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Magnetic Leather Pouch Causing Device to turn on

Hi
Got my TP2, not sure you are having the same strange thing like me.
When I take out my TP2 from the magnet pouch, it will turn on itself.
I know you might think i accidently pressed some button... .. so i do a test and turn off my TP2 as usual and then just move my pouch back and fort next to my phone, and it turn on again.
Now I have to use a non-magnetive pouch.
Do you having the same experience?

Like old crackberrys when taking out of the belt clip it turns on...

wierd...never heard of it

confirmed here to...
i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.

faria said:
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i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.
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Ha! so Funny!!!
Maybe it is good too, beside you going to turn it on anyway when you took it out from your pouch :> ... So it turn it on for you.
Agreed, undocumented feature.... hahahahahahah

I've also noticed this but I'm not using the magnetic case as I need a belt clip, I'm using the old case from my Tytn2 which has a velcro closure. I also thought it was a clever feature like the way the light sensor turns off the touchscreen when you hold the phone to your ear when in a call.

Here is a video of this phenomenon
http://www.vimeo.com/5063985

maartenschenk said:
http://www.vimeo.com/5063985
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Nice magic but mine doesnt hv that undocumented feature..

confirmed ...
great feature! ;-)

Good. I am not alone.

I think I have this figured out.
I think the keyboard uses a magnet to detect when it is deployed, and that is what is being tripped by the cases' magnetic clasp.
After playing about with the case, trying to find all the ways to turn my TP2 on with it, (never turns on inside the case, mine is nowhere near as magnetic on the inside as it is on the outside) i found that the magnet can also rotate the screen disabling the onscreen input at the same time, just like when the keyboard is deployed.
If my theory is correct, then if you can find a way to disable the power on with keyboard slide (has anyone figured this out already?) then your problems with the case should be solved.
Or you could try and demagnetising the magnet a bit, perhaps your magnet is mega-powerful and thats why its able to trip the sensor while inside the pouch.

Same kind of problem here, that keylock opens when device it put to holster. And I have got couple of "angry" calls about "can't you use the keylock".
Luckily this "slide to unlock" keylock works little better, but still isn't the best solution.

Woohoo! Mine does it too!
Strangely though, it does seem to happen on my friends Vodafone branded TP2...

Oh, and off course the "nicest" thing is, that puches that came with TyTN2 and Touch Pro2 (and TyTN, if I remember correctly) contains magnets that open keylock/turn power on. Maybe there should have been little more thinking/hardware testing when that kind of accesories are decided to put in package.
And otherwise Touch Pro2's pouch is pretty useless, because it doesn't have belt clip, and it's "too thick" (compared to eg. Nokia's E71 pouch) to use with phone just in pocket.

Whoaa.. mine does too..
Just curious, try to enable the sliding sound, And you'll notice that when you put magnet on it, the sound plays.
Maybe the magnet triggers some sort of keyboard sensor..
anyone knows how to keep the phone standby even if the keyboard is opened?

Mine does not switch on when I take it out of the pouch. But it does switch on when I wave the pouch over the bottom corner like in the video.
I usually put the TP2 LCD facing in, but I tried with it facing out and it still does not switch on... strange
BTW, I feel the original case that came with the unit is too tight. Kinda hard for me to take the phone out. I'm using the original TyTn 2 case. A little loose, but can be tightened with the velcro...

If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.

vakbrain said:
If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.
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Thanks very much - that sorted it...
Rgs,
J

mines turns on as well. i have a vertical type case. when i place the tp2 into the pouch it cuts on. if i place it in upside down it doesnt. seems odd that orientation affects it...

