If you go to a website with an embedded youtube video, the video won't show up unless you have flash lite turned on, which is awful quality.
Now afaik on other android phones, and indeed the iphone, if you go to a website with embedded youtube videos they show up in h.264 format, without the need for flash. Why has HTC disabled this? (or am I missing something)
Let me try this again in a while (on YouTube) but I have definitely watched flash vids within the browser many times (not on YouTube that I recall though). Poor quality at best, very grainy.
I haven't tried playing YouTube directly within the browser to date simply because I like it opening in the YouTube app better (I get the option to choose this).
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you're missing something.
most phones get redirected to m.youtube.com
some sites are still using flash 9, which flashlite can play.
if a site is using flash 10, then you're ****ed because flash 10 is only in beta and only on 2.2
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
You probably have to find a way to remove Flash Lite completely.
Or maybe you wait until there's a Froyo ROM available within a few days/weeks or so and flash this, to get the full Flash 10.1, which should work much better than Flash Lite.
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It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
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I'm assuming the normal plugin is where it redirects YouTube URLs to the YouTube app? Because that's the most frustrating part about this flaw!
Yes normal is the redirection to the Youtube app.
It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
I would prefer it to load the h.264 video by default, because it's always going to perform better than flash, no matter how hard adobe tries.
YouTube embedded vids are an exception for me in so far as not playing embedded, many other site vids are doing so in decent quality (as relative as that is). Indeed, tricking the browser and YouTube to think it's a Desktop or iPhone accessing it is simple as well as showing the Desktop view, but then, you'll just see a black area where the vid would be with a message by shockwave that "this type of content is not supported". It won't play which is odd for me due to other site vids at higher quality that do play.
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It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
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Doing such a tap provokes the browser to give me the option of either playing the vid using the YouTube app or using HTC Flash app.
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Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
Suggestion:
Go to www.youtube.com/html5 and signup.
Make sure you're signed in on youtube.com on your mobile.
Try it now.
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I use Xscope and Dolphin... they don't allow such embedded video through browser viewing on YouTube.
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pascanu said:
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I could, but I don't really want to install another browser just to watch YouTube videos when I happen to come across one.
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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You can on the iPhone, the videos show u exactly where thy are embedded, nd then you tap them and they play.
Its stupid because so many websites use h.264 video now, which android does support, yet we can't watch them.
Not sure I follow.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
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The issue here is samac92 wanting YouTube videos to play embedded in the browser like his iPhone did, without using flash, which they don't. I have no issue with the default actions.
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Embedded in the browser? The iPhone can't do that.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
Embedded in the browser?
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Then it's likely that I misunderstood what he is saying.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
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What exactly changes if using HTML5 in the context of the video itself?
The stock vids the Flash app plays on YouTube are in FLV mostly, right? But when you download those vids, it offers the H.264 MP4 files. Does HTML5 allow the better H.264 MP4 vid file to be played in the YouTube app through streaming?
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Hi, just got my Desire
My problem is that I can remember seeing in videos about Android (or was it the iPhone?) that when I click on a Youtube link the Youtube app opens and I can rate the video etc and then return to the website.
But on my Desire the Youtube website opens and I have to click on the video and the "HTC Flashplayer" plays the video in bad quality.
Other example: On a website is the Youtube Player embedded and I click on the video. Again, the HTC Player opens and plays the video in bad quality. Now I have no chance to get to the Youtube site and rate or comment the video.
When i disable flash support the video isn't avaible at all. Is it possible to link the youtube videos to the Yutube app? I think I missed a checkbox or something... When I found a video I will post it here. Thanks for your help
Yep I posted a thread saying exactly the same thing a while ago, sadly there isn't anything you can do about it, it's one of those stupid decisions HTC have made.
If you root your phone and install froyo 2.2 however, videos will play from websites in the youtube app. But as soon as you install flash 10.1 beta you're back to the same problem, where it forces you to use the flash player instead of the excellent quality h.264 version. (in fact flash 10.1 beta is probably even worse than flash lite right now for playing youtube videos.) However if you do load up the flash version on froyo then tap on it, it does give you the option to open in the youtube app, but you have to load up the flash version first before it gives you the option.
