I was experiencing random screen shutoffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
Questions: I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar issues with their cases/covers (a little research seems to indicate this is not an isolated issue and many, if not all, cases/covers suffer from this issue).
1) If you have not, which cases/covers do you use? Do these cases resolve the issue by never aligning the cover to the same position when flipped backwards as when flipped forwards (i.e. skewed slightly short of the edge when in backwards position)?
2) If you have experienced this issue, how have you addressed it? Can you disable the magnetic sensor?
3) Would weakening the magnet in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
SKida00 said:
I was experiencing random screen sback andk ffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
et in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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yes i have the same problem. pick up A generic folio type case for my P600. Case looks and feels great. Auto wake works brilliantly when I open the cover, but there is the problem of The screen turning off when I flip the cover over to the back and the magnetic edges meet. Dunno how to fix this yet. Tried the magnetoff xposed module but that doesn't seem to work.
I got the Moko slim case and the same thing happens, what I did to circumvent the problem was to put my screen cleaning cloth between the case and the tablet. This prevents the magnet from locking the screen when completely folded backwards, the only thing is that this method will block the camera with the cloth. For me this is not a problem I don't see myself using the camera on my tablet when I can use my SGS3's camera, and this way I never forget my screen cleaning cloth .
I've read about this on other devices on various covers as well. they think it mah be due to the magnet not being properly shielded. dunno any fixes other than get another case.
I hade a cover for my old Ipad and it all so turn off the Ipad when I flipped over the cover.
It did turn out the problem was with the magnet and after getting a new one, the problem was solved.
My poetic slimline work perfectly no issues at all. Love the look and feel, I do want a carry slevee tho for more protection if I wanna bring it out of the house. Or even just to store in the house. But overall love this case.
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Get a piece of sheet metal (strip out a cheapie magnetic whiteboard , a few dollars at a variety store) cut to just less than the back of the tablet screen.
Cover it with a thin plastic film (to safeguard from cutting yourself)
It will adhere to the back of the screen magnetically and flatten the magnet's field
Now you can use the device with the keyboard tucked away behind the screen. (you may have to leave a small air gap say 5mm to 10 mm)
This does not affect the normal screen-keyboard functions when used conventionally
Same problem with Galaxy Tab A (Nougat)
There is an option in the tab to turn it off, but regardless what you choose, the tablet still responds to the magnet. Very annoying when you lay down your tablet flat. For now i just put something between the cover and the back of the tablet, like a handkerchief. This works for me, but ofcourse it's not a solution just a workaround. I'm still trying to find a solution.
Did you find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
There wasn't a good search result on a way to disable it via software or hardware mod so I thought I would post the solution I just did on my daughter's new tablet folio.
She has an old S3 Tab so the options are quite limited so figured modification was the only way. I ended up removing 3 magnets until I figured out which one actually did the on/off Hall effect. The smart thing to do would have been to use a magnet to find where on the tablet the Hall effect sensor was first, then remove just that magnet. The other magnets are for holding the clasp in place when the folio is open or closed.
I just cut an X over the magnet location, removed it, then filled it back in with hot glue. On her tablet, the Hall sensor was on the top left (fat arrow). It's annoying to have to do this but there's no other way. I tried the metal plate trick but that looked pretty bad and didn't always work.
Hope that helps someone
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I owned a smart cover for my galaxy note 8.0, it can work properly like sleep and wake.
But here's the problem come,
usually the cover is cover the front of the tablet, but when we use it, we will flip the cover to the back of tablet.
while the cover touched the back side of the tablet, it will also put it as sleep.
so, how to disable smart cover auto sleep?
i had tried the "Lock instantly with power key", but it required at least security of "pattern"
Any ideas?
Need help! THANK YOU!:good:
I guess something is wrong either with your cover or device - putting the cover on the back should never put the device to sleep.
I don't recall anybody reporting similar problems here, also the small sample we have at home (2 notes + 2 covers) behaves correctly.
