I'm a AT&T subscriber however I want a unlocked device since I travel to other countries. I've looked into LG G3 D855 (European version) unlocked but many people report that although it shows the frequencies used by AT&T, still it doesn't allow 4G LTE on any US carrier.
I do not want to buy LG G3 D850(AT&T version) since i won't be able to use it back home. I'm not sure what the LG G3 F400 version is.
Please help this is really confusing, I've tried contacting both LG and AT&T but they don't seem to have much information on this.
Thank you!
SnowTauren said:
I'm a AT&T subscriber however I want a unlocked device since I travel to other countries. I've looked into LG G3 D855 (European version) unlocked but many people report that although it shows the frequencies used by AT&T, still it doesn't allow 4G LTE on any US carrier.
I do not want to buy LG G3 D850(AT&T version) since i won't be able to use it back home. I'm not sure what the LG G3 F400 version is.
Please help this is really confusing, I've tried contacting both LG and AT&T but they don't seem to have much information on this.
Thank you!
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You said you are an At&t subscriber but you don't want At&t's version since you won't be able to use it back home?
Where do you live exactly? Kind of confused.
xryousukex said:
You said you are an At&t subscriber but you don't want At&t's version since you won't be able to use it back home?
Where do you live exactly? Kind of confused.
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I'm sorry for not clarifying properly, I live in US but my hometown is in Pakistan. I want a device that can work in my hometown and also work with att with 4g lte while i'm in US.
SnowTauren said:
I'm sorry for not clarifying properly, I live in US but my hometown is in Pakistan. I want a device that can work in my hometown and also work with att with 4g lte while i'm in US.
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It seems like Pakistan uses 1800mhz for the LTE. In terms of At&t and Europeans G3, they don't have the same LTE bands.
At&t does NOT use 1800 only the European one has it.
So since Pakistan uses the same bands as the Europe, then you'll have to pick which between having LTE in the U.S. or LTE in Pakistan.
Both phones will work for 3g though.
Hope that helps!
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It seems like Pakistan uses 1800mhz for the LTE. In terms of At&t and Europeans G3, they don't have the same LTE bands.
At&t does NOT use 1800 only the European one has it.
So since Pakistan uses the same bands as the Europe, then you'll have to pick which between having LTE in the U.S. or LTE in Pakistan.
Both phones will work for 3g though.
Hope that helps!
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I'm not concerned about LTE in Pakistan since as of now Pakistan doesn't have LTE networks setup . Also LTE in US is important for me. In Pakistan I only want to be able to use my phone i.e call/text.
I have two more questions:
1. Would I be able to use an AT&T device with Pakistani/European carriers without unlocking it, if I buy them without contract.
2. Can I use the korean G3 (f400) for ATT LTE? I've read it somewhere that some people have got it working but I want to be sure.
SnowTauren said:
I'm not concerned about LTE in Pakistan since as of now Pakistan doesn't have LTE networks setup . Also LTE in US is important for me. In Pakistan I only want to be able to use my phone i.e call/text.
I have two more questions:
1. Would I be able to use an AT&T device with Pakistani/European carriers without unlocking it, if I buy them without contract.
2. Can I use the korean G3 (f400) for ATT LTE? I've read it somewhere that some people have got it working but I want to be sure.
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Since you not concerned with LTE in Pakistan, that makes it a little easier.
1. You can buy an At&t phone and get it unlocked. If you buy it outright (full cost), at&t might provide you with the unlock code, I'm not positive about that.
If you are still on a contracted type plan and you buy it subsidized with a 2 year contract then you can also just buy an unlock code for $3 and get it unlocked. I'm not affiliated with this website but I have seen others use it (www(dot)gsmzambia(dot)com/) and has success. I personally used cellunlocker and it took 24 hours to get my code and was about $8. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780536&page=2)
2. Yes you can use a Korean G3 as it has the correct LTE bands and will works for At&t LTE.
This is only if you're interested in Roms/Modding/Qi Wireless charging
If you plan on buying your phone outright from at&t, I would highly recommend getting a t-mobile phone if you like to flash roms, use QI wireless charging. T-mobile has their bootloader unlocked so its more rom friendly. Also it uses the Qi-wireless standard vs PMA which is much more widely used than At&t's PMA (powermat)
T-mobiles phone works for At&t and has all the bands except for band 5 which at&t isn't using.