When I disable flash in the options I doesn't see the video at all And in the options the HTC flashplayer say that he is 'No standard app' ("Kein Standard").
Isn't there a registry (coming from WM ) or something like that?
The only way for you to get such an option is to use a non-default browser. Like Dolphin HD. Using that, you do get such options when a YouTube link is clicked. Tragic decision by HTC, no doubt (although I don't have your limitation, oddly).
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Hello.
I had the same problem (search the forum) but updated to latest Rom. Am using debranded Orange phone with T-Mobile sim card. Did OTA update, then WiFi stopped. Then installed full Rom using goldcard, didn't even get asked for a simunlock code (had used one previously). Now working! YouTube opens on clicking a link like on the Hero. Like it should.
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@th3: Will try this. Is there a favourite browser (Dolphin HD?) like Opera on WM?
@Splather: Which ROM are you using now? Is Flash on other websites working? Is HTC Sense integrated? Are all other functions working?
Am I right that I don't need a goldcard with a unbranded phone?
EDIT: Okay... At the moment I got a system update from HTC...
EDIT2: Puuh...Wi-Fi still working =D
Looks pretty friggen good. This is just part of the news with the announcement of the final tools being available.
They took an interesting route with YouTube. You use the browser to find the video and then it pops up a YouTube plugin/app automatically that plays the video.
You can see the other ones in action here (scroll down a bit).
It looks ok.
Don't see what's so interesting about youtube, I thought every OS except WM did that?
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It looks ok.
Don't see what's so interesting about youtube, I thought every OS except WM did that?
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There really isn't anything interesting other than it's there. People were questioning it and saying it wouldn't come because it hadn't been shown off yet. It was one of the knocks on WP7 in the reviews of the preview/dev release.
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It looks ok.
Don't see what's so interesting about youtube, I thought every OS except WM did that?
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I have a youtube client on my MW phone.
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I have a youtube client on my MW phone.
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I do too but it doesn't launch when I tap a video on a web page, I have to launch it separately and enter something to view it. In web pages I just have built-in Flash videos, which are very awkward to control. I very much prever external viewing.
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I do too but it doesn't launch when I tap a video on a web page, I have to launch it separately and enter something to view it. In web pages I just have built-in Flash videos, which are very awkward to control. I very much prever external viewing.
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True this would probably be alot more efficient.
Btw, I read somewhere in an RSS feed I can't easily locate that it's not a YouTube app, the browser simply launches videos in the video player. Using iPhone now I totally don't get what the fuss is about flash support as ios handles most videos on the web, not just YouTube. Maybe if I played flash games I would miss something.
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I have a youtube client on my MW phone.
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I meant the clicking on a video in your browser part.
When I click a link mine asks:
Browser
Youtube
Skyfire
And
Would you like to set a default?
What about videos that aren't from YouTube?
Then youtube doesn't show up in the list.
And you have to watch the video in the browser?
Nope, I can chose how I would like to view it.
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I do too but it doesn't launch when I tap a video on a web page, I have to launch it separately and enter something to view it. In web pages I just have built-in Flash videos, which are very awkward to control. I very much prever external viewing.
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On my WM 6.5.3 I tap a video on m.youtube and it launches the native device player.
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Nope, I can chose how I would like to view it.
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Which, excluding the YouTube application means the browser and skyfire (another browser).
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On my WM 6.5.3 I tap a video on m.youtube and it launches the native device player.
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Yes, I know about m.youtube. It doesn't have all videos though.
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No, skyfire has a video player.
I have just installed Skyfire Browser (beta) from the Market and the sites that crash for me using the Android built in browser are fine in Skyfire, ie BBC , sites that embed justin.tv videos.
i mainly use flash to watch football and the framerate is superb using Skyfire.
Hope this helps some people on here.
So you don't have todays Flash 10.1.95.1 update skewing the comparison?
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So you don't have todays Flash 10.1.95.1 update skewing the comparison?
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No........... but ive just installed it and my usual sites are still crashing with the stock Android browser and fine with Skyfire
Here's a test then. How many embedded videos can you see and playon this page with the Skyfire browser? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9004741.stm
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Here's a test then. How many embedded videos can you see and playon this page with the Skyfire browser? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9004741.stm
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I clicked your link and it crashed
and even worse the sites which were ok for my about 10 minutes ago now crash!!!!!!
what have you done?
got it working again after uninstalled/reinstalling.
this is weird as the football videos on the scottish premier league section of the BBC website play fine.
