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Sorry for the noobish question... but i just got my G2 today and i want to flash a good, stable, Good battery life, no bugs Rom
Can you guys help me out and give me your top 5 choices?
#1 Being the best
Thanks ALot :-D
Hi everyone..
I too would be interested to hear which are the most popular ROM's
I have a Nokia N900, and it is time to move as I really need a couple of apps that Android have, but Maemo doesn't
So Im upgrading to my first ever Android phone (a desire z) and would like to hear what ROM's are considered good. Im guessing none of them are bad, but it would be interesting to hear which are the most popular. Im not ready to root and install a ROM yet, but I will spend the next few weeks getting to know the phone and read up understand the process and then off I go!
Haven't done this since the bad old days of WM 6.5, so am a bit rusty, though there were a couple of kernel swaps on the N900..
Looking forward to tinkering and learning a new OS, and hopefully getting to grips with the new kitchen as well, as that really looks interesting...
Thx in advance
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1. CM7 for the obviously ground breaking reasons...
MoDaCo/Paul's Sense ROM
Either of the new MIUIs
Thanks ab0m
Off to google and read now..
Its really up to personal preference and what works for you. You're going to get a lot of CM7 responses now that it is at RC1 and beyond, and very stable.
Go read up on the Wiki in the dev forum, and try them out for yourself. See what you like the most. There are stock roms, Sense-based roms, MIUI, and many others.
CM7 should get the nod for being the best just because of what it is. That being said, I use GingerMex, which is a rom based on CM7 with custom animations, theme and some other tweaks and stuff. Beyond that, if you like Sense roms there are a slew of those as well, but I don't have much experience with those because I don't like the restrictive nature of the Sense launcher.
1. CM7
2. Virtuous (a close 2)
3. GingerMex
4. ModaCo Sense
5. MUIU
CM7 is clearly the fastest, stable, and efficient in terms of battery usage. Virtuous is the best Sense ROM and that team works hard to put out a good product. Not so easy on the battery efficiency, but it is now very stable, and any issues you incur are probably because of advanced kernel use. GingerMex is based on CM7, it just has the custom look to it, that I'm not too fond of (to each their own of course), but it is very stable and fast. MoDaCo is another Sense ROM that is basically stock without any of the bloatware. Kind of plain, to me. MUIU looks like an iPhone, if that's what you're into - I just personally didn't care for the look. I think one of the pluses of that ROM is that it's file size is really small, so it doesn't use up too much internal memory.
enserio said:
1. CM7
2. Virtuous (a close 2)
3. GingerMex
4. ModaCo Sense
5. MUIU
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I would have to agree with this. I have stopped looking for other roms and just stick with CM now.
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Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
The point of rooting is to open up a whole new world of customization. Once you root your phone, you can do a lot LOT more with your phone than you can now.
Just look at the choices of roms you'll have.
Believe me, rooting your DHD will be the best thing you'll do to your phone.
And as far as custom roms are concerned, there is no such thing as 'the best rom'.. it all depends on personal choice.
If you like the idea of trying different roms then you'll need to root.
You can get an idea from the screenshots in the ROM threads of how different your phone experience can be with custom roms.
(I started out rooting just for an easier way to take screenshots.)
Here is a page of screenshots from the CyanogenMod 7 rom I had on my phone a while back (plus some other wallpapers). As you can see, it is quite different. It's worth trying different roms if you like to tinker and improve the experience, be it visual, performance or whatever.
It can become an addiction or distraction though, so be warned. Good Luck.
It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
raze599 said:
It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
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Amen. Likewise. hahaha.
One word - Customisation.
That's why you should root and try out different ROMs find out the mix that suits you perfectly rather than sticking to what HTC TELLS you you want.
chocolate mousse said:
what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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The is no best rom. Each has specific features, so you have to test what works best for you.
Popular roms are Android Revolution HD, CyanogenMod, Leedroid, Rcmix, MIUI, Coredroid etc...
wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
chocolate mousse said:
wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
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Everything is here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
Using the search function is your best friend
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Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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With a rooted phone, you can get total control of your phone,
With stock ROMs they have limited some functions, but once you rooted you can get rid of those limitation. For simple example, you cant take screenshots of your phone without rooting.
