I've found a really frustrating problem with the AT&T Tilt2 Version 6.5 software: It gratuitously changes from Mountain to Arizona timezones when it makes a data connection.
If I set the timezone correctly to Mountain, and then toggle flight mode, I find I'm in Arizona time. I've attached a video that demonstrates the problem.
The same is true if I connect to the 3G network, hotsync with my laptop, or go into (and out of) an area where I have no signal.
This is annoying now, but it will be really frustrating when Daylight Savings Time hits.
Timezones seem to work correctly in other parts of the US and (at least) Ontario. This may be related to the post where someone complains that their phone randomly jumps ahead an hour.
Currently, I've disabled automatically updating the time, but I travel a *lot* and would really appreciate not having to manually set the time whenever I get off of an airplane.
I've created a video (using MyMobiler) that shows the problem. I'm attaching it to this post.
Are there any other suggestions short of disabling autoupdating the time? Alternatively, is there a place where I can officially *bug* this? This is my first time with a problem so severe on my HTC devices?
Please accept my apologies and redirect me if this has been mentioned in another post?
Cheers,
You have correctly identified the problem by disabling auto timezone -
But, if you are on AT&T network, then when you get into a new or different time zone, the phone should automatically pick up the new time when it acquires a signal - there is no reason to re-enable the auto timezone.
Thanks, prubin! The problem with disabling the autotimezone is that the setting really says "Automatic change time zone and clock". I won't be able to tell if the clock really updates until my next trip.
So, it is a bug. Needs to be fixed. Doesn't seem to be an AT&T network problem because my original Tilt doesn't do it. Any suggestions on how to report it?
Thanks!
Same problem, same resolution for me. I do find it really bizarre that everybody I've seen report this problem is in the Mountain time zone, and it always picks Arizona as the place to transport us to.
Yup, same for me. I live in Denver, but my phone mysteriously travels to Arizona every few hours. I had to have someone else remind me in the AT&T forums to disable the autoupdate.
I'm in Mountain (Utah) and I've never had my Tilt2 transported to Arizona...
Ok,so how do we fix this or get AT&T to fix this, other than cripling our phones?
Same here, but for me it changes from Eastern Standard to Indiana. Indiana does not follow daylight savings, so I don't know if it will be wrong during daylight savings time or not. EDIT: Apparently Indiana has stopped this nonsense practice and follows everyone else, perhaps it's a non-issue for me, but I'd still prefer it to say EST not Indiana ;-)
I don't travel much so I should probably just disable it... I would think that this is something that ATT 'broadcasts' per-tower, it's weird that it's wrong.
Here in Colorado Springs my Tilt2 does the same thing, switches from Mountain time to Arizona time. I've done what everyone has done, disable to auto update function.
Whether this is related or not I don't know; every so often my Bing/Live search will "Locate" me in an area about 20 miles from where I am (using tower triangulation, not GPS) then on some days it "Locates" me in the right spot. Could it be something that's coming through the AT&T Towers?
On the East Coast, too
I just came back from a trip to North Carolina. As an experiment, I decided to experiment with the auto-detect-time-zone feature.
My trip was through Chicago, but the phone wasn't set to auto-update. It neither detected the correct time zone nor the correct time.
So, I set the automatic update once I was on the ground in Illinois. It correctly determined that I was in Central Time. So-far-so-good.
I left it this way, and wne I got to Norfolk (because my plane was diverted) and checked the time zone when I was on the ground again. Even though I was in Virginia, my phone said I was on Indiana time.
So, there are probably lots of people who have this phone (and maybe other HTC/ATT/WinMo 6.5 phones) who are on the wrong timezone and they don't even know it.
Are they in for a surprise next spring!
Tilt 2 in Mountain Time
I'm having the same issue on my Tilt 2, I live in Englewood CO, and the phone keeps wanting to move to AZ. (perhaps I should, nicer weather).
Tried applying the following update from microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx
no go, I've since uninstalled it. have a ticket open with AT&T. will keep this thread posted with my findings.
***UPDATE*** 01/05/10
Have spoke again w/ ATT&T support, and we 3-way'd HTC support, they are having me replace the device. considering it's less than 30 days I have to retrun the retailer. will replace the phone and see if issue continues.
the only troubleshooting added to the above is; HTC support had me disable the automatic GPS control in winmo, and preform a soft and hard reset (via clear storage)
***UPDATE***01/06/10
Tried SIM on new phone in retail store same issue, kept old phone. Did notice in the phone's registry that while the clock said Arizona time zone, in HKLM\timezone it was Mountain Standard Time Moutain Daylight Savings. Perhaps an old SIM or winmo 6.5 issue?
