I've found a really frustrating problem with the AT&T Tilt2 Version 6.5 software: It gratuitously changes from Mountain to Arizona timezones when it makes a data connection.
If I set the timezone correctly to Mountain, and then toggle flight mode, I find I'm in Arizona time. I've attached a video that demonstrates the problem.
The same is true if I connect to the 3G network, hotsync with my laptop, or go into (and out of) an area where I have no signal.
This is annoying now, but it will be really frustrating when Daylight Savings Time hits.
Timezones seem to work correctly in other parts of the US and (at least) Ontario. This may be related to the post where someone complains that their phone randomly jumps ahead an hour.
Currently, I've disabled automatically updating the time, but I travel a *lot* and would really appreciate not having to manually set the time whenever I get off of an airplane.
I've created a video (using MyMobiler) that shows the problem. I'm attaching it to this post.
Are there any other suggestions short of disabling autoupdating the time? Alternatively, is there a place where I can officially *bug* this? This is my first time with a problem so severe on my HTC devices?
Please accept my apologies and redirect me if this has been mentioned in another post?
Cheers,
You have correctly identified the problem by disabling auto timezone -
But, if you are on AT&T network, then when you get into a new or different time zone, the phone should automatically pick up the new time when it acquires a signal - there is no reason to re-enable the auto timezone.
Thanks, prubin! The problem with disabling the autotimezone is that the setting really says "Automatic change time zone and clock". I won't be able to tell if the clock really updates until my next trip.
So, it is a bug. Needs to be fixed. Doesn't seem to be an AT&T network problem because my original Tilt doesn't do it. Any suggestions on how to report it?
Thanks!
Same problem, same resolution for me. I do find it really bizarre that everybody I've seen report this problem is in the Mountain time zone, and it always picks Arizona as the place to transport us to.
Yup, same for me. I live in Denver, but my phone mysteriously travels to Arizona every few hours. I had to have someone else remind me in the AT&T forums to disable the autoupdate.
I'm in Mountain (Utah) and I've never had my Tilt2 transported to Arizona...
Ok,so how do we fix this or get AT&T to fix this, other than cripling our phones?
Same here, but for me it changes from Eastern Standard to Indiana. Indiana does not follow daylight savings, so I don't know if it will be wrong during daylight savings time or not. EDIT: Apparently Indiana has stopped this nonsense practice and follows everyone else, perhaps it's a non-issue for me, but I'd still prefer it to say EST not Indiana ;-)
I don't travel much so I should probably just disable it... I would think that this is something that ATT 'broadcasts' per-tower, it's weird that it's wrong.
Here in Colorado Springs my Tilt2 does the same thing, switches from Mountain time to Arizona time. I've done what everyone has done, disable to auto update function.
Whether this is related or not I don't know; every so often my Bing/Live search will "Locate" me in an area about 20 miles from where I am (using tower triangulation, not GPS) then on some days it "Locates" me in the right spot. Could it be something that's coming through the AT&T Towers?
On the East Coast, too
I just came back from a trip to North Carolina. As an experiment, I decided to experiment with the auto-detect-time-zone feature.
My trip was through Chicago, but the phone wasn't set to auto-update. It neither detected the correct time zone nor the correct time.
So, I set the automatic update once I was on the ground in Illinois. It correctly determined that I was in Central Time. So-far-so-good.
I left it this way, and wne I got to Norfolk (because my plane was diverted) and checked the time zone when I was on the ground again. Even though I was in Virginia, my phone said I was on Indiana time.
So, there are probably lots of people who have this phone (and maybe other HTC/ATT/WinMo 6.5 phones) who are on the wrong timezone and they don't even know it.
Are they in for a surprise next spring!
Tilt 2 in Mountain Time
I'm having the same issue on my Tilt 2, I live in Englewood CO, and the phone keeps wanting to move to AZ. (perhaps I should, nicer weather).
Tried applying the following update from microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx
no go, I've since uninstalled it. have a ticket open with AT&T. will keep this thread posted with my findings.
***UPDATE*** 01/05/10
Have spoke again w/ ATT&T support, and we 3-way'd HTC support, they are having me replace the device. considering it's less than 30 days I have to retrun the retailer. will replace the phone and see if issue continues.
the only troubleshooting added to the above is; HTC support had me disable the automatic GPS control in winmo, and preform a soft and hard reset (via clear storage)
***UPDATE***01/06/10
Tried SIM on new phone in retail store same issue, kept old phone. Did notice in the phone's registry that while the clock said Arizona time zone, in HKLM\timezone it was Mountain Standard Time Moutain Daylight Savings. Perhaps an old SIM or winmo 6.5 issue?
I too live on the East Coast, and have noticed this change to "indiana" time. While this has not been too much of an issue, I seem to have another problem with the clock on my phone, and I figure that this thread is the closest I could find to what I am seeing.
On certain occasions (has not happened often enough for me to figure out WHAT occasions yet) my phone loses time. I will be using my phone for a game, or surfing, and at some point I will notice that my clock is off by a LOT (like 90 minutes...not an 'even' amount of time). I am not doing anything that should affect the clock, but it displays a time that is way short of the correct time. It seems the only way I can correct it is either manually resetting the time, or a soft reset.
Has anyone else seen this, and is there a fix?
Same issue
I live in Lakewood CO, a Denver suburb and have the same problem. Disabling the "Automatic change time zone and clock." setting keeps me on Denver time. For those of us traveling less than we used to, this is not an inconvenience...yet.
It would be nice to see ATT/HTC fix this since it seems Chezstik confirms it is not intended functionality.
