Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
johnjph said:
Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
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From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
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From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
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But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
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But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
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If you live in an area where T-mobile is switching over their 1900mhz frequency T-mobile might be faster. If not ATT will probably be faster.
Here is a map of T-mobile progress.
http://www.airportal.de/#
Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
gedster314 said:
Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
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Assuming that the hardware for the TMO and ATT versions are different, will there likely be a substantially different price for the unlocked versions of these phones?
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i have an upgrade for tmobile. is there anywhere i can buy the gn to credit this upgrade? the google nexus page says that the only place to buy is verizon.
no its currently unavailable for any U.S. carriers unless you get the LTE version.
You can however spend ~$700 and buy the phone for the full price. That's the only way to get it on T-Mobile/AT&T.
zephiK said:
no its currently unavailable for any U.S. carriers unless you get the LTE version.
You can however spend ~$700 and buy the phone for the full price. That's the only way to get it on T-Mobile/AT&T.
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wow. i can't believe it. this is the worst nexus launch ever. guess i just wait for the next batch of smartphones to come out.
unfortunately zephik is correct. if your a T-mobile customer buying it unlocked is the only way to get the phone.
And right now there is no reason to expect a T-Mobile release in the US anytime soon.
basically if you don't want to do that, buy a galaxy s 2 and install cyanogen 9 on it when it eventually comes out. or just wait. but it could be a very very very long wait.
neok44 said:
unfortunately zephik is correct. if your a T-mobile customer buying it unlocked is the only way to get the phone.
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For now anyway, there will probably be a subsidized tmobile version in a few months.
gimiento said:
For now anyway, there will probably be a subsidized tmobile version in a few months.
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Most likely after Verizon's exclusivity to Galaxy Nexus which is unsure at this time.
Keep in mind that when the AT&T version launches (or vice versa), it should be compatible with both 4G networks because of pentaband.
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Most likely after Verizon's exclusivity to Galaxy Nexus which is unsure at this time.
Keep in mind that when the AT&T version launches (or vice versa), it should be compatible with both 4G networks because of pentaband.
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Is there any word on the domestic GSM launch? I'm pretty much over the hype but my N1 is on its last legs so I wouldn't mind picking up for a price reduction stateside rather than importing...
Use your upgrade to get the SG2 from tmobile then sell it.
With that money buy Galaxy Nexus.
bpm2000 said:
Is there any word on the domestic GSM launch? I'm pretty much over the hype but my N1 is on its last legs so I wouldn't mind picking up for a price reduction stateside rather than importing...
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Not at this moment. From what rumors have said, Verizon has exclusivity on the Galaxy Nexus in the states at a unknown time. When this is over, I'm sure it'll expand.
I bought mines from Negri for $685 (after coupon). Pretty fast shipping, was overall satisfied with the purchase.
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Most likely after Verizon's exclusivity to Galaxy Nexus which is unsure at this time.
Keep in mind that when the AT&T version launches (or vice versa), it should be compatible with both 4G networks because of pentaband.
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I thought I read that the ATT version that already went through the FCC did NOT support T-Mobile bands.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-visits-fcc-again-but-with-att-bands-02199735/
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I thought I read that the ATT version that already went through the FCC did NOT support T-Mobile bands.
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Oh really? well that's a step backwards because the GSM version thats already out in Europe and being imported to the States are pentaband (supporting HSPA+ on both T-Mobile & AT&T... HSPA+ is what they market "4G" as here).
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Oh really? well that's a step backwards because the GSM version thats already out in Europe and being imported to the States are pentaband (supporting HSPA+ on both T-Mobile & AT&T... HSPA+ is what they market "4G" as here).
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Yeah, looks like the international version is better.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-visits-fcc-again-but-with-att-bands-02199735/
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Yeah, looks like the international version is better.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-visits-fcc-again-but-with-att-bands-02199735/
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That's so silly, such a step backwards and waste of money changing the bands and creating more models of the same phone but I guess we'll just have to wait and see when the AT&T/T-Mo version gets announced.
Typical U.S. carriers wish U.S. carriers were more like European ones. They all offer the same phone, difference are the plans/service/coverage which is better competition in the end imo.
looks like im gonna have to choose between the htc amaze or sgs 2 now. leaning more toward the sgs2 though
Compatibility...
zephiK said:
no its currently unavailable for any U.S. carriers unless you get the LTE version.
You can however spend ~$700 and buy the phone for the full price. That's the only way to get it on T-Mobile/AT&T.
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Sorry for being thick about this - you're saying that LTE model is not at all compatible with T-Mobile's GSM network? No voice/edge/3g, even if I unlock the phone?
diginic said:
Sorry for being thick about this - you're saying that LTE model is not at all compatible with T-Mobile's GSM network? No voice/edge/3g, even if I unlock the phone?
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LTE model will not work with GSM carriers such as AT&T or T-Mobile.
diginic said:
Sorry for being thick about this - you're saying that LTE model is not at all compatible with T-Mobile's GSM network? No voice/edge/3g, even if I unlock the phone?
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+1 to what jetrii said. The LTE uses a MicroSIM card (I believe), it doesn't support T-Mobile or AT&T bands. Only Verizon's 4G LTE network.
I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
I believe att has the lte version. Yes different phones.
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Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
RizSher said:
Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
RizSher said:
Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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If you bring an AT&T phone to T-Mobile, you will not get 4G.
