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Stock Jellybean > Custom rom: silly?

So I basically just flashed my yakjuxw build to yakju, to get my hands on Jellybean. The experience is more than awesome, buttery smooth and fast! Now, I wonder, what will (for example) AOKP bring to the table to make it 'even more' buttery and fast, etc? I'm not much of a tweaker, I just really wonder if there will be any SIGNIFICANT advantages over stock rom. It all seems a bit silly to me.

Every other Android phone I have had I've flashed all the ROMs available purely to try and have the stock experience or get to a new version of Android. I purchased the Galaxy Nexus so I would get all the updates when released and to enjoy the stock experience, I have no intention of installing custom ROMs on this device.
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Jason

aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.

atifsh said:
aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.
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So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?

gideonMorrison said:
So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?
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Watch a video or something. Aokp brings a lot of new features, such as customizable navbar, options to move your clock and change your battery icon and what not, weather and calendar on your lock screen. That's the type of things you'll see on a custom ROM.
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Custom ROMs are more about extra features. At least when it comes to builds like Jelly Bean. I don't see Jelly Bean needing much in performance enhancements.
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Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.

RogerPodacter said:
Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time

I am getting a nexus Monday. Right now I have a note. I have been reading the last coupledays to try and catch up but maybe I have missed something. Isn't there already good jellybean roms out already? Like Paranoid Android?

gideonMorrison said:
Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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Alot of roms use Rom Manager or Goo Manager to host or link to their roms, with goo manager you can update most roms like an ota update when ever the dev updates the rom on Goo.im , same holds true with Rom Manager though i dont recall which website is used.
As far as both CyanogenMod and AOKP you can use these applications so that you dont have to search for the latest and greatest, just hit a button telling the application to check for updates and if there is one it applies it for you and phone updates nice and easy, of course you have to let the phone reboot to recovery and what not but the entire process becomes automated.

gideonMorrison said:
Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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No not at all. Before jelly bean, I just flashed a loaded aokp and ran it for months and months. No need to upgrade. Currently JB roms need to be merged but once they are finished just flash one and go live life using the extra functions. If you are looking for a hobby then yes flash each week.
And as mentioned, most of the time you can just flash the rom update just like an OTA and you don't lose anything. Its just like an official ota update.

[Q] AOKP jb vs paranoid android jb

I'm currently on paranoid android ( CM10 hybrid) and I'm thinking about going to AOKP (jb). Here's the problem:
I'm having very little problems on PA and the problems I had were my fault. I've also fell in love with tablet ui. But that's all the rom comes with, tablet ui and dpi changer. Not hating on pa but AOKP has all those features I like. The problem is Im scared about getting those horrifying sods and rr on AOKP. Also I really like tablet ui. I've heared that tablet ui on AOKP isn't as legit as PA's. Or is it? That's why I'm asking you guys. Oh and don't tell me to run tw roms like the Jedi roms. Those are great roms and my favorite for sure. But I just want to try out jb for a change. So which rom should I choose?

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Tmogalaxys2 said:
I'm currently on paranoid android ( CM10 hybrid) and I'm thinking about going to AOKP (jb). Here's the problem:
I'm having very little problems on PA and the problems I had were my fault. I've also fell in love with tablet ui. But that's all the rom comes with, tablet ui and dpi changer. Not hating on pa but AOKP has all those features I like. The problem is Im scared about getting those horrifying sods and rr on AOKP. Also I really like tablet ui. I've heared that tablet ui on AOKP isn't as legit as PA's. Or is it? That's why I'm asking you guys. Oh and don't tell me to run tw roms like the Jedi roms. Those are great roms and my favorite for sure. But I just want to try out jb for a change. So which rom should I choose?
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I'm running Task650's AOKP and I'm loving it. I was thinking Paranoid Android but i figure why change. They are very close!

Tmogalaxys2 said:
I'm currently on paranoid android ( CM10 hybrid) and I'm thinking about going to AOKP (jb). Here's the problem:
I'm having very little problems on PA and the problems I had were my fault. I've also fell in love with tablet ui. But that's all the rom comes with, tablet ui and dpi changer. Not hating on pa but AOKP has all those features I like. The problem is Im scared about getting those horrifying sods and rr on AOKP. Also I really like tablet ui. I've heared that tablet ui on AOKP isn't as legit as PA's. Or is it? That's why I'm asking you guys. Oh and don't tell me to run tw roms like the Jedi roms. Those are great roms and my favorite for sure. But I just want to try out jb for a change. So which rom should I choose?
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I'm running tablet ui on aokp right now and I promise you it is just as legit as paranoid android's tablet ui lol. The only thing you really lose is the ability to change the resolution of the ui and the theming capability. But next to that you should be good. I'm running aokp milestone right now and it is smooth as butter.