And secondly you can install custom ROMs on your phone and even overclock your processor.
Hope this helped,
Thanks!
As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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Very addicting indeed.. More like, 3 times a day in flashing different roms, just for the sake of showing off to my significant other..
furrypotato said:
As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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i rooted two days ago and now im running cm7. best decision i have ever made!! wish id done it a lot sooner. i have a question about overclocking, well, underclocking with cm7. did you use the performance setting within cyanogenmod to adjust the cpu settings or did you use a third party app like setcpu. going to try around 1400 overclock and run whatever the minimum is.
cheers
Hello
Im a proud owner of DesireZ, got it from my provider for free, and I could not possibly think of a better phone than this. On stock clock - it runs high graphic games, and it runs smooth. I really cant imagine what would someone do with announced Exynos 2Ghz on SGS3, apart from resolution requirements. But than again, everything above ~250ppi is just retarded, by my standards. This HTC phone is perfect for me.
so, my question is -
1. need to replace stock rom with something good
2. need fully working phone (camera also, so no ICS for me, I guess )
3. need info on Sense version that doesnt cause bugs and problems, cause I have read lots of topics with people complaining. (lagging after couple of hours, need restart and so on)
4. CM, or ICS, or some pre-tunned Gingerbread .. ?
As I have done this before with some similar devices, please link the following to me:
1. root instructions
2. backup instructions
3. best OS by my requirements (smoothness, no bugs, and pre-installed OC software are priority)
and that's it
Im sorry in advance, cause there will surely be someone that says - use search, but Im making it like this cause regular visitors of site can find that with much more ease than I could. Appreciate help in advance.
Welcome to the DZ/G2 forums!
The procedure of using gfree to root and carrier unlock your DZ is in my signature. Depending on your current installed version of ROM, you may or may not have to downgrade your phone.
The most stable versions of ROMs that I have personally tried are the following.
Virtuous Sense: The closest stock DZ ROM you can get with optimizations and tweaks. It's been debloated of carrier crap and has an OC kernel up to 1.5GHz if I am not mistaken. The best GB Sense experience you can get IMO.
Virtuous G-Lite: The closest stock G2 ROM you can get with optimizations and tweaks. Debloated of T-Mobile's carrier crap and also OC-able to about 1.5GHz. Very light weight and able to go out 2-3 days on the stock battery on a single charge depending on usage. I would, however, recommend ditching LauncherPRO in favor of GOLauncherEX though.
Thanks man!
It is not carrier locked, cause supply stock of Serbian Telekom was only few and they didnt bother, it is a plain simple out-of-the-factory Desire Z.
If I choose G-lite, can I flash my regular DesireZ, are there limitations between G2/DZ .. ?
Does OC-ing to, lets say - 1.2Ghz shorten battery life ?
I like this G-lite, as I am aware of the fact that Android generally drains much more than other OSes, as I had HTC Blackstone. 4 days on WM6.5, 1 day on Android.
If you want a Sense 3.5 ROM, but a bit refreshed, I've been using Android Revolution for a few days and it's amazingly smooth compared to the other 3.5 ones.
I would HIGHLY recommend G2 Slim. It's the latest t-mobile release of gingerbread for the G2, but it has nearly everything unnecessary removed and it has the best battery life out of ALL the ROMs on our devices.
It's a very smooth ROM with all features working, it is a bit basic but there's nothing you can't really fix with apps from the market. It's very very fast, has ridiculous amounts of free RAM, it's great with multitasking and it's even very quick when it comes to app performance.
Virtuous G-Lite is basically the same as G2 Slim, except it's much faster. It seems like the extra speed of G-Lite comes at the cost of battery life though. That said, the battery life on both of those ROMs is amazing, so you can't go wrong with either of them.
Otherwise, if you're looking for something different and a little bit fun, try out the latest gingerbread release of MIUI . You will fall in love with the theming abilities of that ROM.
