I found this article interesting, I have had T-Mobile for 2 years, so I've chalked the superior battery life I've gotten on the new technology, but any recent customers have experience with this?
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http://www.greenbot.com/article/246...-better-battery-life-than-other-carriers.html
Semantics said:
I found this article interesting, I have had T-Mobile for 2 years, so I've chalked the superior battery life I've gotten on the new technology, but any recent customers have experience with this?
http://www.greenbot.com/article/246...-better-battery-life-than-other-carriers.html
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My experience is anecdotal of course, but in many years with TMO, I've noticed I've had better battery durations consistently among my peers (same phone) at other carriers, and when discussed, we assumed two factors: 1) TMO coverage has been comparatively sparse, especially indoors, 2) When signal strength is good, it's a more stable 'fix' than other carriers, or the frequencies are simply more energy efficient, combined with tower spread. Sparse coverage means a drop in service level (ie. from 3G->2G) that results in less energy to maintain a connection. TMO focused their fastest service in dense urban areas, and oriented their towers a bit closer together compared to competitors, and here in Cali, also 'borrowed' cell towers in agreements with AT&T in the G, EDGE, 2G, 3G days. The result was that outdoors in urban/suburban areas, one got good to great, stable reception, with little searching to maintain connection. When one went indoors or signal otherwise degraded, a drop in service level was rather immediate, again resulting in less energy consumed maintaining a useable but slower connection. Even TMO's H+/3.5G/'fake 4G' was more efficient than their competitors '4G'. Now, I believe the 10x10 and 20x20 LTE in use is perhaps continuing the TMO lower energy tradition, as they still have denser coverage in populated areas, and expanding in traveling corridors (freeways connection major cities), where their competitors have been for some time. Sprint was all about broadest coverage, ATT was all about fastest service, VZN (in Cali) focused on selling hardware and heavy advertising, but was largely shunned by business, made up by volume and prepaid service. TMO approached their growth differently, and at a disadvantage in spectrum, but trudged through based on value and service, to where it is now. So this article bolsters my perception of how it has gone down.
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You need to exchange it asap. It's as simple as that, you have a bad unit. A software patch or anything else isn't really going to help you. So save yourself some headache and just call up Verizon. Tests have been done (on working units) that show the nexus gets similar or even better connections compared to Verizon's other offerings.
I tested this myself vs my fiance's Droid 3. She showed more bars than I but I had a better download speed and slightly lower db. Both on 3G. To be more conclusive, she had four bars while I had NONE and similar db.
The only thing Verizon is going to do is make our bars show like the Droid 3 and other phones such as the RAZR. So exchange until you get a working unit, we really can't help you. That is all.
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You just verified that Verizon is doing the right thing. It's not the bars that matter it's the db. If you are getting similar db then you are getting the same signal strength regardless of whether it shows 1 or 4 bars.
I think this is what I'm going to do. I only have until next Thursday to return the phone since I bought my Gnex from a non-corporate store so tomorrow I'm going to take my re-locked nexus back and exchange for another. If that one still sucks in the reception department, I guess I'm getting a Razr.
Added pictures of what a working device should be getting for more evidence that this isn't everyone's problem.
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Already switched out my device once and it is having the exact same problem. So I have 2 brand new phones and the first one worked great for a couple days and then they had their nationwide outage. I kind of doubt Verizon will keep switching phones until they find a working one...if indeed that is the problem. I figured if it was a phone defect that new sites would be all over this.
What is considered a good signal strength reading? Mine has varied from -80 to -110 at times.
Between -85 and -75 is considered excellent.
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SAMSUNG CONFIRMS ANDROID 5.0 FOR NOTE 2
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now to wait and see if t-mobile drops it or says screw the note 2 like they have with 4.4.2
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now to wait and see if t-mobile drops it or says screw the note 2 like they have with 4.4.2
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It shouldnt matter. Once we (by we I mean the developers) get a hold of the Firmware the LTE models can have the same love.
true dat. be nice to drop a 7105 5.0 rom on my note 2. be even nicer if t-mobile drops it though
How long until we get the first international rom?
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It shouldnt matter. Once we (by we I mean the developers) get a hold of the Firmware the LTE models can have the same love.
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You are certainly correct. However, some of us are T-Mo customers that live in marginal T-Mo coverage areas. We, or certainly me anyway, rely heavily on WiFi calling. So we depend on an actual T-Mo release. I have very recent (3 mos.) and very marginal LTE coverage and above average HSPA+ coverage where I live. (T-Mo still does not show my city in the LTE list!) I love the developer ROMs, but I use the WiFi calling a lot to improve my coverage. Of course, what does that make me, to stay with T-Mo in a marginal coverage area!? duh !!! Thank you for your wonderful development work.
