[Q] Tether: Definitive Answer? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

Greetings All!
New convert from a VZW Note 3 to a brand new T-Mo Note 3 I just bought. I have already rooted it.
I have the $80 unlimited plan, which I understand includes 5GB of tether. I need more than that. Mostly as a wifi hotspot, but maybe some USB in a "noisy" area.
I am very familiar with all of the historical methods, including edits on the config files, changing apk files, using third party apps, etc. I am very much an expert on this and definitely not a noob, I just need to know the skinny on how this is done on Magenta.
I just need to know from those who know, what absolutely works and prevents detection, etc. I have seen various things posted, but never seem to have someone state: "This is my method on my rooted phone" and this works perfectly, every time.
Thanks in advance, please advise.
-Rob

Welcome. There are a number custom roms here that provide unlimited tethering. I'm using Effortless and it works flawlessly. Also as I didn't want to take away from the stock experience, its pretty much stock. As to a mod that will do the same, I've yet to see one.

robroy90 said:
Greetings All!
New convert from a VZW Note 3 to a brand new T-Mo Note 3 I just bought. I have already rooted it.
I have the $80 unlimited plan, which I understand includes 5GB of tether. I need more than that. Mostly as a wifi hotspot, but maybe some USB in a "noisy" area.
I am very familiar with all of the historical methods, including edits on the config files, changing apk files, using third party apps, etc. I am very much an expert on this and definitely not a noob, I just need to know the skinny on how this is done on Magenta.
I just need to know from those who know, what absolutely works and prevents detection, etc. I have seen various things posted, but never seem to have someone state: "This is my method on my rooted phone" and this works perfectly, every time.
Thanks in advance, please advise.
-Rob
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I'm on stock 4.4.2.. rooted via towel root and use WiFi tether router and it works fine. Use it with my ps3, smart TV, and laptop.
sent from a Galaxy Note 3 Far far away

Thank you!
Pajar0913 said:
I'm on stock 4.4.2.. rooted via towel root and use WiFi tether router and it works fine. Use it with my ps3, smart TV, and laptop.
sent from a Galaxy Note 3 Far far away
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Hey thanks guys. I forgot to mention I plan on staying with stock (for now). I will definitely check out WiFi Tether Router then. Any way to modify the stock app? Maybe a freeze with Titanium Backup or something?
Looking forward to getting to know the regulars around here and helping out others if I can.
-Rob

robroy90 said:
Hey thanks guys. I forgot to mention I plan on staying with stock (for now). I will definitely check out WiFi Tether Router then. Any way to modify the stock app? Maybe a freeze with Titanium Backup or something?
Looking forward to getting to know the regulars around here and helping out others if I can.
-Rob
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Just looking for an update...did wifi tether root work? Have you found a solution?
thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2825356
[MOD][GUIDES] How To Enable Unrestricted Native | Bluetooth Tethering

robroy90 said:
Hey thanks guys. I forgot to mention I plan on staying with stock (for now). I will definitely check out WiFi Tether Router then. Any way to modify the stock app? Maybe a freeze with Titanium Backup or something?
Looking forward to getting to know the regulars around here and helping out others if I can.
-Rob
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Don't bother staying stock if you want unlimited tether. There's nothing that works right now besides wifi tether router app (requires root) that was mentioned to you or custom roms. Rooting with towelroot does not trip knox and you can revert back to stock if you want with ease. I'm stock rooted and everything works for me, including the use of samsung allshare cast dongle.
EDIT: I think I misunderstood and you meant to say you want to stay stock rooted? Then wifi tether router is your only answer.

do yourself a favor and just buy wifi tether work with bluetooth usb and wifi

byrdtulsa said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2825356
[MOD][GUIDES] How To Enable Unrestricted Native | Bluetooth Tethering
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^^^This works fine on stock...no need for the tether router paid app
aznmode said:
Don't bother staying stock if you want unlimited tether. There's nothing that works right now besides wifi tether router app (requires root) that was mentioned to you or custom roms. Rooting with towelroot does not trip knox and you can revert back to stock if you want with ease. I'm stock rooted and everything works for me, including the use of samsung allshare cast dongle.
EDIT: I think I misunderstood and you meant to say you want to stay stock rooted? Then wifi tether router is your only answer.
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Nope ^^

louforgiveno said:
^^^This works fine on stock...no need for the tether router paid app
Nope ^^
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Thanks for the correction. I should've read through that thread but that's a lot of work. But to the OP, since he is rooted, it may be worth while just spending $2 on an app than go through all that IMO.
More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2659573
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

Thanks all. I did buy the app, but i wonder if that detailed guide posted above works with NF4?

Bump. Anyone?

robroy90 said:
Greetings All!
New convert from a VZW Note 3 to a brand new T-Mo Note 3 I just bought. I have already rooted it.
I have the $80 unlimited plan, which I understand includes 5GB of tether. I need more than that. Mostly as a wifi hotspot, but maybe some USB in a "noisy" area.
I am very familiar with all of the historical methods, including edits on the config files, changing apk files, using third party apps, etc. I am very much an expert on this and definitely not a noob, I just need to know the skinny on how this is done on Magenta.
I just need to know from those who know, what absolutely works and prevents detection, etc. I have seen various things posted, but never seem to have someone state: "This is my method on my rooted phone" and this works perfectly, every time.
Thanks in advance, please advise.
-Rob
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if your already knox 0x1...
u can use my stock odex not rooted rom, I have on my thread, look on the 3 post... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51812491#post51812491
you can use my rom and follow those few steps, and as long as your paying for the unlimited u can download my rom which has a few files edited and fixed for unlimited tethering without no extra app needed, I use the wifi tether app from tmobile, and never have had an issue, and don't have to pay for no apps... it just works..
I use my own roms, and also tested them without root, and have unlimited tethering, I use upto 100 - 160gb a month,
what I do, is make a copy of my original rom, and remove the files I don't want, most of the google files u can download from the play store, I remove them all, so when I flash my nice clean rom, I restore the new updated files with titanium backup and am always upto date with my rom..
just letting you know u have a few options to choose from.. :good:

I bought the app, WHEN IT DID WORK, it worked against the gigs of data supplied by t-mobile. Darkstalker and wicked both provide true unlimited hot spot,bluetooth and usb tether.
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

Perhaps I wasn't being perfectly clear in what I was asking. To help, here is my status:
Knox 0x1
STOCK Rooted NF4
I don't mind using an app that is proven to work, and if I absolutely had to, I would flash a rom.
But, my preference is to remain stock, and use the stock tether app if at all possible. So, my question remains. Those original instructions were written for an earlier version. Even a donation and a personal thanks to Jovy didn't produce a response to the direct question:
Will these instructions work with the stock NF4 Rom?
Thanks!
-Rob

robroy90 said:
Perhaps I wasn't being perfectly clear in what I was asking. To help, here is my status:
Knox 0x1
STOCK Rooted NF4
I don't mind using an app that is proven to work, and if I absolutely had to, I would flash a rom.
But, my preference is to remain stock, and use the stock tether app if at all possible. So, my question remains. Those original instructions were written for an earlier version. Even a donation and a personal thanks to Jovy didn't produce a response to the direct question:
Will these instructions work with the stock NF4 Rom?
Thanks!
-Rob
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The differences in the NF1 and NF4 versions of the particular files referenced in that instructional guide thread were minimal - the same processes outlined there can be done on NF4. The functional outcomes between doing said processes on NF4 should not differ from those seen on NF1. In my experience it seems like outcomes on mods like this can vary in defiance to such logic, but such variance would apply equally between NF1 and NF4 as well - so again the outcomes on the whole should not differ.
I realize this also falls short of the OP's direct question - but if you redefine the question quoted above to be:
Will these instructions work with the stock NF4 rom the same as they did with the stock NF1 rom?
My answer would be:
Yes.

