Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi (flo) best kernel for CM11 - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

First of all : Hi ! I've bought my "flo" yesterday ,updated it to 4.4.4 (stock) and after a few hours of use and documentation , I've decided to root and flash a custom ROM as I did with my previous Android devices. (CM11 for now until I get more documented about the ROMs for this device). I left the bootloader locked, rooted with TowelRoot and flashed latest TWRP recovery using RashR from Play store. I plan to use my tablet mostly for graphically intense games ,some movies (as soon as my micro USB OTG flash drive arrives) and Wattpad reading. I've been happy with CM11's kernel but I know there's room for improvement.
Now to get to the point : I've seen that there is a big "battle for supremacy" between Franco kernel and ElementalX. Some users experience Wi-Fi problems with Franco's r17 as I've seen on it's thread .
My question is : what is the best and most stable kernel for CM11? I need a balance between performance in games and battery life or a 60-40.
Bonus question : is everything okay if I leave the bootloader locked?
Ty in advance!
PS : As I am new to this device, I would really appreciate an advice from people not affected by the placebo effect (fanboys)

As for bonus question, you may have trouble getting back to a stock recovery with it locked.
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thevypr said:
As for bonus question, you may have trouble getting back to a stock recovery with it locked.
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I've seen now that I need the bootloader unlocked to go back to stock. Thanks

The only way to decide what is the best for you is to try them. Try many and then you will be able to tell what suits you better.
This topic is highly subjective and it usually starts unwanted arguments and flamewars therefore we don't allow best rom/kernels,etc threads.
Thread closed.

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Is rooting+flashing custom rom a solution to my "prob" ?

Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
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WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
wtr_dhd said:
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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[Q] Best Custom ROM & Kernel for Nexus 7 (2013)

Which best custom ROM & Kernel you can recommend me to use on my Google Nexus 7 (2013) KitKat 4.4.2!!
I'm now using ElementalX 2.6 custom Kernel & Stock ROM
Suggest me any best Custom ROM…need best and awesome interface...and also stability... Just best from all over
mhshujon said:
Which best custom ROM & Kernel you can recommend me to use on my Google Nexus 7 (2013) KitKat 4.4.2!!
I'm now using ElementalX 2.6 custom Kernel & Stock ROM
Suggest me any best Custom ROM…need best and awesome interface...and also stability... Just best from all over
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Moderators frown on questions like this, and rightfully so. The best suggestion is to check the ROM forum. You might as well ask what the best cut of beef is.
I recommend installing multirom so you can install many ROMs at the same time. Then you can try all the ROMs you want and see which you like the most
Sent from my Nexus 7
Pandae said:
Moderators frown on questions like this, and rightfully so. The best suggestion is to check the ROM forum. You might as well ask what the best cut of beef is.
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More to the point - this question is all but impossible to answer, simply because it is so subjective. What is the best for one person (rock solid stability, but no features) is not the best for another. Your only recourse, as suggested, is to read through some of the popular threads to get a handle on what is available, then go from there.