I have the "Enable plug-ins" option set top On-Demand and when i try your link i do not even see a box where the flash videos should be.
If i set "Enable plug-ins" option to "always on" and try your link then the browser crashes.
Thanks for trying and persisting
It's pages like that giving us weird problems, like crashes, lag, no embedded video showing, etc.
There should be two Flash vids on that page to play. I too have plugins set to on-demand and if I change it to Always on, then try that page -> crash. I don't know what it is but it is limited to a few sites in my case so it doesn't bother me as much.
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Both of them crash when watching flash video, does flash 10.1 fix this?
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same **** man....browser crashing here on bbc football.
fixed the crash by setting plug-ins to on demand but still some missing videos.
tried dolphin browser too but same problem
I find a youtube tool for windows phone 7. It is called 'SuperTube'. It can let you browse High Definition (720P, 360P) and download the videos from YouTube
Here is the link to download the trial version.
http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=5bc89d4e-c54e-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
fscode said:
I find a youtube tool for windows phone 7. It is called 'SuperTube'. It can let you browse High Definition (720P, 360P) and download the videos from YouTube
Here is the link to download the trial version.
http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=5bc89d4e-c54e-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
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Thanks! Super app, it even has 720p videos!
Thank you so much for this one! Sweet!
Oh such a pity I can't buy apps.
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Oh such a pity I can't buy apps.
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if you do not have a credit card check: ht tp://ww w.mywirecard.co m/pl/index.html
The Trial is full featured, and has ads only in the menu (not in the videos), but you can download and keep only 3 videos per day, so no restrictions on the streaming.
For those wondering, the app uses the 360P and 720P MP4s used by Youtube, downloads them, and plays using the phone codecs directly (although the player has a different UI).
This is similar to, say KeepVid or KeepTube in its extraction of Youtube videos.
The quality was awesome. The UI of the app, not so much.
Double Posted for some reason. :/
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The Trial is full featured, and has ads only in the menu (not in the videos), but you can download and keep only 3 videos per day, so no restrictions on the streaming.
For those wondering, the app uses the 360P and 720P MP4s used by Youtube, downloads them, and plays using the phone codecs directly (although the player has a different UI).
This is similar to, say KeepVid or KeepTube in its extraction of Youtube videos.
The quality was awesome. The UI of the app, not so much.
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Oh lol, so you say the limitation is for 3 videos PER DAY?
I will try it than.
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Oh lol, so you say the limitation is for 3 videos PER DAY?
I will try it than.
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As far as I know, there are NO limitations on viewing videos. But if you want to actually keep it, then there are 3...per day. Need to confirm this though for myself.
nope its not 3 per day, it just state I reached my download limit for trial...
I downloaded this, good find, thanks
It's very good, but would be awesome if it linked into your Zune library (i.e. the videos downloaded appeared in Videos), but I'm not sure if that's possible or not...
The trial is 3 vids total. Figured I'd better buy it in case it gets pulled from the Marketplace
What can we do with it?
Places like Vimeo won't let you see html5 video without detecting a specific browser. I believe youtube works the same way.
It seems like there is plenty of html5 content, but that it doesn't show if it doesn't recognize the browser.
what can we do more with html5? does it more faster?
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What can we do with it?
Places like Vimeo won't let you see html5 video without detecting a specific browser. I believe youtube works the same way.
It seems like there is plenty of html5 content, but that it doesn't show if it doesn't recognize the browser.
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indeed I also tried it on YouTube but it defaults back to the mobile website. Html 5 is quite useless now for the most popular video websites it seems.
you also tried changing the ie9 to "desktop"?
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you also tried changing the ie9 to "desktop"?
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I totally forgot about that setting.
I changed it to desktop, enabled HTML5 on YouTube, and guess what, it started working just fine.
Update: I now realize that it doesn't work on all the YouTube videos, as I am guessing only a portion of them playback in HTML5. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it told me I needed Flash. Go figure.