camera in 4.3 - Sony Xperia ZL

does the 4.3 update improve the camera?n how bad is the camera in low light is it better than galaxy s2 in low light?

Definitively it is better
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Is it better in low light also?n did the update increase csmera quality than b4?
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For me its much better camera on android 4.2.2 tan 4.3

bhavstech said:
does the 4.3 update improve the camera?n how bad is the camera in low light is it better than galaxy s2 in low light?
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I'll test... (have a T989 sitting here as well...)

scifan said:
I'll test... (have a T989 sitting here as well...)
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Post results, please. My ZL is getting repaired and im dying to test the camera. :cyclops:

Hmm... Not sure if this will share right...Flicker-set
Here's a couple of pictures taken with and without flash of a rack of servers and of a bookshelf. The shots include those taken with the ZL, a S2, and a S3...
I would say the ZL does ok... though I like the manual pictures better than the Superior Auto. Alot of noise gets introduced when it tries to adjust the ISO settings to something way past the optics of the phone.
I haven't really looked at the camera on anything pre 2.67...)
Note - the S2 is running T989UVMC6 (4.1.2), the S3 is an I747 running 4.1.1 JR003L.I747UCDLK3.
Both phones are rooted, but are running stock TW roms.

I actually disagree, and think that the stock camera app was better in Android 4.2. It doesn't seem nearly as good in low light areas with Android 4.3, compared to before the update. I have been searching for a camera app on the Play Store for a little while today, and I might try a few and compare the qualities of them versus the stock Sony camera app.
Has anyone else tried any different camera apps on the Play Store?

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FB17 - Zero shutter lag camera

Ok guys - i'm somewhat of a noob.
Obviously the camera in fb17 hasn't changed at all. What are the chances (even if samsung does not update to the galaxy nexus camera app) that it can be ported over to the E4GT with zero shutter lag capability. I mean, afterall the camera specs of the E4GT seem to exceed the galaxy nexus...so why not?
Any educated guesses here?
Thank you in advance.
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great question, frankly.
i wonder if this is something that will change with a final build, as it didn't seem to me that the press release was saying this was a "nexus" feature, but an ICS one....
that being said, and pardon my lack of correct terminology for phone motherboard HW, but it may be something similar to a "chipset" issue, or a CPU/GPU to camera HW communications issue, if this is indeed a HW issue and not simple a missing driver or software update not implemented yet. I wouldn't think it has anything to do with the camera HW itself. A 0-lag camera would have to be about either a really well written driver, or a specilized feature of a chip that can communicate the information to the CPU.
You can push it via adb i think ssconceptz did it.
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You made some good points...i hope it doesn't end up being a hardware issue...
oh wow...let's hope for the best i guess
Wow, great question, I hadn't even thought of this. I must admit I tried the camera on a Nexus and was kinda jealous. Let's hope for the best!
Its hardware. The Sensor on the Nexus is new and designed specifically to process a picture in a fraction of the time a standard sensor does. In doing this it was not possible to have the sensor as high res (8mp) as the Epic 4G Touch. The Epic Touch actually has a very low shutter response time, and high process time for an 8 MP phone sensor.
Oh maaan that's messed up. I specifically got the E4GT thinking it was a new software feature that got introduced in ICS and since the hardware specs were similar to the galaxy nexus, I didn't think it was going to be a problem...oh well..
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Its hardware. The Sensor on the Nexus is new and designed specifically to process a picture in a fraction of the time a standard sensor does. In doing this it was not possible to have the sensor as high res (8mp) as the Epic 4G Touch. The Epic Touch actually has a very low shutter response time, and high process time for an 8 MP phone sensor.
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I thought the GN had the same sensor as the SGS series...
Korey_Nicholson said:
I thought the GN had the same sensor as the SGS series...
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5 megapixel, not that that matters. But I also don't think it's backside illuminated like the SGS2 and iPhone 4S. Could definitely be wrong about that one.
Does SGSII leaks have instant capture?
Just use "Camera ICS" on the Android Market...
It is the Stock Camera from the Galaxy Nexus as you wanted, but should be compatible.... you must be running ICS I hear....
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5tb2JseW54LmNhbWVyYWljcyJd
Interesting...thanks for the tip.
I tested it just new but night zero shutter lag.
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just download Fast Burst Camera from the market. it takes 100 somewhat photos in 10-15 seconds... it works for me. im running stock rooted FB17
The problem is that the pics are low res...
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rogueleadr said:
Interesting...thanks for the tip.
I tested it just new but night zero shutter lag.
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Someone said that it's zero shutter lag... sorry
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Please keep in mind that you are capturing a huge image!!! You are capturing an 8 MEGA pixeel image, you'll nearly never get a COMPLETE ZERO lag...
Another question:
Will 1080p video recording ever work normaly?
I do.t know ebout everybody else because I havent seen no threads on this but my 1080p has "ghosting" and lags on two different Epics and all roms.720p is beautiful but 1080 is useless.I don'teven know why they included that option.
AOSP Camera works fine in FB17 but yes it's hardware related not software. You can try out the ICS theme we just posted for FB17, it has the Camera from AOSP in there.
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Another question:
Will 1080p video recording ever work normaly?
I do.t know ebout everybody else because I havent seen no threads on this but my 1080p has "ghosting" and lags on two different Epics and all roms.720p is beautiful but 1080 is useless.I don'teven know why they included that option.
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I think your lag is sd related if your recording to external storage that is slow. I have recorded several soccer games that are at a fast pace and looks perfect in 1080p.
True but the iphone is capable to capture an 8mp picture with zero shutter lag...so....
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Awesome i will have to check it out !
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Just Got My ZL , Should i Update??

Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.
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Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.
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Well I'm for one just updated to 4.2.2...the difference is that I know of is the memory card capacity is upgraded to 64GB..and the lock screen is a bit different..they put up a window for apps..an small apps icon is simpler but boring looking...and somehow, the camera is producing not impressive result...my xperia t and iphone 4 produce finer detail than my zl...wonder why...hmm
Haven't really had any issues with 4.2.2
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When I used the 4.2.2 update it made my phone buggy and laggy.
I have not had any problems so far with 4.2.2.
Same here, not problem at all in 4.2.2
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No problems on eXistenz rom, pretty smooth especially with Nova launcher. I've found stock launcher to be buggy and laggy, as well once root access is available you can modify files that will promote speed, better ram access, wake lock detector to avoid draining apps that are useless, etc. On average I get 4 hours of screen time with around 20-30 hours of standby with typical use of music, texting, internet, etc.
the people who have 4.2.2 can tell if the max resolution of the camera is 13 MPX ? ore 12MPX.
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the people who have 4.2.2 can tell if the max resolution of the camera is 13 MPX ? ore 12MPX.
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4.2.2 has 12 Mpx in Auto Superior and 13 Mpx in Normal mode.
Andre Verissimo said:
4.2.2 has 12 Mpx in Auto Superior and 13 Mpx in Normal mode.
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are u sure? how can you see the resolution in Auto mode? , when i saw the max resolution in normal mode the max was 12 and not 13, can you check that out ?
markdexter said:
Just got my ZL on the Bell Network. It came with Android 4.1.2
Should I update the software? Im not interested in Rooting it yet, just wanna try it out for a few weeks stock.
I just don't know whether I should or not, from reading the threads seems like 4.2.2 is kinda Buggy.
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That's a shame sorry to hear you got it if you can return do so. Lol
It's worth updating software.
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are u sure? how can you see the resolution in Auto mode? , when i saw the max resolution in normal mode the max was 12 and not 13, can you check that out ?
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Max res in Auto: 12
Max res in Normal: 13