dwitherell said:
The differences in the NF1 and NF4 versions of the particular files referenced in that instructional guide thread were minimal - the same processes outlined there can be done on NF4. The functional outcomes between doing said processes on NF4 should not differ from those seen on NF1. In my experience it seems like outcomes on mods like this can vary in defiance to such logic, but such variance would apply equally between NF1 and NF4 as well - so again the outcomes on the whole should not differ.
I realize this also falls short of the OP's direct question - but if you redefine the question quoted above to be:
Will these instructions work with the stock NF4 rom the same as they did with the stock NF1 rom?
My answer would be:
Yes.
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Good to hear. Thank you for the input. I am not above digging in and getting my hands dirty in the config files, I just wanted to see if someone had done it themselves first and could absolutely verify it works on NF4. I am certainly not afraid to shoot a nandroid backup and then dive right in. I just didn't want to waste the time if there was an NF4 specific issue that had not yet been addressed or was outstanding.

robroy90 said:
Good to hear. Thank you for the input. I am not above digging in and getting my hands dirty in the config files, I just wanted to see if someone had done it themselves first and could absolutely verify it works on NF4. I am certainly not afraid to shoot a nandroid backup and then dive right in. I just didn't want to waste the time if there was an NF4 specific issue that had not yet been addressed or was outstanding.
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louforgiveno wrote:
"So why not dig in and read, you would have found thread in development by jovvy that directly details the steps for NF4 tether.
Sorry for being a ****, but i avoided answering because you seemed like you wanted a quick fix, which leads to abuse, which leads to threads bragging on data use, which ends up with t-mobile changing their practices and effecting everyone. I'll accept that this description is not definitive of you, but your failure to find the answer which is here, yourself categorizes you with that type of user. Lastly consider that by reading threads like this, carriers implement patches to these exploits so the repetitive threads just shorten the time these methods will work."
So then don't be that type of a ****. I didn't want a quick fix. If you notice, I have been a member here since 2006. I am hardly a newb. I wasn't looking for a silver platter, I just wanted to know if there was something specific to NF4 that another had experienced. Why re-invent the wheel?
I am not abusing my plan, not in the least. Thanks for being the data police though.
I donated to Jovvy and thanked him for his efforts, and just asked a simple question. I got crickets in response. Devs wonder why people don't donate...

robroy90 said:
louforgiveno wrote:
"So why not dig in and read, you would have found thread in development by jovvy that directly details the steps for NF4 tether.
Sorry for being a ****, but i avoided answering because you seemed like you wanted a quick fix, which leads to abuse, which leads to threads bragging on data use, which ends up with t-mobile changing their practices and effecting everyone. I'll accept that this description is not definitive of you, but your failure to find the answer which is here, yourself categorizes you with that type of user. Lastly consider that by reading threads like this, carriers implement patches to these exploits so the repetitive threads just shorten the time these methods will work."
So then don't be that type of a ****. I didn't want a quick fix. If you notice, I have been a member here since 2006. I am hardly a newb. I wasn't looking for a silver platter, I just wanted to know if there was something specific to NF4 that another had experienced. Why re-invent the wheel?
I am not abusing my plan, not in the least. Thanks for being the data police though.
I donated to Jovvy and thanked him for his efforts, and just asked a simple question. I got crickets in response. Devs wonder why people don't donate...
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Fair enough. But not being a noob should have led you to taking the 15min it takes to do the mod and test it. You seemed to feel that without having your question answered it might lead to a brick ! At worst you'd tether and it would still show on your account. So yes, maybe i should have left well enough alone, but you also seem to think that a donation entitles you to anything. Devs donate here all the time, have you donated for every item on xda? And my last point, being a member since 06 you should clearly remember a time if you weren't a dev you couldn't post period you read and absorbed info and thanked the holy stars other people were spending time and effort. I'm sure jovvy appreciates your donation, but he doesn't expect it, as you shouldn't expect to be the teachers pet cause you brought an apple.
So there it is, i guess I'm a **** after all.

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[Q] Root Epic 4G touch from Credo Mobile?

