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If you go to a website with an embedded youtube video, the video won't show up unless you have flash lite turned on, which is awful quality.
Now afaik on other android phones, and indeed the iphone, if you go to a website with embedded youtube videos they show up in h.264 format, without the need for flash. Why has HTC disabled this? (or am I missing something)
Let me try this again in a while (on YouTube) but I have definitely watched flash vids within the browser many times (not on YouTube that I recall though). Poor quality at best, very grainy.
I haven't tried playing YouTube directly within the browser to date simply because I like it opening in the YouTube app better (I get the option to choose this).
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you're missing something.
most phones get redirected to m.youtube.com
some sites are still using flash 9, which flashlite can play.
if a site is using flash 10, then you're ****ed because flash 10 is only in beta and only on 2.2
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
You probably have to find a way to remove Flash Lite completely.
Or maybe you wait until there's a Froyo ROM available within a few days/weeks or so and flash this, to get the full Flash 10.1, which should work much better than Flash Lite.
shaundalglish said:
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
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I'm assuming the normal plugin is where it redirects YouTube URLs to the YouTube app? Because that's the most frustrating part about this flaw!
Yes normal is the redirection to the Youtube app.
It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
I would prefer it to load the h.264 video by default, because it's always going to perform better than flash, no matter how hard adobe tries.
YouTube embedded vids are an exception for me in so far as not playing embedded, many other site vids are doing so in decent quality (as relative as that is). Indeed, tricking the browser and YouTube to think it's a Desktop or iPhone accessing it is simple as well as showing the Desktop view, but then, you'll just see a black area where the vid would be with a message by shockwave that "this type of content is not supported". It won't play which is odd for me due to other site vids at higher quality that do play.
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It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
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Doing such a tap provokes the browser to give me the option of either playing the vid using the YouTube app or using HTC Flash app.
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Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
Suggestion:
Go to www.youtube.com/html5 and signup.
Make sure you're signed in on youtube.com on your mobile.
Try it now.
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I use Xscope and Dolphin... they don't allow such embedded video through browser viewing on YouTube.
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pascanu said:
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I could, but I don't really want to install another browser just to watch YouTube videos when I happen to come across one.
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
Dunbad said:
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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You can on the iPhone, the videos show u exactly where thy are embedded, nd then you tap them and they play.
Its stupid because so many websites use h.264 video now, which android does support, yet we can't watch them.
Not sure I follow.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
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The issue here is samac92 wanting YouTube videos to play embedded in the browser like his iPhone did, without using flash, which they don't. I have no issue with the default actions.
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Embedded in the browser? The iPhone can't do that.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
Embedded in the browser?
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Then it's likely that I misunderstood what he is saying.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
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What exactly changes if using HTML5 in the context of the video itself?
The stock vids the Flash app plays on YouTube are in FLV mostly, right? But when you download those vids, it offers the H.264 MP4 files. Does HTML5 allow the better H.264 MP4 vid file to be played in the YouTube app through streaming?
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Is there an app? Or do you have to use the touch Youtube site?
from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.
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from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.
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I just read on Wikipedia it will run it in a sort of media player app, but they state that Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the way so this could be improved, or hell, there is the possibility updates will bring Youtube apps and better support.
There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.
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There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.
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Chances are that Google are already working on an application for YouTube.
App in Marketplace that plays Youtube over 3g is craptastic, horrible quality over 3g. Seriously over 3g the quality is worse than on a Blackberry. WTF MS?
Microsoft doesn't own YouTube, so I dunno why you're asking them.
And the quality is probably poor because it's playing 240 or 360p version of the videos instead of HQ.
That's why Google needs to release a YouTube App.
Microsoft has more important things to worry about, like, the actual operating system.
The youtube experience on WP7 is amazing.. its the first phone i ever used that didn't require a full fledged app. I sort of like it that m.youtube.com works out of the box and there isn't "an app for that" - with that being said, people are free to use the youtube api and make their own apps and google may do just that. However with m.youtube.com the quality for me is amazing. I don't watch it over 3g since AT&T rapes us with 3g bandwidth costs but over wifi the quality is beautiful. M.youtube.com also works with your login id so you can easily play your favorite and surf the website. It isn't a pretty package, but hell, sometimes its better that the web integration works this well rather than waiting for a required app
Apparently the youtube app adjusts the video settings if not on wifi. Which doesn't make sense since my 3g connection can more than handle youtube....
Maybe contact the developer and see if we can get settings adjustments.
edit: nevermind, it lists microsoft as the developer so I guess maybe an update will help?
Ok I am using the Dophin Mini browser and I have set the User Agent to Desktop. When I go to bbc iplayer website, and go to view a show in high quality mode, it plays ok, but I am getting some stuttering.
When I go to play a HD video from the iplayer website, it is like watching a slide show its that slow.
So how come I can watch 1080p videos on youtube just fine, but I cant watch bbc iplayer videos.
How do you change the User Agent setting on the standard browser, as I believe that is GPU accelerated so I should be able to play bbc iplayer HD videos fine?