See more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/help/t-mobile-lg-g3-att-t2815009
I second the f400 let working on att. I had one and it worked great.
dee32181 said:
I second the f400 let working on att. I had one and it worked great.
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Was everything hassle-free, like making calls, or getting good signals?
I've searched on amazon and this is what I found:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-LG-F400-Me...8&qid=1407384558&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g3+korean
It says 4G won't work in US.
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Since you not concerned with LTE in Pakistan, that makes it a little easier.
1. You can buy an At&t phone and get it unlocked. If you buy it outright (full cost), at&t might provide you with the unlock code, I'm not positive about that.
If you are still on a contracted type plan and you buy it subsidized with a 2 year contract then you can also just buy an unlock code for $3 and get it unlocked. I'm not affiliated with this website but I have seen others use it (www(dot)gsmzambia(dot)com/) and has success. I personally used cellunlocker and it took 24 hours to get my code and was about $8. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780536&page=2)
2. Yes you can use a Korean G3 as it has the correct LTE bands and will works for At&t LTE.
This is only if you're interested in Roms/Modding/Qi Wireless charging
If you plan on buying your phone outright from at&t, I would highly recommend getting a t-mobile phone if you like to flash roms, use QI wireless charging. T-mobile has their bootloader unlocked so its more rom friendly. Also it uses the Qi-wireless standard vs PMA which is much more widely used than At&t's PMA (powermat)
T-mobiles phone works for At&t and has all the bands except for band 5 which at&t isn't using.
See more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/help/t-mobile-lg-g3-att-t2815009
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If i buy tmobile or the international version, would i still get their software updates, if yes then how?
Yes it was lte compatible and I never had any performance problems. I got lte everywhere I would normally get lte. With my att phones
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Was everything hassle-free, like making calls, or getting good signals?
I've searched on amazon and this is what I found:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-LG-F400-Me...8&qid=1407384558&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g3+korean
It says 4G won't work in US.
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It does get full lte signal on att everywhere I would get lte from my att phones. TMobile won't get lte.
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Yes it was lte compatible and I never had any performance problems. I got lte everywhere I would normally get lte. With my att phones
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It does get full lte signal on att everywhere I would get lte from my att phones. TMobile won't get lte.
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What about the bloatware and the Korean language. I really hate bloatware!
Also please can you link me the site where you bought it from and also check the F400 version on amazon and let me know if that is the correct one.
Thank you!!!
SnowTauren said:
What about the bloatware and the Korean language. I really hate bloatware!
Also please can you link me the site where you bought it from and also check the F400 version on amazon and let me know if that is the correct one.
Thank you!!!
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90% of the bloatware is uninstallable. The Korean language on the dialer, and in the theming app is what made me get rid of it for the att version. I also didn't like how it handled USA phone numbers via text messages. It always sent and received duplicate text messages
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Yes it was lte compatible and I never had any performance problems. I got lte everywhere I would normally get lte. With my att phones
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It does get full lte signal on att everywhere I would get lte from my att phones. TMobile won't get lte.
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Tmobile will get att's LTE. I have a tmobile phone using it on att right now
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Tmobile will get att's LTE. I have a tmobile phone using it on att right now
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I am not talking about a tmobile phone on att. I am talking about the signal that the f400 (Korean model) would get on att and tmobile. You need to 're read my previous comments
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SnowTauren said:
What about the bloatware and the Korean language. I really hate bloatware!
Also please can you link me the site where you bought it from and also check the F400 version on amazon and let me know if that is the correct one.
Thank you!!!
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I bought my from Amazon. The unlocked model for sale there is the f400
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I had the f400k model
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I am not talking about a tmobile phone on att. I am talking about the signal that the f400 (Korean model) would get on att and tmobile. You need to 're read my previous comments
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I bought my from Amazon. The unlocked model for sale there is the f400
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I had the f400k model
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I bought the ATT version and I love it so far! However my only issue is the charging time on this beast. It takes a lot of time to charge, especially if I'm gaming on the device while it charges.
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I'm getting sickband tired of all these us delays for the phone. At this point I'm thinking of just purchasing the UK phone and importing it to the US. Is the UK version same as the unlocked phone I would buy here in the states eventually? I have tmobile and as far as I know all unlocked nexus phone are same? Is that true? Also, where can I buy online in UK that will ship to the US?
Nvm wrong forum.
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1) yes it will work.
2) read every other thread in this forum for information on pre-ordering if you choose to do so.