I just ordered an Epic 4G Touch from Credo Mobile which should arrive next week. They use the Sprint network and I believe the phone comes from Credo with all of the Sprint apps and bloat. I will want to root soon after I activate it and would like to know the best method to root it and recommended ROM. While i am not a total noob to rooting I would probably need an easy fairly foolproof method (I rooted a Verizon Samsung Fascinate and have installed a lot of different ROMs on it).
One thing people really hate here is when new threads are posted with questions that could easily be answered by doing a simple search. I am not one of those people, just giving you the heads up.
Check the stickies in the dev section, the autoroot is awesome and completely fool proof. I've used it 6 times now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1284
MetalHead,
thanks for posting the link to the stickies. However, there are many, many pages of stickies and I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "autoroot". Can you please be more specific as to what root method you used? Are you referring to the (Zedomax) (ACS) thread? I have not read all 40 pages, but it seems that people are having some issues with this method.
Please help shed some light on which method you used.
thanks,
Neil
I got my phone last night and used the method in this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Seems to work great. Now I have to figure out which ROM I want to use or leave it the way it is.
mobile hotspot
I'm assuming that if you root you can get mobile hotspot to work even though Credo says they don't 'support it'. Correct?
nspeer said:
MetalHead,
thanks for posting the link to the stickies. However, there are many, many pages of stickies and I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "autoroot". Can you please be more specific as to what root method you used? Are you referring to the (Zedomax) (ACS) thread? I have not read all 40 pages, but it seems that people are having some issues with this method.
Please help shed some light on which method you used.
thanks,
Neil
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The stickies are just the first group of threads in a section, they are permanently at the top of the list and are designated by a pin to show that they are "pinned" to the top of the page. The auto root is the first thread there. It is perfectly safe, and very easy. All it is is a simple program you run on your windows machine that roots your phone for you. As I stated before I have used it numerous times without any problems at all. Here is the direct link to that thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
oregondave said:
I'm assuming that if you root you can get mobile hotspot to work even though Credo says they don't 'support it'. Correct?
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The unlocked mobile hotspot as of now requires a custom deodexed ROM to work but you can use Wireless Tether for Root Users for wifi tethering. The downside to that is you can only create an ad hoc network but the upside is it works with 4G whereas the mobile hotspot does not. Here's the link- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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The unlocked mobile hotspot as of now requires a custom deodexed ROM to work but you can use Wireless Tether for Root Users for wifi tethering. The downside to that is you can only create an ad hoc network but the upside is it works with 4G whereas the mobile hotspot does not. Here's the link- [url said:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/[/url]
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custom deodexed rom? What is deodexed?
So you're saying I have two options?
an ad hoc network? What does that mean?
How does this compare to the "portable wifi hotspot" on my LG G2x?
Thanks so much,
David
bump bump bump
Any notable deodexed ROMS?
I was able to install the EK02 modem here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352310 and everything seems to work fine so right now I am downloading this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837 and give it a try. Should be done in a little while and will report back here.
What part of Oregon are you from Dave? I'm in Vancouver, WA
itzbob701 said:
I was able to install the EK02 modem here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352310 and everything seems to work fine so right now I am downloading this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837 and give it a try. Should be done in a little while and will report back here.
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UPDATE - Im restoring all of my apps with Titanium backup right now. Limited messing around with Calkulin's rom and it looks sweet. On my way to donate now!
itzbob701 said:
What part of Oregon are you from Dave? I'm in Vancouver, WA
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That's convenient, no income tax and drive across the bridge and no sales tax.
itzbob701 said:
I was able to install the EK02 modem here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352310 and everything seems to work fine so right now I am downloading this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837 and give it a try. Should be done in a little while and will report back here.
What part of Oregon are you from Dave? I'm in Vancouver, WA
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Nice, Portland sir.
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itzbob701 said:
I was able to install the EK02 modem here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352310 and everything seems to work fine so right now I am downloading this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837 and give it a try. Should be done in a little while and will report back here.
What part of Oregon are you from Dave? I'm in Vancouver, WA
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so are you saying that this combination of radio/rom will get wireless hotspot working?
Basically I just want to confirm that this can be done before I make the switch.
oregondave said:
Nice, Portland sir.
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so are you saying that this combination of radio/rom will get wireless hotspot working?
Basically I just want to confirm that this can be done before I make the switch.
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It works BUT I haven't tried it extensively and I read in one of the threads that at least one person got a popup from Sprint saying that service was not part of their package.
itzbob701 said:
It works BUT I haven't tried it extensively and I read in one of the threads that at least one person got a popup from Sprint saying that service was not part of their package.
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Gotcha. Basically sounds like it will happen. Please let me know how it works.
Hey Itzbob,
I'm about to do the exact same thing - ordered my Galaxy S II epic 4g touch from credo and will get in the next few days, adn thought i'd do some research to see if anyone's done this before - I got the links for the rooting (thanks _MetalHead_), and that seems easy enough. now that it's beedn about a week since you put the new ROM, do you like it? fast? battery life, etc? also, and this is a total Noob question - did you have to do anything with APN settings and the like to get it to work? I come from the iPhone jeailbreaking/unlocking world, and this will be my first root/ and flashing ROM. since I'm gettinga new phone, i'd love to just do this right away, instead of using it, and then wiping off stuff when i flash it.
any advice appreciated!
Sorry for the delayed reply I've been on vacation. As for questions... Battery life is just ok but I am a heavy user. Rooting only without the custom ROM gave me excellent battery life. So far I have also had 2 complete crashes with Calks ROM so make sure you have titanium backup. I wish I knew what caused the crashes, seems like a few apps don't play nice but I haven't been able to pinpoint which ones.
It is fast! Gps, 4G, everything seems to work great.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
itzbob701 said:
Sorry for the delayed reply I've been on vacation. As for questions... Battery life is just ok but I am a heavy user. Rooting only without the custom ROM gave me excellent battery life. So far I have also had 2 complete crashes with Calks ROM so make sure you have titanium backup. I wish I knew what caused the crashes, seems like a few apps don't play nice but I haven't been able to pinpoint which ones.
It is fast! Gps, 4G, everything seems to work great.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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try wifi hotspot?
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try wifi hotspot?
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Have not got around to it yet. I don't need it very often. I will have opportunities to need it in a couple of weeks and will report back
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Update
If anyone is still following this thread... I updated to Calks 2.5.1a Rom, EL13 AND the most important part flashed the Stock Android hosts file from Calkulin http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=772217&d=1320463525
and my phone works awesomely well. I was having freezes and random reboots and the stock hosts file fixed it.
I still havent tested the hotspot but will be next week when i am working in the field and I will report back.
itzbob701 said:
If anyone is still following this thread... I updated to Calks 2.5.1a Rom, EL13 AND the most important part flashed the Stock Android hosts file from Calkulin http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=772217&d=1320463525
and my phone works awesomely well. I was having freezes and random reboots and the stock hosts file fixed it.
I still havent tested the hotspot but will be next week when i am working in the field and I will report back.
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First of all, thank you so much for your posts, they have been extremely helpful to me so far!
My main question for you is: are there no extra procedures or APN settings or anything at all for a Credo Mobile Galaxy S 2 vs a Sprint S 2?
And in regards to your Credo S 2 --If not, can I just run sfhub's One-Click ODIN with the stock EL13 Modem, Kernel, and ROM for the E4GT (rooted), then do option c3 with Auto Root to get CWM, to allow changing to Calkulin's E4GT v2.5.1a ROM and it's kernel, while keeping the stock EL13 Modem? Can you run the 2.6 ROM as well as the 2.5.1a ROM? Any reason not to run the newer one?
Also can you return you phone to returnable stock from it's current state?
Thanks for any help you can provide! What you guys are doing in this thread is like the only source for Credo S 2 info that I am aware of.

[MOD] Enable unlimited USB, Wifi, and Bluetooth tethering.