Hey Guys,
I think Ghostifish has this thing completely figured out. There's definitely magnets inside the phone. I discovered this one by putting my phone down on my desk at work close to a couple of paper clips. When I picked it up, it grabbed the clips with it!! Four of them to be exact. At first I was a little started (thinking jeez, the magnetic fields off this thing must be frying my brain! ) But then realized that it was probably a lot like my i760 which also used a magnetic retention mechanism to hold the phone open or closed instead of a spring that would be prone to breaking.
Just FYI.
Dustin

Will magnetic case mess up phone? It interferes with keyboard slide sensor

I was having issues with the magnet in my phone case actually turning on the screen, and taking off the keylock! Pretty crazy, but it was happening. In order to fix this I had to disable the phone from waking up when the keyboard is slid out...not a big deal, I never slid the keyboard out unless the screen was on anyway. The problem is solved.
My question is will this have any negative effect on the phone? Will the magnet in the case mess with the accelerometer or g-sensor? I would hate for the case to cause future issues.
Thanks.

Anybody have any ideas?

I don't know about the accelerometer, but in my phone it seems to mess with the stylus sensor, and turn the phone on and unlock it.

The stylus sensor on the TP2 is not magnetic, but the keyboard slide sensor is. That is why magnets turn the phone on.

redpoint73 said:
The stylus sensor on the TP2 is not magnetic, but the keyboard slide sensor is. That is why magnets turn the phone on.
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Not on mine - I have the universal one and that one has no magnetic unlock mechanism.
As far as I know the G-sensor has nothing to do with magnets and cannot be interfered by magnets. (Have a magnetic button on my shield)

Anytime I turn on the phone after taking it out of the case it thinks it's in lanscape mode. I had to turn off the option of having the phone turn on when the keyboard is slid out.
What I'm wondering is if the magnet in my case will effect this sensor or anything else in the phone?
Thanks.

In short the answer is no. It is in landscape mode because you take the phone out past the magnets to get it out of the holder. There is a magnet in the keyboard sliding mechanism that is used to trigger landscape mode when you slide it out. When you pull it out of the holder the phone thinks you have opened keyboard and goes into landscape mode. In a few seconds when it realizes that you havent opened the keyboard, it goes back to regular mode.
Hope this helps clarify things. Bottom line is that the holder will not do anything negative to phone or degrade its performance in any way. I have two factory HTC cases that both have magnets in them from my Kaisers. Even HTC wouldnt ship somthing that was bad for the phone with them.

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In short the answer is no. It is in landscape mode because you take the phone out past the magnets to get it out of the holder. There is a magnet in the keyboard sliding mechanism that is used to trigger landscape mode when you slide it out. When you pull it out of the holder the phone thinks you have opened keyboard and goes into landscape mode. In a few seconds when it realizes that you havent opened the keyboard, it goes back to regular mode.
Hope this helps clarify things. Bottom line is that the holder will not do anything negative to phone or degrade its performance in any way. I have two factory HTC cases that both have magnets in them from my Kaisers. Even HTC wouldnt ship somthing that was bad for the phone with them.
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Sounds good, thanks for the explanation. I knew it was the magnet playing w/ the KB sensor, but I just wasn't sure if it would have any negative effect on the phone itself. It looks as though it will not!
Thanks.

What's the best way to stop the phone answering calls when I open my case (it has a magnetic catch)? I went to add SlideWakeup = 0 in the registry, but it's already there.
I'm running S2U2, latest version if that makes a difference.
Thanks

I run s2u2 also, no issues when I pull it out...other than the screen is on, which is no big deal, but the screen is still locked.

[Q] Cover flipped backwards turns off screen!

I was experiencing random screen shutoffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
Questions: I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar issues with their cases/covers (a little research seems to indicate this is not an isolated issue and many, if not all, cases/covers suffer from this issue).
1) If you have not, which cases/covers do you use? Do these cases resolve the issue by never aligning the cover to the same position when flipped backwards as when flipped forwards (i.e. skewed slightly short of the edge when in backwards position)?
2) If you have experienced this issue, how have you addressed it? Can you disable the magnetic sensor?
3) Would weakening the magnet in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?

SKida00 said:
I was experiencing random screen sback andk ffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
et in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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yes i have the same problem. pick up A generic folio type case for my P600. Case looks and feels great. Auto wake works brilliantly when I open the cover, but there is the problem of The screen turning off when I flip the cover over to the back and the magnetic edges meet. Dunno how to fix this yet. Tried the magnetoff xposed module but that doesn't seem to work.