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No, different bands, but it'll work att. I mean it'll work but not 4g, 2g will work fine.
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This is false. It will work on T-mobile 3G, AT&T 3G, and most other GSM networks in the world.
what about hpsa+. Aren't they the same too?
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what about hpsa+. Aren't they the same too?
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They are the same. The phone is pentaband HSPA+. It'll get HSPA+ anywhere its available pretty much.
So to be clarify, the UK phone is basically same as unlocked nexus here and everything will work like 3g and 4g/hpsa+ here as well. What about updates. When Google pushes ota updates, will I get those same time as everyone else in states.
wasya152 said:
So to be clarify, the UK phone is basically same as unlocked nexus here and everything will work like 3g and 4g/hpsa+ here as well. What about updates. When Google pushes ota updates, will I get those same time as everyone else in states.
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The UK Galaxy Nexus is the unlocked Galaxy Nexus. There is no "UK" version. Its just being sold in the UK.
Everything will work juuuust fine. Just put your SIM in it.
Ok problem is, looks like there is some sort of delay there too
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BiGMERF said:
Ok problem is, looks like there is some sort of delay there too
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Mmmm... no. Downright confirmed to be sold on the 17th in the UK at most carriers and retailers (as of earlier today).
One nexus for all frequencies?
So, just to get a clear answer, will there only be one Galaxy Nexus to cover all GSM carriers, even for 3G?
I remember buying my Nexus One (which I'm still using) and I had to be careful to buy the correct variant so that I could use it back in Europe... only the T-Mobile variant would work.
My colleagues who have relocated to California have a few Android devices, including a couple of Nexus S, but since they purchased them in Europe they can't get 3G since the European Nexus S doesn't have AT&T's 3G frequencies, it would only work on T-mobile US.
I'm from Europe (but travelling for a couple of weeks in the US), so I was hoping to buy a couple of them to take home for myself and my girlfriend, but I don't see any sign of it being released for T-Mobile US, so I guess I'm going to have to fork out the outrageous money for one when I get home to the UK... £519 (= $820)
dsample said:
So, just to get a clear answer, will there only be one Galaxy Nexus to cover all GSM carriers, even for 3G?
I remember buying my Nexus One (which I'm still using) and I had to be careful to buy the correct variant so that I could use it back in Europe... only the T-Mobile variant would work.
My colleagues who have relocated to California have a few Android devices, including a couple of Nexus S, but since they purchased them in Europe they can't get 3G since the European Nexus S doesn't have AT&T's 3G frequencies, it would only work on T-mobile US.
I'm from Europe (but travelling for a couple of weeks in the US), so I was hoping to buy a couple of them to take home for myself and my girlfriend, but I don't see any sign of it being released for T-Mobile US, so I guess I'm going to have to fork out the outrageous money for one when I get home to the UK... £519 (= $820)
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The Nexus One and Nexus S were quadband, meaning that they only worked on the specific carrier frequencies they were designed for. For that reason there were specific T-mobile US versions because T-mo uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for 3G rather than the 1900 standard many other carriers in the world use.
The Galaxy Nexus is pentaband HSPA+, meaning that there is one model that will work everywhere in the world. Yes even on 3G (or "4G" if the carrier calls HSPA+ that). You'll be able to buy the unlocked Galaxy Nexus in the UK and use it in the US on any of the GSM carriers here (AT&T, T-mo, Simple, regionals).
[Q] No sim...sim..Which nexus do i need for t-mobile?
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
STi489 said:
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
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no sim just means that its not provided with a contract or a sim card for a carrier, instead its just the phone unlocked full price that you use with any carrier.
as for what you need just check the bands that the carrier use vs what the phone has the galaxy nexus is pentaband tho so it will most likely work with pretty much all carriers globally
STi489 said:
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
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"no SIM" just means it is contract/service free. You want that. It's just the phone, no strings.
noobdeagle said:
as for what you need just check the bands that the carrier use vs what the phone has the galaxy nexus is pentaband tho so it will most likely work with pretty much all carriers globally
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The pentaband HSPA+ version will work just fine on T-mobile.
[Q] Which UK company will US Tmo users buy from?
What is the best UK company we, T-Mobile US users, can order a HSDPA+ 3g Nexus Galaxy?
Preferably with no taxes and shipping to US.