[Q] Recommend me a rom?

Not new to rooting here, recommend me a rom. AOSP is preferred, but not necessary. I am currently using NovaLauncher, so if a ROM already uses it, big plus. Battery life is the biggest concern, even though I have 3 extended batts that I rotate. Awesome cool gimicky features are also a plus. Thanks, guys!

Honestly, it's all a matter of opinion. The battery life for most roms will be around the same.
At the moment I'm using paranoid rom which I love being able to adjust the dpi of each individual app.
My advice is just try them all, and just nandroid backup so you can always go back to one you prefer more.
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I would like to think that I've used almost all roms on my sprint note 2 they all have their pros and cons I was using Jellybomb for a while-so many options and mods-v15 will be released soon so you can add themes IMHO with all the mods and features it has it is the most stable.The down side for me was all the added apps almost made it seem as bloated as stock touchwiz, so I tried PAC man. Also very stable the dev is very responsive you get the very best of the best paranoid Android and cyanogen in one rom for those of us that just have to be on the latest and greatest version of Android 4.2.2. This is zero bloat as stock as Google makes for it's nexus devices. The down side is that you miss out on some of the features that make the note the awesome phablet that it is like multi-Window and the s-pen is basically a mouse. Currently I'm using NoWizAOSPmod v1.4.6 I get the best of both worlds, no bloat, multi-Window and s-pen support, several aosp features and Google wallet. Been using it for about a week with no issues so far. Best thing to do is try them out as long as you remember to back up your current rom heck try them all out I'm fairly new to roming so the hardest thing for me was all the reading and searching. Sorry for the long winded post but hope it helps.
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@op I use Carbon rom religiously and you can use an app called "write" for a s-pen like app and gps works over 3g but seems to go to "searching for gps " when switching to lte so I just use gps over 3g and has worked fine. Mms works for me with stock app, I just flip on data and send and receive pics.. I have been using the Carbon nightlies for a while and am more than happy.
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Right now i'm torn between Macsrom Allstar 3.5 and AOKP build 6. Macsrom is AOSP and keeps all my features but isn't as customizable as the AOKP. If i can figure out how to theme Macsrom i'll be staying with that. It does have some neat features and good battery life. Anyways i would just make a backup and start flashing different roms till you find one that works for you. I'm new to this and it's all pretty straight forward.

NOWIZAOSPMOD is awesome, I've been using it for a month or so now and love it. I waited a long time to flash a new rom because I like the samsung features espceially with the s-pen and multi-window. This rom is awesome because it looks and feels like the AOSP but has the samsung features that I wanted to hold on to. I highly recommend it!

I really like DigiBlur -- it's a debloated TW ROM with some really nice tweaks and mods. I use Nova to get around the crippling of TW due to all the lawsuits. He just updated the ROM to MC2 and it runs very nice.

Pac man rom 4.3

[Q] Which Rom should I select?

Im only partially familiar with roms and flashing(used to flash optimus V until I upgraded to a phone with no devs working on it XD ), I was fairly familiar with a cyanogenmod port for my op-V and liked that.
Anyways more specifically im not familiar with any of the devs or their products and was wondering which rom will give me the most preformace and lowest battery drain?
or is it too soon in the nexus 7's life to determine this kinda thing?
should I just stick with stock for now?
also if you have any words of advice or such so a new nexus 7, I'd love to here em.

just flash every rom out there and decide which ever is the "best" for you then stay with it .

What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.

dkb218 said:
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Options and features.... for example Cyanogenmod has a ton of features that the original ROM doesn't have. Also speed sometimes dictates switching roms. Alot of custom roms are striped down and are faster also.

dkb218 said:
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..

mmegalodon said:
Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
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I agree with this its what I'm using too. I love tablet UI.
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if you like stock and want the ability to choose what you want, cleanrom is great
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Very true what you guys say, stock ROM is great and all but I love to see all the cool features people put out in their custom Roms.
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I flashed every ROM that was available, that after I backed-up my original stock ROM. It's the only way you'll find which one you like the most. My 2 best options are ParanoidAndroid 3 and CyanogenMod Kangs, but I love the stability and speed of latter. It's all about preferences, just read a lot of comments of what users say and that also can help you.
Update: I love too much the custom ROMS, the customizing and the utilities they add are just fantastic. That's why I never stay with a stock ROM.

