Hi,
I am new posting in the forum, i am a defy usser too of course, i bought my defy to another user time ago with CM7
and until now i did not updated as i was a bit scary,
i updated reading the guide and success in first attempt on eerything,
such a difference from 2.3! finnally the scroll works quite smooth between screen, i gues its something already pressent since 4.1 with project butter and so on,
however i must say
1) look like its a bit slower, it reacts a tiny litle bit laggy is show some menus, is not just instant response sometimes, but nothing to really complain a lot it work quite well, Quarx is making such a big effort and time investing in keep our Defy's alive that i just need to mention it and say lottt of hanks,
2º) I bought a Jiayu G2F for my mother (it works damn quick) and it found they added an option to record the radio sound, and i was expecting to find such options also available in 4.4 but i did not, its there any way to record radio sound or maybe add this option to future versions?
3º) I was a bit scared to update to 4.4 due the fact that usually new O.S. ask for heavy resources, but after read that 4.4 was supossedly more optimized for low hardware, then i tought it should maybe even take less ram than andoird 2.3, and now that i have it installed i see it takes quite a lot, its over 4XX mb with almost nothing opened, is that normal?
4º) What about the option to select in the screen the zone you want the camera to focus? i found its pressent in the G2F mentioned above, and i dont find it in the 4.4, is the hability to focus determined zones of the camera something just possible in case that the camera hardware allow it? or its a software related function?
5º) I installed kitkat with minimal gapps, and once verything working i installed google voice, but i still don't success to add the microfon in the keyboard in order to write anywere while talking,
well, in fact i did, as when i press "," keyabord it appears a pop up menu with the microfon but it just dont work when i select it that way
in cm7 i remember to have a dedicated button that always worked andi miss it, maybe some one can help me there
6º) If i have the config menu opened and then i open the top bar slide down menu and i change some option from there, like enable bluetooth, i close the slide menu and i see in the config menu that the button is still "off"
i must close and open again the config menu in order to see it "on" if i enable it from the other menu,
could be nice to make it auto to update so everything takes works and updates at same time and avoide confusions,
thanks
While trying to check all the new options i see, i just found a bug in the stock launcher,
looks like its called Trebuchet,
If you open the launcher options and lick in the 3 dots over "Widgets" you get some extra options to play with
if you select "CM HOME" in the 2º option, the launcher will enter in the loop hope of errors and will not allow you to come back,
you must go to applications and search for "Trebuchet" and then press "remove data" of this application,
it will come to alive again,
can anyone confirm this bug? i did not find it in the bug list and i am not allowed to post in the developers forum yet
spalnndsstest said:
While trying to check all the new options i see, i just found a bug in the stock launcher,
looks like its called Trebuchet,
If you open the launcher options and lick in the 3 dots over "Widgets" you get some extra options to play with
if you select "CM HOME" in the 2º option, the launcher will enter in the loop hope of errors and will not allow you to come back,
you must go to applications and search for "Trebuchet" and then press "remove data" of this application,
it will come to alive again,
can anyone confirm this bug? i did not find it in the bug list and i am not allowed to post in the developers forum yet
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It was confirmed a week back, but not yet added to the buglist.
how its possible android or cyanogenmode still got lack of a feature to record calls by default?
the new options menu to touch camera settings is something related to 4.4 or to CM11 ? its so unconfortable as you can't go back to change other options, it force you to re open it again, its minimallist and compact, but no sense to have such minimalist menu for an option that always end up removed to make the foto,
i also feel the battery drains quicker with 4.4 that with 2.3
In my opinion the CM7.2 is the most stable ROM for Defy, the CM1x are still under development
yes it was working more quick everything,
not smooth, was jerky but at least moved over menus and open applications quite a bit more quick,
thats sad, i expected better performance in newer versions,
overall... there is not any way to make the defy run as it should, it more powerfull than my old celeron 500 mhz and is not yet enough for move android... i guess theproblem is the software, like always, if anroid were programed in ASM, everything would fly... no need for quad cores, octa cores and so on...
I'm not sure that newer version could be faster. Newer version have more and more functions, more advanced GUI, more features - but CPU/GPU/memory remains this same, old one..
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Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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Would be good to move this thread to ROM section so more members can see it
AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)
mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too
Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.
anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...
overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.
Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?
haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.
penguinjet said:
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo
I was wondering if there is a way to use either volume button as a shutter while in the camera app. I've been looking around in the forums but I've only seen threads about using those buttons as power buttons.
Thanks
Retro camera in the market can do it.
this was fixed with style before the evo came out
Dude fx camera zoom is a beast I have been using it it let's you remap any keys or even take it via audio command but in full quality 8mp plus it wouldn't be " fx camera" without some sick fx... UI is great got the volume keys on mine doing zoom with voice activated timer so I could still take the pics really just a whole lot of options bought it 2 years ago on the g1 and a hidden gem of an app
This is already available via the Camera Zoom FX app on the market. Not free, but is there. However I have found that it is buggy as hell.
Bugs I have noticed:
1. Pictures won't save. It's like they are stored in the cache. You take a picture, go to gallery to view it and it won't be there. If you reboot the phone it will be.
2. The "FX" don't always work. There are several effects that come stock with the app. They frequently don't do what they are supposed to or won't load at all. I have found that you can exit the program via the back buttons and then start it again to get the FX to load, but even that has stopped working.
3. It actually asks you to download Task Killer the first time you open the app. Going on about camera apps using memory and all. So in other words it has a memory leak and instead of fixing it they want you to manually kill the task.
It does what some in this thread are asking for. However I wouldn't suggest you buy it.
And can I get a mod to verify my account so I can post faster than every 5 minutes... getting this message:
To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
Wish granted!
I was bored this morning. So i decided to make one... for free! (Also no ads!)
It's called: "Simple Cam" made by Insanity Systems on the android market. (unfortunately i can't post the link because i'm a new user it seems... if anybody's kind enough to do so in a reply i would appreciate it!)
it's 15k in size (and i think most of that is the PNG icon to be fair).
Super simple to use: Volume up to take a snap; Volume down to set the flash.
Saves pictures to sd card in folder "cameraPictures".
ENJOY!
P.S. Have a go at the other apps as well maybe you'll find something you like.
taranasus said:
I was bored this morning. So i decided to make one... for free! (Also no ads!)
It's called: "Simple Cam" made by Insanity Systems on the android market. (unfortunately i can't post the link because i'm a new user it seems... if anybody's kind enough to do so in a reply i would appreciate it!)
it's 15k in size (and i think most of that is the PNG icon to be fair).
Super simple to use: Volume up to take a snap; Volume down to set the flash.
Saves pictures to sd card in folder "cameraPictures".
ENJOY!
P.S. Have a go at the other apps as well maybe you'll find something you like.
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Market link
http://market.android.com/details?id=simplecam.insanitysystems.com
also, this feature is a part of cm7 already
I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.
Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
CSharpHeaven said:
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly
kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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rogier666 said:
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.
If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.
The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.
Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.
EDIT: This thread has gone dead, updated the title as it also applies to the most recent version of the ROM. Still looking for answers on the questions in bold format. Especially the last one - about the radio version, as the rest really is about features in the ROM. Thanks!
Hi,
This is my first post in these forums, so I hope you'll bare with me. I am trying to stick to the rules, and have searched a lot for answers, but still have some questions. I really appreciate this forum, and I can thank you for my phone not being totally outdated (Thanks HTC...)
First of all I want to say thank you for a great ROM! I can't post in the official thread just yet, but hopefully I will get there soon.
I have a few issues/questions/suggestions though:
- Both in v.6, 6.5 and 7 I get an error when enabling notifications in facebook. After a minute or so I get a notification that fb notifications have been disabled because my phone doesn't support push-messages. But I'm sure it does, cause I get push notifications from other apps. Without this function the fb app loses half of its value. Solved
- My phone automatically reboots when I try to access soundhound from within the fm-radio, is anyone else experiencing this? Is there a fix?
- I've seen this posted before,but have yet to find an answer. Although enabling arrow keys for the keyboard this will only enable them on the English keyboard. Could you please be so kind and add this option for the other languages as well? Would be great if you could just choose "enable arrow keys", and this would then be on all keyboards.
- It would be great being able to zoom in/out in the camera appwith the volume buttons. This used to be standard in the official ROMs.
