Is it possible to s-off hboot 3.16 wihout using SunShine? Just want to get red of that red text. Doing my head in.
Kahun said:
Is it possible to s-off hboot 3.16 wihout using SunShine? Just want to get red of that red text. Doing my head in.
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if u get a whelp message using firewater, sunshine is ur only way to go
S-off with firewater worked fine for me on the AT&T version with 3.16 hboot (before sunshine even existed). As mentioned, you can always try it, as there is no harm in doing so. Worst that will happen is firewater tells you it won't work.
But if you are on AT&T (don't know if other carriers have hboot 3.16) firewater should work fine.
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S-off with firewater worked fine for me on the AT&T version with 3.16 hboot (before sunshine even existed). As mentioned, you can always try it, as there is no harm in doing so. Worst that will happen is firewater tells you it won't work.
But if you are on AT&T (don't know if other carriers have hboot 3.16) firewater should work fine.
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Think OP is from uk, no ATT here mate lol
exocetdj said:
Think OP is from uk, no ATT here mate lol
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No idea, as there is also an Ipswich in Massachusetts, USA. Folks need to be specific (as you have kindly done in your "location") as a great many town names happen in multiple different places (especially UK and New England, USA).
In any case, my feeling is firewater is only patched in later hboots, and any phone with hboot 3.16 will probably work. I can only comment on the AT&T version, since that is what I own.
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No idea, as there is also an Ipswich in Massachusetts, USA. Folks need to be specific (as you have kindly done in your "location") as a great many town names happen in multiple different places (especially UK and New England, USA).
In any case, my feeling is firewater is only patched in later hboots, and any phone with hboot 3.16 will probably work. I can only comment on the AT&T version, since that is what I own.
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It was wierd with firewater, i got my m8 5 days after UK release and firewater would not work on mine, but i have heard it worked with alot of the ATT and verizon models in the US
exocetdj said:
It was wierd with firewater, i got my m8 5 days after UK release and firewater would not work on mine, but i have heard it worked with alot of the ATT and verizon models in the US
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That is strange. Have you seen similar reports from others on your variant?
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That is strange. Have you seen similar reports from others on your variant?
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Yup, alot of unbranded european users got the dreaded "whelp" message whilst peeps in the US were celebrating s off lol
exocetdj said:
Yup, alot of unbranded european users got the dreaded "whelp" message whilst peeps in the US were celebrating s off lol
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Good to know, thanks. I know firewater doesn't work for newer hboots; but wasn't aware that other versions with hboot 3.16 are not compatible as well.
As you already mentioned, the worst that can happen is OP runs firewater, and he gets the "whelp" message. So its worth a shot.
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As you already mentioned, the worst that can happen is OP runs firewater, and he gets the "whelp" message. So its worth a shot.
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true, defo worth a shot
it won't blow up everything like typing google into google does hahahaha
I tried firewater before I posted here and it didn't work. Its Ipswich in UK I'm from.
exocetdj said:
true, defo worth a shot
it won't blow up everything like typing google into google does hahahaha
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I have AT&T variant with 3.16 and it doesn't work. Tried multiple times. That sucks lol
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I'm looking for an old version of firewater to S-OFF my AT&T htc one m8 with Hboot 3.16 and 4.4.2 android some one keeped and archive of this file please ?
youssefz said:
I'm looking for an old version of firewater to S-OFF my AT&T htc one m8 with Hboot 3.16 and 4.4.2 android some one keeped and archive of this file please ?
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That won't work. Firewater was an online service. It stopped working once the dev stopped supporting it in December.
Sunshine s-off is the only current working method.
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im contemplating buying the at&t m8 tuesday on launch day but im worried since i know it will come locked down tight. rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
if not ill wait for root to buy.
Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
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Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
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I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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Original HTC One bootloader unlock was available on day 1 then vanished. I think there are other exploits. I have unlocked the bootloader of almost every Android device I've ever owned (except my Nexus 7 FHD). I *dont* intend on doing that with my M8 unless and until the promised support and updates doesn't materialize. In the best of all possible worlds, someone will come up with a temporary root method so I can at least run Titanium backup.
Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
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Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
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i can confirm s-on
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rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
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Can I get a link to the rumor?
jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Well mine is saying s-on
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Well mine is saying s-on
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
fil676 said:
Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
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S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
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S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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I've never tried Firewater stuff but I would wait to do that, that method hasn't even been tested on the new one...
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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HBOOT: 3.16.0.0000
I tried the temp-root method but it failed running temp-root so I didn't bother executing the firewater command:
error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables.
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i can confirm s-on
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Alright bud
Did you swap out your N3 for this? - I pick mine up in the morning. Hoping it'll be a a quality device, miss my original One
I am switching to T-Mobile and I was wondering if you still have to pay for soff and or would it be possible to get soff the other way I think firewater?