Get miui, looks good, and just works. ... MIUI Android (GB)
I would highly recommend AOSP, be it G2Slim or EliteMod.
Sense and MIUI can be fun to play with, but they're just toys IMO and like to eat your RAM and battery life. They do each offer some pretty kickin' features that AOSP doesn't but I still prefer the base experience as it offers the most stability, battery-life, and overall smoothness.
Happy to hear you like the phone, I'm going on a year and a month now and I still love it! I have nothing but praises for this thing, the flash even almost survived me! But alas I have to replace it after one too many accidental hits of the Torch quick setting.
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I would highly recommend AOSP, be it G2Slim or EliteMod.
Sense and MIUI can be fun to play with, but they're just toys IMO and like to eat your RAM and battery life. They do each offer some pretty kickin' features that AOSP doesn't but I still prefer the base experience as it offers the most stability, battery-life, and overall smoothness.
Happy to hear you like the phone, I'm going on a year and a month now and I still love it! I have nothing but praises for this thing, the flash even almost survived me! But alas I have to replace it after one too many accidental hits of the Torch quick setting.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA Premium HD via my tethered HTC Vision
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I agree with this, G2 Slim and Virtuous G-lite are both fantastic AOSP ROMs that you should try out.
I like how you all automatically assume that I know the "AOSP" abreviation, but google helped me on that one
played last night with all OS-es you recommended, and in the process I made a routine with flashing so now I know what im doing, and this is hard - in terms of what to choose It is now that I actually see the potential of this phone. XDA support for this device is just awesome, one of the most supported devices generally.
@buxtahuda - had a lots of smartphones before this one, all lost due to failures:
HD2 - was crappy in terms of assemble, got loose and had really bad plastic. When I opened it it was clear that HTC assembly was not good at that time
iPhone 3g - after 6 months of usage without protection and pocket time, it looked like it had a fight with Optimus Prime.
SGS1 - fell from 2 feet and the scene looked like I dropped i light bulb - into 100 pieces. even Cornig Gorilla glass that has only one flaw - side pressure, managed to crack
DesireZ is on a whole another level. I actually managed to drop it 5th day of usage because I replaced bundle headphones (that's the only thing that sucks) and didnt have cable-control, and trying to change a song while running on high-cardio excercise (weight loss process). It fell down also having momentum cause of running and it tubmled for 4-5 meters:
still cant find where are the scratches. really, I placed it under a magnifying glass and I cant find where are the scratches from f'in concrete! awesome materials and assembly by HTC
Rooting your phone, getting S-OFF to install other Roms
Hello and have fun with your Desire Z!
Full instructions for HTC Desire Z and T-Mobile G2 Root and FULL S-OFF can be found on http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
When you need support for getting S-OFF you can join the IRC channel #G2ROOT on freenode. Browser access on webchat.freenode.net . After joining the IRC webchat you can change to channel #G2ROOT using the command "/join #G2ROOT".
My favorite ROMs for the HTC Desire Z are:
* Virtuous Affinity 2.05: A little bit slow, but great experience
* Virtuous G-Lite 2.0.1: Very fast, some special software might have issues
* CyanogenMod 7.1: Great overall ROM, respectable speed and stable.
Try the ROMs and decide for yourself!
For backing up applications I recommend using Titanium Backup (Pro), for backing up your system you can use ClockworkRecovery and RomManager.
When you want to install more than one ROM on your phone at the same time then try BootManager (from Google Play). Might not work with all ROMs but is really good to try things!
Good Luck.
Congrats on your new phone! The Desire Z is starting to show its age, but considering the developer base and the fact that you got it for free, I'd say you got a pretty good deal.
Personally, I like MIUI and CyanogenMod 7. CM7 is a classic, and everyone loves it for the degree to which it preserves stock Android, while adding on a few improvements here and there. MIUI, on the other hand, gives you a complete re-imagining of the Android interface, and it can be great to use. I find myself alternating between the two every couple months, actually. That's the beauty of the Desire Z, though: the widespread developer support means you get that kind of flexibility!