- I saw someone in the official thread saying that you could pull down the notification bar when the phone is locked. I actually had it the same way, but just now found out that there wasn't actually a real screen lock enabled. Yes, I got the pattern screen every time I unlocked the phone, but then realized any pattern would be accepted. When I configured a new screen lock in the settings it was no longer possible to pull down the notification bar when locked =)
- Is it okay to batch restore all apps and system settings in Titanium backup when you upgrade to a new version of the same ROM, or do I have to do each one manually? I'm not sure exactly what all the 200+ items change, so it's kind of hard selecting them. Any tips&tricks on this would be much appreciated (Links etc. too).
FYI: I am using a Desire HD, full wiped and installed the ROM, but am using RADIO 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M. The reason I never changed this is because I didn't experience most of the issues others were describing in the official thread. Could any of my problems be caused by this? And would there be any huge advantages to changing Radio? Also - and this might be a stupid question, but please forgive me as I am really new to this stuff - Is the BeastMode Kernel automatically flashed with the ROM?
Thanks in advance!
I have had some of the problems you have listed above and it's all down to restoring via Tibackup (I learnt the hard way!)
I just checked mine and I can pull down the notification bar when locked, so it does work (I have a lock screen pattern enabled). Unfortunately when doing a batch restore it messes up the phone's ID in some way, so fb thinks your phone isn't a DHD and hence cannot handle push notifications. You may even find if youlog into google play on a pc that it says 'device not found' or 'incompatible device' when looking to install apps.
Right, this is what you need to do.
1. Do a full backup via Tibackup
2. Boot into recovery and execute factory reset
3, Install Sabsa Prime 7 (perform full wipe)
4. install TiBackup
5. Restore all app and data (NOT system data) - this can be a batch restore
6. Select backup/restore (middle tab) and from the list, restore contacts, messages, people, dialer storage (most of the ones highlighted in green).Remember data only.
Now you will have all your apps restored and your latest contacts and messages. You can also restore bluetooth pairings, wifi and even settings.
You will need to set your homescreens again but everything should now work.
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated
I really don't care much about whether I can pull down the notification bar when locked, or not. I just noticed I could do it until I changed the lock screen pattern.
Thanks a lot for your detailed advice on the other stuff! I'll definitely try it when I have a little more time to spare.
I still wonder about the arrow keys though, because they are only on the English keyboard (I'm pretty sure it was that way even before I restored apps and settings). And of course being able to zoom with the volume keys would be great.
This might be a noobie question, but is "2. Boot into recovery and execute factory reset" really necessary? What's the difference between this and a full wipe?
2. Probably isn't necessary, but it's a habit of mine before installing a rom as early versions of Sabsa Prime didn't have the option in installer, infact there was no installer!
As for the arrows, download SwiftKey keyboard, best keyboard I've seen, has many languages and arrow option.
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bluetooth issue
hi i install the sabsa prime rom v7 but i have a issue whit the bluetooth, my bletooth device is a sonyericsson mw 600, i can connect and the music sound for the bluetooth but the audio of the calls don't sound for that , but the call controls in the bluetooth work's fine, if could tell me how i can fix that i wil be so grateful.
sorry my bad english
thank's to all
Ok, cool. Thanks bob!
Tried Swiftkey (and Go and some other wellknown keyboard) a while back. Like the keyboard, but the auto-correct for Norwegian was really poor. The standard keyboard has by far the best recognition of words that I have experienced.
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Followed your instructions when flashing the new v8.5, and it has fixed the issues I experienced with fb =)
But the phone still reboots when I try to use soundhound from within the fm radio-app (but not with another radio, like the TuneIn Radio)...
Would love an answer regarding the Radio-version too (Never mind the question about the Kernel, figured that one out).
Shouldn't it be pretty easy to include the arrows for all languages, not only for the English keyboard? This is a function I really miss badly, makes things so much easier..
@Jaune: Sorry, I have no idea..
Still in v.9 the arrow keys only work for the English keyboard. Is there any way to implement this also for other languages?
And I see everyone is talking about a camera 4.2 - search xda. Well, I have searched and searched and can't seem to find it..
Found this though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867966.
Any thoughts on using this with Sabsa Prime v.9?
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Here you had me thinking I had finally gotten a reply
Duplicate of what? JUANES101 question?
This guide was designed for S10 series, but the majority of the Guide of course is applicable to all android Pie devices as if based on apks and adb debugging, you shall test at your own desire. For adb debugging to be enabled, go to: About Phone > built number > tap until you unlock "developers option" go back and and inside "developers options" enable "adb debugging" from there.
