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HTC AMAZE got their Wifi Calling Update OTA Today....

what about us......

We always get the short end of the stick
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We've got the better phone anyways. lol.

babymatteo said:
We've got the better phone anyways. lol.
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Having owned both, we really do have the better phone.

I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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Wifi calling is for people who have bad reception in their home, office etc. I personally do not care for this feature because I have great reception just about everywhere I go.
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Not for nothing but the amaze came out first.. lets chill..

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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and i believe wifi calling still uses your minutes. just to clear things up, there are other apps like google voice that doesn't uses minutes over wifi.

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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Wow. Thats what Wifi calling is for...using your wifi's signal to make phone calls. Very useful for others that have weak phone signal at home.

Not to mention good on battery. It turns off the radio chip when its in use as well.

The amaze needs all the help it can get.
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jordanishere said:
The amaze needs all the help it can get.
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I Agree
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Teo032 said:
and i believe wifi calling still uses your minutes. just to clear things up, there are other apps like google voice that doesn't uses minutes over wifi.
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It doesn't if you have Tmobile add the "free" wifi calling feature onto your account.
I'm just sayin!

i have ****ty service in tucson regardless of where i am lol, wifi calling is an INTEGRAL feature.....it is making this phone very hard to use!

PJcastaldo said:
Not for nothing but the amaze came out first.. lets chill..
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they have the same release day?

[BOUNTY(?)] WiFi calling

Not really sure how to properly start a bounty thread, and direction is appreciated. Also don't know if this is even possible as I know porting wifi calling has proven to be nearly impossible on other devices, e.g. Nexus S. However, doesn't hurt to ask and I know it was done on Nexus One. Am using Galaxy Nexus on TMo, if that makes any difference.
Really, desperately need wifi calling for reception purposes in my apartment. Left TMo's Galaxy S2 for the Galaxy Nexus, love everything about it except lack of reception in home.
I know I can utilize Google Voice, but I need to be able to use my TMo number for both incoming and outgoing calls as well as texts, and not interested in porting my mobile number to Google.
I'm willing to fork over $100 for working wifi calling, if anyone is up to the challenge... if even possible...
Also, if anyone has alternate suggestion (not Google Voice, something that utilizes TMo mobile number, would be GREATLY appreciated!!

If this is possible that would be awesome. But I believe UMA is strictly a tmo thing
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I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.

Tubes6al4v said:
I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.
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Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...

lp1527 said:
Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...
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I will match whatever contribution you make. I want to see the WiFi calling in the ways of the HTC Glacier (MT4G)...

Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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GSM, on T-Mobile
But thanks for the suggestion...

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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TMo does have a signal booster device, but it cannot be implemented in shared-wall structures (i.e. apartment buildings). Also, have many places, such as family homes, with lousy in-door coverage where wi-fi calling makes all the difference in the world.

i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars

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i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars
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That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Yeah, the cops might hall you off!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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Well I'm not scared of the signal booster police!
Unfortunately they check your address to verify. NO, I don't know if/how they can verify ALL shared wall structures, but for someone like me with "Apt. 5J" attached to my address it's not difficult. The issue is you need to register your address in case of emergency, as 911 cannot definitely and accurately determine your address if making a call using signal booster. So the issue is that if a neighbor picks up your signal without knowing and makes an emergency call, 911 may not be able to identify address. I know it's a long shot but it's not MY rule. And afaik, you cannot lock the signal to exclude others as you can with wifi.

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Oh, and hall = haul when referring to carrying someone away. Just saying

I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer

player911 said:
I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!

lp1527 said:
You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
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The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
lp1527 said:
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!
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I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.

krohnjw said:
The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.
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Well you clearly know much more than I do about it! Like I said, I'm absolutely no dev and have only 'average' knowledge of these things. Thanks for the info! Any idea if the GN has what would be necessary to make it happen?

I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php

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I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php
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Checked out the link but I still have NO clue what this is ... can you elaborate please? Thanks!

[Q] Wifi Calling GPS??

Every time I turn on WiFi and it initiates WiFi Calling, I notice that the GPS signal comes on for about 5-10seconds. Why would it pull my GPS location when starting WiFi calling?
Is this for 911 calling (hopefully), or is this to prevent you from using WiFi calling internationally to make free calls back home to the US?

Probably to bill international callers
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iwasblown said:
Probably to bill international callers
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That is what I am worried about. I am actually headed to Canada tomorrow and thinking I want to try it from a Tim Hortons or something but I am a little bit chicken haha.
It doesn't seem fair that they would do that... It doesn't matter/cost anything to them where I am connecting over WiFi from as long as I am not connecting via a tower.