Which 4.2.2 Rom is Stable, Smooth & Best for Gnex - HELP Please

Hi,
Friends and this definably representative question, I have Samsung Galaxy Nexus and now i am on "[ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [01122014] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ", This rom is good but sometime apps get stuck and force to close etc etc,
So any friend who help me to find out some good rom based on ASOP or CM11 any, but atleast allow me to run apps smoothly.
Please help Thanks
ftrack said:
Hi,
Friends and this definably representative question, I have Samsung Galaxy Nexus and now i am on "[ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [01122014] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ", This rom is good but sometime apps get stuck and force to close etc etc,
So any friend who help me to find out some good rom based on ASOP or CM11 any, but atleast allow me to run apps smoothly.
Please help Thanks
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You don't need roms for that, you need kernels try Franco's kernel. Cynogen is the most stable and bug free ROM out there.
ftrack said:
Hi,
Friends and this definably representative question, I have Samsung Galaxy Nexus and now i am on "[ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [01122014] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ", This rom is good but sometime apps get stuck and force to close etc etc,
So any friend who help me to find out some good rom based on ASOP or CM11 any, but atleast allow me to run apps smoothly.
Please help Thanks
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Wajeeh4616 said:
You don't need roms for that, you need kernels try Franco's kernel. Cynogen is the most stable and bug free ROM out there.
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Not just that - please update your CM11 to one of the OFFICIAL nightlies, available here: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=maguro
Hey Thank Wajeeh4616,
Please can you give me link to download for 4.4.2 and do i need to flash that kernel right. Sorry don't have much idea about Kernel,
Please if you could provide me some more help in this.
Thanks a lot.
Just one quick question after flashing with "cm-11-20140322-NIGHTLY-maguro.zip " CM11 Nightly, means Official CM11 because i was on "UNOFFICIAL" doest they make any conflict? If so then ill now i m moving on new cm11 "cm-11-20140322-NIGHTLY-maguro.zip " and i need to also flash with Franko Kernal ?
ftrack said:
Just one quick question after flashing with "cm-11-20140322-NIGHTLY-maguro.zip " CM11 Nightly, means Official CM11 because i was on "UNOFFICIAL" doest they make any conflict? If so then ill now i m moving on new cm11 "cm-11-20140322-NIGHTLY-maguro.zip " and i need to also flash with Franko Kernal ?
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http://download.cyanogenmod.org/
Get the latest version from here and be sure to select the correct device or you know..... Brick etc...
You can find many kernels on the development section of your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development this is for maguro
You can use others but I prefer using Franco kernel as it is very easy to flash (you can download it's app from play store just type Franco kernels and download it. You can use auto flash option from it)
Remember these things are very tricky,it can make your device unusable if you install it incorrectly so..... Take care
And yeah nightlies are official so you better get them from their website as they are fully tested and it is less likely to go anything wrong with them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ex-samsung-galaxy-nexus-roms-kernels-t1792896 check it out and be sure to
thank that person and yeah it is for maguro
Omnimetal ROM
ftrack said:
Hi,
Friends and this definably representative question, I have Samsung Galaxy Nexus and now i am on "[ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [01122014] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ", This rom is good but sometime apps get stuck and force to close etc etc,
So any friend who help me to find out some good rom based on ASOP or CM11 any, but atleast allow me to run apps smoothly.
Please help Thanks
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I know that people generally stick to Cyanogenmod due to it's stability, but I think it is overrated due to the fact that they support so many devices. I would prefer ROMs where the devs actually have the device, and focus on the device since they plan to have it for a while.
With that being said, here is my favorite ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development/rom-omnimetal-linaro-omni-rom-t2550477
I haven't had any issues (like apps that force close) on it, and apps run fine. In fact, I have also switched to ART and it is pretty stable and blazingly fast. My test was its battery life, and it lasted me close to 7 days on standby with groove ip running on it (receiving calls, texts, etc.), and 2 days with active usage with a sim card.
Hope this helps!
sananth said:
I know that people generally stick to Cyanogenmod due to it's stability, but I think it is overrated due to the fact that they support so many devices. I would prefer ROMs where the devs actually have the device, and focus on the device since they plan to have it for a while.
With that being said, here is my favorite ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development/rom-omnimetal-linaro-omni-rom-t2550477
I haven't had any issues (like apps that force close) on it, and apps run fine. In fact, I have also switched to ART and it is pretty stable and blazingly fast. My test was its battery life, and it lasted me close to 7 days on standby with groove ip running on it (receiving calls, texts, etc.), and 2 days with active usage with a sim card.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for atleast reply and suggesting me some ROM which is i ever try.. but now i am little confused, for selecting ROM, I made my mind as per last reply ROM from CM11 Nightly and Kernel From Franco but now OMNI i need to learn about that too.
Can anyone have suggestion on that or give me little more light on ROM.
Thanks
Its good to have choices
If you are new to flashing ROMs, usually CM 11 is an excellent choice.
However, to me speed, low RAM consumption and good battery life matters, so here are the reasons why I chose that ROM:
1. Linaro toolchain - Here is a link to explain why it is faster than standard CM:
http://www.androidauthority.com/linaro-android-is-up-to-twice-as-fast-as-stock-android-92831/
2. Dirty_V kernel - For speed, most of us Nexus users feel it is the best. It is an improvement over Franco's kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development/kernel-dirtyv-t2613655
So, I usually choose a ROM which uses the linaro toolchain. I also got a ton of cool features like notifications, omniswitch, etc. which you can read about in the ROM link from my previous post.
In the end, I am just giving you suggestions. Why don't you try creating a nandroid backup and then flashing many ROMs to see which one you like? Using the nandroid backup, you could always come back to the tried and trusted CM 11 !
Here is a small intro to nandroid backups which may be useful even in the future in case you mess up your phone with a bad update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/NANDroid
Hope this helps! :good:
I'm switch between 2 Roms.
Remix
Vanir
Bothe stable and fast.
CU
Litening
Thanks really ! I'll definatly read and try on of that, but first I'll take nandroid backup and learn how to restore etc.
CM11 is good but some time its response very lately specially when charging.
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You might want to try omnirom (google for omnirom download, you want the maguro version).
They push daily updates (I install updates every 1-3 weeks). They closely track AOSP (meaning a new AOSP will be made available ASAP). It's a very stable rom and I'm running it my nexus 4 and a modified version on my Galaxy Nexus. It's been incredibly stable and reliable so far. Oh, and its 4.4.2
No try omnimetal! No try vanir! No try liquidsmooth! No try Xenonhd!. So you need to test everything. These threads are useless and not allowed. Choose one you like. Every rom is stable unless specified otherwise..
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treffer said:
You might want to try omnirom (google for omnirom download, you want the maguro version).
They push daily updates (I install updates every 1-3 weeks). They closely track AOSP (meaning a new AOSP will be made available ASAP). It's a very stable rom and I'm running it my nexus 4 and a modified version on my Galaxy Nexus. It's been incredibly stable and reliable so far. Oh, and its 4.4.2
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Hey I am back, with nude question..
There are i think 3 version of Omni which one is smooth or stable "OmniMetal" ?
Its been said by our elders always ask before implementing anything, its always help full, So I am asking before breaking-up my phone.
So guys, please keep suggesting if you can thanks a lot to all of you.
ftrack said:
Hey I am back, with nude question..
There are i think 3 version of Omni which one is smooth or stable "OmniMetal" ?
Its been said by our elders always ask before implementing anything, its always help full, So I am asking before breaking-up my phone.
So guys, please keep suggesting if you can thanks a lot to all of you.
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Pick the one from the omnirom.org download page. All others are remixes - cool stuff you can get in this forum, but not the most stable experience.