Hey all. My first mod on the GNII. It's the result of ideas I had (modifying tetheringprovision.apk) and a bud (Electron73) had (modifying framework-res.apk) to restore the innate tethering ability of Android that AT$T loves to nuke for some reason...
The original idea came from Electron's thread post here and seeing as how I just got my new Note II I figured I'd try it out.. Eureka.. It works.
Again as you saw the idea was his.. Just a much cleaner mod that my modded Provision that fooled the simcard.
I've tested it on my device but as usual take the standard precautions... Back up before applying.
My phone is pure stock excluding this mod but I'm sure that'll be changing and I'll keep this up to date as I can.
Good luck and feedback is welcomed.
4Shared link - Flashable zipfile.. I use TWRP but should be fine in CWM.
how to flash
Is this flash-able through Clock work recovery. Sorry if its a dumb question also will ATT see our usage like always and send us nasty emails trying to force us to a tethering plan. thanks in advance for your time and help.
BMEEKS said:
Is this flash-able through Clock work recovery. Sorry if its a dumb question also will ATT see our usage like always and send us nasty emails trying to force us to a tethering plan. thanks in advance for your time and help.
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Yes, it is.
Edited OP to reflect.
There has been much discussion about whether or not they can 'see' tethering. In short if they choose to put the time and effort into it by doing packet analyzation or going back and and looking and your browsing then technically, yes it can always be detected. Just be mindful and don't go crazy and you should be fine. The last 3 devices I've had over 4 years were all modded to re-enable tethering and I've been fine but that's my story. Yours might differ. The main thing I'd suggest is to not go crazy and use 20 gigs of mobile data or something obvious.
I average 2-3 gigs a month regular phone usage so getting closer to the throttle ceiling of 5 shouldn't matter that much.
much appreciated
mostyle said:
Yes, it is.
Edited OP to reflect.
There has been much discussion about whether or not they can 'see' tethering. In short if they choose to put the time and effort into it by doing packet analyzation or going back and and looking and your browsing then technically, yes it can always be detected. Just be mindful and don't go crazy and you should be fine. The last 3 devices I've had over 4 years were all modded to re-enable tethering and I've been fine but that's my story. Yours might differ. The main thing I'd suggest is to not go crazy and use 20 gigs of mobile data or something obvious.
I average 2-3 gigs a month regular phone usage so getting closer to the throttle ceiling of 5 shouldn't matter that much.
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Thank you for your response and great advice it is much appreciated. Have a great holiday.
Just to NOTE. That AT&T Lte data plan & if your on an unlimited plan than your data cap is set to 10 gigs, b4 they slow you down. :what:
But we'll b using this thanx
Side note: when I tethered my Xbox from my phone they sent me a msg telling me about tethering plan. But just for normal use everyone will b ok. I get no msg from AT&T ever!
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i am using Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control rom when I installed this zip. It seems to be working fine, but now the multiwindow function isn't working. Just curious if anyone has this mod working with Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control ROM?
ko0ky said:
i am using Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control rom when I installed this zip. It seems to be working fine, but now the multiwindow function isn't working. Just curious if anyone has this mod working with Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control ROM?
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You mean this rom?
If so, I'll apply the mod to it and post a flashable zip tonight. Will be easy to port..
This is probably the first thing I will flash on my GN2. Haven't seen anything else worth it except multi-window support. I need to tether my 4G with my Nexus 7! Been using FoxFi but prefer the native tethering.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
Hi, first thank you to OP. Can you advise what the advantages are to tethering using this "native" method vs out of the box besides the carrier not knowing you are doing so? It seems like straight NAT but is there a performance gain?
Thanks.
E--Man said:
Hi, first thank you to OP. Can you advise what the advantages are to tethering using this "native" method vs out of the box besides the carrier not knowing you are doing so? It seems like straight NAT but is there a performance gain?
Thanks.
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Thanks Mo for sharing, I have been trying to find a tether that works with the GNII and your solution worked like a champ! I got my GT-8013 Tethered to the phone along with the Two Wifi PS Vita's attached with no issues and working perfectly! Happy Holidays indeed to all!
mostyle said:
You mean this rom?
If so, I'll apply the mod to it and post a flashable zip tonight. Will be easy to port..
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Hi there...I too am on that ROM ...does the link now work on it? Thank you
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E--Man said:
Hi, first thank you to OP. Can you advise what the advantages are to tethering using this "native" method vs out of the box besides the carrier not knowing you are doing so? It seems like straight NAT but is there a performance gain?
Thanks.
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Well..
Performance wise it isn't any different than the out-of-the-box method.. It IS the out-of-the-box method minus the provisioning app that the out-of-the-box method calls to see if you are 'eligible' before it activates tethering.
The gains:
The out-of-the-box method had no bluetooth tethering.. This does.
The install script deletes 'ProvisionManager.apk' and 'ProvisionManager.odex' since they aren't called any longer so.. You gain device space? Though it may be a moot point given the device capacity.
For me.. This is what mattered: This method isn't a hack. Zero chance of breaking something else on the device. Its a step toward making android perform as it was intended before that carriers perform their surgeries on it. I know this one may just be a personal preference but it really REALLY irritates me that American carriers spend time and effort to block features of the device that the device would have innately done before they modified it.
I wont get into a debate of semantics but if I shell out non-contract prices on a device and buy it outright (as I did in this case) I can't for the life of me figure out how the carrier has the right to tell me what features the device can have. They have every right to dictate service plan features but not device features.
Enough rambling. Back to development discussions. (If you wanna reply to my small rant, please, use PM)
Rocket42 said:
Hi there...I too am on that ROM ...does the link now work on it? Thank you
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No. I'll make a mod that does and update the OP with a second link as soon as I finish it.. Stay tuned.
UPDATE: I decompiled the framework-res.apk from this rom. It seems to have the needed edits for tethering to be unlimited. Is tethering missing from that rom? I'm headed out for drinks but I'll flash the complete rom later tonight or tomorrow and test it.
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Hey all. My first mod on the GNII. It's the result of ideas I had (modifying tetheringprovision.apk) and a bud (Electron73) had (modifying framework-res.apk) to restore the innate tethering ability of Android that AT$T loves to nuke for some reason...
The original idea came from Electron's thread post here and seeing as how I just got my new Note II I figured I'd try it out.. Eureka.. It works.
Again as you saw the idea was his.. Just a much cleaner mod that my modded Provision that fooled the simcard.
I've tested it on my device but as usual take the standard precautions... Back up before applying.
My phone is pure stock excluding this mod but I'm sure that'll be changing and I'll keep this up to date as I can.
Good luck and feedback is welcomed.
4Shared link - Flashable zipfile.. I use TWRP but should be fine in CWM.
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Nice job! Thanks for sharing!
wondering if this will work for rogers here in canada
turilo said:
wondering if this will work for rogers here in canada
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Doubtful.
If you want to PM me an email address you can send me your framework-res and I'll attempt to apply the patch.
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Doubtful.
If you want to PM me an email address you can send me your framework-res and I'll attempt to apply the patch.
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ygpm
turilo said:
wondering if this will work for rogers here in canada
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ygpm
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I gave my email to ShadowVlican.. As soon as I get the framework-res from him I'll take a look.
mostyle said:
Yes, it is.
Edited OP to reflect.
There has been much discussion about whether or not they can 'see' tethering. In short if they choose to put the time and effort into it by doing packet analyzation or going back and and looking and your browsing then technically, yes it can always be detected. Just be mindful and don't go crazy and you should be fine. The last 3 devices I've had over 4 years were all modded to re-enable tethering and I've been fine but that's my story. Yours might differ. The main thing I'd suggest is to not go crazy and use 20 gigs of mobile data or something obvious.
I average 2-3 gigs a month regular phone usage so getting closer to the throttle ceiling of 5 shouldn't matter that much.
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i am using Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control rom when I installed this zip. It seems to be working fine, but now the multiwindow function isn't working. Just curious if anyone has this mod working with Modded I317_N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow Control ROM?
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I flashed with the I317_N7105ZHALJ4 and it activated the teathering, WIFI, BT and USB work great as does Multi-window :good:
However, I am not sure what port this teathering uses. In some platforms, the teathering uses a different port number than other general data that apps use. The carriers can then easily scan for data using this port and send you the nasty SMS or just start charging you their tethering fees. But if the MOD uses the right port - the carriers would have no idea.
Anyone know which port I317_N7105ZHALJ4 ROM uses?
This should work with the completely stock cleanrom 1.1.1 right?
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It's what I'm using it on and works perfectly
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[Q] Couldn't establish a secure connection. [SOLVED]

