Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
scooby-snack said:
Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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Only if we can unlock it
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
mehdi_s82 said:
Only if we can unlock it
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Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
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Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
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Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
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Is that a typo verks? Did you get it unlocked?
Goronok said:
Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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So you used a friend's sim card for 2 days? Did you fully just let them use your phone for 2 days? If I can, I'd rather go this is route than wait another 32 days..
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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That's the thing. you have had tmobile for a while so unlocking it isnt an issue. that app checks how long your line has been active. i just activated mine to get the phone. sucks. i may end up switching to tmobile anyways. still deciding..
I want to buy a T-mobile s6 off craigslist (for $600 rather than $670+tax from T-mobile or $700 tonight only for an international version), but these posts are getting me scared. I also have no intention of starting up service with T-mobile. If I find a friend (or a seller) who is a loyal T-mobile customer, would I be able to unlock it in a timely fashion? Also, what specifically would the process be?
It will work on AT&T but the T-Mobile variant has fewer bands available.
The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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Any idea if those missing bands are important or not?
I'd can't say that they are not important, but they do not account for the bulk of what you'll generally use. My understanding is they are going to be used in future high traffic areas, but my knowledge is pretty limited.
I can tell you that I have no LTE issues with my T-Mobile Note 4 which pulls generally the same speeds as my AT&T S6 edge side by side.
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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See attachments for bands supported by both AT&T and T-Mobile variants. If you're asking if both variant support VoLTE, they do.
The AT&T variant appears to covers all T-Mobile LTE bands but does not seem to cover the 1700 band.
Check threads on previous AT&T Galaxy models on T-Mobile.
I wish I could give you better clarity on using an AT&T device on T-Mobiles network, but I just haven't done it. I've only done it the other way around. I can tell you that I have done this for several generations of Galaxy releases and the results in performance has only been subpar on one occasion. I think that was the Note 2 or Note 3. I don't remember which one right now, but the data was just a little slower at times. This isn't what you're trying to do anyways.
I hope that help a little.
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Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
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Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
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From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
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From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
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But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
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But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
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If you live in an area where T-mobile is switching over their 1900mhz frequency T-mobile might be faster. If not ATT will probably be faster.
Here is a map of T-mobile progress.
http://www.airportal.de/#
Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
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Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
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Assuming that the hardware for the TMO and ATT versions are different, will there likely be a substantially different price for the unlocked versions of these phones?
I recently upgraded to the iPhone 5 on AT&T and am not happy with the small screen size after coming from a GNex. Thinking about getting a GN2, like the phablet idea since I really don't talk much on my cell. I know I can wait until next week to get the 4G LTE AT&T version at full price($649) or I could buy the unlocked international version without LTE. I don't live in an area that has LTE or will get LTE soon. What do you guys think about my buying the GN2 from Tmobile at their no-contract price($649), unlocking via ebay to use on AT&T? This way seems easier to return in case I change my mind(considering the Nexus 4 and 10 for the same price) than buying online, plus the resale should be better right? Will the TMobile version work with AT&T LTE(if I move in the future)?
Thanks
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I recently upgraded to the iPhone 5 on AT&T and am not happy with the small screen size after coming from a GNex. Thinking about getting a GN2, like the phablet idea since I really don't talk much on my cell. I know I can wait until next week to get the 4G LTE AT&T version at full price($649) or I could buy the unlocked international version without LTE. I don't live in an area that has LTE or will get LTE soon. What do you guys think about my buying the GN2 from Tmobile at their no-contract price($649), unlocking via ebay to use on AT&T? This way seems easier to return in case I change my mind(considering the Nexus 4 and 10 for the same price) than buying online, plus the resale should be better right? Will the TMobile version work with AT&T LTE(if I move in the future)?
Thanks
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It wont work with LTE since it doesn't have that band. If you intend to use AT&T I would just wait it out honestly.
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wait it out, get the AT&T version, U will want LTE when it comes to your city and AT&T is expanding quite often
Actually the T-Mobile Note II does support LTE on the 1700/2100 bands. It's just not enabled right now. I agree with the others, wait out the AT&T verson.
