Is there a way to TEMPORARILY disable the proximity sensing of the double-tap wake feature of LG G3?
What I want is to be able to wake the phone and unlock it while the phone is in a transparent case (waterproof bike mount, armband, etc.). The phone currently thinks that it is in the pocket and does not wake on double-tap on the screen.
The power button is in the center of the back of the phone which makes it hard/impossible to reach/find when in such a case/armband.
Is there a hidden setting or an app that will make this possible? And once more - I need this for temporary situations when riding a bike. After riding a bike i'd like to re-enable the proximity sensing for pocket carrying.
sstundzia said:
Is there a way to TEMPORARILY disable the proximity sensing of the double-tap wake feature of LG G3?
What I want is to be able to wake the phone and unlock it while the phone is in a transparent case (waterproof bike mount, armband, etc.). The phone currently thinks that it is in the pocket and does not wake on double-tap on the screen.
The power button is in the center of the back of the phone which makes it hard/impossible to reach/find when in such a case/armband.
Is there a hidden setting or an app that will make this possible? And once more - I need this for temporary situations when riding a bike. After riding a bike i'd like to re-enable the proximity sensing for pocket carrying.
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Cut out a small hole in the plastic right where the sensor is. That's how I solved the same problem.
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Cut out a small hole in the plastic right where the sensor is.
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"waterproof bike mount" :good:
Automaton locker might have a setting that will help you.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=aky.akshay.coveralgorithm
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The OP has probably solved his problem in the meantime. I had much the same issue, and I wanted to share what I did.
Firstly, yes, there is a way to "disable" the proximity sensor: just cover it with something that a) does not emit, and b) does not reflect IR light. Because of a), a finger does not work, but a piece of black sticky tape does. If only the right of the two little lenses is covered (that is the IR LED), the ambient light sensor even continues to work.
Of course, putting on some sticky tape whenever I use my G3 in the bicycle-mounted case is not the ideal solution. So I experimented with sticking the tape to the inside of the case. That did not work too well, because the front of the case is flexible and never lies flush on zthe screen. I ended up putting some thicker, spongy rubber there.
All this was with Rixen & Kaul's Phonebag M, which otherwise worked very nicely and allowed me to use my previous phone for navigation even in the most torrential rain.
But that spongy rubber blob made the touchscreen more difficult to use, as it lifted the case's transparent front even further away from the screen. So I kept looking, and bought Topeak's new Drybag 6.
It's a bit too big for an L3, but the Drybag 5 seems to *just* be too small - you'd probably get an L3 in there, but not out again. So the size 6 is the better choice. The interesting thing is that Topeak seems to use a different material for the transparent front: it seems to reflect IR light a lot less than the Phonebag's, so I can switch on my L3 almost every time (I'd say, 95% of my attempts worked). I will keep testing it for a few more weeks.
Two other things I find nice about it: the bicycle mount doubles as a belt clip, and it has a ziplock-style - um - ziplock, so it's probably not just resisting rain and sweat, but really waterproof. When I closed the ziplock, it was air-tight.
What I don't really like about it is the flimsiness of the mount - even the screw is plastic, and the case has a lot of play in the mount. I don't think, though, that it can fall out, even on bad roads.
Hope I could help someone.
Cheers
Daniel
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Hi
Got my TP2, not sure you are having the same strange thing like me.
When I take out my TP2 from the magnet pouch, it will turn on itself.
I know you might think i accidently pressed some button... .. so i do a test and turn off my TP2 as usual and then just move my pouch back and fort next to my phone, and it turn on again.
Now I have to use a non-magnetive pouch.
Do you having the same experience?
Like old crackberrys when taking out of the belt clip it turns on...
wierd...never heard of it
confirmed here to...
i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.
faria said:
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i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.
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Ha! so Funny!!!
Maybe it is good too, beside you going to turn it on anyway when you took it out from your pouch :> ... So it turn it on for you.
Agreed, undocumented feature.... hahahahahahah
I've also noticed this but I'm not using the magnetic case as I need a belt clip, I'm using the old case from my Tytn2 which has a velcro closure. I also thought it was a clever feature like the way the light sensor turns off the touchscreen when you hold the phone to your ear when in a call.
Here is a video of this phenomenon
http://www.vimeo.com/5063985
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http://www.vimeo.com/5063985
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Nice magic but mine doesnt hv that undocumented feature..
confirmed ...
great feature! ;-)
Good. I am not alone.
I think I have this figured out.
I think the keyboard uses a magnet to detect when it is deployed, and that is what is being tripped by the cases' magnetic clasp.
After playing about with the case, trying to find all the ways to turn my TP2 on with it, (never turns on inside the case, mine is nowhere near as magnetic on the inside as it is on the outside) i found that the magnet can also rotate the screen disabling the onscreen input at the same time, just like when the keyboard is deployed.