Using the latest rom from Task650 2013.02.23 I'm not able to connect to some secure sites. One example is https://stripe.com/ but there are plenty of others, but no names off the top of my head (just want to point out it's not unique to Stripe, happens with about 1 in 4 sites I've tried to use.) I ran into this quirk with older versions of this rom as well. Happen on a clean install, both stock browser and Chrome.
I'd potentially post in the development thread but where I'm a newbie it won't let me, sorry about that!
Any tips on how I might resolve this would be greatly appreciated. Or if you know where I might look to find a more verbose error log, that would be pretty awesome as well.
Thanks!
Edit: can't explain what happened, but after logging in to a Google Account on the device and installing a handful of apps/updates everything works as expected. Case closed, for now. If I figure out what happened I'll come back to post about it for others who might run into it.
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Using the latest rom from Task650 2013.02.23 I'm not able to connect to some secure sites. One example is https://stripe.com/ but there are plenty of others, but no names off the top of my head (just want to point out it's not unique to Stripe, happens with about 1 in 4 sites I've tried to use.) I ran into this quirk with older versions of this rom as well. Happen on a clean install, both stock browser and Chrome.
I'd potentially post in the development thread but where I'm a newbie it won't let me, sorry about that!
Any tips on how I might resolve this would be greatly appreciated. Or if you know where I might look to find a more verbose error log, that would be pretty awesome as well.
Thanks!
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I'm able to get to the above website, as well as all the SSL sites I visit, credit cards, bank, mint, credit scores, ect.. without fail. I'm also on the 2/23 build from task. when flashing sometimes things can happen like this, even on a clean flash.
You may have to Odin back to stock to do a complete fresh reinstall of tasks ROM.
unrelated, I had to do so with a recent LTE issue that is now fixed.
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RPelham said:
I'm able to get to the above website, as well as all the SSL sites I visit, credit cards, bank, mint, credit scores, ect.. without fail. I'm also on the 2/23 build from task. when flashing sometimes things can happen like this, even on a clean flash.
You may have to Odin back to stock to do a complete fresh reinstall of tasks ROM.
unrelated, I had to do so with a recent LTE issue that is now fixed.
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Thanks for the reply RPelham!
I have jumped back to older versions of the rom but it still happens. I wipe caches, format /system and proceed with a clean install each time. The checksum matches on all files used so I'm relatively sure I'm downloading what's expected.
Your comment about LTE perks my curiosity. Although not on LTE myself, now that I'm home I've I connected to wifi and this issue isn't presenting. The only time I run into problems is when trying to connect to secure sites over cellular data.
My data plan isn't limited or being misused so I don't suspect they've throttled the connection. Not lucky enough to be on any unlimited data plan and no high usage coming from me. No high connection counts... really nothing all that notable. E-mails and calendar sync mostly.
Does Bell muck up HTTPS traffic? I would call them up but I feel tier 1 technical support isn't going to be much help until I narrow it down more.
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I have jumped back to older versions of the rom but it still happens.
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RPelham was referring to going back to stock (TW) and starting over with tasks aokp. that usually resolves almost every issue.
xBeerdroiDx said:
RPelham was referring to going back to stock (TW) and starting over with tasks aokp. that usually resolves almost every issue.
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Oh I see. Perhaps this will sound silly, but how exactly does one do such a thing? Is there a thread somewhere on here with stock Bell I747 roms I can install using recovery?
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Oh I see. Perhaps this will sound silly, but how exactly does one do such a thing? Is there a thread somewhere on here with stock Bell I747 roms I can install using recovery?
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Search for stock firmware in the Android development section. Your bell version will be listed with the others. You'll need odin installed on your pc.
first though before you actually odin stock
Check your date & time setting
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first though before you actually odin stock
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Time and date appear to be accurate. Haven't located the official roms just yet, will poke around and see what's around.
I loaded the stock rom and HTTPS sites works as expected. Rooted again, and installed the latest from Task (2013.02.26) and back to having these connection issues. Going to go post on the development thread, but any tips or ideas more than welcome! Thanks fellas
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I loaded the stock rom and HTTPS sites works as expected. Rooted again, and installed the latest from Task (2013.02.26) and back to having these connection issues. Going to go post on the development thread, but any tips or ideas more than welcome! Thanks fellas
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make sure you did a full wipe before posting in tasks thread. cheers
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make sure you did a full wipe before posting in tasks thread. cheers
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Well he was quick to reply and inform me my carrier is unsupported. Yeesh, like... really quick. You would think he lives here on xda. That aside I decided to try the slim rom and I hit the same issue. So it's not unique to task. However, I'm completely stumped at this point. It would be sweet if the browser would give a better error message! Keeping my eyes peeled for others with the same issue and possible solutions, but thanks again for the advice so far!