The best thing (although it's probably easier said than done) would be to establish which one is malfunctioning and have it replaced if possible.
otoh I would also be interested in a way to disable the cover on/off function - mine is so sensitive, that even the slight move of the front part wakes the device, causing increased battery drain and making betterbatterystats readings useless.
p107r0 said:
I guess something is wrong either with your cover or device - putting the cover on the back should never put the device to sleep.
I don't recall anybody reporting similar problems here, also the small sample we have at home (2 notes + 2 covers) behaves correctly.
The best thing (although it's probably easier said than done) would be to establish which one is malfunctioning and have it replaced if possible.
otoh I would also be interested in a way to disable the cover on/off function - mine is so sensitive, that even the slight move of the front part wakes the device, causing increased battery drain and making betterbatterystats readings useless.
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Here's a YouTube video that shows you how to do that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhB5kJGQKsI
exibm said:
Here's a YouTube video that shows you how to do that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhB5kJGQKsI
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thanks, but that's not it, my problem is sensitivity to magnets in the cover, not the home button
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Yes I have the same problem... I bought some dodgy case off eBay. The magnets also interfee with the spen
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I have seen that happen a lot with ipad cases. Its due to a poorly designed case.
flashlim said:
I owned a smart cover for my galaxy note 8.0, it can work properly like sleep and wake.
But here's the problem come,
usually the cover is cover the front of the tablet, but when we use it, we will flip the cover to the back of tablet.
while the cover touched the back side of the tablet, it will also put it as sleep.
so, how to disable smart cover auto sleep?
i had tried the "Lock instantly with power key", but it required at least security of "pattern"
Any ideas?
Need help! THANK YOU!:good:
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thanks, but that's not it, my problem is sensitivity to magnets in the cover, not the home button
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It happens all the time to me. Put it nicely in the back. Not a single bit cover the front. Shake the device a little bit. The cover hits the back of the device, make some noise and screen turns off. Magic. As if the device can sense magnet even by its back. But when it sits really tightly that no space bw it and the case, problem solved by put on some sticky tape in the back.
Smart cover not smart at all T^T~ but original case without having that problem right?
Smart cover problem
Still looking for a way to disable the software that causes auto sleep/wake.
The problem with some covers is that they are not authentic from the manufacturers. The original Samsung case for Note 8/N5100 has the correct magnetic power in the case flap. The other covers have a magnet that is too strong so when the flap is in the back the magnet still effects.
I surgically cut the magnet out of the cheep cover and closed it back up. Disabled auto wake with the modification. I am guessing the same could be done with the original authentic Samsung case but it is hard to cut the little magnet out because its built in seamlessly so you cant see the exact location of the magnet.
flashlim said:
Smart cover not smart at all T^T~ but original case without having that problem right?
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Original Samsung book cover should not have that problem. i have been using the book cover for almost five months and not facing said issue.
Okay so i recently got a galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed. and i bought this ivso case for it: ww.amazon.com/Samsung-Edition-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00FJTV0PG
I like the case and the detachable keyboard but what i cannot stand is the effects the magnets have on the tablet. It makes it auto wake, which i guess is kind of nice, but when i fold it back around behind the tablet, it always auto locks my tablet. It also will not let me drag the drop down notification bar from the top when it is folded around the back.
Anyways, i was wondering if anyone knew of any apps or settings to disable the effects of the magnets on the tablet? I've spent hours googling and trying out different apps and whatnot but nothing helps.
Thanks in adv,
betaPartier
What I did was get a sharp knife and take the magnet out. Stick a velcro instead.
wannajump said:
What I did was get a sharp knife and take the magnet out. Stick a velcro instead.
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Would you be able to share a few photo's to show us what you did.
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Maybe have a look at [MOD][XPOSED] MotoMagnetOff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
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I have same problem ,when I turn cover back,it turn the screen down . Actually ,I turn the cover back just want to hold it to pay a game. But it turn down, smart cover is not smart actually .
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I folded some papers and slip it underneath the tablet in the case. It block the magnet so it won't off the screen when u flip the cover to the back.