First and foremost, I would like to express how I am amazed with the level of customization you can do without root on a Samsung nowadays, as I've been an android/samsung user for quite some time its really something to consider.
Okay, now lets cut the chase. What I really did is to put together different applications, tips and miscellaneous information together in order to achieve what I felt the most customized Device possible without root and that I think lots of users could still absorve all or at least part of this guide in their own devices.
1) First, what I did what to go through the Battery Optimisation Guide by @Corv0, which honestly speaking led me to an average of 9-10 SoT.
1.1 Even though people talk alot how they liked OneUI I cant change from Nova Launcher, its simply the ultimate Launcher experience. I recommend getting the prime version, totally worth it and you get it for life.
1.2. If you are used to Adway, you know we can't live anymore without it, but in times without root, Blokada is for me the best alternative. I also found it better and more stable than Adhell and does not need key update every now and then, thats lame!
2)If you like music and once used Ressurection Remix roms, you must have fallen in love with Pulse music bar. It simply reinvigorates the navigation bar. As an alternative I must suggest the well known Navbar app. For me its a must to change navigation bar color and enable their music visualizer.
3) If you once used xposed in a samsung, you might remember the Samtweak, and now you can have it in Pie without the need of root with great function like 180 degrees reverse (which I find very useful when using headphone jack so it does not bother you against the chest for instance), volume warning, navigation and status bar hide, etc
4) Another must in S10 plus is to use Button Mapper. Some may talk about Bixby Action app, but Button mapper is the ultimate deal with many more options, check video link.
5) Okay this is more of a personal preference, which is my case I can say: sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't. If you didn't like/ didn't get used to the front camera cutout I strongly suggest to use Status Bar and change status background color to black. I find it do the job of hiding the front camera pretty decent and improved a lot indoor and low light experience as you cant see the cutout almost never.
6) Last (so far) but not least important, if of course the installation and usage of Nice Lock (for the ones without access to Good Lock). I think we may can it as an official customization app for samsung devices. It almost made me remember Rice tweaks app. I personally like to use 7.1) Task Changer mod to change recent apps back to vertical. 7.2) Navistar to fully customize the navigation bar with different icons and 2 more buttons. The rest I didn't really use it but I suggest you install them all and see what's useful to you.
I will record a video and post it here (probably tomorrow) to show all these changes and tweaks I did and how they actually appear on my device.
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Actually these are "tweaks" I had already done before v1 but simply forgot to mention on the original post however to keep things in order I will continue the numbering:
7) Bloatware removal, this is another must you have to do, specially when talking about samsung, with is known for the amount of apps its included from stock. And within this link you can easily do it through adb shell. Big thanks to @Neo3D for this amazing guide.
7.1) Once you "debloat" your device, make sure you deinstall/deactivate youtube standard version as well, and install the well known and amazing Youtube Vanced (Non Root version of course). In addition, set it as standard so it will be fully integrated to the links.
Well those are my suggestions for the customization of s10 without root (so far). If you have more tips please comment down below.
Video is up, check comment for exact cue by "tweak": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_giH6O6-Pdo
Great guide for the S10 XDA gang! Kudos
Nice guide.
Thanks
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Doesn't bloat removal cause more battery drain? I mean when the phone tries to find a certain package and cannot it is starting to heat up and etc
I started out early in the process and I was able to get Adhell running .... Seems like maybe my battery was worse after Adhell. Wondering if you guys thought, based on this guide, I should get rid of Adhell and go more this direction (for ad blocking and app/bloatware freezing) ?
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Doesn't bloat removal cause more battery drain? I mean when the phone tries to find a certain package and cannot it is starting to heat up and etc
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Should be the other way around bro...
jcrompton said:
I started out early in the process and I was able to get Adhell running .... Seems like maybe my battery was worse after Adhell. Wondering if you guys thought, based on this guide, I should get rid of Adhell and go more this direction (for ad blocking and app/bloatware freezing) ?
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I tried both and found blokada much more stable. You can try and compare yourself, its way easier to install and get it running as well.
Also, using Blokada and it works well...
Knox bloatware removal
if the s10+ com.samsung.android.knox.containercore isn't installed at 0 then how can I remove the number one bloatware I so desired to remove?
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if the s10+ com.samsung.android.knox.containercore isn't installed at 0 then how can I remove the number one bloatware I so desired to remove?
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Search Cswm app manager (for Samsung) on play store
Good!!