[Q] Problem w/hot-spot hack on CM10.1

Subject: Problem w/(4G?)-HotSpot hack on "WILD FOR THE NIGHT" CM10.1-20130316-d710 (base-band version EK02)
So, I was recently *given* a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" (p3113, WiFi only) by a buddy of mine, for helping him out with some significant things in real life. I know right? Very cool of my buddy. I'm in love with the tablet still (honeymoon period). It's not brand-new, but its new to me, so of course the first thing I did was root it, wipe it clean, and install unofficial a CM10.2 nightly build w/working IR from 080913. I'm staying on 080913 build since it's the latest build that supports TabletUI.zip, via Nova Launcher, which I also love by the way. Anyway, this tablet is the PERFECT compliment to my Sprint E4GT "Spider-Man Edition" (cracked screen, long story)
So, this recent tablet acquisition has given me reason to use the hotspot built into CM10.1, on my phone, under "Settings|More|Tethering & Portable Hotspot|Portable WiFi HotSpot. I had assumed up to this point that CM10.1 on my phone had the 4G hotspot hack pre-installed, but alas, when I use it to tether my tablet to get internet access on the tablet, only 3G mobile data appears to be working.
What gives with this? It'd been a while since I've been keeping up with the E4GT ROM/hack scene, so is there some hack zip that I need to install in order to take advantage of tethering and 4G on this ROM? Thanks will be given in multitude for any assistance. Thanks.
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Subject: Problem w/(4G?)-HotSpot hack on "WILD FOR THE NIGHT" CM10.1. tps://www.dropbox.com/s/rwew4y39t3f6pns/wifi-tether-gnex-4.2.2.apkhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/rwew4y39t3f6pns/wifi-tether-gnex-4.2.2.apkhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/rwew4y39t3f6pns/wifi-tether-gnex-4.2.2.apk-20130316-d710 (base-band version EK02)
So, I was recently *given* a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" (p3113, WiFi only) by a buddy of mine, for helping him out with some significant things in real life. I know right? Very cool of my buddy. I'm in love with the tablet still (honeymoon period). It's not brand-new, but its new to me, so of course the first thing I did was root it, wipe it clean, and install unofficial a CM10.2 nightly build w/working IR from 080913. I'm staying on 080913 build since it's the latest build that supports TabletUI.zip, via Nova Launcher, which I also love by the way. Anyway, this tablet is the PERFECT compliment to my Sprint E4GT "Spider-Man Edition" (cracked screen, long story)
So, this recent tablet acquisition has given me reason to use the hotspot built into CM10.1, on my phone, under "Settings|More|Tethering & Portable Hotspot|Portable WiFi HotSpot. I had assumed up to this point that CM10.1 on my phone had the 4G hotspot hack pre-installed, but alas, when I use it to tether my tablet to get internet access on the tablet, only 3G mobile data appears to be working.
What gives with this? It'd been a while since I've been keeping up with the E4GT ROM/hack scene, so is there some hack zip that I need to install in order to take advantage of tethering and 4G on this ROM? Thanks will be given in multitude for any assistance. Thanks.
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I use this when I'm on slimbean or other aosp ROMs..never tried it with cm.. But should work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwew4y39t3f6pns/wifi-tether-gnex-4.2.2.apk. ... You will have to set it up for the epic in its setting.. Then play around with it a little.. I think I posted my settings somewhere.. I'll find the post and link it..
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Here is the link.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375899&page=4 .... Post 34.. Hope this helped..
Edit... finally found out who made this app... TrevE....so thank him if it works for you
This appears to work as you said!! (Thanks given to your reply)
I configured the first option in the settings menu of this app for "Sprint Epic 4G Touch, and also enabled "Access Control" (whatever that means, care to explain that for me?) and, low-and-behold, turning on 4G is no longer ignored by this new hotspot app, like it is by the stock CM10.1 hotspot app. SpeedTest.Net confirms that 4G is actually in use. The differences in speed between 3G and 4G are only marginal at best in many locations, but that is on Sprint's crappy WiMax 4G implementation, and not the fault of the hotspot app you linked me to. With the SpeedTest.Net app, I'm getting about 0.8Mb/s average download speed while sitting at my desk in my office (indoors), when only 3G is enabled on the phone. but I'm getting about 1.7Mb/s when using this newly-suggested hotspot app with 4G enabled on the phone. So clearly it's working, and that that extra 1Mb/s (or sometimes slightly more) can be the difference between smooth video playback on YouTube (or whatever video app), versus frequent pausing for buffering when watching a video link sent by a friend to my phone. It's also makes Google Maps and Google Navigation much faster AND more responsive when I'm on the interstate, where the 4G coverage is generally pretty good here in the DFW area. SO, I'll kjeep you posted if I run across any major bugs,m but this suggestion appears to allow to now tether by tablet to my phone with actual 4G WiMax. Thank you SO much for your suggestions and links!
Your loyal "thanker" from now on,
T
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I configured the first option in the settings menu of this app for "Sprint Epic 4G Touch, and also enabled "Access Control" (whatever that means, care to explain that for me?) and, low-and-behold, turning on 4G is no longer ignored by this new hotspot app, like it is by the stock CM10.1 hotspot app. SpeedTest.Net confirms that 4G is actually in use. The differences in speed between 3G and 4G are only marginal at best in many locations, but that is on Sprint's crappy WiMax 4G implementation, and not the fault of the hotspot app you linked me to. With the SpeedTest.Net app, I'm getting about 0.8Mb/s average download speed while sitting at my desk in my office (indoors), when only 3G is enabled on the phone. but I'm getting about 1.7Mb/s when using this newly-suggested hotspot app with 4G enabled on the phone. So clearly it's working, and that that extra 1Mb/s (or sometimes slightly more) can be the difference between smooth video playback on YouTube (or whatever video app), versus frequent pausing for buffering when watching a video link sent by a friend to my phone. It's also makes Google Maps and Google Navigation much faster AND more responsive when I'm on the interstate, where the 4G coverage is generally pretty good here in the DFW area. SO, I'll kjeep you posted if I run across any major bugs,m but this suggestion appears to allow to now tether by tablet to my phone with actual 4G WiMax. Thank you SO much for your suggestions and links!
Your loyal "thanker" from now on,
T
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Thanks for the kind words... Being able to help someone out is the part I most enjoy about this site.. You can let me know about any issues you have , but just to make sure you know.. This isn't my app.. Just found a drop box link while looking for myself and others and it worked. I'm still not sure who made it..lol. It might say in the app, but I'm not currently using it as I'm on projectX ROM and its tether works great..
Hey there... thanks for the follow-up. Still working like a champ bro, AND it does something else that the stock tethering app doesn't do: it allows the ability to only allow "Approved devices" (by MAC address) to connect, in addition to (or I think even instead of) setting a WPA2 password. It even shows you in the phone's notification bar which approved devices are currently connected, and plays a custom notification sound when an unapproved device attempts to connect. Combine that with a home screen widget for 1-touch toggling, and the MacroDroid app set up to automatically turn on data and 4G when the tether app is turned on, and this is now officially the coolest thing on my phone. I know you didn't create it (nor did you ever claim to), but you did link me to an app that ended up exceeding my wildest expectations. THANK YOU BROTHER.
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Hey there... thanks for the follow-up. Still working like a champ bro, AND it does something else that the stock tethering app doesn't do: it allows the ability to only allow "Approved devices" (by MAC address) to connect, in addition to (or I think even instead of) setting a WPA2 password. It even shows you in the phone's notification bar which approved devices are currently connected, and plays a custom notification sound when an unapproved device attempts to connect. Combine that with a home screen widget for 1-touch toggling, and the MacroDroid app set up to automatically turn on data and 4G when the tether app is turned on, and this is now officially the coolest thing on my phone. I know you didn't create it (nor did you ever claim to), but you did link me to an app that ended up exceeding my wildest expectations. THANK YOU BROTHER.
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I know..its great.. When I found it...it was like finding a lost treasure.. Of course, now I'm on tw..so I don't need it..but you can bet I'll always keep a backup of this app..Thanks for the kind words... You can change the op title to solved. That way others might see it, if they need help or the mod's can delete if they deem it so.. Good luck.
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I know..its great.. When I found it...it was like finding a lost treasure.. Of course, now I'm on tw..so I don't need it..but you can bet I'll always keep a backup of this app..Thanks for the kind words... You can change the op title to solved. That way others might see it, if they need help or the mod's can delete if they deem it so.. Good luck.
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Will this work on a rooted yet stock 4g? FWIW I'm not running Touchwiz I've got Nova.
Thanks as I've got the apk ready to go if someone gives me the thumbs up.
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Will this work on a rooted yet stock 4g? FWIW I'm not running Touchwiz I've got Nova.
Thanks as I've got the apk ready to go if someone gives me the thumbs up.
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It will work..... and you are on touchwiz... you're just using a 3rd party launcher.. (Nova is one of my favorites )...
If you need help setting it up... I linked to my settings above.. you might have to play with it though as you are on tw.. I said I was on tw, but it was a custom rom that was tw based with a 4g hotspots hack... so I didn't need it.. Should work on stock rooted though...
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It will work..... and you are on touchwiz... you're just using a 3rd party launcher.. (Nova is one of my favorites )...
If you need help setting it up... I linked to my settings above.. you might have to play with it though as you are on tw.. I said I was on tw, but it was a custom rom that was tw based with a 4g hotspots hack... so I didn't need it.. Should work on stock rooted though...
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Thanks for that help! I configured it according to the link you posted but to no avail. It says it's running but I can't find the SSID when trying to connect another computer to it. I also don't see the icon on the top of my screen indicating that I'm connected to 3g. Is this app only for 4g?
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Thanks for that help! I configured it according to the link you posted but to no avail. It says it's running but I can't find the SSID when trying to connect another computer to it. I also don't see the icon on the top of my screen indicating that I'm connected to 3g. Is this app only for 4g?
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No... it will work with 3g too.... try playing with the settings... remember, those settings of mine where for an aosp rom (slimbean)...
Also... if you decide you don't like it or can't get it to work... after you delete the app... boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache. This will get rid of the binaries installed by the app.
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No... it will work with 3g too.... try playing with the settings... remember, those settings of mine where for an aosp rom (slimbean)...
Also... if you decide you don't like it or can't get it to work... after you delete the app... boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache. This will get rid of the binaries installed by the app.