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the Non LTE version should work just fine
just make sure it has 1700/2100 bands in it
AllGamer said:
the Non LTE version should work just fine
just make sure it has 1700/2100 bands in it
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Seems like he's asking for a specific site or company to buy the phone from. I'm interested too.
martonikaj said:
"no SIM" just means it is contract/service free. You want that. It's just the phone, no strings.
The pentaband HSPA+ version will work just fine on T-mobile.
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I've been reading the last few comments and decided to speak up. First I want to say thank you, even though I didn't ask the questions myself, but the questions asked I had myself.
Now, I am a Sprint customer. Clearly no sign of this coming to us anytime soon if at all. I have a Nexus S 4G and I am aware it'll get the update soon enough, but I am wanting the Galaxy Nexus so bad that I am considering ordering the one released in the UK. Now I noticed the "sim free" or "no sim" means it is contract free. I assume I have to at least have some type of service with Magenta to even use it if I order it right? Also, let's say I already was a T-Mobile customer and I had a UK released Galaxy Nexus ported here in the US which comes SIM free, all I would have to do is put my SIM from my previous android phone (whatever that would be) inside the Galaxy Nexus and it would get service right? The phone itself would still be off contract right? The SIM is just for service so I can actually use it as a phone. And it all comes down to the consumers data plans, etc on how they can use it right?
I hope I wasn't confusing.
Thanks in advanced.
martonikaj said:
Mmmm... no. Downright confirmed to be sold on the 17th in the UK at most carriers and retailers (as of earlier today).
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Yes, available with carriers today.
If you want a SIM-free handset (which by the looks of it, the OP does) then you will have to wait until next week at the earliest since the SIM-free stock has been delayed.
does anyone know where I can purchase the unlocked version so I can get it shipped to US asap
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
kwazytazz said:
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
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The Sprint version will not receive the t mo data bands.
Why would the Verizon work with T-Mobile then?
Aoe316 said:
Why would the Verizon work with T-Mobile then?
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All Verizon devices are unlocked, Verizon works on both GSM and CDMA (Sprint is CDMA only, T-Mobile GSM only)
erik077 said:
All Verizon devices are unlocked, Verizon works on both GSM and CDMA (Sprint is CDMA only, T-Mobile GSM only)
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So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
shethpp said:
So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
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TMobile (GSM) and Sprint (CDMA) are not even same networks so NO. Most of the phones are locked to one network anyway, but those two have nothing in common
erik077 said:
TMobile (GSM) and Sprint (CDMA) are not even same networks so NO. Most of the phones are locked to one network anyway, but those two have nothing in common
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incorrect information my friend. PLease search xda because thier are several phones from sprint that have worked on tmobile and att. The sprint variant has a international lock a nd a domestic lock. Once they are cracked, then yes, you can use your phone on att or tmobile.. Sprint uses cdma mainly for 3g and voice, and use a sim, yes a sim card for lte. You can call sprint and have them unlock the phone for INTERNATIONAL use only within thier guidelines. So far the note 2 note 3 s3 and s4 have been avaible to use with modification to get onto att and tmbolies networks.
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shethpp said:
So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
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yes but the device has to be unlocked via domestic and internationally. We are working on a domestic unlock...
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kwazytazz said:
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
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yes, it displays "invalid sim"
You forgot to say "some late phones" because only those from Sprint have SIM card
erik077 said:
You forgot to say "some late phones" because only those from Sprint have SIM card
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weren't there some Sprint Samsung phones with no SIM slot, but people modded one in and used them on ATT/TMo?
yeah, still some, but just sayin'...
faceless said:
weren't there some Sprint Samsung phones with no SIM slot, but people modded one in and used them on ATT/TMo?
yeah, still some, but just sayin'...
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Yeah the sprint note 2 was one of them!
kwazytazz said:
Yeah the sprint note 2 was one of them!
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no, older phones had "sim" cards as well. Touch pro 2 was one of them. So before the samsung devices, the htc international devices were able to as well...
About20ninj45 said:
no, older phones had "sim" cards as well. Touch pro 2 was one of them. So before the samsung devices, the htc international devices were able to as well...
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Yeah I remember the touch pro 2 having a sim card slot.
The slide out keyboard, tilting screen, running Windows mobile AND Android Froyo! Those were the days, here is the link for the sim unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555339
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so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
Does the galaxytools unlock work on the Note 4? It says my phone is unlocked but I don't have a sim card to test it out.
jamice4u said:
Does the galaxytools unlock work on the Note 4? It says my phone is unlocked but I don't have a sim card to test it out.