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That is what I am worried about. I am actually headed to Canada tomorrow and thinking I want to try it from a Tim Hortons or something but I am a little bit chicken haha.
It doesn't seem fair that they would do that... It doesn't matter/cost anything to them where I am connecting over WiFi from as long as I am not connecting via a tower.
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Just use google voice free calls to from U.S to canada or use a sip account.

I don't think for international billing. What if you are in the building or basement where no GPS signal. In addition, if they want, they still could check ip address.
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hyl4me said:
I don't think for international billing. What if you are in the building or basement where no GPS signal. In addition, if they want, they still could check ip address.
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ip is assigned by t-mobile, so it wouldn't necessarily very by location.
while yes, they could look it up, that would use their resources, and they would much rather use your battery and abuse your privacy.

danielblakes said:
ip is assigned by t-mobile, so it wouldn't necessarily very by location.
while yes, they could look it up, that would use their resources, and they would much rather use your battery and abuse your privacy.
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No, I mean the source IP which uses to connect to wifi calling unless you run through proxy, then it could be you are in US and have European ip .....But it is so true that "they would much rather use your battery and abuse your privacy"

Bump. I have been noticing this since updating to ICS. How do I get it to stop?

wifi calling issues

does anyone else that came to this phone from another t-mobile phone find that the wifi calling is just awful? i had perfect wifi calling on my g2 and mytouch4gslide but now, and although this phone as far as regular performance goes is a million times better in every other department, wifi calling (which i need because i get terrible signal in my house) is SO hit or miss. sometimes i'll get a call and answer it and its just blank silence. the other person will claim to be able to hear me when we finally disconnect and call each other back, but i hear absolutely nothing, like as if the phone was turned off, not even any dead air. sometimes i'll go to dial someone and the dial button just won't even work. it depresses and nothing happens. then a minute later it starts dialing. sometimes people say they call me and it goes straight to voicemail. i'd say its roughly 50/50 whether or not i get a good wifi calling experience or not. is there something with my router that maybe would help to make the experience better? certain settings i should have? i'm not really very experienced with setting up routers. i pretty much just go default down the line and then setup a password and thats it. i've tried clearing data on the wifi calling a couple times but it really hasn't helped. would appreciate any input because at this point its getting to where if i'm expecting calls i'll just have to turn wifi off and hope my fluctuating regular signal is good enough to get the call (usually is fine in my house for calls just practically unusable for data).
thanks

Try to get a range extender from tmo. WiFi calling is unreliable and from what I've seen on their forums they've done nothing to remedy it.

psykhotic said:
Try to get a range extender from tmo. WiFi calling is unreliable and from what I've seen on their forums they've done nothing to remedy it.
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yea but it worked so good on my last 2 tmobile phones. thats why i was hoping maybe there was some router settings that would work better with wifi calling on the s3 specifically. i'd much rather still use wifi calling if i could. in the past it was so much more reliable than my crappy regular signal here in my house...

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yea but it worked so good on my last 2 tmobile phones. thats why i was hoping maybe there was some router settings that would work better with wifi calling on the s3 specifically. i'd much rather still use wifi calling if i could. in the past it was so much more reliable than my crappy regular signal here in my house...
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It worked better on your other phones because those phones WiFi calling utilized the kinecto servers. Since now they've switched to IMS, WIFI calling has been kinda crappy.
I'm just sayin!

I've had the exact opposite reaction from going from kineto to ims. For me the quality is far superior and less lag and echo.
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I've had the exact opposite reaction from going from kineto to ims. For me the quality is far superior and less lag and echo.
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Yes the quality is slightly better but it's not as dependable as it was with the kinecto servers. I get the same exact identical issues as the OP.
I'm just sayin!

I also have the same issue as OP.
I was thinking that probably my network, but it is the phone.
Becuase my S2 works fine with wifi calling, only problem with s3.

byteless said:
I also have the same issue as OP.
I was thinking that probably my network, but it is the phone.
Becuase my S2 works fine with wifi calling, only problem with s3.
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My S2 has the same identical problem as well. With the s2 I thought maybe it was the phone, but after the problem manifesting on my s3, I knew it's either the WiFi calling software or the network.
I'm just sayin!

well at least i know i'm not alone haha. sucks though. maybe i'll complain to t-mobile, see what they have to say.