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Thanks for all the help! Last night I changed the setup method to Softap for Samsung (master) and actually got the 3g icon to show and I thought it was going to work but I could not find the SSID and there were also errors recorded in the log. I'm at work now in an all metal building and can't get a signal but I will try again and report back. Thanks again!
Oh, and we're sure this setup, if I get it to work, is totally unknown to Virgin? I would hate them to boot me for doing this. (oh, and how ridiculous is it to charge for data that I'm already paying for!?!?) One reason I got the S2 from Virgin online is because it stated wifi tethering as a feature. Nowhere did it say I had to pay for this feature. But that's another story.
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Thanks for all the help! Last night I changed the setup method to Softap for Samsung (master) and actually got the 3g icon to show and I thought it was going to work but I could not find the SSID and there were also errors recorded in the log. I'm at work now in an all metal building and can't get a signal but I will try again and report back. Thanks again!
Oh, and we're sure this setup, if I get it to work, is totally unknown to Virgin? I would hate them to boot me for doing this. (oh, and how ridiculous is it to charge for data that I'm already paying for!?!?) One reason I got the S2 from Virgin online is because it stated wifi tethering as a feature. Nowhere did it say I had to pay for this feature. But that's another story.
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You should be safe from virgin knowing... atleast I've never been caught by sprint or boost..
As for the error's... I always had error's on my setup.. but it worked.. keep trying, I know there is a setup to get ya going...
If you end up not getting it to work.... you could try an app from the playstore... or as a last resort you could flash a custom rom based on tw.. the tw roms have working 4g hacked hotspots.. you would need to change you're apns once you have the new rom flashed so you have data.. no biggy there..
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You should be safe from virgin knowing... atleast I've never been caught by sprint or boost..
As for the error's... I always had error's on my setup.. but it worked.. keep trying, I know there is a setup to get ya going...
If you end up not getting it to work.... you could try an app from the playstore... or as a last resort you could flash a custom rom based on tw.. the tw roms have working 4g hacked hotspots.. you would need to change you're apns once you have the new rom flashed so you have data.. no biggy there..
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I can't get this or any tethering app to work. I've tried modding my build.prop file with the .tether.denied=false item as well - to no avail. I think it's because I'm on IceCream Sandwich??? Anyway, I'm rooted, stock ROM and all I want to do is enable wireless tethering. I really feel no need or desire to install a custom Rom. So, can I do it somehow? I am on the Epic 4G Touch forum, someone has to know.
Also, you mentioned clearing my delvik cache and something else but I have no idea how to do it. I tried installing clockwork mod but I could find no option for the Epic 4G Touch. There was an option to create a backup for the Epic 4G but not the touch. I figured at least if I did this I'd have the option of clearing the cache.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.
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I can't get this or any tethering app to work. I've tried modding my build.prop file with the .tether.denied=false item as well - to no avail. I think it's because I'm on IceCream Sandwich??? Anyway, I'm rooted, stock ROM and all I want to do is enable wireless tethering. I really feel no need or desire to install a custom Rom. So, can I do it somehow? I am on the Epic 4G Touch forum, someone has to know.
Also, you mentioned clearing my delvik cache and something else but I have no idea how to do it. I tried installing clockwork mod but I could find no option for the Epic 4G Touch. There was an option to create a backup for the Epic 4G but not the touch. I figured at least if I did this I'd have the option of clearing the cache.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.
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I see you said that you ( tried ) installing clockwork mod.. so I'm assuming you tried it with Rom Manager... I will say this once.. Do Not Use That To Install Recoveries on this device.. you will end up with a brick...
We have to use Odin,mobile Odin and there is a couple other ways ( involving a terminal emulator ) to install recoveries on this device.. You see.. our kernel's and recoveries are tied together.. So to install a custom recovery, we have to flash/install a custom kernel..
Let me ask you this.. how did you root and what superuser app are you using..
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I see you said that you ( tried ) installing clockwork mod.. so I'm assuming you tried it with Rom Manager... I will say this once.. Do Not Use That To Install Recoveries on this device.. you will end up with a brick...
We have to use Odin,mobile Odin and there is a couple other ways ( involving a terminal emulator ) to install recoveries on this device.. You see.. our kernel's and recoveries are tied together.. So to install a custom recovery, we have to flash/install a custom kernel..
Let me ask you this.. how did you root and what superuser app are you using..
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Yeah, I tried installing it with Rom Manager, I can go ahead and uninstall it then. I rooted using some solution I found online and honestly I don't remember what it was but it was very simple. I am using Superuser 3.1.3 (46). Was that what you were asking??
I really would hate to be one of those people who hasn't done their homework and then expects everyone else to answer their questions - I hate those people. I succesfully installed CM10 to my HP Touchpad so I feel pretty good being able to at least accomplish that feat.
Thanks for your help. Hey I guess if I make a successful backup of how my phone is now, I can play with other roms. Maybe this is the jumping in point for me right here. Thanks!
Now to figure out these damned captcha codes!
CentralVAHere said:
Yeah, I tried installing it with Rom Manager, I can go ahead and uninstall it then. I rooted using some solution I found online and honestly I don't remember what it was but it was very simple. I am using Superuser 3.1.3 (46). Was that what you were asking??
I really would hate to be one of those people who hasn't done their homework and then expects everyone else to answer their questions - I hate those people. I succesfully installed CM10 to my HP Touchpad so I feel pretty good being able to at least accomplish that feat.
Thanks for your help. Hey I guess if I make a successful backup of how my phone is now, I can play with other roms. Maybe this is the jumping in point for me right here. Thanks!
Now to figure out these damned captcha codes!
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Ya.. this could be the start of you loving you're phone again.. :fingers-crossed:
I always suggest new people to read up before doing anything...
Also.. I suggest starting out with the touchwiz roms.. they will be more familiar to new users as well as a little easier to trouble shoot.. I believe..
They also have the better data speeds and the 4g hotspots hack..
Just read up.. if you need any help.. I'm always around.. but first things first.. read up on custom recoveries... once you have one installed with a kernel that will work for you're stock rom you can make a backup... you could make one with another custom recovery/kernel combo, but let's just keep it simple for now.
In rwilco's repo you can find just about anything you need... modems( read about ),kernel/recoveries, and many other things. Just remember and read about the emmc brick bug in ICS..
Being as you are new and not on JB.. a one-click for Odin on windows will be our first step if you choose to proceed. From there you can flash just about anything you want... I can link you to a little guide I put together for a really easy way to flash/install new roms, kernels/recoveries.
Let me know what ya think...
Gil81 said:
Ya.. this could be the start of you loving you're phone again.. :fingers-crossed:
I always suggest new people to read up before doing anything...
Also.. I suggest starting out with the touchwiz roms.. they will be more familiar to new users as well as a little easier to trouble shoot.. I believe..
They also have the better data speeds and the 4g hotspots hack..
Just read up.. if you need any help.. I'm always around.. but first things first.. read up on custom recoveries... once you have one installed with a kernel that will work for you're stock rom you can make a backup... you could make one with another custom recovery/kernel combo, but let's just keep it simple for now.
In rwilco's repo you can find just about anything you need... modems( read about ),kernel/recoveries, and many other things. Just remember and read about the emmc brick bug in ICS..
Being as you are new and not on JB.. a one-click for Odin on windows will be our first step if you choose to proceed. From there you can flash just about anything you want... I can link you to a little guide I put together for a really easy way to flash/install new roms, kernels/recoveries.
Let me know what ya think...
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Thank you for the quick reply. I'll certainly take any info you give me. Like I said, I don't want all the answers, just a point in the right direction and ideas.
CentralVAHere said:
Thank you for the quick reply. I'll certainly take any info you give me. Like I said, I don't want all the answers, just a point in the right direction and ideas.
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Start reading the stickies in the Android development section.. a very good starting point..
Also.. don't worry about asking questions.. we all start out as noobs.. lol. But you have the right attitude..plus.. when you find the answers yourself, I always think they stick better and you also get that feeling of accomplishment. You'll make a good member here with the way you are looking at it... but I also know that when you come to that first flash... it can be nerve racking.. So if you get stuck or not sure where to head.. just hit me up.. Good Luck..
Gil81 said:
Start reading the stickies in the Android development section.. a very good starting point..
Also.. don't worry about asking questions.. we all start out as noobs.. lol. But you have the right attitude..plus.. when you find the answers yourself, I always think they stick better and you also get that feeling of accomplishment. You'll make a good member here with the way you are looking at it... but I also know that when you come to that first flash... it can be nerve racking.. So if you get stuck or not sure where to head.. just hit me up.. Good Luck..
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Okay thanks. I'm still thinking about all of this. I'm thinking I'm not committed enough to do it right now and it may be a case of the cure being worse than the disease. I mean all I really want to do is make wifi tethering work. I'm afraid I don't have the time necessary to tinker with all of this esp since I am very happy with my Android user experience so far with this phone.
Besides the tethering fix, what other benefits would there be to installing a custom rom. Or... what would make a custom rom better than Jellybean? Is installing a custom rom the only way I can backup my current system?
Thanks again though for all of your help.
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Okay thanks. I'm still thinking about all of this. I'm thinking I'm not committed enough to do it right now and it may be a case of the cure being worse than the disease. I mean all I really want to do is make wifi tethering work. I'm afraid I don't have the time necessary to tinker with all of this esp since I am very happy with my Android user experience so far with this phone.
Besides the tethering fix, what other benefits would there be to installing a custom rom. Or... what would make a custom rom better than Jellybean? Is installing a custom rom the only way I can backup my current system?
Thanks again though for all of your help.
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For me.. it's about customization.. Being able to change my status bar( color, transparency, icon, clock position, )..and many other things..
Also... I find that the custom roms are smoother than stock roms...
As for backing up you're system... you can backup you're data on a pc/mac...but if you're wanting to do full system backup's....I think rooting and a custom recovery are the only way to go.. ( but I'm not positive , as I've never looked into it.. )