By the way i am getting another m8
25$
Sandman9043 said:
I am switching to T-Mobile and I was wondering if you still have to pay for soff and or would it be possible to get soff the other way I think firewater?
By the way i am getting another m8
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Try firewater first and if that doesn't work then u have to use sunshine.
If you don't get the whelp message on firewater keep trying and it should work.
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Try firewater first and if that doesn't work then u have to use sunshine.
If you don't get the whelp message on firewater keep trying and it should work.
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What is the determining factors for firewater to work? I have givin up on that and I'm not about to pay 25. S off is something I can live without.
chuck24 said:
What is the determining factors for firewater to work? I have givin up on that and I'm not about to pay 25. S off is something I can live without.
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Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725099
It will give u more info.
I know on the m7 it didn't work on phones with emmc 9001 serial. I have got two T-Mobile HTC m8s and firewater worked on both with no problems.
Just flash viper or arhd and try they both have an unsecured boot.img.
And go to the built in superuser app and change settings to apps and adb then try.
If your just gonna flash roms and aren't into development like some then you don't need s-off.
There's a lot of people that don't understand s-off and brick there phones by flashing something that was not for their phone.
So be careful of what you flash if u s-off.
On my m8 my emmc serial begins with 1501.
On play store there's an app called emmc brick bug checker. Use it and it will show you your emmc
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Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725099
It will give u more info.
I know on the m7 it didn't work on phones with emmc 9001 serial. I have got two T-Mobile HTC m8s and firewater worked on both with no problems.
Just flash viper or arhd and try they both have an unsecured boot.img.
And go to the built in superuser app and change settings to apps and adb then try.
If your just gonna flash roms and aren't into development like some then you don't need s-off.
There's a lot of people that don't understand s-off and brick there phones by flashing something that was not for their phone.
So be careful of what you flash if u s-off.
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Thank you for sharing the info... This is my first HTC. Long term Samsung user at first.
Thanks everyone for the information i had the first round of the M8 from Sprint i didn't have to worry about anything but when I get it i try firewater
Hi.
I have a 100% stock one m8. If i now want to root it and install a rom from here, can i than use the RUU from HTCdev.com to make it 100% stock again? Or will it still say tampered and no OTA updates?
Thanks
Those are not RUUs, they are kernel sources.
Only the US versions of the M8 have RUUs.
Oh, is that all? :/
So the only way to get back to stock is installing a stock backup and recovery?
HabueN said:
Oh, is that all? :/
So the only way to get back to stock is installing a stock backup and recovery?
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Yes. That is pretty much the reason why the following thread exists: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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Yes. That is pretty much the reason why the following thread exists: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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Okay. Thanks for the help
redpoint73 said:
Those are not RUUs, they are kernel sources.
Only the US versions of the M8 have RUUs.
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And Canadian.
I actually am pretty sure that all WWE M8s have RUUs.
I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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And Canadian.
I actually am pretty sure that all WWE M8s have RUUs.
I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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Which Canadian versions have RUUs? I haven't seen any, although that of course does not mean that they exist.
The Euro, EMEA versions definitely do not have RUUs; as its a common issue that folks here have trouble and don't have an RUU to fall back on. I've seen very few RUUs, the only ones I've seen are AT&T, T-Mob, and I think Verizon and Sprint, as well as GPE and Dev ED RUUs.
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Which Canadian versions have RUUs? I haven't seen any, although that of course does not mean that they exist.
The Euro, EMEA versions definitely do not have RUUs; as its a common issue that folks here have trouble and don't have an RUU to fall back on. I've seen very few RUUs, the only ones I've seen are AT&T, T-Mob, and I think Verizon and Sprint, as well as GPE and Dev ED RUUs.
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My friend bought an M8 last month as an upgrade to his M7.
He called me about a week and a half ago saying he had got an RUU for his phone and have I ever flashed one.
I said no, I haven't. He said he would just follow the instructions.
I just called him now asking about it, and he said it was for his M7. He's just getting into rooting, and wants to try stuff on his old phone to learn.
So yes, there are no Canadian M8 RUUs. Thanks for correcting me and clearing that up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2911563
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10rdan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2911563
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@redpoint73
I was still mistaken, but there is this.
Yes, but that ruu is only and pure for the people that have s-off ! s-on users with a higher main can't use it as they can't downgrade the bootloader......
Mr Hofs said:
Yes, but that ruu is only and pure for the people that have s-off ! s-on users with a higher main can't use it as they can't downgrade the bootloader......
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Point taken, didn't know if he was goin down the s-off route or not.
Just thought I'd point it out in case he was.