...and I can't get the LTE to work on my unlocked TMOB
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I recently upgraded to the iPhone 5 on AT&T and am not happy with the small screen size after coming from a GNex. Thinking about getting a GN2, like the phablet idea since I really don't talk much on my cell. I know I can wait until next week to get the 4G LTE AT&T version at full price($649) or I could buy the unlocked international version without LTE. I don't live in an area that has LTE or will get LTE soon. What do you guys think about my buying the GN2 from Tmobile at their no-contract price($649), unlocking via ebay to use on AT&T? This way seems easier to return in case I change my mind(considering the Nexus 4 and 10 for the same price) than buying online, plus the resale should be better right? Will the TMobile version work with AT&T LTE(if I move in the future)?
Thanks
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So, wait... You're planning to spend $650 on the AT&T Note 2, and you don't have LTE in your area, nor is it planned any time soon? If LTE isn't an issue for you, and you're in a position where you're going to be forced to pay full price anyway, why not just buy the international unlocked N7100 instead? It's available for less than $650 now if you shop around, and on top of that, you'll benefit from better development support, and you won't be missing features.
i'm having this same problem!!!! i have a 2 year plan with ATT. i don't get LTE in my area, should i just buy the unlocked n7100 right now off amazon? how do i activate it with ATT? idk wtf to do! i'm worried i'll get real slow data on it in my area
It's being released this week. Just wait. At least that way you'll have the AT&T LTE bands available if needed. You can always unlock the AT&T GN2.
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So, wait... You're planning to spend $650 on the AT&T Note 2, and you don't have LTE in your area, nor is it planned any time soon? If LTE isn't an issue for you, and you're in a position where you're going to be forced to pay full price anyway, why not just buy the international unlocked N7100 instead? It's available for less than $650 now if you shop around, and on top of that, you'll benefit from better development support, and you won't be missing features.
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I went ahead and purchased the N7100 from Newegg for $589. Thanks
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I went ahead and purchased the N7100 from Newegg for $589. Thanks
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umm...where do you see that? I see its 679 for the note 2 and 649 for the note 1....
What is the model number of Note 2 that will have ATT LTE bands?
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umm...where do you see that? I see its 679 for the note 2 and 649 for the note 1....
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There was a coupon code that's now expired
There are many T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2's on craigslist in my area for around $500. Does anyone know if these will work on AT&T at all? I know the LTE won't work but just wondering if they're unlocked or stuck on T-Mobile only?
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There are many T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2's on craigslist in my area for around $500. Does anyone know if these will work on AT&T at all? I know the LTE won't work but just wondering if they're unlocked or stuck on T-Mobile only?
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If you flash a att modem and change the apns it should be good to go...?...That's what many people were doing with the att galaxy note 1 for people on t-mobile in our threads(att samsung galaxy note 1)
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If you flash a att modem and change the apns it should be good to go...?...That's what many people were doing with the att galaxy note 1 for people on t-mobile in our threads(att samsung galaxy note 1)
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Hmmm, sounds dangerous lol. Will probably just try the APN change and if that doesn't work then do the $25 online unlock
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If you flash a att modem and change the apns it should be good to go...?...That's what many people were doing with the att galaxy note 1 for people on t-mobile in our threads(att samsung galaxy note 1)
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The most stupid comment i had read in a while. Dont flash different carrier modems if you do not want to brick your phone. Great advice you give to users ropqir.
Unlock the T-Mobile Note 2 and you will get HSPA on AT&T's network.
No Flashing required.
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The most stupid comment i had read in a while. Dont flash different carrier modems if you do not want to brick your phone. Great advice you give to users ropqir.
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You apparently don't know anything about flashing..So if you were educated you would know that it does work and in fact confirmed method to work on other (t-mobile) carriers..
Flashing a different rom will cause bricking not modems. Learn to research..This is all in AT&T section..
At the time t-mobile didn't have the galaxy note so people bought the att version and flashed the modems and changed the apn to make it work on there network...Now that you want a t-mobile device to work on AT&T its the same process just use the att modem and att apns...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679722
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1913691
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The most stupid comment i had read in a while. Dont flash different carrier modems if you do not want to brick your phone. Great advice you give to users ropqir.