CleanROM if you just want a basic ROM like stock without all the bloatware.
ParanoidAndroid if you want a ton of features to play around with. Some are buggy at the moment and performance won't be as good as it would be with CleanROM but I think it's worth it for the features.

Best Roms on Nexus 7?

Just got a new Nexus haven't even powered it on yet, and I was curious what Android version has the best Rom support on this device?
Would it be advisable in your opinion to bring it all the way up to marshmallow or would I have more options temporarily staying on lollipop? Or is marshmallow just fraught with problems or anything to that effect? I had some devices in the past that just plain sucked for a while when the new version came out.
Thanks in advance. I did read up on several things but that's not going to compare to the experiences you guys have. I appreciate it.

If u want performance , better battery life and do not care about a higher number in Android version in about tab of system settings and fancy animations here and there, I suggest u go with Android 4.4.4, especially Mahdi 2.9 Final ROM with ElementalX 2.15 kernel and get a LP/MM theme from Play Store that is compatible with CM11 theme engine. Lollipop and Marshmallow are not optimised at all for Nexus 7 2013, they transform it in a 2009 device. But if u want MM or LP , I suggest Dirty Unicorns with stock kernel (Unicorn Blood) which is fantastic or ElementalX/Glitch Kernel.
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Pure nexus rom(6.0.1) runs flawlessly on my nexus 7... It went while on wifi 6 days no use and only used 20% of the battery with tapatalk running Gmail and YouTube along with titanium backup running every night...you can run the latest without issue or compromise. Oh running xposed also no issue.
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I came here to ask this same question haha.
I'm runnning Screw'd rom for my Nexus 7 and it's been pretty damn great to be honest. Apart from little glitches here and there, it runs flawlessly. (Okay maybe not little glitches, but sometimes I'll turn it on from standby and it won't detect any touch inputs at all, then I have to restart it and it works fine)
Thanks though Admiral, I think I'm going to try out the Pure rom and see how it goes. Also happy that Xposed is running fine. Hell yes!

I'm not sure anymore, I liked Tesla but that project isn't updated anymore for the N7 I believe, CleanROM isn't updated anymore either so I'm still trying to find which is best for me. I'm thinking about sticking to stock with maybe a custom Kernel for overclocking and double-tap to wake.

idCyber said:
If u want performance , better battery life and do not care about a higher number in Android version in about tab of system settings and fancy animations here and there, I suggest u go with Android 4.4.4, especially Mahdi 2.9 Final ROM with ElementalX 2.15 kernel and get a LP/MM theme from Play Store that is compatible with CM11 theme engine. Lollipop and Marshmallow are not optimised at all for Nexus 7 2013, they transform it in a 2009 device. But if u want MM or LP , I suggest Dirty Unicorns with stock kernel (Unicorn Blood) which is fantastic or ElementalX/Glitch Kernel.
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In the past I preferred Paranoid Android, Pac-Man and Cyanogenmod, how would you say this Mahdi 2.9 ROM compares to those in the way of customization?
I was looking to see what was available in the way of those on 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 the other night. Seems like the last time Paranoid was good was on 4.4.4 and Cyanogenmod seems like it didn't have any stable releases on 5.1.1 from what I can see but nightlys available.
Wondering 4.4.4 has a stable cyanogenmod? I don't mean to be lazy about dealing with nightlys (I have in the past) but I'm Uber busy nowadays. Still I'm a suckered for the customization lol ??? it's a terrible dilemma

DanRyan85 said:
In the past I preferred Paranoid Android, Pac-Man and Cyanogenmod, how would you say this Mahdi 2.9 ROM compares to those in the way of customization?
I was looking to see what was available in the way of those on 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 the other night. Seems like the last time Paranoid was good was on 4.4.4 and Cyanogenmod seems like it didn't have any stable releases on 5.1.1 from what I can see but nightlys available.
Wondering 4.4.4 has a stable cyanogenmod? I don't mean to be lazy about dealing with nightlys (I have in the past) but I'm Uber busy nowadays. Still I'm a suckered for the customization lol ??? it's a terrible dilemma
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U have all the UI customisation that other ROMs have on Mahdi and for me is the best 4.4.4 ROM with ElementalX kernel. Haven't used PA in a very long time so I dunno how the latest release of 4.4.4 is. I have never touched CM on this device because there is no Official CM maintainer for flo/deb and never will and if we get fixes and updates at mercy's will just because Google still supports it and no dev tests anything, I prefer to keep away from it. For example on 5.x.x there was a bug that was fixed after a few months
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