[Q] iphone-like web video experience? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, first question. I have switch from iphone and the Xperia Play is my first venture in to Android territory. One of the main things I liked to use my iphone for was watching web videos on Chinese sites like pptv.com, tudou.com, etc...
I am living in China and youtube is blocked here, otherwise I would use it for that too.
Anyways, I have noticed that watching videos using flash on these sites kinda stinks, there are flash ads in the way of the video, the buttons are extremely tiny, so going into full screen is a hassle, and to top it off the quality of the picture is choppier and jaggy.
On the iphone I just push the Play icon and a nice looking video pops up, full screen with simple controls and buttons that are big enough for my thumb.
I have tried using Boat Browser and Dolphin HD, and disabling flash, to see if the HTML5 version of the video will load instead, and have a more mobile friendly video experience, but when trying to load the video I either get a notification to install flash, or a "This video cannot be played" message.
Are there any apps or browsers that give a more iphone-like web video streaming experience on a Xperia Play?
oh if you need to know I have a stock (not rooted) Xperia Play R800i running Android 2.3.4, Kernal Version 2.6.32.9-perf build number 4.0.2.A.0.42

To go full screen just press the flash video for a couple of seconds. As for the tiny buttons, you'll have to get used to that :/

That's it?
Darn it. Just have to deal with flash, eh?
Although I enjoy all the things I can do with my new phone, it's kind of a bummer that I cannot tweak it to have that nice web video experience I had with my iPhone.
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Try to use the Skyfire Browser.

nenobr2 said:
Try to use the Skyfire Browser.
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That browser is interestingly different, to say the least. And sometimes it even skips those annoying ads that go with the flash videos on the sites I frequent. But it is a little buggy, and not really the iPhone-like experience I was hoping for.
IPhone integrates QuickTime media player with the browser to play video from these sites, correct?
I don't suppose there are combination of browser, media player and codecs I can use for a similar experience, is there?
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apps for watching online

hi im just wondering if there are any apps that can play videos online like programs from here http://freedocumentaries.net
coreplayer maybe?
any others? thanks
If you want to watch the movie online, try Skyfire! It's definitely not very smooth, but AFAIK it's the only possible way to watch Flash 8 and higher content...
Thanks.. Ill install in now
agreed on skyfire but there are some others, this is what you should know.
skyfire - connection to a remoe pc running firefox, so works well but is a camera on a webbrowser! lol
iris browser - open source webkit, i like this for youtube and stuff like that which is embeded on sites, also allows for other flash things.
pie6, if you have a custom rom, u might get this, something like dutty, it works but OMG how slow it can be, sucks the life out of your processor.
these are just the ones i have used before, but i cannot talk about opera and flash, as ive never really had it work, other then just on basic flash presentations.
theres always iplayer via opera

Why can't we watch youtube videos in the browser?!

If you go to a website with an embedded youtube video, the video won't show up unless you have flash lite turned on, which is awful quality.
Now afaik on other android phones, and indeed the iphone, if you go to a website with embedded youtube videos they show up in h.264 format, without the need for flash. Why has HTC disabled this? (or am I missing something)
Let me try this again in a while (on YouTube) but I have definitely watched flash vids within the browser many times (not on YouTube that I recall though). Poor quality at best, very grainy.
I haven't tried playing YouTube directly within the browser to date simply because I like it opening in the YouTube app better (I get the option to choose this).
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you're missing something.
most phones get redirected to m.youtube.com
some sites are still using flash 9, which flashlite can play.
if a site is using flash 10, then you're ****ed because flash 10 is only in beta and only on 2.2
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
You probably have to find a way to remove Flash Lite completely.
Or maybe you wait until there's a Froyo ROM available within a few days/weeks or so and flash this, to get the full Flash 10.1, which should work much better than Flash Lite.
shaundalglish said:
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
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I'm assuming the normal plugin is where it redirects YouTube URLs to the YouTube app? Because that's the most frustrating part about this flaw!
Yes normal is the redirection to the Youtube app.
It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
I would prefer it to load the h.264 video by default, because it's always going to perform better than flash, no matter how hard adobe tries.
YouTube embedded vids are an exception for me in so far as not playing embedded, many other site vids are doing so in decent quality (as relative as that is). Indeed, tricking the browser and YouTube to think it's a Desktop or iPhone accessing it is simple as well as showing the Desktop view, but then, you'll just see a black area where the vid would be with a message by shockwave that "this type of content is not supported". It won't play which is odd for me due to other site vids at higher quality that do play.
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It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
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Doing such a tap provokes the browser to give me the option of either playing the vid using the YouTube app or using HTC Flash app.
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Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
Suggestion:
Go to www.youtube.com/html5 and signup.
Make sure you're signed in on youtube.com on your mobile.
Try it now.
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I use Xscope and Dolphin... they don't allow such embedded video through browser viewing on YouTube.
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pascanu said:
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I could, but I don't really want to install another browser just to watch YouTube videos when I happen to come across one.
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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You can on the iPhone, the videos show u exactly where thy are embedded, nd then you tap them and they play.
Its stupid because so many websites use h.264 video now, which android does support, yet we can't watch them.
Not sure I follow.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
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The issue here is samac92 wanting YouTube videos to play embedded in the browser like his iPhone did, without using flash, which they don't. I have no issue with the default actions.
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Embedded in the browser? The iPhone can't do that.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
Embedded in the browser?
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Then it's likely that I misunderstood what he is saying.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
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What exactly changes if using HTML5 in the context of the video itself?
The stock vids the Flash app plays on YouTube are in FLV mostly, right? But when you download those vids, it offers the H.264 MP4 files. Does HTML5 allow the better H.264 MP4 vid file to be played in the YouTube app through streaming?
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[Q] Video playback issues - kit kat 14.4.A.0108