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Your not very smart because people do this on our notes right now and I see my boy wish777 posted the proof, so stop telling truly helpful sr members they give stupid advice and research before you post!
lazarat said:
The most stupid comment i had read in a while. Dont flash different carrier modems if you do not want to brick your phone. Great advice you give to users ropqir.
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Actually that is a common thing to do. Hope you just misread
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So I am figuring which Note 4 variant to get. One factor is which one has best compatibility across US and internationally.
AT&T seems to list these specs:
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
T-Mobile:
Quad Band GSM; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850);
LTE: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17
So it's seems that for LTE AT&T has best compatibility (bands 20 and 29 extra with 20 being popular in Europe), while for
For 3G T-Mobile supports band IV (1700/2100) which, I suppose is AWS band only in use by T-Mobile.
So overall, AT& version seems to have better compatibility.
Other factors are, however, locked bootloader, availability of root (preferably without know tripping), amount of crap applications and other restrictions.
One thing that I observed with my T-Mobile Note 3 is that I couldn't change voicemail number on Cricket sim card. Worked fine on AT&T phone though.
So any thoughts on that? What other things worth considering to make a choice?
for me the AT&T Version is better because you gonna have full perfect coverage without issues just only have to wait for root but very soon somebody its going to do something with root.
The only reason people bought the T-Mobile or Canadian versions of previous Samsung phones was because of their LTE support. The UK version supports all the bands below and is 100% free from carrier molestation. It's $906 all-in delivered 2-day FedEx from an authorized Samsung UK reseller which means its 2-year warranty is intact (you have to send it to the UK for a claim though). It's also Exynos vs. S-805 which is a big deal to some people. If my Note 4 wasn't a free Next upgrade and I had to pay I'd be getting the UK version. And how exactly does warranty coverage work for a T-Mobile phone when there's not a T-Mobile account associated with it? Has anyone actually had a T-Mobile phone repaired by them as a non-customer?
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The only reason people bought the T-Mobile or Canadian versions of previous Samsung phones was because of their LTE support. The UK version supports all the bands below and is 100% free from carrier molestation. It's $906 all-in delivered 2-day FedEx from an authorized Samsung UK reseller which means its 2-year warranty is intact (you have to send it to the UK for a claim though). It's also Exynos vs. S-805 which is a big deal to some people. If my Note 4 wasn't a free Next upgrade and I had to pay I'd be getting the UK version. And how exactly does warranty coverage work for a T-Mobile phone when there's not a T-Mobile account associated with it? Has anyone actually had a T-Mobile phone repaired by them as a non-customer?
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I paid off the balance on my T-mobile Galaxy S4 and took it to AIO (Cricket) shortly after purchase. After a few months, the GPS module quit working. I had to return it to stock and send it back to Samsung for warranty service. I doubt T-Mobile would have helped me at all without active service so I didn't even try.
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The only reason people bought the T-Mobile or Canadian versions of previous Samsung phones was because of their LTE support. The UK version supports all the bands below and is 100% free from carrier molestation. It's $906 all-in delivered 2-day FedEx from an authorized Samsung UK reseller which means its 2-year warranty is intact (you have to send it to the UK for a claim though). It's also Exynos vs. S-805 which is a big deal to some people. If my Note 4 wasn't a free Next upgrade and I had to pay I'd be getting the UK version. And how exactly does warranty coverage work for a T-Mobile phone when there's not a T-Mobile account associated with it? Has anyone actually had a T-Mobile phone repaired by them as a non-customer?
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Having an active account has nothing to do with their return or warranty policy. T-Mobile will honor the returns or repairs.
I've never had to have a repair, but I have returned a phone within the return period without having an active account without issue.
This is my unlocked T Mobile Note 4 on AT&T network. Smoking quick!
How long you been using the tmobile note 4 on att martinezma99? You are in Charleston, SC? Have you noticed any issues with connection being dropped or similar as lots of people had experienced with previous samsung tmobile phones on att? Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about trying this.
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How long you been using the tmobile note 4 on att martinezma99? You are in Charleston, SC? Have you noticed any issues with connection being dropped or similar as lots of people had experienced with previous samsung tmobile phones on att? Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about trying this.
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@mnorris0678 It has been 48 hours since I got the T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T. Yes, I'm in Charleston, SC.