Xperia ZL vs Xperia T

Haiyo...for starter, I got both xperia zl and t..both run on 4.2.2...but worder why my xperia t is much faster and smoother than zl and picture more detail in low light in t than zl...both not root by the way...I have compare both, when opening apps and capturing photo...when opening apps, t is slight faster, the same when in browser..and my 13mp t more detail than zl..and it seem the screen is better to..I haven't do a benchmark test yet..but just wondering why dual core more easy to use than quad core...hmm
martin132014 said:
Haiyo...for starter, I got both xperia zl and t..both run on 4.2.2...but worder why my xperia t is much faster and smoother than zl and picture more detail in low light in t than zl...both not root by the way...I have compare both, when opening apps and capturing photo...when opening apps, t is slight faster, the same when in browser..and my 13mp t more detail than zl..and it seem the screen is better to..I haven't do a benchmark test yet..but just wondering why dual core more easy to use than quad core...hmm
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That maybe truth but the real thing about the ZL is that have LTE speed, support up to 64 GB mini SD, latest Android OS, NFC communication, 5.2 inch display (441ppi) running on the Bravia engine 2, infrared port. These are mainly the advantages over the Xperia T
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maclancer said:
That maybe truth but the real thing about the ZL is that have LTE speed, support up to 64 GB mini SD, latest Android OS, NFC communication, 5.2 inch display (441ppi) running on the Bravia engine 2, infrared port. These are mainly the advantages over the Xperia T
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Well, I know this but isn't zl suppost to be superior than t in any way...the advantage that you stated is software related but isn't the purpose of quad core is to be faster and more superior processing power than the dual core....well maybe because all of this new features that make the phone slightly slower than the older t...but despite all this, I just hope the camera in zl is more powerful than t, but from my point of view, maybe it's not...not even the latest update make up for that...hope another update will fix it...still love the zl though...and it's only 5 inch, not 5.2 by the way...
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...still love the zl though...and it's only 5 inch, not 5.2 by the way...
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My bad, thought it was 5.2 inch
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Are you running the latest firmware (.244) on your ZL? it seems to be noticeably snappier than the original 4.2.2 ROM (.423), should also be quicker than an xperia t
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jaetelha said:
Are you running the latest firmware (.244) on your ZL? it seems to be noticeably snappier than the original 4.2.2 ROM (.423), should also be quicker than an xperia t
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Yup..running 4.2.2 (244) on my zl..and to be corrected, my t is running 4.1.2...just test it today again...and yes zl is slightly faster than 423 but still slower a bit than t...it seems everything I opened, t is just instant...but zl seems take a little bit microsecond to open compare to t...both of them just run a factory reset, just to be sure...but still, t still faster..wonder why..and my model is C6502...
Run 3dmark on both phone and post results. I'd be intrested in the results
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zombiej79 said:
Run 3dmark on both phone and post results. I'd be intrested in the results
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Well I'm not convince the test will tell the story but ill do it anyway...benchmark and real life test sometimes different you know...but for educational purposes, ill make the test...I'll do 3dmark and antutu test...after finished, I'll post it here...
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I don't believe in benchmarks myself I'm just intrested thanks buddy
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I kinda agree with OP. I have both T (TL actually) and ZL . TL is probably the fastest phone I have ever used - that thing literally flys. But after the latest update, ZL got very snappy too. Try the stock launcher in case you are using something else.I saw some stutter on Nova so I switched back to stock launcher which runs very smoothly now. Also please keep in mind that majority of these phone apps are not optimized to take advantage of quadcore SoCs and 720p screen on T gives it some advantage when it comes to rendering. TL display also seems to have more contrast especially if you compare the red Xperia wallpaper on both phones