If my theory is correct, then if you can find a way to disable the power on with keyboard slide (has anyone figured this out already?) then your problems with the case should be solved.
Or you could try and demagnetising the magnet a bit, perhaps your magnet is mega-powerful and thats why its able to trip the sensor while inside the pouch.
Same kind of problem here, that keylock opens when device it put to holster. And I have got couple of "angry" calls about "can't you use the keylock".
Luckily this "slide to unlock" keylock works little better, but still isn't the best solution.
Woohoo! Mine does it too!
Strangely though, it does seem to happen on my friends Vodafone branded TP2...
Oh, and off course the "nicest" thing is, that puches that came with TyTN2 and Touch Pro2 (and TyTN, if I remember correctly) contains magnets that open keylock/turn power on. Maybe there should have been little more thinking/hardware testing when that kind of accesories are decided to put in package.
And otherwise Touch Pro2's pouch is pretty useless, because it doesn't have belt clip, and it's "too thick" (compared to eg. Nokia's E71 pouch) to use with phone just in pocket.
Whoaa.. mine does too..
Just curious, try to enable the sliding sound, And you'll notice that when you put magnet on it, the sound plays.
Maybe the magnet triggers some sort of keyboard sensor..
anyone knows how to keep the phone standby even if the keyboard is opened?
Mine does not switch on when I take it out of the pouch. But it does switch on when I wave the pouch over the bottom corner like in the video.
I usually put the TP2 LCD facing in, but I tried with it facing out and it still does not switch on... strange
BTW, I feel the original case that came with the unit is too tight. Kinda hard for me to take the phone out. I'm using the original TyTn 2 case. A little loose, but can be tightened with the velcro...
If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.
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If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.
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Thanks very much - that sorted it...
Rgs,
J
mines turns on as well. i have a vertical type case. when i place the tp2 into the pouch it cuts on. if i place it in upside down it doesnt. seems odd that orientation affects it...
Hey Guys,
I think Ghostifish has this thing completely figured out. There's definitely magnets inside the phone. I discovered this one by putting my phone down on my desk at work close to a couple of paper clips. When I picked it up, it grabbed the clips with it!! Four of them to be exact. At first I was a little started (thinking jeez, the magnetic fields off this thing must be frying my brain! ) But then realized that it was probably a lot like my i760 which also used a magnetic retention mechanism to hold the phone open or closed instead of a spring that would be prone to breaking.
Just FYI.
Dustin
So, i am getting this weird issues. The phone keep rotating itself (as if i slide out the keyboard. I know this because i activate the keyboard slide out sound) at close position.
It does this randomly. anyone have this issues? seem like the switch that activate the slide out keyboard have issues.
It's a magnetic switch which is responsible for the screen rotation at keyboard slide out. Check if any magnetic objects, maybe in your pocket, could cause this.
oh.. i just use an strong magnet and the rotation switch is located on the back of the screen.
This most happen when i take my phone out of the factory case. now .. even if i leave it on the table, it does that once a while.
maybe the magnet in the unit itself is not strong enough or i have a issue with the magnet switch.
Thanks for your input.
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oh.. i just use an strong magnet and the rotation switch is located on the back of the screen.
This most happen when i take my phone out of the factory case. now .. even if i leave it on the table, it does that once a while.
maybe the magnet in the unit itself is not strong enough or i have a issue with the magnet switch.
Thanks for your input.
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The magnet on the case may have affected the magnet in the phone. Like when you hold a nail up to a magnet, the nail becomes magnetic after removed from the magnet. Perhaps the internal magnet has become to strong, or the polarity is messed up somehow.
Magnets are a critical thing in the world. Indeed, maybe the MOST critical. There would be no electricity without magnets, and the domino effect of that alone. No magnetic storage, jeez, the list goes on forever. But wrongly placed, they can screw things up too.
Oh, and wearing them on your wrist for health benefits in in the domain of voodoo. They do nothing for you in that area
I have situations sometimes when Pro2 starts making multiple slider activation sounds (which I have enabled in Windows settings), where as the actual slider in not moving. I cannot see what happens on the screen during this because it sits in my pouch, but it is always unlocked when I get it out.
When I try to actually use slider, the sound only goes of when slider is half-way through! While when in pouch, it is slider is completely static.
Anyone else is seeing this, it bugs me as hell. I installed custom locking application, but it is set to unlock on slider events (which is what I want), and thus the device unlocks when this starts happening.
I am starting to suspect G Sensor, but so far could not repro this issue manually, with device outside of belt pouch.
If you have a case with a magnetic latch, this may be your problem. We discovered that when the phone is passed over the magnet in the latch, it will unlock the phone and activate the display and slider sound.
That was it, thank you.