I've noticed zero issues with connection drops. I also own the AT&T Note 4 and tested speeds. Zero difference.
Call quality is supurb.
Repairs...
A lot of people seem to be worried about repairs if they buy a tmo variant. Peace of mind is SquareTrade, they cover phones now. Just get a plan during the first 30days 99 bucks and 75 for replacement if needed.
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Have you noticed any issues with connection being dropped or similar as lots of people had experienced with previous samsung tmobile phones on att?
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hmmm...I think the vast majority of people haven't had any problems with previous Samsung phones on ATT in my opinion. I've had my Tmobile Note 3 on ATT for over a year and haven't had any problems and I've traveled quite a few places in the US. The main issue I have seen is people's LTE switching to HSPA sooner that ATT's version in places where LTE is weak.
I've only heard great things about the Tmobile Note 4 on ATT so far.
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hmmm...I think the vast majority of people haven't had any problems with previous Samsung phones on ATT in my opinion. I've had my Tmobile Note 3 on ATT for over a year and haven't had any problems and I've traveled quite a few places in the US. The main issue I have seen is people's LTE switching to HSPA sooner that ATT's version in places where LTE is weak.
I've only heard great things about the Tmobile Note 4 on ATT so far.
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I can confirm that the LTE drop to HSPA problem that I experienced with the Note 3 is definitely not happening with my Note 4. I was definitely concerned it would and overly sensitive to watching for it, but have now ruled it out as an issue.
att unlocked note 4 on t-mobile
I can confirm unlocked att note 4 works great on t-mobile. LTE works great. you have to input apn settings though and I found you have to enable smart handoff from wifi to DATA
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@mnorris0678 It has been 48 hours since I got the T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T. Yes, I'm in Charleston, SC.
I've noticed zero issues with connection drops. I also own the AT&T Note 4 and tested speeds. Zero difference.
Call quality is supurb.
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I'm trying to do this too. Did u have to sim unlock it? I threw my ATT SIM in the phone and entered apn settings. Bam LTE popped up! However after 2 to 3 minutes, data dropped out completely and couldn't make a call or text. Is this due to not being SIM unlocked? I got it from a friend at rent a center for cheap. He assured me my ATT SIM would work. It is not lol. Any ideas guys? I've done everything except SIM unlock, and root/unlock bootloader.
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I can confirm unlocked att note 4 works great on t-mobile. LTE works great. you have to input apn settings though and I found you have to enable smart handoff from wifi to DATA
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Smart handoff? I'm having major issues. I can't get my phone to stay connected.
Yes, I did a SIM unlock to get phone to work on AT&T.
for me the AT&T Version is better because you gonna have full perfect coverage without issues just only have to wait for root but very soon somebody its going to do something with root.<br/>
I wouldn't hold my breath on the AT&T Note 4 getting root.
i switched from ATT to tmobile. i have ATT version that i am using on TMobile.
So with the band information that you gave i should not have any problem right. there is no reason to switch TMobile version of the Note 4 except root. am i right?
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i switched from ATT to tmobile. i have ATT version that i am using on TMobile.
So with the band information that you gave i should not have any problem right. there is no reason to switch TMobile version of the Note 4 except root. am i right?
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Root and Wifi Calling.
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I'm trying to do this too. Did u have to sim unlock it? I threw my ATT SIM in the phone and entered apn settings. Bam LTE popped up! However after 2 to 3 minutes, data dropped out completely and couldn't make a call or text. Is this due to not being SIM unlocked? I got it from a friend at rent a center for cheap. He assured me my ATT SIM would work. It is not lol. Any ideas guys? I've done everything except SIM unlock, and root/unlock bootloader.
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Smart handoff? I'm having major issues. I can't get my phone to stay connected.
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I've had the T-mobile note 4 on AT&T since the second week when phone dropped. I actually had to call AT&T and have them turn tri band on for my phone. My phone still shows as a blackberry on my account but LTE and cell service is perfect.
I have both AT&T and T-mobile versions. The AT&T lags a lot. I prefer my T-mobile only because of root. I can't live without Titanium Backup. And being able to remove that annoying volume warning is priceless since I use it for streaming in the car daily.