The pen holder strap that comes with the cover is too small to hold my Wacom stylus feel. So, I got some stretchable strap, loop it and staple it to the paper. Now I can slip my stylus comfortably attachedge to the cover.
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matsuru said:
The pen holder strap that comes with the cover is too small to hold my Wacom stylus feel.
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Off topic, but how do you like the Wacom feel?
I'm thinking of getting one but I read that it is not as accurate as the default stylus, unless held at a 90 degree angle (!). Is that the case?
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There is a bit of offset. But it doesn't affect me much. Just write or draw like normal.
In apps like lecture notes, tgere is a setting where u can adjust the offset to make it accurate.
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betaPartier said:
Okay so i recently got a galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed. and i bought this ivso case for it: ww.amazon.com/Samsung-Edition-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00FJTV0PG
I like the case and the detachable keyboard but what i cannot stand is the effects the magnets have on the tablet. It makes it auto wake, which i guess is kind of nice, but when i fold it back around behind the tablet, it always auto locks my tablet. It also will not let me drag the drop down notification bar from the top when it is folded around the back.
Anyways, i was wondering if anyone knew of any apps or settings to disable the effects of the magnets on the tablet? I've spent hours googling and trying out different apps and whatnot but nothing helps.
Thanks in adv,
betaPartier
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I have the same problem. Did you figure out a way to disable the magnetic sensor?
degakc said:
I have the same problem. Did you figure out a way to disable the magnetic sensor?
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No. I ended up just getting a different case that doesn't have a keyboard. Since there's no magnetic keyboard, the magnets aren't nearly as strong and only affects the tablet when I open it, not when I fold it around the back.
Thanks for the speedy response. On close inspection I noticed that there is a small magnet on the front cover top left corner about 1 inch from the top. almost invisible but can find it when we run a coin over the surface of the front cover. When the back side of the note 10.1 meets this magnet, screen switches off. I noted that by placing a magazine/ booklet between the front cover and the back when using in flipped over mode: the screen does not switch off. A small victory. But wish that samsung provides a solution 2 disable this magnetic screen off feature through a menu option.
i have same problem and i fix it by take out magnate from cover. i hope found a better way for this problem
Did anyone find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
You'd think that the guys who make these cases would just add a small amount of padding over the magnet so it only activates the sensor on the one side... To simple an idea I guess...
New owner here.
The 10.1 manual says:
"Do not cover the antenna area with your hands or other objects. This may cause
connectivity problems or drain the battery.
Do not use a screen protector. This causes sensor malfunctions"
Obviously lots of folks on here are using one and/or both of these. Have you found the malfunctions that the manual says will happen? I'd really like to protect my tablet, but don't want to cause a problem with it. Thanks.
A screen protector designed for your device is fine. They actually have a hole over the proximity sensor. I have two cases, a keyboard case and a pro case both designed for my Note. They are just fine as long as the are designed for your device. The slots and holes around the case are not random, they are there so as to insure the device functions correct.
I picked up a Samsung brand keyboard cover for my 813 today and was very disappointed to find that the magnets in the keyboard would shut the screen off when you flip the cover over so you can hold the tablet and use it without the keyboard.
I researched but couldn't find a solution that was even remotely practical.
I figured out that if you fold the cover like I did in the picture, there's enough space between the keyboard and the tablet that it doesn't trip the magnetic switch.
The cover is still folded on a way it's designed to and doesn't feel any different when using it.
Hope this helps.
so i assume this problem is not for specific covers then, i got a 'Superfly' case+cover that works like those for the ipad ones from Apple. the cover rolls back to create a triangle stand. when i try to fold it all the way back to create a flat back, the magnetic also sleeps the tab. so the only way to use it and holding it is to roll it back and making it a stand and hold the stand itself.
very frustrating as sometimes i would like to fold the cover back and lay flat on table or on my palm but it just sleeps it.
only way to hold it on the hand is the like pic attached.
it seems like the sleep magnets are towards the left of the device, because when i close the cover half way where the right side of cover is still far from the screen, it puts it to sleep. same for the rear
sorry for thread jack though, i'm on the same boat as you
I think that the magnetic switch is near the home button.