Camerawise, my TL did take better low light pictures before ZL got updates. After the last two updates on ZL, I saw significant improvement in picture quality and I'm really happy with its low light pictures now. With that said, I was surprised how much more detail ZL (running the first firmware) captured in extremely low light situation compared to galaxy S4. It was a huge difference - night and day and things got just better after the latest update.
By the way, ZL is way more compact than TL (higher screen to size ratio), comes with two more cores, IR blaster, and FHD display, looks much better in my opinion, gives much better battery life compared to TL (more than 2X in my case) - So I'd pick it over T.
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I don't believe in benchmarks myself I'm just intrested thanks buddy
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I kinda agree with OP. I have both T (TL actually) and ZL . TL is probably the fastest phone I have ever used - that thing literally flys. But after the latest update ZL got very snappy too. Please keep in mind that majority of these phone apps are not optimized to take advantage of quadcore SoCs and 720p screen on T gives it some advantage when it comes to rendering. TL display also seems to have more contrast especially if you compare the red Xperia wallpaper on both phones
Camerawise, my TL did take better low light pictures before ZL got updates. After the last two updates on ZL, I saw significant improvement in picture quality and I'm really happy with its low light pictures now. With that said, I was surprised how much more detail ZL (running the first firmware) captured in extremely low light situation compared to galaxy S4. It was a huge difference - night and day and things got just better after the latest update.
By the way, ZL is way more compact than TL (higher screen to size ratio), comes with two more cores, IR blaster, and FHD display, looks much better in my opinion, gives much better battery life compared to TL (more than 2X in my case) - So I'd pick it over T.
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Well this is the benchmark result..the first two is zl and the second two is t..not surprising zl is faster but from my opinion the t is still slightly faster...and also only made the test once..
And I also agree with you about your statement, in the end, I also choose zl over t...thanks...
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Benchmarks don't do a justice to T, right? They all are craps anyway - work only for 'expert' reviewers. By the way, you're not using any launcher app on ZL, right? I noticed a bit of lag on Nova after the latest update. So I switched back to stock launcher and it feels very snappy.
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Benchmarks don't do a justice to T, right? They all are craps anyway - work only for 'expert' reviewers. By the way, you're not using any launcher app on ZL, right? I noticed a bit of lag on Nova after the latest update. So I switched back to stock launcher and it feels very snappy.
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Yup, just as expected anyway...when benchmarking, it's seems they effectively use all the core for this result..so more core more score...
Like 7 said, maybe some of the new updated apps not optimized for quad so maybe for real life usage, it feels slower than more optimized phone even though its older..maybe more updates will solve it...
And no, I'm not using any launcher app. If I do I will be using the widget anyway cause xperia widget is to small and not eye catching enough..it's a matter of style anyway...
It's been a long time sinse I'm not using an android phone, so after I got these two and compare it, it just kept me over night, thinking..well, anyone need a snappy phone right..?
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I first owned the Xperia T and switched to ZL because I wanted LTE. I didn't notice differences in speed, both worked really well. One thing I noticed, is the much better battery life of the Xperia ZL. This was besides LTE a main concern when I used the Xperia T.
Nonetheless, a used Xperia T is one of the best deals you can get (at least in Germany) if you don't need LTE and long battery life.
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I first owned the Xperia T and switched to ZL because I wanted LTE. I didn't notice differences in speed, both worked really well. One thing I noticed, is the much better battery life of the Xperia ZL. This was besides LTE a main concern when I used the Xperia T.
Nonetheless, a used Xperia T is one of the best deals you can get (at least in Germany) if you don't need LTE and long battery life.
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Yup, I test it and some difference can be seen.. But I also acknowledge about the battery life..I have test to watch blu-ray video about 2 hours and surprisingly it still got 85% more battery in it without using power management...I have using more android power devises and when I watch it, it will drain half the battery in this format video in that length...really love the zl...
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QX10/QX100 Users Thread