What about the Canadian W8 version on AT&T? It has all LTE bands the AT&T version has except B12, where T-Mobile version has all except B7. Is AT&T using either of those bands? In Colorado AT&T is using B17 I'm pretty sure.
Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
It will work in tmobile, yes. But won't you be losing some bands cricket/att use? I use cricket too and was trying to get the international model for this reason. With the tmobile version your missing some of the 3g and LTE bands that att uses.
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GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100)
LTE: Band: 2, 4, 7, 12, 17;
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It won't make a difference.
Thanks for asking this question as I am bout to do the same. Just want to be sure that I will be OK w the T-Mobile phone on AT&T. I live in NY and will be using the phone mostly in the USA. If anyone has done this, your feedback would be appreciated!
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Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...
IlyaKol said:
Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.
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There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...
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It's in the general sub-forum. Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/t-mobile-version-available-t3119636
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Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.
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I know but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.
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I know, but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.
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AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.
geoff5093 said:
AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.
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The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.
IlyaKol said:
The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.
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Depending on your market, you may be perfectly fine, since you have the T-Mobile version I'd wait and see how happy you are with the service. The AT&T G4 costs a lot more.
Well, it just came. So I'll test it out with my Cricket SIM and see how it goes. But I'm leaning towards swapping it out.
Update, probably last one.
1) Put my Cricket SIM into the new LG G4.
2) Got a message saying phone was locked to network. Call support to get it unlocked.
3) Called support and they said because I don't have a T-Mobile account, they cannot unlock it. I'd need to go through a 3rd party to do that. BUT, if I do that, I can no longer return the phone.
I'm not going to bother with 3rd Parties and will just get an AT&T phone which will allow me to use my Cricket SIM without issue, plus have all of the missing bands. So, I am starting the return process on my T-Mobile LG G4, unless someone wants to buy it from me?
thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.
VR32 said:
thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.
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No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).
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No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).
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I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.
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I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.
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Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
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Dennisg34 said:
Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
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It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before
frigidazzi said:
It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before
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I spoke to the guy at my local AT&T store who said they aren't doing an official pre-order but that he'll put me on the list to reserve one and I'll come get it when it arrives.
Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).
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Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).
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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?
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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?
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Not sure. I'll try the links for the promo's when I get the device...and find out.
Hey, I plan to buy my Galaxy so from Samsung rather than my carrier (ATT). I have a couple questions. Will I just be able to add the Sim currently in my Galaxy say or will I need a new one? Also, will I have to take it into the store?
Just put your existing soon card in and away you go. No need for anything else. It's what I did when I got my Note 8 from Samsung.
If you buy it from Samsung, the phone it's unlocked, so you can use any valid SIM (including the one you are currently using now).
Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
The carrier versions will have the standard carrier bloat pre-installed.
I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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And if you have an s8 or other qualifying phone you can get a total of $450 off I believe on Friday from Best Buy.
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I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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It looks like the answer to our question is on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
The T-Mobile version seems to be missing the following, in comparison to the unlocked US version:
4G FDD LTE B71 (600 mhz) - This is T-Mobile's new spectrum... this seems important to have (just google t-mobile 600mhz)
2G CDMA and 3G CDMA - I don't believe this matters to us
3G TD-SCDMA B34 and B39 (2010 and 1880mhz) - I assume these will be missed if outside LTE coverage?
But in general, the unlocked version seems to support more bands than the Tmo version
So, it seems if one is on the T-Mobile network and plans to stay there, they really should get the T-Mobile version of the phone.... someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
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You do know that unlocked isn't meaning unlocked bootloader right? It's meaning unlocked bands
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I'm with AT&T and I'm pretty sure there will be no wifi calling on any phone other than the AT&T version. That's a feature I want. If it doesn't matter to you an unlocked phone may be for you. I don't know for a fact that wifi calling won't work on an unlocked S9 but if it does, it will be the first. I don't want the extra carrier apps but they aren't going to cause me any grief on a beast like this phone. I'd rather have the services the carrier provides if I'm going to use them. If It turns out that wifi calling works on the unlocked S9, I may revise my plan but I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty much done with the rooting/modding stuff so that isn't an issue. Even the master hackers are going with stock phones d/t the features and security.