[Q] Q misc root questions need answers

I am a noob with android, I used to own an iphone, now I have a note 4 and nexus 7 2013, however the rooting process is confusing for me, a few questions
What is TWRP (and how do I put it on my tablet, App?)
difference between Kernel and ROM (and how to implement each)
chainfire doesn't have a nexus 7 2013 5.0.2 lollipop listed as compatible, is it rootable? (What tool to use?)
what should I stay away from when rooting so I don't brick my nexus 7
[email protected] said:
I am a noob with android, I used to own an iphone, now I have a note 4 and nexus 7 2013, however the rooting process is confusing for me, a few questions
What is TWRP (and how do I put it on my tablet, App?)
difference between Kernel and ROM (and how to implement each)
chainfire doesn't have a nexus 7 2013 5.0.2 lollipop listed as compatible, is it rootable? (What tool to use?)
what should I stay away from when rooting so I don't brick my nexus 7
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Have you tried looking into some of this stuff yourself yet? These are very basic questions that can be answered by Googling, or by reading the sticky threads. I'll give you some quick answers but I highly suggest you try and learn as much as you can by yourself first, and then come back with more specific questions. Members of XDA are more inclined to help when we see that you've put in at least some effort to help yourself first. Anyway-
TWRP is a custom recovery and it is what allows you to flash custom ROMs, kernels and various other zips. It is also what you use to make nandroid backups, which is something you're going to want to do before you flash ANYTHING at all.
A kernel is the part of the OS that allows the software to communicate with the hardware. Custom kernels can increase performance, potentially get you better battery life, and also allow you to overclock, undervolt, etc...
A ROM is essentially the operating system of your tablet. There are a bunch of custom ROMs available and they all have their own set of features, themes, etc... Check out the development section and read some of the ROM threads and you can see what some of our wonderful developers have cooked up.
Don't use any tool to root your Nexus. In fact, don't use any tool for anything. If someone recommends to use a toolkit for something, don't. You're going to want to learn how to use fastboot. Read the stickied guides in general, they have all the info you need on rooting, you'll find it is actually quite simple.
Stay away from flashing anything that isn't specifically for your device, or that hasn't been tested on your device. Make regular nandroid backups. Nexus phones and tablets are incredibly easy to mod, and incredibly difficult to brick. If you use a little common sense when doing things, you'll be just fine.
Hope this helps.

flashing elementalx kernel - but which one?

Hello, I bought the elementalx apk from the app store and quickly realised that life isn't that simple and I needed to flash my device with an elementalx kernel.
I run a nexus 7 2013 wifi only tablet, rooted and on 4.3 (JSS15Q). There are lots of different kernel links to choose from and as a noob am unsure if I need to flash a kernel specific to my jellybean operating system.
I also flip between flashing different operating systems quite a bit depending on what I am doing, will the kernel affect this?
Any help gratefully received.
IMO you should update to Marshmallow, do a nandroid backup then flash the elemental kernel, then install the elemental app. As far as i know the app is only for tuning the kernel and doesnt flash it. If you have a pc try using the excellent Nexus Root Toolkit it makes things really easy good luck��
I just looked there are no elementalx kernels for 4.3 so you will have to update your nexus
jamesfranciskenny said:
Hello, I bought the elementalx apk from the app store and quickly realised that life isn't that simple and I needed to flash my device with an elementalx kernel.
I run a nexus 7 2013 wifi only tablet, rooted and on 4.3 (JSS15Q). There are lots of different kernel links to choose from and as a noob am unsure if I need to flash a kernel specific to my jellybean operating system.
I also flip between flashing different operating systems quite a bit depending on what I am doing, will the kernel affect this?
Any help gratefully received.
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I believe it's ElementalX 1.8 that you need for JSS15Q 4.3;
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291674219
Also, Bulletproof kernel by Flar2 will work, see this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410140

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