You can best 3G if your AT&T Phone has the 1900 range, you can get 3G on T-Mobile's service. Not sure how well it will be since it's only picking 1900 without others.
If you unlock your T-Mobile S3 you should be able to get 3G/HSPA+ on AT&T. The T-Mobile S3 is a pentaband device.
RizSher said:
I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
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If you are using an iPhone you might as well do the $2 a day since the $3 will only affect you if your phone gets 4G. They will be exactly the same performance on the $2 since it will just be on unlimited EDGE.
rmanne said:
There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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I also want to know about this
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I also want to know about this
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Know about what?
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I see that both notes from att and tmo support band IV. This begs the question, would an att note 2 work on the tmobile network?
thanks
privatewarrior1 said:
I see that both notes from att and tmo support band IV. This begs the question, would an att note 2 work on the tmobile network?
thanks
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Possibly. With T-mobile refarming their network to use the 1900 band, all newer T-mobile phones are pentaband. AT&T will never use the 1700 AWS band which t-mobile currently uses, so it is not included in the phone. The only way that the AT&T version will work on T-mobile is if Samsung mass produced the versions together to save money (which is very possible).
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I see that both notes from att and tmo support band IV. This begs the question, would an att note 2 work on the tmobile network?
thanks
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According to multiple websites, engadget/gizmodo, The T-Mobile and AT&T internals are identical. All you would need to do is unlock
steve45058 said:
According to multiple websites, engadget/gizmodo, The T-Mobile and AT&T internals are identical. All you would need to do is unlock
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Yeah that's what it looks like. I was comparing the specs from tmobile.com and att.com and couldn't tell that there exists much difference.
Do you happen to have some links to the engadget/giz article?
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privatewarrior1 said:
Yeah that's what it looks like. I was comparing the specs from tmobile.com and att.com and couldn't tell that there exists much difference.
Do you happen to have some links to the engadget/giz article?
thanks
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Not home right now so I cant find it in my history, but this article should help.
theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
"Samsung's Galaxy Note II has been announced for multiple US carriers, but T-Mobile's version of the device contains an interesting surprise: hardware support for LTE. As noted by AnandTech, T-Mobile's variant is essentially the same hardware as AT&T's, including support for LTE. Of course, T-Mobile doesn't yet have an LTE network launched for the NoteII to run on, but it does plan to have it by the end of 2013. The big question, then, is whether the Note II will support it — T-Mobile's answer is yes, but with caveats:"
I'm currently on att with a note 2 and i've switched to t-mobile and will be recieving a new phone in the mail soon. Should i return it and just flash a t-mobile rom onto my current phone? or should i just sell my att one on craigslist and keep the new t-mobile phone? Any possible loss of features or functionality by sticking with the phone i have?
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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prepaidguy9081 said:
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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Tmo hasnt released the update to let tmo gnotes2 work on their lte network, because its not up and running most places... Possibly only update customers who are in Kansas City.
Not too clear if att gnotes2 with att specific firmware would work on tmo's network. Theoretically it should work, but their might be some radio issues that give u shoddy service. Unlocking phones is illegal now, so idk if u could sim unlock ur phone through att to work for tmo anyways. Might have to go through ebay or something to do so.
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Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
scooby-snack said:
Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
LTE-X said:
T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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Only if we can unlock it
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
mehdi_s82 said:
Only if we can unlock it
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Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
Itaintrite said:
Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
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Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
verks said:
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
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Is that a typo verks? Did you get it unlocked?
Goronok said:
Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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So you used a friend's sim card for 2 days? Did you fully just let them use your phone for 2 days? If I can, I'd rather go this is route than wait another 32 days..
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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That's the thing. you have had tmobile for a while so unlocking it isnt an issue. that app checks how long your line has been active. i just activated mine to get the phone. sucks. i may end up switching to tmobile anyways. still deciding..
I want to buy a T-mobile s6 off craigslist (for $600 rather than $670+tax from T-mobile or $700 tonight only for an international version), but these posts are getting me scared. I also have no intention of starting up service with T-mobile. If I find a friend (or a seller) who is a loyal T-mobile customer, would I be able to unlock it in a timely fashion? Also, what specifically would the process be?
It will work on AT&T but the T-Mobile variant has fewer bands available.
The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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Any idea if those missing bands are important or not?
I'd can't say that they are not important, but they do not account for the bulk of what you'll generally use. My understanding is they are going to be used in future high traffic areas, but my knowledge is pretty limited.
I can tell you that I have no LTE issues with my T-Mobile Note 4 which pulls generally the same speeds as my AT&T S6 edge side by side.
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Kingissa said:
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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See attachments for bands supported by both AT&T and T-Mobile variants. If you're asking if both variant support VoLTE, they do.
The AT&T variant appears to covers all T-Mobile LTE bands but does not seem to cover the 1700 band.
Check threads on previous AT&T Galaxy models on T-Mobile.
I wish I could give you better clarity on using an AT&T device on T-Mobiles network, but I just haven't done it. I've only done it the other way around. I can tell you that I have done this for several generations of Galaxy releases and the results in performance has only been subpar on one occasion. I think that was the Note 2 or Note 3. I don't remember which one right now, but the data was just a little slower at times. This isn't what you're trying to do anyways.
I hope that help a little.