Hi,
I am having serious issues playing videos on the device. The stock players (photos and movies apps) won't play anything I get through whatsapp (mostly sent from iOS devices), many vids from YouTube, nor the sample videos which were pre-loaded on the phone (?!?).
I downloaded MxPayer and VLC, which mostly solved the problem, but I'm still having problems with the YouTube app. In case it helps, here is an example of a video I can't watch (my one-year old's favorite): http://youtu.be/VMl0GbiVEyA.
The phone is brand new, arrived 4 days ago. I'm running the latest firmware (Kit Kat, build 14.4.A.0.108), which the phone prompted me to install. It is not rooted and I hope to keep it that way, at least for a while.
Any ideas? Is anybody else experiencing this?
Thanks!
vlc
anabellita said:
Hi,
I am having serious issues playing videos on the device. The stock players (photos and movies apps) won't play anything I get through whatsapp (mostly sent from iOS devices), many vids from YouTube, nor the sample videos which were pre-loaded on the phone (?!?).
I downloaded MxPayer and VLC, which mostly solved the problem, but I'm still having problems with the YouTube app. In case it helps, here is an example of a video I can't watch (my one-year old's favorite): http://youtu.be/VMl0GbiVEyA.
The phone is brand new, arrived 4 days ago. I'm running the latest firmware (Kit Kat, build 14.4.A.0.108), which the phone prompted me to install. It is not rooted and I hope to keep it that way, at least for a while.
Any ideas? Is anybody else experiencing this?
Thanks!
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I use vlc as only videoplayer (deleted all others), vlc plas all videos for me. The video you mentioned I can't see here in Germany due to copyright issues.
Thanks, but what about YouTube? How do you force the YouTube app to use VLC as the default player?
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Thanks, but what about YouTube? How do you force the YouTube app to use VLC as the default player?
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i use firefox as browser and use youtube from there. I don't use the the you tube app.
Ah, ok. Well, if anybody has a solution, that would be great. I really like using the app, would be a shame to have to use the browser.
I'd do full wipe of the Phone and start over by flashing a ftf. Z1 Compact Resource Thread -|-Rooting-BL Unlocking-Firmware & More...
Thanks, but as I said, not rooted, and trying ypto avoid going down the road of endless tweaking and customization.
I downloaded a few alternative YouTube players, and they all work fine. I'll choose one and see how it goes. Want to know if I can go " average Joe stock" user this time around.
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Thanks, but as I said, not rooted, and trying ypto avoid going down the road of endless tweaking and customization.
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You don't need to be rooted to flash your Phone, the flashtool would be pointless otherwise. Install the flashtool, flash a ftf, done, it's as simple as that.

[Q] Poor Video and No Flash Player ability

My Tab Pro has poor quailty when playing some videos (not all) usually live streaming but some video playback. Lots of horizontal lines and overall bad quality. Its bad enough that I cant watch a movie. This wasn't always the case but started about a month ago. Also, I'm not able to view any website videos that use Adobe Flash Player, no matter if I'm on IE, Chrome, Dolphin, whatever. I checked with the website and my isp and they're both telling me it's my device that is the problem. I've only had this tablet for 8 months, how can this be???? Am I missing something?
You have to google adobe flash for 4.4 (don't have a link, sorry) . Then use dolphin browser and make sure is is set to appear as a desktop. This is the only browser I have found to work with Flash. Post back if you need more explicit instructions.
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Yes, I found a YouTube video a few weeks ago that walked me through this process and it worked for awhile ...but then one day...poof....no longer worked...I hit the blogs and read that there was an update that came through that disabled something a having to do with disabling Adobe Flash Players that were downloaded manually??? I really don't understand, but it made sense that whoever had an android 4.4 and above could not use Abode Flash Player. My daughter just purchased a tablet and had the same exact experiences at the same time as me, so it seemed to be true. I'm just looking for an answer for my Galaxy Tab Pro.
Flash player is still working just fine for me in dolphin. Also as a flash browser Puffin browser works with all flash content ive come across with no trouble whatsoever.

YouTube app amazing, embedded videos not so much...

Since the most recent OTA YouTube videos played in the YouTube app are nothing short or miraculous. HD video loads almost instantly and rarely stutters or lags. Sadly, embedded videos don't enjoy the same performance. They can take a long time to load, hang, stutter and sometimes lock up the whole browser.
Any ideas on what is happening here and how to improve it? This device is clearly capable or impeccable streaming. Where is the bottleneck?
* I am using latest version of Dolphin Browser which will play embedded Flash. Of course problem could be Dolphin itself or Flash version they are using.
P.S. Is there an app which will allow us to automatically start any embedded YouTube videos in the YouTube app as opposed to the YouTube web page?
As a kind of sidenote to this I'll bring your attention to the Flipboard app. It's great for reading any genre of news you set it for, and it's smooth as silk to skip through its pages, I only use it for 'android news' really. But you can also have one of it's feeds as your YouTube account, all your subscription videos, favorites etc are there (only thing you can't do is search). To me it's an even better experience than the YouTube app itself, it looks a lot more polished with better presentation. It's well worth a try.

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