I have a new Tilt 2 as well and have noticed a couple of similar issues with the clock. It will get behind for no apparent reason, and today I woke it from sleep and the date/clock showed Jan 3 2000 and a completely different time. By the way, I am also in Colorado and the date/time change occured when I was driving thorugh the mountains.
From reading all the postings so far, it seems to me that this is a WinMo 6.5/HTC issue as I have the TMOUS Rhodium. (Did NOT have this issue while I had the WinMo 6.1. Since updating to the WinMo 6.5, this has been the pattern):
I'm on the EST (New York mostly). I disable the Automatic Time Zone (uncheck) setting, reset my clock time to EST -5 GMT. All is well till I do a soft reset.
At every soft reset, the Auto Time Zone is re-enabled, and my time would be set for Indiana -5 GMT. Tried "unchecking" HTC Location settings - no go. Even tried the "visiting" time setting. Same result.
Thus 'till there's a real solution, all I do is that for every soft reset, is that I know I must uncheck the Auto Time Zone setting, and change my time to EST.
In Atlanta, Eastern Time Zone with DST, wants to put me in Indianian, no DST.
Think DST is a joke, however, another story.
I was just was reseting the device after removing a app. As soon as my device woke up, I received a text from my bro from NY. All of sudden while my time was off. Check my location time zone and it showed US ET time, and I live in Hawaii. My Weather location was correct so it couldn't be the gps. I couldn't even change the location of the time zone. So, I add Hawaii time at the world clock and set it to local. This is just a temporary solution cause i get sms stamps really off. Please Help.
Problem solved!!!
I tried the Quick GPS app and my problem went away. Pheeeeww!!! Google searching all day for solution for nothing. Luckily i use GPS a lot that I bumped into Quick GPS to get more sattelites.
Incorrect Time Zones in World Time
I have recently discovered several incorrect time zones in the World Time feature of the device. All of them are near the GMT +5 time zone in Asia. The following cities are one hour off – some an hour ahead, some an hour behind.
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Dushanbe, Tajikistan
Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
Chardzhou, Turkmenistan
Islamabad & Karachi, Pakistan
There are probably many others, but these are the ones I checked in a search to get the correct time displayed on my device while in Tashkent. This is very annoying and difficult to work around as I’ve found that the time on the today screen does not automatically adjust in most of the countries I travel to outside of the U.S. even if the network is 3G. I usually have to select the city as the default manually from the world time menu. This is not a big deal, but when I selected Tashkent, I discovered that the time was wrong. No problem I thought, I’ll just select another city of similar longitude. I can’t find any cities in the database with a correct GMT+5 local time. I can change the time of any selected city, but this changes the displayed time of ALL cities.
I have installed KB975353 which I believe to be the most recent Windows Mobile daylight savings time update from Microsoft.
Any help?
Thanks,
Dave
FIX
It's an issue with the HTC World Clock... not with the android system timezones.
You will need to extract these files from your phone, which you can do only if you are rooted, with ES File Explorer (or another root explorer):
- /data/data/com.htc.provider.weather/files/WP_0409WWE.db
- /etc/WPDB.zip (then extract another WP_0409WWE.db file inside)
You will then have to open and edit them using SQ Lite Database Browser:
Just make sure that the timezone indicated for Bishkek is Asia/Yekaterinburg and the timezone indicated for Dushanbe and Tashkent is Asia/Karachi.
For some reason HTC mixed them up...
Once you edited and saved the files, zipping the second one back in, you'll need to push them both back to your phone, to the same folders.
Make a backup of original files, you never know...
Now the world clock and clock / weather widget should have the right time!!
One issue remains, if you leave it up to the network to determine local time settings, so uncheck that box. Still looking for a solution on this one...
It is not an issue with system time zones (/system/usr/share/zoneinfo/) but you can double check if the latest files are there. Others have posted on this.
Cheers!
Looks like my AFTV did not make it through the Daylight Saving change properly I've verified the time zone is correct, but the time itself is an hour behind now. Anyone else seen this, and hopefully have a fix?
I know you said that you picked the correct time zone, but you might want to check again. Mine was off so I went in to investigate. I found two time zones for my area MST and MDT. Didn't see that the first time when I set it up.
I'm at work right now so I can't check, but I'll bet that's exactly what it is. Thanks for the tip! A little surprising that in this day and age, the FireTV is unable to make that time change automatically.
Well, well, well.....this is interesting.
I just got home and had a look. When I go into the Time Zone setting on my FireTV, sure enough, you do have to manually set the time zone. Okay, no problem...I've been set to Atlantic Standard Time (GMT -4:00), so all I have to do is set it to Atlantic Daylight Time (GMT -3:00), and I'll be all set, right?
One problem--there's no listing for Atlantic Daylight Time, nor any other time zone that is GMT -3:00. In fact, the list of available time zones is far from being complete. It seems to only include time zones that are part of the USA and its territories/possessions, PLUS, strangely enough, GMT itself (which it describes as "London, Dublin") and GMT +1:00 (which it describes as "Amsterdam, Berlin").
Seems rather odd, no? In any case, it appears there is NO way to change the time manually, and no way to set it to be the correct time for my area of Canada. So...I guess I live with the time being an hour wrong for half the year?
There is a timezone utility on the market. It does not need root.
I've had a look around, and for the life of me I can't see what you're referring to. Do you happen to have a link you could pass along?
EDIT: Never mind, I must be blind. It's the TimeZoneChanger app, on the google play store. Works like a charm, thanks.
Ran across this to change zones using ADB/Settngs.db
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13883624/set-system-time-format-via-adb-shell