I got the Moko slim case and the same thing happens, what I did to circumvent the problem was to put my screen cleaning cloth between the case and the tablet. This prevents the magnet from locking the screen when completely folded backwards, the only thing is that this method will block the camera with the cloth. For me this is not a problem I don't see myself using the camera on my tablet when I can use my SGS3's camera, and this way I never forget my screen cleaning cloth .

I've read about this on other devices on various covers as well. they think it mah be due to the magnet not being properly shielded. dunno any fixes other than get another case.

I hade a cover for my old Ipad and it all so turn off the Ipad when I flipped over the cover.
It did turn out the problem was with the magnet and after getting a new one, the problem was solved.

My poetic slimline work perfectly no issues at all. Love the look and feel, I do want a carry slevee tho for more protection if I wanna bring it out of the house. Or even just to store in the house. But overall love this case.
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Get a piece of sheet metal (strip out a cheapie magnetic whiteboard , a few dollars at a variety store) cut to just less than the back of the tablet screen.
Cover it with a thin plastic film (to safeguard from cutting yourself)
It will adhere to the back of the screen magnetically and flatten the magnet's field
Now you can use the device with the keyboard tucked away behind the screen. (you may have to leave a small air gap say 5mm to 10 mm)
This does not affect the normal screen-keyboard functions when used conventionally

Same problem with Galaxy Tab A (Nougat)
There is an option in the tab to turn it off, but regardless what you choose, the tablet still responds to the magnet. Very annoying when you lay down your tablet flat. For now i just put something between the cover and the back of the tablet, like a handkerchief. This works for me, but ofcourse it's not a solution just a workaround. I'm still trying to find a solution.

Did you find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e

There wasn't a good search result on a way to disable it via software or hardware mod so I thought I would post the solution I just did on my daughter's new tablet folio.
She has an old S3 Tab so the options are quite limited so figured modification was the only way. I ended up removing 3 magnets until I figured out which one actually did the on/off Hall effect. The smart thing to do would have been to use a magnet to find where on the tablet the Hall effect sensor was first, then remove just that magnet. The other magnets are for holding the clasp in place when the folio is open or closed.
I just cut an X over the magnet location, removed it, then filled it back in with hot glue. On her tablet, the Hall sensor was on the top left (fat arrow). It's annoying to have to do this but there's no other way. I tried the metal plate trick but that looked pretty bad and didn't always work.
Hope that helps someone

[Q] Disable proximity sensing for double tap unlocking?

Is there a way to TEMPORARILY disable the proximity sensing of the double-tap wake feature of LG G3?
What I want is to be able to wake the phone and unlock it while the phone is in a transparent case (waterproof bike mount, armband, etc.). The phone currently thinks that it is in the pocket and does not wake on double-tap on the screen.
The power button is in the center of the back of the phone which makes it hard/impossible to reach/find when in such a case/armband.
Is there a hidden setting or an app that will make this possible? And once more - I need this for temporary situations when riding a bike. After riding a bike i'd like to re-enable the proximity sensing for pocket carrying.

sstundzia said:
Is there a way to TEMPORARILY disable the proximity sensing of the double-tap wake feature of LG G3?
What I want is to be able to wake the phone and unlock it while the phone is in a transparent case (waterproof bike mount, armband, etc.). The phone currently thinks that it is in the pocket and does not wake on double-tap on the screen.
The power button is in the center of the back of the phone which makes it hard/impossible to reach/find when in such a case/armband.
Is there a hidden setting or an app that will make this possible? And once more - I need this for temporary situations when riding a bike. After riding a bike i'd like to re-enable the proximity sensing for pocket carrying.
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Cut out a small hole in the plastic right where the sensor is. That's how I solved the same problem.

infinitron said:
Cut out a small hole in the plastic right where the sensor is.
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"waterproof bike mount" :good:

Automaton locker might have a setting that will help you.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=aky.akshay.coveralgorithm
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The OP has probably solved his problem in the meantime. I had much the same issue, and I wanted to share what I did.
Firstly, yes, there is a way to "disable" the proximity sensor: just cover it with something that a) does not emit, and b) does not reflect IR light. Because of a), a finger does not work, but a piece of black sticky tape does. If only the right of the two little lenses is covered (that is the IR LED), the ambient light sensor even continues to work.
Of course, putting on some sticky tape whenever I use my G3 in the bicycle-mounted case is not the ideal solution. So I experimented with sticking the tape to the inside of the case. That did not work too well, because the front of the case is flexible and never lies flush on zthe screen. I ended up putting some thicker, spongy rubber there.
All this was with Rixen & Kaul's Phonebag M, which otherwise worked very nicely and allowed me to use my previous phone for navigation even in the most torrential rain.
But that spongy rubber blob made the touchscreen more difficult to use, as it lifted the case's transparent front even further away from the screen. So I kept looking, and bought Topeak's new Drybag 6.
It's a bit too big for an L3, but the Drybag 5 seems to *just* be too small - you'd probably get an L3 in there, but not out again. So the size 6 is the better choice. The interesting thing is that Topeak seems to use a different material for the transparent front: it seems to reflect IR light a lot less than the Phonebag's, so I can switch on my L3 almost every time (I'd say, 95% of my attempts worked). I will keep testing it for a few more weeks.
Two other things I find nice about it: the bicycle mount doubles as a belt clip, and it has a ziplock-style - um - ziplock, so it's probably not just resisting rain and sweat, but really waterproof. When I closed the ziplock, it was air-tight.
What I don't really like about it is the flimsiness of the mount - even the screw is plastic, and the case has a lot of play in the mount. I don't think, though, that it can fall out, even on bad roads.
Hope I could help someone.
Cheers
Daniel

Fix for Samsung Keyboard cover shutting the tablet off

I picked up a Samsung brand keyboard cover for my 813 today and was very disappointed to find that the magnets in the keyboard would shut the screen off when you flip the cover over so you can hold the tablet and use it without the keyboard.
I researched but couldn't find a solution that was even remotely practical.
I figured out that if you fold the cover like I did in the picture, there's enough space between the keyboard and the tablet that it doesn't trip the magnetic switch.
The cover is still folded on a way it's designed to and doesn't feel any different when using it.
Hope this helps.

so i assume this problem is not for specific covers then, i got a 'Superfly' case+cover that works like those for the ipad ones from Apple. the cover rolls back to create a triangle stand. when i try to fold it all the way back to create a flat back, the magnetic also sleeps the tab. so the only way to use it and holding it is to roll it back and making it a stand and hold the stand itself.
very frustrating as sometimes i would like to fold the cover back and lay flat on table or on my palm but it just sleeps it.
only way to hold it on the hand is the like pic attached.
it seems like the sleep magnets are towards the left of the device, because when i close the cover half way where the right side of cover is still far from the screen, it puts it to sleep. same for the rear
sorry for thread jack though, i'm on the same boat as you

I think that the magnetic switch is near the home button.
Would it be possible to put a metallic barrier on the back of the tablet between the back flap to prevent the magnet on the front flap triggering the switch?

Metallic Plate Works!
Putting a metallic barrier actually works very well. I got a magnetic phone holder for my car which came with 2 metal plates (with adhesive) that you can stick to your phone back. I didn't need the larger one and tried it with the Tab S2 (9.7) official keyboard cover. And it worked!
The pictures show where exactly is the "sweet spot".
Update: Apparently the position outside the box reverses the effect - switches off when you remove the keyboard. The solution I found is to wedge the metal plate behind the cover just near where the cover snaps to the tablet. Works perfect!

Nougat Updates solves the auto-off bug
The auto-off problem seems to have been solved with the Nougat update. After the update when I connected the keyboard cover, the touchpad was not working. I unpaired and paired the keyboard again. Got both the keyboard and touchpad working. Then discovered that the auto-off bug is also solved when I folded it in reading mode with the keyboard in both on/off positions.