I too live on the East Coast, and have noticed this change to "indiana" time. While this has not been too much of an issue, I seem to have another problem with the clock on my phone, and I figure that this thread is the closest I could find to what I am seeing.
On certain occasions (has not happened often enough for me to figure out WHAT occasions yet) my phone loses time. I will be using my phone for a game, or surfing, and at some point I will notice that my clock is off by a LOT (like 90 minutes...not an 'even' amount of time). I am not doing anything that should affect the clock, but it displays a time that is way short of the correct time. It seems the only way I can correct it is either manually resetting the time, or a soft reset.
Has anyone else seen this, and is there a fix?
Same issue
I live in Lakewood CO, a Denver suburb and have the same problem. Disabling the "Automatic change time zone and clock." setting keeps me on Denver time. For those of us traveling less than we used to, this is not an inconvenience...yet.
It would be nice to see ATT/HTC fix this since it seems Chezstik confirms it is not intended functionality.
I have a new Tilt 2 as well and have noticed a couple of similar issues with the clock. It will get behind for no apparent reason, and today I woke it from sleep and the date/clock showed Jan 3 2000 and a completely different time. By the way, I am also in Colorado and the date/time change occured when I was driving thorugh the mountains.
From reading all the postings so far, it seems to me that this is a WinMo 6.5/HTC issue as I have the TMOUS Rhodium. (Did NOT have this issue while I had the WinMo 6.1. Since updating to the WinMo 6.5, this has been the pattern):
I'm on the EST (New York mostly). I disable the Automatic Time Zone (uncheck) setting, reset my clock time to EST -5 GMT. All is well till I do a soft reset.
At every soft reset, the Auto Time Zone is re-enabled, and my time would be set for Indiana -5 GMT. Tried "unchecking" HTC Location settings - no go. Even tried the "visiting" time setting. Same result.
Thus 'till there's a real solution, all I do is that for every soft reset, is that I know I must uncheck the Auto Time Zone setting, and change my time to EST.
In Atlanta, Eastern Time Zone with DST, wants to put me in Indianian, no DST.
Think DST is a joke, however, another story.
Related
Does anyone have any idea - because Microshaft don't seem to have a freakin' clue - what the hell is the matter with DST and Windows Mobile Device Center?
I have a Vista laptop with Outlook 2007, and the Calendar is set to Eastern USA and Canada (GMT-0500) with NO Daylight Saving... as the Caymans don't use it... most of the equitorial Caribbean doesn't either for that matter.
I also have Windoze MDC v6.1.6965 which I synch said Outlook/Calendar data and various program data synchs - none of those programs use time information e.g. SPB Wallet.
The laptop Control Panel settings are also set to Eastern (US and Canada GMT -0500) with NO 'Automatically adjust for DST' as, again, the Caymans don't use it.
My phone is an HTC unbranded TP2 with their new WM6.5 ROM - although the DST problem was also the same in 6.1! - with my World Clock setting to George Town, Grand Cayman - I neither use the new 'My Location' feature, because that is an even bigger clusterphuck of a problem, nor do I use the local phone provider auto settings feature.
In Settings/Personal/Phone the Time Zones tab has a tick box option to "Automatically change time zone and clock" - this is left UNchecked.
In essence, both laptop and phone are configured manually to sompletely ignore DST for my local location (KY).
However, when I synch with WMDC it advances the clock on the TP2 one hour - every bluddy time! - and still manages to show every other timezone incorrect, especially those that actually use DST.
E.g. I have to call Bermuda and London, etc. regularly, and their times are wrong on the phone... both of them use DST (i.e. London is currently on British Summer Time = GMT+0100) so are (at present) 6 hours ahead of the Caymans, and Bermuda should be 2 hours ahead.
However, phone is only showing 5 hours ahead in London and Bermuda is showing as SAME TIME as Cayman... when it should be reading two hours ahead.
Just about to give up on it... or has anyone got a fix/patch
Surely if Mirosoft can program Exchange Server to get this right, they can get the damn system to work on pocket software... or is that too much to ask??
The old Active Synch program used to have a checkbox about adjusting for DST, but WMDC doesn't.
