-landscape photos like selfies.
Some custom roms have the knock on feature, but they are based on the lg stock rom.
Also, you can find the G3 pretty cheap nowadays so if you are looking for great performance and good battery life(on MM) get the G3.
(Also, if you can, try to get the 32gb model as it comes with 3gb of ram)
E: the navbar will feel wierd at first as the back button is on the left side, this can be changed in the settings.
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Knock on has worked on every Rom I have tried, and I've tried a bunch. It does not noticeably reduce battery life.
Because there are no side buttons you need to use the screen to take photos, its never been a problem for me and the G3 takes some pretty good pictures if you are on an LG based Rom. Aosp or CM roms have no access to the cameras potential and end up taking pretty bad pictures compared to stock... Passable but stock is just that good.
My best selling points would be that this phone is still getting updates, is rooted, extensive development, performance on par with current flagships (for everyday use, not so much for gaming), has a very high screen to body ratio, has an or blaster, great battery life, SD card, removable battery, and great screen... It's hard to find a better phone and I have been looking.
I upgraded to the G4 when it came out and couldn't deal without root but it might be worth checking out now.
Every other phone either doesn't have root or doesn't have enough to beat the g3... My current work phone is a note 5 and I love/hate it... So much potential but no root and no sd
So it sounds like I would have to be careful about choosing just any ROMs. But are there a good amount of options that are stock-based, with room for customization? I tend to like the feature set of slim-based ROMs.
Thanks for the tip about the 32gb. I'm planning to spend about $200 on swappa, so it's right up my alley.
Thanks again!
arttuh said:
I had a S2(plus) before i got the G3, you will get used to the back buttons pretty quick.
The rear buttons are good for non-landscape photos like selfies.
Some custom roms have the knock on feature, but they are based on the lg stock rom.
Also, you can find the G3 pretty cheap nowadays so if you are looking for great performance and good battery life(on MM) get the G3.
(Also, if you can, try to get the 32gb model as it comes with 3gb of ram)
E: the navbar will feel wierd at first as the back button is on the left side, this can be changed in the settings.
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So it sounds like I would have to be careful about choosing just any ROMs. But are there a good amount of options that are stock-based, with room for customization? I tend to like the feature set of slim-based ROMs.
Thanks for the tip about the 32gb. I'm planning to spend about $200 on swappa, so it's right up my alley.
Thanks again!
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I've had my G3 for half a year now, loved it.
Regarding your questions,
- Almost every single rom is equipped with knock on feature (double-tap to wake), while knock code (tapping a preset sequence on your screen-off) is only available on stock roms. Yes it's integrated natively, and no it doesn't eat up battery life.
- Yes you can use volume buttons to take pictures on G3, just that they are on the rear now. I actually prefer this because it's more natural to use my index finger on the read to take a picture, as compared to pressing side volume buttons on my old Optimus G. You'll get used to the rear buttons and find that they are much more comfortable to use than side buttons.
- You will probably get used to the navbar really quickly, given that it works the same way as physical buttons
- There are a variety of roms to choose from, and the best stock-based I've used so far is the Ti-X rom which is a continuation of CloudyG3 2.5. Some of them may not be on xda but on Google+ you can find more (NovaStock, Lion rom, etc.)
A few pointers you should note:
- Marshmallow, as of now, is only out for Poland and Korea G3, though it will roll out to other countries soon enough.
- There have been reports of overheating but recent updates solved that issue for me so yay!
- AOSP roms like cyanogenmod, candysix, etc, will not be able to make use of the full potential of the camera. You can flash camera mods like m9 camera mod but it will still not be as good as on stock.
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those
Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.
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So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg
There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...
personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.
I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.
Overlord Yuri said:
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....
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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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