[Q] To Root or Not to Root: that is the question ;)

First off I am a very experienced modder but what I really want to know is ?
Being in Canada with a Tmobile model will I even get OTA from a different carrier?
When I use Kies to return to factory can I claim for all intents and purposes that it's a 1:1? Or can files, spyware and odd files find there way into areas like preload, efs or other ?
I don't like the look of stock 4.2.2 and miss my cyanogen mod tools...
But Does bluetooth and speaker phone get messed on the s4 with cyanogen mod and all the dev's roms? like it does with SO many other phones ?
And since I pointed that out is there some other weird anomaly that us rooters need be aware of ?
Please respond quick im getting board with stock and your answers could be my freedom :fingers-crossed:
I wont forget to thank those who can help my tough questions..
Yes you can go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
This and many other threads around here with great informations. Just do a search.
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baseballfanz said:
Yes you can go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
This and many other threads around here with great informations. Just do a search.
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Searching can be pointless as many of those questions are unanswered... I wish I could take away points for that answer : Geez
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futiless said:
Searching can be pointless as many of those questions are unanswered... I wish I could take away points for that answer : Geez
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Those questions you are referring to which are unanswered are simply yet to be found.
So perhaps it might be a good idea to post a lot of answers instead of so many questions! LOL
Why the heck do they have a Q and A section if people just sit around and tell other people that unanswered questions are a problem :
Wish people would just add info where requested instead of clogging the thread.... GEEZ people simple questions here :
1) IS THERE A BLUETOOTH/SPEAKER PHONE ECHO in MODDED ROMS WITH THE S4 ?
2) will other carriers transmit the OTA upgrades ? Have they in the past ?
3) After root is there a way to insure 1:1 return of all data to EFS, PREBOOT or other areas that would suggest for some unrooted is better...
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Gotta love the answers so far first response don't ask questions search endlessly, and the second is simply don't submit unanswered questions to Q and A !!!!
HAHA
is there a way to delete sloppy posts ?
I can see your going to get lots of help. LMFAO
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baseballfanz said:
I can see your going to get lots of help. LMFAO
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Or in your case a lack there of. Don't you have something better to do than fill threads ?
The s4 phones have good compatibility so far. Except once you start getting into 4.3 roms, for now, wifi glitches occur.
As far as who gets which updates, i dont think anyone knows yet since it's only been 6 months there is no reliable history to tell. I'm sure you'll get some update but it's not going to be timely and it's not going be frequent.. at best ~4 times for the life of the phone. I say fly solo.
About returning the phone, the only thing u have to worry about is the "knox counter" which isn't included in most roms.
faiyo said:
The s4 phones have good compatibility so far. Except once you start getting into 4.3 roms, for now, wifi glitches occur.
As far as who gets which updates, i dont think anyone knows yet since it's only been 6 months there is no reliable history to tell. I'm sure you'll get some update but it's not going to be timely and it's not going be frequent.. at best ~4 times for the life of the phone. I say fly solo.
About returning the phone, the only thing u have to worry about is the "knox counter" which isn't included in most roms.
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Thanks this is really important and informative info here
though maybe I wasn't properly clear on the 2nd question I have this Tmobile phone (live in Canada and use a tiny provider called mobilicity) when the OTA occurs do they push to me or am I SOL anywayz ?
Thanks for taking me seriously and actually answered questions in the QandA section
Ohh and btw what is this Wifi bug like exactly : serious stuff or minor glitch ?
futiless said:
Ohh and btw what is this Wifi bug like exactly : serious stuff or minor glitch ?
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Wifi just doesnt work. Some people did somethings to have some functionality... but it's not something you want to mess with
You should stick with 4.2 for a couple more weeks until tmobile releases 4.3, then it will be really solid.
As far as OTA, i dont really know because i dont use them. And your case is so rare that i think you shouldnt count on it. Why do you want ota anyways you can flash a new stock ota freely. Those are prominently available on here.
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Wifi just doesnt work. Some people did somethings to have some functionality... but it's not something you want to mess with
You should stick with 4.2 for a couple more weeks until tmobile releases 4.3, then it will be really solid.
As far as OTA, i dont really know because i dont use them. And your case is so rare that i think you shouldnt count on it. Why do you want ota anyways you can flash a new stock ota freely. Those are prominently available on here.
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Is this wifi bug on all 4.3 4.4 roms or are there some working ?
That is a MAJOR glitch BTW I don't think I will Root : which brings me to the second answer I want to stay stock because with no 4.3 (with wifi) what incentive is there to even root ?
Can I use Kies to update without the need of a OTA update once available ?
futiless said:
Thanks this is really important and informative info here
though maybe I wasn't properly clear on the 2nd question I have this Tmobile phone (live in Canada and use a tiny provider called mobilicity) when the OTA occurs do they push to me or am I SOL anywayz ?
Thanks for taking me seriously and actually answered questions in the QandA section
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You have to check for the OTA manually through your settings. If you are on a custom rom or kernel, it won't allow you to update. In that case, you simply Odin back to stock and then go into settings and update. This time the OTA will work.
EDIT: Rooting won't cause problems with your WiFi... It's an inherit ROM bug. Stick with 4.2.2 and just root.
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Just root. You can go back to stock and many cm Roms and aokp work perfect. You can always find what's best for you and sounds like you want to root anyways.
4.3 twiz is the only one with WiFi glitch. Aosp is fine....
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The latest cm nightlies seem like a good fit.
Additionally, I know people are having luck with wicked roms in Canada
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Well right now wifi breaks for everyone but 4.3 is coming to us (the usa tmobile customers) in a week, so you will be able to flash it and have working wifi.
Why wouldnt you root? There is no downside even if u dont want to flash roms. You can have root on ur stock rom and do hundreds of new things. Greenify, xposed, wallet, backups, call recording...

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