Have emailed HTC 'support' (and I use that word loosely) who simply blame Microsoft, whilst Bill's Boys blame HTC or haven't a clue.... or (best one yet) "can't reproduce the error"... like I'm making it up
Anyone? There's a week of coffees in it to anyone who can come up with a simple fix/cab/reg hack that doesn't involve:
a) reprogramming the ROM
b) loading a cooked non-standard ROM
c) understanding machine code; or
d) drowning the TP2 in a vat of boiling tar... however tempting that is at the moment.
Thanks.
I have a Tilt 2 from AT&T running Windows Mobile 6.5. I got it in October.
Sometimes my phone's clock will get behind, displaying a time that is an hour or more off. This morning, for example, I had the phone's alarm set for 9am. I woke up at 10am. When I looked at my phone, the clock displayed 8:30am. I power cycled it and it displayed the correct time.
My apartment has lousy cell reception, and I often have no signal at all when inside. Does this phone/OS rely on the cellular network to know what time it is?
Has anyone experienced similar behavior? Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
I don't think I can trust my phone to wake me up until I find a way to fix this.
Does this happens when syncing Rhodium with pc?
or it happens even without sync?
The phone does rely on the network to keep time updated.
You could always turn off the automatic updating of the time. That may help.
1. Go to: Settings > Personal > Phone > Time Zone
2. Uncheck: Automatic change time zone and clock.
See if that helps.
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Does this happens when syncing Rhodium with pc?
or it happens even without sync?
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I don't sync my phone with PC, and I don't have any push notifications activated.
The phone does rely on the network to keep time updated.
prjkthack said:
You could always turn off the automatic updating of the time. That may help.
1. Go to: Settings > Personal > Phone > Time Zone
2. Uncheck: Automatic change time zone and clock.
See if that helps.
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Turned off auto-updates as you suggested. Now we wait and see. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Clock falls behind, can't find the automatic settings
For the second time now, I experienced the same problem, where my clock on the Tilt 2 was behind. This time it was during the night and it was off by about 3 hours, and even missed the date change. The first time it was something around an hour. I don't know what's worse, because with the long time you know it's wrong when it's light outside and the time says it shouldn't.
The phone wasn't hot either, so, as far as I know it wasn't busy doing something else. The cell reception was fine here, and I was not syncing. To correct the problem, I looked for the setting to automatically set the time, based on the network. It's not off by precisely one or more hours, so it doesn't look like a timezone itself. Note that I have TouchFlo disabled, and I use the Windows 6.5 Today screen, so it might be a bit different. I looked through several settings beside the clock, but can't find it. Unless it's one and the same of course.
Any idea what could be causing this? Thanks for the powercycle tip.
I disabled what prjkthack said, I needed also to disable the sync option from Sense. This works for 'My Location' but screws other world clocks. Looks like a sort of 'base' clock is set wrong...
i have this issue with the tp and the hd2 both with energyrom.
att tilt 2 clock and date off when updated to new stock rom
hi iam having the same problems with my time and date being wrong everytime i softreset. the minutes usually always seem to be right but a couple hours off always and then you have to go in and manually set the clock. i also had to set the date when i softreset. i tried the my location button, didnt work. also called htc and talked to someone who said the time did have to be set manually, but i really dont think he knew what he was talking about. and it should have exact time from network and sat/gpr connections or even wifi? stange
Interesting. It appears that we might be fighting two different problems then. One that is a timezone offset (i.e. the minutes are the same, but the hours are off), and a full stall of the clock (with the time being off a random amount of hours and minutes).
clock advances one hour every night
Hi,
I have a similar problem with my clock: every night the clock advances one hour. If I do not correct the time, it will be two hours in advance after two nights.
This is since the night, where the daylight saving time ended.
Can anyone help?
I've had my phone over 6 months and two days ago it started having issues with keeping the correct time...
Odd indeed.
Maybe it's ATT causing the problem?
Go into Settings/Personal/Phone, then click the GSM/UTMS services tab. Click on "Time Synchronization", then Get Settings. If the "automatic change time zone & clock" box is checked, uncheck it.
That turns off the synchronization of the Tilt2's clock with the cell network, so that you can synch the time yourself. There are some third-party programs that will let you synch off a NTP server or the phone's GPS receiver -- I use Julien Schapman's Time Synchronizer.
It's not a att thing. I have the same problem since last week. I'm in Argentina and a couple of years ago we had daylight saving time. And the last year we had it we must change it on december 27th (the day it started to change in my phone in 2010. Now everytime i activesync with my pc it advaces 1 hour.
It's really annoying. And fyi my setting have disable automatic change timezone and clock!!