Hi Guys,
I am planning to Buy QX100 - as per reviews its impractical !!
I want to know from the guys who are actually using it.
Its big amount for an accessory (SGD 650), please tell me your experience and should one Buy this or Ignore?
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Hi Guys,
I am planning to Buy QX100 - as per reviews its impractical !!
I want to know from the guys who are actually using it.
Its big amount for an accessory (SGD 650), please tell me your experience and should one Buy this or Ignore?
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There is already a thread on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454053
I found the OP to be very helpful. Read through it and see
qx 10
i order qx 10 from sony centre. Will collect tomorrow..
I just got my QX100 and these are my first impressions:
Good:
+ Incredible photo quality, even the Nokia 1020 isnt close
+ Build quality
+ Good quality 1080p video
+ Fits really good at my Sony Z1 ACX2 case
+ Handy to take with you in a pocket
+ Uses its own memory card and battery
+ Many settings in photo app, feels like a real camera
Not so good:
-The "PlayMemories Mobile" app is so slow and unfriendly to handle
-Takes many many seconds from start to first photo
-Can not use phones built in flash or camera button?
-Battery life doesnt seem that good
-You can not change the folder where it saves the photos on the phone, which makes the photos dont sync with Dropobx etc.
-You can not browse the photos on the camera from the phone
-No way in the app to see which photos (can be auto-copied) and videos (can not be auto-copied) that are saved both on the phone and in the camera memory
-If you copy everything from camera memory to phone memory it will make second copies of the files already in phone memory instead of keeping both folders "in sync".
-No RAW photos
I love everything about the hardware as much as I hate everything about the software. Just the name, "PlayMemories Mobile"?!
I am hoping for an update with RAW files as well as major improvements in the software making it easier to use.
Just replay if you have some specific questions and I will try to answer.
I purchased the Sony DSC-QX10.
Just the novelty of having this cool "toy" and being able to take photos where a normal camera can't.
Would have loved to have bought the QX100, but it's a bit too much bite out of my wallet...the QX10's 10X optical zoom makes up for it though.
The only issue I have so far is there is a slight lag between the QX10 and my Xperia Z1S at times.
Not made for catching any immediate action shots, but stills & portraits are mainly the strengths to the QX10/100.
This definitely isn't a replacement camera, but an additional tool to add to my DSLR camera bag.
Im using qx100 with case for attaching it to z1
Pros
Great photo quality
Z1 acts as detachable viewfinder, useful for filming videos
Supporting tripod
Shutter button on z1 is now supported after the latest firmware upgrade
Cons
Connection is a big hassle, sucess rate is not 100%
When it fails, u hv to shut the playmemories app and the camera down, and restart the connection
After 2 firmware updates, it improves for a bit, still fail to connect from time to time
Playmemories app doesnt stay at background, so.. whenever you mininised the app, you need to re connect the camera with the app once again. Maybe rooting the phone can solve this?
Does not support led flash on z1
When attaching it with z1's exclusive case and take picture with z1's camera, it blocks the view..
You are from Singapore?
U can try getting it from here
http://www.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Mobile/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=413530997
It is around 500$ and seems quite trustable.
kennethlam said:
Im using qx100 with case for attaching it to z1
Pros
Great photo quality
Z1 acts as detachable viewfinder, useful for filming videos
Supporting tripod
Shutter button on z1 is now supported after the latest firmware upgrade
Cons
Connection is a big hassle, sucess rate is not 100%
When it fails, u hv to shut the playmemories app and the camera down, and restart the connection
After 2 firmware updates, it improves for a bit, still fail to connect from time to time
Playmemories app doesnt stay at background, so.. whenever you mininised the app, you need to re connect the camera with the app once again. Maybe rooting the phone can solve this?