Would it be possible to put a metallic barrier on the back of the tablet between the back flap to prevent the magnet on the front flap triggering the switch?
Metallic Plate Works!
Putting a metallic barrier actually works very well. I got a magnetic phone holder for my car which came with 2 metal plates (with adhesive) that you can stick to your phone back. I didn't need the larger one and tried it with the Tab S2 (9.7) official keyboard cover. And it worked!
The pictures show where exactly is the "sweet spot".
Update: Apparently the position outside the box reverses the effect - switches off when you remove the keyboard. The solution I found is to wedge the metal plate behind the cover just near where the cover snaps to the tablet. Works perfect!
Nougat Updates solves the auto-off bug
The auto-off problem seems to have been solved with the Nougat update. After the update when I connected the keyboard cover, the touchpad was not working. I unpaired and paired the keyboard again. Got both the keyboard and touchpad working. Then discovered that the auto-off bug is also solved when I folded it in reading mode with the keyboard in both on/off positions.
I have a cover for my tablet - can u recommend an app to auto turn on / off screen when I open / close the cover, because HOME button is quickly wearing out! Thanks.
I seem to remember that there were several complaints about their tablets shutting off when closing a third party cover. It turned out that there were magnets in the cover that affected the on/off switch. Maybe you could do a search to find out what cover they used and buy that cover. I may have seen that post somewhere on another forum also. Try a google search also as it may turn up the post you need.
armanys said:
I have a cover for my tablet - can u recommend an app to auto turn on / off screen when I open / close the cover, because HOME button is quickly wearing out! Thanks.
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The tablet has built in functionality for this.
most folio cases have magnets in them that activate the screen when you open them.
That being said the magnet can temporarily interfere with the Waccom layer of the screen used to get Spen input. (the pen will stop reading accurately/at all in the areas affected by the magnet.)
there were a lot of reports of the magnets permanently affecting the screen but the official word is that if the magnet is removed from close proximity to the screen the issues will eventually go away. (This was a big deal a while back because even Samsungs own folio case has magnets)
note that not everyone reported the issues so I'm pretty sure it has to do with how strong the magnet in the case is.
if you use your pen a lot I would stay away from those cases.
on the other hand if you don't use the pen then it wont affect you.
There are apps to let you double tap the screen to wake it (even for android versions before it was supported) which would save the physical buttons some wear but I suspect you would take a hit on battery life with that option.
The answer to just about everything: Tasker.
There's a how-to for this particular setting here. Battery drain is pretty low, about 2% every 12 hours or so.
Only flip covers with a magnet can use the system's inbuild auto-on/off functionality. Everything else needs to use the proximity sensor.
There are three types of flip covers, two of which use a magnet.
One is a strong, single magnet. This is the cheap option and causes problems with the Wacom sensors, which are also magnetic. You'll find this in pretty much 90% of all auto-on/off covers, especially the cheaper ones. The first Samsung covers also used this method, until they figured out it was a terrible idea.
The second is a ring patterns of thin magnetic strip woven through the entire back of the cover. This is used by most expensive brands (Like Samsonite), and doesn't interfere with the Wacom sensor.
The third are the most common one: Covers without a magnet. All these do is protect your screen.
ShadowLea said:
The answer to just about everything: Tasker.
There's a how-to for this particular setting here. Battery drain is pretty low, about 2% every 12 hours or so.
Only flip covers with a magnet can use the system's inbuild auto-on/off functionality. Everything else needs to use the proximity sensor.
There are three types of flip covers, two of which use a magnet.
One is a strong, single magnet. This is the cheap option and causes problems with the Wacom sensors, which are also magnetic. You'll find this in pretty much 90% of all auto-on/off covers, especially the cheaper ones. The first Samsung covers also used this method, until they figured out it was a terrible idea.
The second is a ring patterns of thin magnetic strip woven through the entire back of the cover. This is used by most expensive brands (Like Samsonite), and doesn't interfere with the Wacom sensor.
The third are the most common one: Covers without a magnet. All these do is protect your screen.
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