I don't know what to do
Cheers and happy new year
Ignacio
I'm in Argentina too, and having the same problem as Ignacio. The only thing I can add is that my Tilt2 started having this problem right after returning from Uruguay, which by the way, they are one hour ahead of us. My girlfriend has the same phone but she did not activate it while in Uruguay and she is not having this problem.
I really doubt it is just a Sync problem. I've tried every possible configuration and nothing. I wish it would be that simple.
We need a good chef for this one...
Regards
Fito
Offical fix: http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=1070&news_id=851
Or just install a ROM that doesn't have this issue (included this fix).
Im running mighty's latest rom as of now and when i try to do my location in the weather tab, it puts me in kingston jamaica or karlovac which i dont even know where that is. anyways google maps gets my location correct and within 20 meters. any one got any help? btw ive run quick gps, didnt work.
AFAIK, at least with the stock VZ ROM, location for weather is picked up from the tower location, not GPS location. So that fact that Google Maps works OK doesn't really help much. You might try posting in a thread for Mighty's ROM.
SecretAgentMan said:
You might try posting in a thread for Mighty's ROM.
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Now why would anyone want to do that when they can just start a new thread?
There is probably a Menu on your Weather tab. Check the settings and make sure you have enabled the Automatic Updates.
Did you enable Location Services? Don't ask what it is. Do a search and find out for yourself. You will feel much better about yourself.
It is 19 degrees here, so if my weather tab wants to put me in Kingston Jamaica, I will go get packed now...
I also have this issue - with standard HTC Rom jan. '10
Hi,
I have the same issue, different locations of course ;-)
My location places me in the middle east instead of western europe...
If it takes my location from my tower location it doesn't make any sense....
Help...
I'm getting the same issue, it also thinks I'm near Kingston in Jamaica.
I'm in North Wales, UK so was quite confused to pick up my phone see the clock on Eastern Caribbean time and 25C with thunderstorms...bit weird as it was snowing outside at the time.
Google maps also thinks I'm in Jamaica. Is this an issue with Google location services?
J
Kind of the same issue, but not really.
Ok, I kind of feel everyone's pain here. Since Sprint was gracious enough to release the Win6.5 & Touch Sense 2.5 upgrade (FINALLY, YOU SPRINT ********), I upgraded last night. Initially, it had said Minneapolis, MN. I am in MN, but not in Minneapolis. I am in Brainerd, MN.
Long Story short, a couple of times, I seen it actually default to Brainerd, MN. But Went to look again and found that it went Back to Minneapolis.
I guess what would really be good here is an application or extension of the HTC Sense Weather program that would allow for you to explicitly define what you want to see on your "Home" tab in HTC Sense.
Basically, the GPS, Tower, whatever it is... would be an excellent tool for travel and shouldn't be disabled, but only made as an option as part of the above suggested suggestion. If I could select it when I am traveling, and choose which city I wanted when I am not, this would be so much better.
Lastly, is there a way to make it updates it's location? Or even change and/or remove the "Detected" city?
Any Help would be appreciated.
This is really frustrating me now...
I've just moved house, and my phone is insistent on me still living in the old town. I can go anywhere and it will update to the nearest town correctly, but as soon as I'm back on my wireless network at home it always goes to my old home town.
I can remove my wireless network settings and just use 3G at home, and it gets the correct town. It's ONLY through my home wifi network that it chooses my old town!
Weather location
I think I have the same problem. My weather location isn't updating. I think it has something to do with the new radio 2.09
oedsdemeer said:
I think I have the same problem. My weather location isn't updating. I think it has something to do with the new radio 2.09
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Have you used any other apps (like google maps) to verify your ability to get a good GPS lock since upgrading to that radio? Somtimes after flashing to a new radio it's necessary to reestablish that ability before your My Location will update properly
Hey all, I don't know if this issue is the same as what I was having but I know how frustrated I was so I figured I'd pass along my results (I did finally solve it)
EDIT: crap, I can't post outside links. Go to AndroidForums and search for a thread called I feel like I'm in the effin twilight zone it was created by me (same username).
In my case (Win6.5 TouchPro2):
Open GoogleMaps, let it use GPS, let GPS get hold of the satellites. Wait for a few minutes, let it download the map to show your location. Exit GoogleMaps.
Now MyLocation is correct, hence weather shown is correct.
HTC HD2 weather location wrong.
uuuummmm, solution is embarissing.
Click on the time.
Choose my location (that will use the gps)
If your gps is not working, select your location.