I agree that Cyanogenmod 7 is fantastic but for me, i could NEVER eliminate the constant battery drain issues that i had with it no matter what. I'd still recommend it to newcomers but i think simpler ROMs like G-lite or G2 Slim are much better.
I generally like to have a clean and consistent looking UI on any ROM that i use and CM7's styling seemed to always take a way from the stock gingerbread feel that i was looking for. That's my opinion.
Right now, i'm using Virtuous G-lite and now i know what it's like to have a really really fast phone xD.
As far as Sense ROMs go, my experience showed me that Virtuous Affinity 2.05.0 was the fastest and most stable out of all the Sense 3.* ROMs.
After many tries, I decided to stay on G-lite mainly cause of the battery, but I would also like to give a chance to Virtuous Sense, cause it seemed (for a hour of usage) like a pretty decent ROM.
MIUI reppeled me with the iPhony look, that's sometnig I want to avoid in the future, even if it has only a fraction to do with rotten Apple.
The best option would be, if anyone ever creates it, ICS based system with the "strip-down" settings like G-lite. that I would like very much
Anyways, this phone is Awesome. I did not have a hype like this with any other phone, and as I stated, I had them all shortly after release (HD2, SGS1, iPhone 3G). The only thing that's bothering me is metal back-cover which I guess will be all bumpy in the future (I hate putting my phone in covers and skins) But I guess I could recreate it out of metal, since I am good with power tools and fine cutting of stuff, and like to do that kind of projects
hi,
i'm new to the nexus since i just bricked my sgs2 with siyah kernel (korean sources have been used and bricked a lotta devices on updating the kernel)
now i'm totally overwhelmed with the list of availlable kernels and roms...
can someone please tell me just like 1 or 2 go to roms and kernels so i can start with something not too buggy i already started to read through the threads but its really alot coming from sgs2 world...
i just need something where i can undervolt a little and have mostly true ics experience (maybe with some tweaks).
i read that francone rom is used by alotta people but then i read that they dont recommend it because of lag...
thanks for the help won't bother with n00b questions after that anymore
pmcee said:
hi,
i'm new to the nexus since i just bricked my sgs2 with siyah kernel (korean sources have been used and bricked a lotta devices on updating the kernel)
now i'm totally overwhelmed with the list of availlable kernels and roms...
can someone please tell me just like 1 or 2 go to roms and kernels so i can start with something not too buggy i already started to read through the threads but its really alot coming from sgs2 world...
i just need something where i can undervolt a little and have mostly true ics experience (maybe with some tweaks).
i read that francone rom is used by alotta people but then i read that they dont recommend it because of lag...
thanks for the help won't bother with n00b questions after that anymore
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ICS Slim + Latest leankernel is the best!
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ICS Slim + Latest leankernel is the best!
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Can you point out why or what u like about the rom?
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Everyone that answers this thread will give their version/opinion on what is the "best" and all of them will be right to some degree or another. Nearly all combinations of roms/kernels mix to something that feels slightly different in some way. Personally, I have played with 4 ROMs (AOKP, AOSP, Slim and BAMF) and 2 kernels and loved most of them. Once you root your phone, it is VERY easy to experiment and decide for yourself. Play a little.
If you want speed, download a benchmark tester and put combinations to the test. If you want customizations, nearly all roms which have threads that post 20+ msgs /day have customizations that 1/2 of us will never use.
The best answer nearly anyone can give you is to experiment and try it out. It becomes fun after a while to just try and see.
My biggest recommendations to you are these:
<1> Always NANDROID backup before you try something new.
<2> Check the MD5 sums, they are there for a reason. If a sum is different you likely will encounter bugs of some sort. Especially radios! ( I can't stress this enough. A bad radio is 1-step away from a bricked, unusable phone )
<3> Have google backup your apps or learn to use Titanium backup.
<4> If you have a setup you really like that includes a theme - dont be quick to jump to a new version of a rom until you are sure that there is a theme to get you back to where you want afterwards. Nothing is more annoying than ( for example for me ) loading up a beautiful new version and having to deal with blaring white widgets you can't invert or theme.