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Unlocked for international travel not for domestic. Hopefully a dev will figure out how to unlock the GN4 for use on other carriers in the US.
'invalid SIM'
weapon007 said:
so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
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Based upon my personal experience, even when the phone is UICC unlocked, it is still locked for domestic use. I unlocked my Note 4 via international at Sprint, but the phone says 'Invalid SIM' when using T-Mobile SIM.
I was able to get an Sprint HTC M7 to work on T-Mobile using just the international unlock method.
Good news though, Sprint will be making most phones unlockable for domestic use by Feb 11th (at least phones made thereafter)... so this means that even if the Note 4 doesn't get some kind of firmware update to allow domestic use, the S6 will and I'm sure somebody will port over the capability.
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so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
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I would like to know as well.
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the790 said:
Based upon my personal experience, even when the phone is UICC unlocked, it is still locked for domestic use. I unlocked my Note 4 via international at Sprint, but the phone says 'Invalid SIM' when using T-Mobile SIM.
I was able to get an Sprint HTC M7 to work on T-Mobile using just the international unlock method.
Good news though, Sprint will be making most phones unlockable for domestic use by Feb 11th (at least phones made thereafter)... so this means that even if the Note 4 doesn't get some kind of firmware update to allow domestic use, the S6 will and I'm sure somebody will port over the capability.
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Now that it's past Feb 11, we should be able to do a domestic unlock and it should work with Tmobile LTE & voice?
Neo3D said:
Now that it's past Feb 11, we should be able to do a domestic unlock and it should work with Tmobile LTE & voice?
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As specified by Sprint, all phones released before Feb 11th 'will not be DSU(Domestic SIM Unlock) capable'. This means a dev will have to figure out a way to port the S6 modem to the Note 4 and we'll possibly be able to get DSU for the Note 4 that way. (Or at least, that is my understanding of it) Only time will tell at this point.
Use root tools it unlocks the sim I'm using it with at&t now
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
n1234d said:
All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yes, I will talk to him about 32GB UK model & 1800Mhz LTE band issues.
Here's the seller link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-4615635472.37.CvSgdM&id=41040381216
Let me know what you think of the seller? There are many such sellers selling M8 around that price difference is minor 40-50 RMB & GIFTS
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US. View attachment 3076060
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Can't see the first two images
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See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Yes, You're right MID should be 0P6B100
Here's the M8 MID Info http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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MID 0P6B160 belongs to Telus/Rogers [CA] Here we are looking for MID 0P6B100 32GB variant
Now what do you have to say? Did HTC just released 32GB UK Unlocked version?
xunholyx said:
Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
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Yes, European variant supports 4G - LTE:800/900/1800/2600 MHz
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We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Now I would definitely ask HTC UK customer support. You're based in UK so I am sure you know better than the others.
Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
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Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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Only if we can unlock it
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
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Only if we can unlock it
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Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
Itaintrite said:
Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
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Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
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Is that a typo verks? Did you get it unlocked?
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Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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So you used a friend's sim card for 2 days? Did you fully just let them use your phone for 2 days? If I can, I'd rather go this is route than wait another 32 days..
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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That's the thing. you have had tmobile for a while so unlocking it isnt an issue. that app checks how long your line has been active. i just activated mine to get the phone. sucks. i may end up switching to tmobile anyways. still deciding..
I want to buy a T-mobile s6 off craigslist (for $600 rather than $670+tax from T-mobile or $700 tonight only for an international version), but these posts are getting me scared. I also have no intention of starting up service with T-mobile. If I find a friend (or a seller) who is a loyal T-mobile customer, would I be able to unlock it in a timely fashion? Also, what specifically would the process be?
It will work on AT&T but the T-Mobile variant has fewer bands available.
The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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Any idea if those missing bands are important or not?
I'd can't say that they are not important, but they do not account for the bulk of what you'll generally use. My understanding is they are going to be used in future high traffic areas, but my knowledge is pretty limited.
I can tell you that I have no LTE issues with my T-Mobile Note 4 which pulls generally the same speeds as my AT&T S6 edge side by side.
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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See attachments for bands supported by both AT&T and T-Mobile variants. If you're asking if both variant support VoLTE, they do.
The AT&T variant appears to covers all T-Mobile LTE bands but does not seem to cover the 1700 band.
Check threads on previous AT&T Galaxy models on T-Mobile.