Regards,
totter
So, last night before bed I made sure my alarm was on, and set for the correct time to get me up for work this morning. Well I woke up late and noticed my phone read 10:36 p.m. Monday Jan 17th when in fact it was 7:04 a.m. MOn 1/17.
This was very strange...I tried to refresh the desktop widget (beautiful widgets) and then I rebooted the phone, and even went to far as to do a full hard reboot. Nothing, time came right back up 15 hrs ahead. Very strange....when I hopped in my car I initiated a nand restore, and it's now functioning as expected. I didn't get a chance to look it over much as I was in a tremendous rush to make it to work on time.
I've never seen this before, anyone else?
P.S. I did just think of one thing, I'm using an AIRRAVE device at home, wonder if the info it was getting from it was all screwey. There's been times when my phone thinks I'm in Gilbert az. which is roughly 120 miles from where I live. Other times it's perfectly fine....strange!
Happened to me too, this AM -- and how I fixed it
This morning, my phone decided that I was in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and set the clock and the weather appropriately for that condition. This, despite the fact that I am in Hopkins, MN, and haven't been more than 50 miles from home in weeks.
I went to settings and repeatedly tried to convince the phone that USA Central Time was what I wanted to see. Depending on various conditions, I could get the phone to report the correct time -- or correct weather/location location, but not both.
So I logged-on here to post this fact, and started a post entitled, Time/Weather/Location -- STRANGE. The posting auto-search feature recommended that I check out a few similarly titled posts, so I did, even though none of them were in the EVO forum.
Only one of these posts had any suggestions.
1) Settings: Wireless & Networks: Mobile Networks: Roaming -- set phone to "Sprint Only"
2) Turn WiFi on -- it doesn't matter if you're actually connected to anything, said the poster, though I was.
Then reload the weather. Presto! Hopkins weather and CST.
I turned the WiFi off and the problem has not returned.
Give it a try -- and let us know if it works for you too.
And now there's a post about this weirdness in the EVO forum too...
Yeah, I too checked the three postings showed in the auto search feature, none were close, and moreover, none were for the supersonic/evo.
I Always have Sprint Only as the wireless network mode...and at home I always connect via wifi because the sprint service in my neighborhood is complete crap. So both of those possible fix scenarios were already in play at the time.
Another thing worth noting, is that at some point the time had to have forwarded to whatever time it wanted to, but what happened to the alarm...was it completely circumvented? It NEVER went off at all.....just something I was thinking. thanks for the post though!
Phederico said:
I Always have Sprint Only as the wireless network mode...
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Not the wireless network roaming -- the CDMA roaming -- it's further down the list. Maybe that will help?
Yeah, we're talking about the same one. :-D thx for double checkin'
Looks like my AFTV did not make it through the Daylight Saving change properly I've verified the time zone is correct, but the time itself is an hour behind now. Anyone else seen this, and hopefully have a fix?
I know you said that you picked the correct time zone, but you might want to check again. Mine was off so I went in to investigate. I found two time zones for my area MST and MDT. Didn't see that the first time when I set it up.
I'm at work right now so I can't check, but I'll bet that's exactly what it is. Thanks for the tip! A little surprising that in this day and age, the FireTV is unable to make that time change automatically.
Well, well, well.....this is interesting.
I just got home and had a look. When I go into the Time Zone setting on my FireTV, sure enough, you do have to manually set the time zone. Okay, no problem...I've been set to Atlantic Standard Time (GMT -4:00), so all I have to do is set it to Atlantic Daylight Time (GMT -3:00), and I'll be all set, right?
One problem--there's no listing for Atlantic Daylight Time, nor any other time zone that is GMT -3:00. In fact, the list of available time zones is far from being complete. It seems to only include time zones that are part of the USA and its territories/possessions, PLUS, strangely enough, GMT itself (which it describes as "London, Dublin") and GMT +1:00 (which it describes as "Amsterdam, Berlin").
Seems rather odd, no? In any case, it appears there is NO way to change the time manually, and no way to set it to be the correct time for my area of Canada. So...I guess I live with the time being an hour wrong for half the year?
There is a timezone utility on the market. It does not need root.
I've had a look around, and for the life of me I can't see what you're referring to. Do you happen to have a link you could pass along?
EDIT: Never mind, I must be blind. It's the TimeZoneChanger app, on the google play store. Works like a charm, thanks.
Ran across this to change zones using ADB/Settngs.db
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13883624/set-system-time-format-via-adb-shell