[Q] Wifi calling range

I am currently running the latest version of Wicked rom. I have been using T-mobile for the last few years on several different phones. I need to use stock based roms with wifi calling due to the fact I have no cell signal in or around my home. I have been using my Galaxy S3 for the last couple of months , and I just don't get the range from wifi calling like I have with my other T-Mobile phones. When I get down to 2 bars of wifi signal my S3 drops wifi calling and searches for cell signal. This greatly reduces my wifi calling range around my house.All of my other T-Mobile phones keep wifi calling active until I completely lose wifi signal. Is there a script or tweak that can be made to make wifi calling active until wifi signal is lost? I have searched many times but I just can't seem to find any info. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Settings - More Networks - WiFi calling - Connection Preferences
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chreiton said:
I am currently running the latest version of Wicked rom. I have been using T-mobile for the last few years on several different phones. I need to use stock based roms with wifi calling due to the fact I have no cell signal in or around my home. I have been using my Galaxy S3 for the last couple of months , and I just don't get the range from wifi calling like I have with my other T-Mobile phones. When I get down to 2 bars of wifi signal my S3 drops wifi calling and searches for cell signal. This greatly reduces my wifi calling range around my house.All of my other T-Mobile phones keep wifi calling active until I completely lose wifi signal. Is there a script or tweak that can be made to make wifi calling active until wifi signal is lost? I have searched many times but I just can't seem to find any info. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Aside from Doc successfully answering your question, you may wish to check this out. It should increase the WiFi range of your S3 in exchange for a little of your battery.
http://gs3.wonderhowto.com/how-to/pick-up-better-wi-fi-signal-your-samsung-galaxy-s3-0144988/
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Aside from Doc successfully answering your question, you may wish to check this out. It should increase the WiFi range of your S3 in exchange for a little of your battery.
http://gs3.wonderhowto.com/how-to/pick-up-better-wi-fi-signal-your-samsung-galaxy-s3-0144988/
(Works on stock only too)
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Wow! I had long forgot about that! The only issue here is you will have to redo this every time you reboot as it does not stick. I spent a good bit of time on this back on ICS, but ended up moving on to other things. I just tested and on 4.3, it does work by just entering *#0011#, but as has always been the case, it turns back on if you reboot.
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Kinda funny to me how I keep seeing "New" info and discoveries when it was known about a year and a half ago! Lol. But then, I did forget about it....
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Settings - More Networks - WiFi calling - Connection Preferences
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Thank you for you response. I changed the settings in connection preferences, but i'm still not getting what i'm looking for. Even when I set my phone to wifi calling only, the S3 still drops wifi calling with 2 bars of wifi signal left. It must have something to do with the S3 wifi calling app itself. With my last 3 T-mobile phones which were a G2x, exhibit 4g and optimus L9 I was able to get 100ft + outside my house before I lost wifi calling. With the S3 i cant even get 5 feet and I lose it.

chreiton said:
Thank you for you response. I changed the settings in connection preferences, but i'm still not getting what i'm looking for. Even when I set my phone to wifi calling only, the S3 still drops wifi calling with 2 bars of wifi signal left. It must have something to do with the S3 wifi calling app itself. With my last 3 T-mobile phones which were a G2x, exhibit 4g and optimus L9 I was able to get 100ft + outside my house before I lost wifi calling. With the S3 i cant even get 5 feet and I lose it.
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I've found the wifi signal indicator to be far from accurate in terms of signal strength. For example, when you are at 3 bars, the signal strength might be at 30-40% already. 2 bars is a very weak signal, which is why wifi calling is disabling itself.
There are a couple things you can try. First is getting on the MD5 train. Flash an MD5 ROM along with the MD5 firmware. Get the firmware here: https://db.tt/5C5M8FpD. WARNING, it is the for SGH-T999 only and will brick you if you have a variant (n/l/v) For ROM, S3Rx or Dandroid, if I'm recommending.
Also, check with your router to verify which standard the phone is using. 2.4GHz has a longer range than 5GHz. Also, make sure it's not using 802.11b. Mine was doing this. Had to disable it in the router.
Keep the router away from other electronics, elevate it as much as possible. If the router has external antennas (like the Linksys WRT54GL), you can get high gain antennas (which do help if you know what you're doing), but aiming them properly is important. http://weekendtechnotes.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/antennaradiationpattern2.jpg for reference. Understanding how the signals work may help you in your situation. And remember, the more walls and objects the signal has to penetrate to get to your device, the weaker it gets. A few walls can easily half it's effective range. I don't know what router you are using so no more on this for now.
That's about all the information that I can give you without knowing more about your situation.

Great info from aerowinder! To add, if you are up for it, install inSSIDer from the store. Make sure you aren't using a heavily crowded WiFi channel. Should be easy enough for most to just look at its graphs and know if it's overcrowded.
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