Happy New Year to all!
sammobile annonced today the international Note II LTE in France is getting 4.4.2 update
we should get the 5.0 eventualy to extend our Note life for atleast another year...
looking forward to it in 3-4 months lol
Condolances - Stuck Like Me !!!! lol
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You are certainly correct. However, some of us are T-Mo customers that live in marginal T-Mo coverage areas. We, or certainly me anyway, rely heavily on WiFi calling. So we depend on an actual T-Mo release. I have very recent (3 mos.) and very marginal LTE coverage and above average HSPA+ coverage where I live. (T-Mo still does not show my city in the LTE list!) I love the developer ROMs, but I use the WiFi calling a lot to improve my coverage. Of course, what does that make me, to stay with T-Mo in a marginal coverage area!? duh !!! Thank you for your wonderful development work.
Happy New Year to all!
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Old thread I know, I have a similar issue and NO carrier in Orlando has any better network coverage where I live than any other, so it's WiFi calling or almost nothing and I'm not selling my house over that issue. lol
Please no one hold your breath for anything from T-Mobile on a Note II; please see this link:
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates
Best to all of you, anyone needing T-Mobile semi-seamless WiFi calling on a Note II is stuck at 4.3.x
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Please don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger ! :silly:
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Getting these speeds with full bars,half bars,no bars, different areas of my city, Dallas, TX. Local AT&T store says they are aware of the issue........Dammit. Anyone else?
Kinda slow, but not nearly as bad out here in outskirts of Topeka Kansas.
Yeah, it's not normal, takes about 15 minutes to download a 7 mb app....
This is my speed and apn settings
Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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This is totally untrue. I have very fast speeds on ATT and have coverage anywhere I go. I carried a Verizon phone for work and ATT for personal and both have spots (very few for either) where they didn't have service but ATT is just as fast.
ATT where I live (Orange County CA) is way faster in speed than friends I have with Verizon phones on their LTE network.
I'm all good from South of Houston. Great speeds where I'm at always consistent.
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Mines never given me a problem.
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Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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lol, false. I seen AT&T have the exact opposite to what you just said. And seen Verizon have slower to poor data speeds.
I've never seen that anywhere that they both have towers. I'm talking good signal full bars both 4g lte, att is always slower. Quite often atts network won't even work, getting speeds well below 1Mbps , this has been confirmed on multiple att phone's so I know for a fact its the network and not my phone.
I notice that OP3 generally performs poorer when it comes to reception when compared against my family's other devices the OnePlus One and LG G Flex 2. They are all on the same T-Mobile family plan, and the use the same home WiFi, but the OP3 is clearly the weakest of the bunch. 4G LTE and WiFi download speeds are generally a little lower compared to the other two phones, on today's test 4G LTE upload speeds were drastically worse.
A simple side by side GPS test also showed poorer performance.
Is this typical of metal phones in general, or is something clearly at fault with the OP3?
I haven't had any real show stopping issues that would make me want to return the phone, but I've been putting this phone through its paces with Pokémon Go, and it's been a pretty annoying experience thus far..
Edit: Below is a comparison of the LG G Flex 2 and OnePlus 3 using the GPS Test app. 13/20 satellites is usually as high as I've seen the OP3 go with any consistency, it's usually lower than that, whereas the LG G Flex 2 easily picks up almost all of the satellites in view. Feel free to share your own screenshots!!
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I have found the same issue and am looking for a fix. I love this phone but it definitely has issues maintaining solid reception. Have you had any luck?
I have a feeling that OP has not boosted the antenna strength in order to get more battery power. I noticed that often that during sleep that if the phone receives SMS, it's delayed by 8mins with OP3. With other phones, I get the text in under 1-2 mins if the device is sleep. I have not lost signal with any other phones but with the OP3 I have lost signal multiple times while in the middle of talking (GSM) with others.
I don't think it's only metal phones, I've had Nexus 6P and it's signal quality is good. It's in the software so I hope they can fix it in a later release. This phone is only good when it's screen on and not walking around where signal can be weak.
hey everyone,.. who have issues with the signal quality
do you have issues on custom roms as well? Just checking... pls let me know! Thanks!
I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
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I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
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It only shows true when 5g data is being actively used.
It only registers it when in active use because of the fact that 4g is the default default when it comes to most phone functions.
Texting, phone calls, mms all go through 4g.
You can also verify that whole deal through my LTE configuration in the screenshot.
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Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
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Gotta remember, it wasn't too long ago that people thought granting permission for internal storage would end up with their info gone or some other semi-sensationalist dribble.
This was the same way with early 4G phones. The first gen 4G radios used HSDPA+ which late gen 3G radios would connect to, but not fully utilize. How products and services are marketed are always divorced from what they really are, they won't outright lie, but they take advantage that the average customer won't read the fine print, are not engineers, and would complain to bbb(where ratings are bought) and never think about complaining to the FCC. The radio in my n10 pulls 10+ mbps consistently, no LTE branded radio I've had would get better 5 mbps. It's clearly using hardware that, for example my One+ 6T, does not have. According to xml's found in vendor partition, and info from system/vendor props Qualcom engineers have it classified as LTE, T-MOBILE marketing calls it 5G. Labels aside, network performance suggests this device has upgraded hardware. If your not impressed, try disabling ipv6 in your APN, and /proc/net/ipv6 files. You need root/adb anymore to do this. I attest to dramatic differences in network performance as it bypasses some network throttling. I don't know about you, but I waste the 30 gig throttle limit the first two days on the new radio.