Does not support led flash on z1
When attaching it with z1's exclusive case and take picture with z1's camera, it blocks the view..
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Same situation here...i hope sony can fix it
XperiaZ (running 4.4) and QX100 unusable
fer2503 said:
Same situation here...i hope sony can fix it
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Using my XperiaZ running Android 4.2 , taking photo's with QX100 and Play Memories was slow
but bearable. Since 4.3 and now 4.4, it has become unusable. The latest firmware on QX100 improved
only slightly. Any screen touch takes 15 seconds to respond. So photo's can only be made using the
button on the QX100. However, without setting the focus witch requires a screen touch. And without
transferring photo's to the phone (new handy option introduced with the latest firmware and
PlayMemories App), saving 30 seconds each time.
With any other android phone I tried the QX100 (specifically Play Memories) works reasonable
but slow. With all other cons mentioned before. But Sony's Xperia Z is unusably slow. Clearly I'm
very disappointed.
Using a QX10 together with my Z1. Very happy with it. Connection takes around 6 seconds and picture transfer around 2 seconds. (Transferring 2mp photos only). Full res photos get saved to the QX10s sd card and can be retrieved manually anytime.
Looking to purchase the QX100 next. And the Z1 case attachment but its very expensive right now.
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Using a QX10 together with my Z1. Very happy with it. Connection takes around 6 seconds and picture transfer around 2 seconds. (Transferring 2mp photos only). Full res photos get saved to the QX10s sd card and can be retrieved manually anytime.
Looking to purchase the QX100 next. And the Z1 case attachment but its very expensive right now.
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Glad you are happy with your QX10. :good:
Look here before you decide to purchase the Z1 case attachment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727045
dragion said:
Glad you are happy with your QX10. :good:
Look here before you decide to purchase the Z1 case attachment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727045
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Thanks for that. Will definitely not buy that case.
I got my hands on a qx100 now. Wow the difference in picture quality vs the qx10 is amazing!
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bimmerboii said:
Thanks for that. Will definitely not buy that case.
I got my hands on a qx100 now. Wow the difference in picture quality vs the qx10 is amazing!
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The quality of the pictures indeed is very good.
Which Android version are you running?
pheppy said:
The quality of the pictures indeed is very good.
Which Android version are you running?
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Official 4.4.2 for my z1. Also updated the both my QX10 and QX100 firmware to v3.
Both cameras work great with my Note 10.1 2014 tablet as well
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Official 4.4.2 for my z1. Also updated the both my QX10 and QX100 firmware to v3.
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I've updated my QX100 firmware to v3. So strange that 4.4.2 for Xperia Z is not working.
Any one better results running 4.4.2 on Xperia Z?
pheppy said:
I've updated my QX100 firmware to v3. So strange that 4.4.2 for Xperia Z is not working.
Any one better results running 4.4.2 on Xperia Z?
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I've re-installed 4.4.2 on XperiaZ from scratch using sony's companion software. Now the QX100 (and play memories App) are working reasonably slow. I can take pictures again. I do hope sony can fix the "screen-off camera connection gone" problem for play memories. Restarting takes so much time.
I am happy with my QX10 where it is small and compact, guess most pros and cons are the same.
Just want to share my exp. I bring QX10 to oversea trips and surprise many. Had take selfie with a camera pole attached to it and can position myself better and take nice selfie. Took a few video and the quality is very good. I even took a video of fire work with it and many say its very nice I am happy to get QX10.