I wish I could give you better clarity on using an AT&T device on T-Mobiles network, but I just haven't done it. I've only done it the other way around. I can tell you that I have done this for several generations of Galaxy releases and the results in performance has only been subpar on one occasion. I think that was the Note 2 or Note 3. I don't remember which one right now, but the data was just a little slower at times. This isn't what you're trying to do anyways.
I hope that help a little.
Because I hate the idea of having a neutered AT&T Note 5, I bought an international variant (N920i). It appears the LTE bands are all compatible between the two. I will let everyone know how it turns out. If you already have experience with this, let me know.
EDIT: Yes, N920i works without any modification on AT&T
When does it arrive?
Thats very interesting.
from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using XDA Free mobile app
First half of this week hopefully!
Please keep us posted.
@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.
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@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.
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Will do. Should be in my hands tomorrow.
Here goes. N920i 64GB
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LTE Working with attnextgenphone APN. Made a few phone calls, received one, and so far no odd problems.
I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?
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I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?
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LTE showing up on the signal bar is a Domestic device visual. International versions Show E (edge) 3G, H+ (Faux G) and 4G for LTE.
If you are still unconvinced, my service mode presently shows I am on LTE Band 4. Download speeds at 40mbps this evening. No carrier aggregation unfortunately, but I also didn't have it on my Nexus 6 or the GS6.
I purchased the phone from a seller in Hong Kong via Ebay.
Awesome! Enjoy!
Yep, just like the International S6 G920I that supported AT&T LTE
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This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.
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This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.
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~$900 USD. OEM Unlock is an available option in Developer Options.
I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.
Diraan said:
I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.
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My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.
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My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I think I'll put in an order right now.
Samsung Pay
I'm glad to hear that the N920I works on AT&T on the LTE band. I considered getting the International version. However, there is something else that I am concerned about...and that is Samsung Pay that will be coming late September. I believe carriers have to allow (or configure) Samsung Pay to work. For example, Verizon may not be supporting it, at least that's what's traveling around the net. Also when I had the International Galaxy S3 on AT&T, Google Wallet didn't work, it only worked on AT&T versions at that time. Unfortunately, we won't know until Samsung Pay is available, but I wonder if it will work on the N920I?
Awesome news. can you please tell me if VOLTE works on AT&T or if you even had the option for HD calling? Settings should be found under data options.
Thanks in advance.
For those wondering, if you use an N920I on AT&T, there are a few things you should know.
1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
E - This means you have a 2G/EDGE connection
3G - This means you have a UMTS connection with no HSPA
H+ - This means you have an HSPA+/Faux 4G connection
4G - This means you have an LTE connection
2. Phone calls will not work over LTE (VoLTE), and, by extension, HD Voice doesn't work either. The VoLTE and HD Voice components are proprietary software that is only built into the AT&T-specific ROM on the SM-N920A.
3. The phone DOES support carrier aggregation (otherwise known as LTE-Advanced), but not on AT&T's bands. Considering that the SM-N920I is intended for retail in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore, the baseband firmware is tweaked to do carrier aggregation on band pairs that are common among carriers in that part of the world.
So, what does this all mean? If you want a phone that has support for all the bleeding-edge technologies on AT&T's network (VoLTE, HD Voice, LTE-A), then you have no other choice but to buy an AT&T-branded SM-N920A. However, if you want faster updates, no carrier bloat, no carrier branding, an unlockable bootloader, and don't mind sacrificing the whiz-bang stuff on the network side of things, then an SM-N920I will work just fine. Put your SIM card in, you'll get LTE data on all of AT&T's available bands, and you'll be able to make and receive calls over the HSPA+ network. You're just not going to have all the latest carrier-marketed bells and whistles that you'd get if you bought a proper AT&T-branded SM-N920A.
At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.
oldblue910 said:
1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
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Translation: On the 920i/c, the signal indicators follow the international standard of "4G" being "LTE", and not the AT&T/TMO marketing fiction of "4G" being what everyone else calls "3.5G".
As for the rest of your points, I have to wonder how well deployed VoLTE is on AT&T (and I don't think AT&T has even started LTE-A yet, have they?)
I live in a somewhat rural area, and I'm just thrilled I have LTE.. which beats the "no signal" I get with other carriers. I don't know that I've ever experienced VoLTE. (Then again, I can't remember the last time I actually had a voice conversation with my phone.)
oldblue910 said:
At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.
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Oh, but why not?! We really need some more activity in the AT&T Note5 section.