Was just about to post link to your thread as well for stock back ups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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It says right in the thread title, its the zip from the RUU, not an RUU itself. And the fact you probably won't find the RUU itself might mean this was leaked and never officially released.
Its also for an extremely old software version, and as Mr Hofs points out, s-off is required. So there is a good reason folks need to use Mr Hofs nandroid thread.
Hi guys. My m8 was s'onned on 4.4.4 and I'd lost my wifi. So I read somewhere you needed to downgrade and flash the OTA manually and for that I needed s'off. Now I really wouldn't mind paying the devs of sunshine 25$ for s'offing because let's face it, they're awesome and they probably have to charge much more for all the work they put in. But unfortunately for me, I'm a kid in my 12th grade and my dad isn't gonna buy me anything but guides for my studies LOL.
I couldn't use firewater because it said htc patched my device and I was out of luck.
So, on a hunch what I did was I flashed cm 11 and then I tried firewater and surprise!! it worked!! my device was s-off'ed
anyway after that I had to go back to the 4.4.3 stock and then upgrade using OTA and everything was alright.
So what I'm basically saying is if you're a cheap bastard like me and can't pay for sunshine and you love sense, you should try that method above. I can't guarantee it'll work for you but it's worth the try, eh?
Note: Please use the above method only if you cannot pay for sunshine. Plus sunshine is much easier to use and you don't have to go through all this hassle
Note 2: If this topic has already been covered by someone else, please feel free to point out so and close this thread.
Peace
Hello,
Wich Hboot had you before S-Off ?
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Here read this thread. There is NO "trick" to get firewater to work. It either does or does not ! Nothing more .... nothing less
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2923933
When firewater failed the phone was probably not "stock" enough.
aramiss said:
Hello,
Wich Hboot had you before S-Off ?
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I had 1.56
Mr Hofs said:
Here read this thread. There is NO "trick" to get firewater to work. It either does or does not ! Nothing more .... nothing less
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2923933
When firewater failed the phone was probably not "stock" enough.
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Not really. It was closest to stock as possible. I had the stock HTC Indian rom on 4.4.4.
Anyway, maybe I had a lucky device? Just posted this in case it helps someone like it did me.
jdgreat4 said:
I had 1.56
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Hboot 1.56 does not exist. It should be in the range of 3.16-3.19 ?!
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Hboot 1.56 does not exist. It should be in the range of 3.16-3.19 ?!
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Crap, crap, crap sorry. I was confused with my m7. It was on 3.16
jdgreat4 said:
Hi guys. My m8 was s'onned on 4.4.4 and I'd lost my wifi. So I read somewhere you needed to downgrade and flash the OTA manually and for that I needed s'off. Now I really wouldn't mind paying the devs of sunshine 25$ for s'offing because let's face it, they're awesome and they probably have to charge much more for all the work they put in. But unfortunately for me, I'm a kid in my 12th grade and my dad isn't gonna buy me anything but guides for my studies LOL.
I couldn't use firewater because it said htc patched my device and I was out of luck.
So, on a hunch what I did was I flashed cm 11 and then I tried firewater and surprise!! it worked!! my device was s-off'ed
anyway after that I had to go back to the 4.4.3 stock and then upgrade using OTA and everything was alright.
So what I'm basically saying is if you're a cheap bastard like me and can't pay for sunshine and you love sense, you should try that method above. I can't guarantee it'll work for you but it's worth the try, eh?
Note: Please use the above method only if you cannot pay for sunshine. Plus sunshine is much easier to use and you don't have to go through all this hassle
Note 2: If this topic has already been covered by someone else, please feel free to point out so and close this thread.
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How did you get firewater? I thought it doesn't work anymore due to the discontinuation.
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How did you get firewater? I thought it doesn't work anymore due to the discontinuation.
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check his date of posting..... it was still up at that date
Hello XDA.
Here's the thing. I have an HTC One M8 from AT&T which I want to unlock, but also I wanna S-OFF it because I like to play (safely) with it making it a developer edition or even a GPE. The thing is I don't wanna spend much money, so it's unlocking (~15 USD) or S-OFF it (25 USD) and then be able to simunlock it for free with two options so far:
Super CID
Universal SIM unlock
I wanna think the best idea is to purchase Sunshine, S-OFF my phone and then try one of those two options. I just need some feedback from someone who has tried them to ensure they're 100% effective and I wont need to end to purchase an unlock code.
Anyway, thanks in advance and best regards.
Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).
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Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).
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Thanks for answer.
My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
Best regards.
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My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
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That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.
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That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.
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Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.
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Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.
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You're quite welcome; and good luck!
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You're quite welcome; and good luck!
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I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.
alainalemany said:
I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.
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Great to hear. Again, you're very welcome.