<5> Read a little on a rom/kernel before jumping aboard. You will get a feel from the users what's good and what's bad about it.
All the above said, if you are a cowboy and just want to jump on and try things - caution to the wind:
My personal preferences:
Liquidsmooth/Franco Nightly 512
AOKP/nearly any kernel ( my first week of playing, I flashed a new one daily to "play")
SlimICS/Lean
That order.
Aokp is the go to rom most people start with. Then expand from there if you aren't satisfied.
I agree with AOKP. I actually did everything in reverse. I started with radios, almost bricked, then went with SLIM, GUMMY, and ended up on AOKP. I like AOKP a lot. Plenty of customization, great battery life (with profiles from SetCPU), easy to learn and all wrapped up in one nice package.
I may play with alternate kernals and radios later, but not until I have more information and experience.
Liquid + lean kernel expeiremental + leantweaks + uglc1 + root .
just my 2cs
It's your choice. We can only tell you, what we think is "cool".
Make a NanD backup, download a couple of ROMs, flash them. Give them a test run, find the ROM you like, then do the same with the kernel
As you asked us: I personally think, that Jack Pham is a good ROM, I'd recommend it to everyone, and my current kernel is : Imoseyon 3.0.29 I can overclock my phone to 1.65 GHz I'm gonna update my sig, in a mo
Rather than recommend a specific ROM; I'll ask what is it you're after aside from what you'd mentioned?
If you want stability, full functionality of expected components, with some cutomizability, then you'll want a ROM with a shorter feature list.
If you're willing to trade of stability to an extent, and accept that everything may not work as expected, then go for a ROM with a massive feature list, and endless customization.
The above are generalizations, but hold true for the most part, with a 4% margin of error 98% of the time.
Each scenario has its trade offs. For the most part there are 2 schools of thought on ROM building for these phones, and 2 schools of thought for what users expect.
AOKP and stable LeanKernel for me. Great battery life, smooth performance. 5 hours with screen on. (I'm CDMA though)
Hello,
G2 owner here, I am considering flashing a new rom onto my not so tech savy friends Desire HD. I'm wondering how good the experience of the JB roms is? On the G2 the roms are unusable but it's certainly not a good experience, lots of random slow downs and lag, plus the camera quality sucks. I'm wondering if that is much the same on the DHD.
Would you flash a JB rom onto your Mum's phone, or would you stick with CM7? Consistent random slow downs / lag plus sub par camera quality isn't acceptable!
Also, if someone has a nice clear guide handy for rooting and installing recovery from 2.3 a link would be appreciated
Thanks!
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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Sorry my bad! I am a G2 owner, but I am looking at flashing a rom onto my friend DHD. -- updated the OP
whilst the jb roms are very stable, i wouldnt recomend them for a complete technaphoab. better safe than sorry.
on the other hand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968854 this is very good, but synergye(lead dev) is focusing more time on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003273 this.
the sense interface is very basic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839004
and if you want the mind numbing simplicity of ios, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991558 (i havent tried this one yet though)
as always, read the threads first
Hard to tell, depends what they use... JB ROMs (and ICS) are really stable. No reboots or crashes. Really. There are small minor bugs, but I suppose most of the people wouldn't notice them, since not all people use all functionality. I.e. I wouldn never notice Bluetooth bug since I never use it, etc.
Now, IMHO, the best combination is JT plus KangBang kernel 1.9 stable. It works great, really smooth and fast. I have really a lot of apps and everything works just fine. With KB kernel, at least on my device, I can overclock to more than 1.2Ghz, i.e. 1.5, and it really works well. 4.1.2 is the best Android for me, fastest. I also have Nexus 7 and now that I have 4.2.1 I see how slower it is compared to 4.1.2. But Nexus is so fast that it doesn't matter. On DHD it might, because it is only single core. I tried CFX also and I had lockups and slowdowns. It is also stable, but would just stop responding for me from time to time.
But all in all I would make a backup of your current ROM (stock) and go for JB/KB combo. The only downside for me is battery life, which is worse than stock, but that doesn't happen on all sets (go figure).
D.