[Q] Z1 ROM to Z1 compact?

I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?
AndroidInsanity said:
I am sure I saw someone mention kind of patch to use a z1 ROM on a Z1C without issues. however I can't find it anywhere, so if it actually does exist can someone please provide the link?
And is it a simple process?
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I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.
That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).
TheEndHK said:
I can find it easily in dev section...... you said you got M8 and now got Z1c? :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Remember this method only works for Monx and RomAur,some other roms may also work but you have to modify the rom to make it works on z1c. Only Monx and Romaur is easy method but Monx is still on 4.4.2 now and only Romaur got 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
I've tested it works on z1c perfectly but I don't know which recovery compatible with it. I was using it without recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/son.../cwm-recovery-kernel-deactivated-ric-t2814708
Someone told this recovery might work but no one knows, I will test it later when I have more free time.
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Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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Iruwen said:
That was me, I also didn't have enough time to test this yet. There's not much that could go wrong though, since the kernel can easily be replaced anytime it should be sufficient to reflash it from the already downloaded FTF (like step 9 in the instructions you wrote). Anyway, I'm gonna try that tonight (if it keeps raining here :laugh: ).
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Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.
AndroidInsanity said:
Thank you! And yeah I needed to get rid of my M8 due to money problems loving the z1C. Just underwhelmed by the camera.
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I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
TheEndHK said:
Actually the answer can be no, that's why I asked for a workable recovery. I was stuck on Sony logo and even step9 doesn't fix it, I was wiped the whole phone and finally made it return to normal. Dualrecovery should also flashed somethings in the rom, not only flashed the recovery partiton and not compatible with Romaur v9.1.
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I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.
TheEndHK said:
I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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TheEndHK said:
I'm also coming from HTC and the focus better than z1c on average. The problem on z1c is focus and made photo slightly not clear and sharp as expected. When it can focus, the 20M 1/2.3" sensor quality is decent and outperformed HTC but it is unreliable so I back to use HTC takes photo though the details isn't decent but I think a stable camera is more important.
I got z1c mainly for the 4k recording because I'm a video lover. So, I can just ignore the problem but majority of people used it as a photo camera, they may don't think this is good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
Just make sure you updated to 4.4.4 and flash this mode v7 8M mode(20M is buggy) and you are good. The focus and image quality is improved and more acceptable now. Sony said they will rewrite the camera software and big improvement is coming but it will out with Android L and still a long time for us to wait for.
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By the way. What's the difference. Between 8mp version and modded resolutions version??
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AndroidInsanity said:
Thanks. Have you got the link/source when Sony actually said that cause if that's the case I'll hold on to the z1c for longer
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http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.
TheEndHK said:
http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
That is a rumor news, no official. But I do believe it because there is not much surprise on z3/z3c, I wonder without the software revolution what's left on the new phones?
I don't actually think Sony will release it for z1/z1c/z2 but since we are all still using the same camera module, that mean we can port it but only after when we received Android L updates and xposed released ART ver because Android L will remove dalvik mode and xposed currently no ART.
We should receive Android L at Q1 2015 if L no late and it will also take some time to do porting. So, at the end it is a long waiting time. Personally, I have a high chance to just stick with z1c on 2015 because I don't real want to spend too much again on Sony and z3c is quite big in my opinion. evleak said 4.5" but from the leaked picture the size more believable at around 4.55" - 4.6". I give the chance for Sony this year and if I want to upgrade I would like to try Iphone, Samsung or go back HTC next time.
SA(auto scene modes) will only work with 8M originally and that mod made it also works on 20MP but high burst mode should no longer working correctly and 20MP SA also got bad focus. It's just not good to use 20MP SA mod.
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Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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AndroidInsanity said:
Great explanation! Thank you. I am using the modded z2 camera but it freezes sometimes and loading times are slow. And it shows black screen 50% of time
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Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.
TheEndHK said:
Do you mean the v7 8M? It does got little freeze and slow loading but the problem should not be that big.
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No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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AndroidInsanity said:
No idea as the one I am using is implemented into a ROM (kitkatslim I think the ROM is called)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54316700&postcount=657
They are different mods from different devs. If you are on kitkatslim evo8.0/8.1, you can flash this patch to return to stock then flash the v7 8MP mode. Remember to clean all settings related with camera every time before you flash mod.
But I may forced back 4.4.2 my Sony SmartWatch2 doesn't seems working good with 4.4.4, some of my sw2 apps not yet updated to fully working under 4.4.4. I'll need to do some more testing to confirm it. And I think the 4k recording quality dropped very slightly in v7 because it used more of libs from z1c stock 4.4.4 and affected the 4k quality this is my guess. We will need to wait for z2 4.4.4 release to real fix all problem.
Iruwen said:
I was refering to the kernel with recovery, not dual recovery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54330224&postcount=83
Good news! I finally have time to test it and confirm it to be successful and I've updated my guide now.
I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.
Iruwen said:
I just flashed the rom and the kernel and it works for me as well, cool :good: And thanks for your guide.
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Is recovery still working?
Yep.

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