I don't think it is related to this site or the user agent that's not "gpu accelerated", the whole browser is hardware supported but there is some streaming players that are more optimized than others on the 3w. For now I only have a galaxy S and with the default browser I can watch 480p youtube videos just fine but I low quality videos stutter on some other sites like engadget, so I guess it's the same thing that happens to you.
And btw what's the point of watching 720p or 1080p videos on a 480p screen ?
Just stick with the resolution that you can watch it will be well enough I think. just my 2 cent
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I don't think it is related to this site or the user agent that's not "gpu accelerated", the whole browser is hardware supported but there is some streaming players that are more optimized than others on the 3w. For now I only have a galaxy S and with the default browser I can watch 480p youtube videos just fine but I low quality videos stutter on some other sites like engadget, so I guess it's the same thing that happens to you.
And btw what's the point of watching 720p or 1080p videos on a 480p screen ?
Just stick with the resolution that you can watch it will be well enough I think. just my 2 cent
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But watching the HD videos I do notice a difference in quality, there is less artefacts. Anyway even playing in standard definition I am getting a bit of stuttering.
And surely all flash videos should perform the same, my theory is because BBC Iplayer is using higher bit rate would that cause problems?
I think its all in your head, but anyways, opinions are opinions. Higher bitrate, maybe, who knows. And the issue for the UA string in the standard browser has been addressed atleast two times, so please search wisely next time. You change the UA string by typing in about:useragent
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I think its all in your head, but anyways, opinions are opinions. Higher bitrate, maybe, who knows. And the issue for the UA string in the standard browser has been addressed atleast two times, so please search wisely next time. You change the UA string by typing in about:useragent
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Ok changed the user agent thank you.
And I have three options for watching iplayer. I can either watch in mobile mode, which significantly degrades video quality. I can watch it in desktop mode on low quality mode, and believe me there is a DIFFERENCE in quality between the two. Or I can watch it in HD mode, but I agree there wont be much difference between HD mode and low quality.
Still getting stuttering even in Low quality desktop mode.
Yeah I've noticed this as well. Kinda surprised as I thought the phone would be able to handle iplayer HD or even standard considering it plays 1080p youtube videos in browser without any trouble. The only one that works in the browser is the mobile version.
I also tried using the iplayer app my phone came installed with and medium and high quality are both a bit laggy whereas low quality is fine
Iplayer is just as juddery using the iplayer app
I would be very interested in finding a fix for this, as the iplayer app is unwatchable on this phone, stuttering constantly. Even when connected to fast wifi / adsl. The quality also seems to be heavy on artifacts.
Why aren't more people complaining?
I've just loaded the KF3 firmware and iPlayer still stutters.
I'm surprised there hasn't been more flak generated by this. Maybe it's because I'm in a small minority of SGS2 owners affected?
Are there owners out there with a completely smooth BBC iPlayer experience?
Not for me ;-<
It's really annoying - anyone know how to solve this ?
Hi all, first question. I have switch from iphone and the Xperia Play is my first venture in to Android territory. One of the main things I liked to use my iphone for was watching web videos on Chinese sites like pptv.com, tudou.com, etc...
I am living in China and youtube is blocked here, otherwise I would use it for that too.
Anyways, I have noticed that watching videos using flash on these sites kinda stinks, there are flash ads in the way of the video, the buttons are extremely tiny, so going into full screen is a hassle, and to top it off the quality of the picture is choppier and jaggy.
On the iphone I just push the Play icon and a nice looking video pops up, full screen with simple controls and buttons that are big enough for my thumb.
I have tried using Boat Browser and Dolphin HD, and disabling flash, to see if the HTML5 version of the video will load instead, and have a more mobile friendly video experience, but when trying to load the video I either get a notification to install flash, or a "This video cannot be played" message.
Are there any apps or browsers that give a more iphone-like web video streaming experience on a Xperia Play?
oh if you need to know I have a stock (not rooted) Xperia Play R800i running Android 2.3.4, Kernal Version 2.6.32.9-perf build number 4.0.2.A.0.42
To go full screen just press the flash video for a couple of seconds. As for the tiny buttons, you'll have to get used to that :/
That's it?
Darn it. Just have to deal with flash, eh?
Although I enjoy all the things I can do with my new phone, it's kind of a bummer that I cannot tweak it to have that nice web video experience I had with my iPhone.
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Try to use the Skyfire Browser.
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Try to use the Skyfire Browser.
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That browser is interestingly different, to say the least. And sometimes it even skips those annoying ads that go with the flash videos on the sites I frequent. But it is a little buggy, and not really the iPhone-like experience I was hoping for.
IPhone integrates QuickTime media player with the browser to play video from these sites, correct?
I don't suppose there are combination of browser, media player and codecs I can use for a similar experience, is there?
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I like to use the "Watch Later" feature that Youtube has, but since I updated to JB and Flash was replaced for HTML5 in Chrome, there's a new (and simpler, VERY simpler) youtube design for their embedded videos. I can only advance forward,back, pause, and fullscreen. The watch now icon no longer is there. I also can't seem to click on the title of the video which would usually open the video again but on youtube's site.
Anyone else notice these issues also?