Ugh! My favorite kind of belt pouch is magnetic.. What exactly was it doing? Unlocking itself!?
Not all magnetic pouches make the phone go nuts. I have 2 magnetic ones and neither one turn it on when I put it in or take it out of the case.
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Not all magnetic pouches make the phone go nuts. I have 2 magnetic ones and neither one turn it on when I put it in or take it out of the case.
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Try an experiment. Run the bottom of your phone (where your talk and end keys are at) close to the magnetic latch and see if it unlocks it.
We discovered that it also changed some settings.
If i run the magnet over the phone like that it turns it on, but putting the phone in and out of the case don't.
I was experiencing random screen shutoffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
Questions: I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar issues with their cases/covers (a little research seems to indicate this is not an isolated issue and many, if not all, cases/covers suffer from this issue).
1) If you have not, which cases/covers do you use? Do these cases resolve the issue by never aligning the cover to the same position when flipped backwards as when flipped forwards (i.e. skewed slightly short of the edge when in backwards position)?
2) If you have experienced this issue, how have you addressed it? Can you disable the magnetic sensor?
3) Would weakening the magnet in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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I was experiencing random screen sback andk ffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
et in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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yes i have the same problem. pick up A generic folio type case for my P600. Case looks and feels great. Auto wake works brilliantly when I open the cover, but there is the problem of The screen turning off when I flip the cover over to the back and the magnetic edges meet. Dunno how to fix this yet. Tried the magnetoff xposed module but that doesn't seem to work.
I got the Moko slim case and the same thing happens, what I did to circumvent the problem was to put my screen cleaning cloth between the case and the tablet. This prevents the magnet from locking the screen when completely folded backwards, the only thing is that this method will block the camera with the cloth. For me this is not a problem I don't see myself using the camera on my tablet when I can use my SGS3's camera, and this way I never forget my screen cleaning cloth .
I've read about this on other devices on various covers as well. they think it mah be due to the magnet not being properly shielded. dunno any fixes other than get another case.
I hade a cover for my old Ipad and it all so turn off the Ipad when I flipped over the cover.
It did turn out the problem was with the magnet and after getting a new one, the problem was solved.
My poetic slimline work perfectly no issues at all. Love the look and feel, I do want a carry slevee tho for more protection if I wanna bring it out of the house. Or even just to store in the house. But overall love this case.
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Get a piece of sheet metal (strip out a cheapie magnetic whiteboard , a few dollars at a variety store) cut to just less than the back of the tablet screen.
Cover it with a thin plastic film (to safeguard from cutting yourself)
It will adhere to the back of the screen magnetically and flatten the magnet's field
Now you can use the device with the keyboard tucked away behind the screen. (you may have to leave a small air gap say 5mm to 10 mm)
This does not affect the normal screen-keyboard functions when used conventionally
Same problem with Galaxy Tab A (Nougat)
There is an option in the tab to turn it off, but regardless what you choose, the tablet still responds to the magnet. Very annoying when you lay down your tablet flat. For now i just put something between the cover and the back of the tablet, like a handkerchief. This works for me, but ofcourse it's not a solution just a workaround. I'm still trying to find a solution.
Did you find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
There wasn't a good search result on a way to disable it via software or hardware mod so I thought I would post the solution I just did on my daughter's new tablet folio.
She has an old S3 Tab so the options are quite limited so figured modification was the only way. I ended up removing 3 magnets until I figured out which one actually did the on/off Hall effect. The smart thing to do would have been to use a magnet to find where on the tablet the Hall effect sensor was first, then remove just that magnet. The other magnets are for holding the clasp in place when the folio is open or closed.
I just cut an X over the magnet location, removed it, then filled it back in with hot glue. On her tablet, the Hall sensor was on the top left (fat arrow). It's annoying to have to do this but there's no other way. I tried the metal plate trick but that looked pretty bad and didn't always work.
Hope that helps someone
Hello, is there any way to trigger the screen to turn off (go to AOD etc) when something is closed on its face? I know in the past magnets and other things were used, and even for the SView covers. Is this possible for a DIY?
In the past, doing what you want was fairly easy, there are some apps that do it, I used gravity screen app, even with macrodroid or automate it, but, since the proximity sensors are behind the screen, the whole functionality changed, now, only the phone calling apps can access the proximity sensor, I now rely on the gyro sensor to turn the screen off, it is not the same, but a somewhat useful workaround solution
A small magnet in left-bottom corner does the trick, but only when my original clear-view cover is installed. Without the installed cover (which the phone recognises as installed accessory, I assume through NFC label in cover) the screen will stay on when a magnet is used in the right spot.
I think DIY solution with magnet is difficult, how to trick phone to think accessory is installed and activate magnetic sensor.
The magnetic sensor in phone is located approx 2.0 cm from left screen edge, approx 1.5 cm from bottom.