I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
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I'll see if I can be definitive for you....
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left.
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My guess is that you have a wakelock issue and if you are using baseband 2.15.00.11.19 in conjunction with PRI 1.90_003 I'm willing to bet that is the culprit. Downgrading the PRI to 1.77_003 takes care of it, by the way.
This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
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See the above response
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically.
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I wish I had an answer for you as to why that is. I can only assume that synchronizing with email, weather, social networks, etcetera could be major factors.
CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
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I had bad battery life with CM7
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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SystemPanel Lite & aLogcat are very helpful. With aLogcat, there is realtime monitoring and you should pay attention to anything displayed in RED repeatedly.
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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blizzard1017 said:
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
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You're very welcome and I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Enjoy your weekend, my friend...
One more app suggestion for ya--
Watchdog
It monitors apps and processes and alerts you if one goes rogue on you eating up your battery. I have found that in conjunction with system panel to be a great monitoring system.
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If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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If you never us 4 g try miui. I consistently get 20 hours of use regardless of what I have turned on. Good luck!
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My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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I like miui standalone apps but the whole iphone-esque layout I cannot stand.
I like sense. If it was an issue with I NEED battery I would go back to cm7. I would rather go beyond adjust your pri, and disable half your phone and see if there is a specific reason sense roms go all Monica lowinski on your battery. Haha
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blizzard1017 said:
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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You're on koni's elite III? Does that come with come with '4g' as one of the toggle widgets in the notification pulldown? If so, you can modify that so that 'mobile data' (3g) toggle will replace the 4g toggle. (if you don't want to do that, you can put a widget on your homescreen by going to add a widget, then scrolling down to 'settings'. Once you hit settings, you'll be presented with more options, 'mobile network' will toggle your 3g on and off at will)
If you do want to modify the pull down toggle, and you have Root Explorer, or another root level file explorer, it can easily be done. I don't think koni's III comes with a widget.txt file already, so you'll need to make one. I'll upload the one I use, which toggles GPS, Brightness, airplane mode, mobile data, flashlight, and sound, so you can use that as a reference, or modify it to you're liking. Once you have widget.txt made how you want it, you need to put it in /system/customize. You can do that using root explorer, or
adb remount
adb push widget.txt /system/customize
adb reboot
here's a list of what you can add to the notification pulldown toggles (6 at a time) And here's a link to the original thread, by JsChiSurf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836721&highlight=notification+toggles
(don't forget to pipe delimit them): Spelling must be exact, capitals matter. No spaces, and use | to separate them.
Code:
toggleAirplane
toggleAutoRotate
toggleBluetooth
toggleBrightness
toggleFlashlight
toggleGPS
toggleLockScreen
toggleMobileData
toggleScreenTimeout
toggleSleepMode
toggleSound
toggleSync
toggleWifi
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If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
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Disabling "Always On Mobile Data" is helpful. When you're not actually surfing the net or using data, it'll sleep saving you battery usage.
THere is a widget for data on Koni's three. Long press your screen/widgets/settings/mobile network and you'll get the data widget.
@k2buckly that's some great info, I appreciate it. Will hit the thanks button when I get on my pc. Gives me a new tinker project lol.
As well as others.
So my question still stands but I think we have established the culprit. Mobile data. Now what makes the sense roms so prone to mobile data usage vs other roms causing accelerated drain?
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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This app makes it a pain but I will. Essentially I would like to get enough tweaks and info to make one thread possibly a sticky for this issue.
This seems like the similar issue of the vibrant. We had to freeze all the drm, functions because they were always talking to samsung for verification. Regardless of having licensed products or not.
I would like to get to a point where we can get these wonderful sense roms to be basically fully functional with respectable battery life. Maybe just my own opinion but I don't think its right we have to essentially disable our phones down to being no better than an old flip phone.
I don't mind doing the research and leg work either. Im a year late on the evo so I need something to do haha.
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
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Nice, some pretty good info in there,.
madflasher said:
To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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This is the holy grail of what i was looking for. I am sure it was in the 1000+ page thread somewhere but I never found anything that explained the CDMA radio usage. I always found "turn off data". No offense to those who posted, the help was appreciated but I was just looking further into it then most do. I am more of a "why" person then a "i don't care just fix it" person.
As I said I am about a year behind on having an Evo so some of this info is DEEP into some searches.
Excellent read, I am going to try these out and have watchdog and system panel going. Before this read I have my phone pretty close to the 1% idle, I doubt I'll maintain that but it's close to satisfactory.
The best advice I could give is this...If you want a "Sense" based rom, I would recommend MikFroyo. The community has gotten so big, that he now has his own site themikmik.com. The reason I feel this is the best rom, is because everything is repacked, cleaned, optimized, and tweaked to the max...which makes for basically, the fastest Sense rom experience you could possibly have. There are also plenty of theme's, if your not one for the stock look (I actually am).
If you don't already use a custom Kernel, I would recommend netarchy-toastmod. His Kernel's have always been great for me, and with SBC charging too. I just ignore the SBC scare tactics. I've been using SBC since it came out, and have not had one single issue.
But the best answer to the "Why?" I could give you, is...USAGE. Unless there is and actual software/hardware issue your having, then all that's left to blame is your usage. Radios that are on, the signal strengths of them, monitoring software in use, and just simply...how much you use it. Which brings me to another point...it's cool to use stuff like Watchdog, or System Panel to see if there are issues, but after that I would recommend getting rid of them, as they themselves eat battery. I'm not saying the destroy your battery...just that they use it. And the more you have running...the more it gets used. The only "active" monitoring software I use is Battery Monitor Widget. It is probably the best app to monitor your battery/usage that exists.
I have never "downgraded" anything on my phone, always update my PRL & Profile, and have not ever had a software/hardware related issue. Then again, I don't flash much...I just stick with the things that work great.
You better try Azrael X v.40 rom, it give you a long battery live and also after you unplug your phone it takes a long time to start seeing any change on you battery status icon. I tried different roms and this one has everything working,my make concern about roms is "battery life" and speed. Also with this rom I always have wifi on, use wireless network as location, Background data on, auto sync on,exchange push mail on, weather sync on, and live wallpaper on. so far that's my setting and I can go through the day with a single charge. (I'm not doing advertising on this rom, I just want to let other know about how good is in Battery life.
I'm running axi0m crossbreed with Franco kernel (was on r98 when it started doing this, moved to m2 now and it's continuing.) and I seem to be getting a crazy amount of wakelocks from a few different things..
Modem_usb_suspend_block
Modem_usb_gpio_wake
Alarm_rtc
Musb_autosuspend_wake_lock
Event2-935
It's not super draining on my battery it seems, but i'm being kind of OCD about it I guess. Wondering if anyone had any information or ideas? Been searching around a bit on the forums but to no avail.
hi,
to find out which apps / processes are causing these locks you should install
BetterBatteryStats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
also try and search that thread for the locks you mentioned, i'm sure you'll find some useful tips
about the alarm_rtc wakelock;
install terminal emulator from market and type these commands:
- su ( followed by ENTER )
- dumpsys alarm ( followed by ENTER )
it will dump some info on your screen
scroll upwards a bit and search for 'Alarm Stats'
here you can find the processes that keep your phone from deep sleep
for instance...the process com.google.android.gsf (gtalk) has been running 584ms and woke up my phone 33 times --> look at screenshot
when you see a lot of wake ups you know you've got a problem
also...try to keep track off the apps you've got running in the background before turning off screen, i always check the 'recent apps' list and swipe away all the apps running in the background before i put my phone in standby
hope this helps you a bit
so what can i do to get rid of some of these wakelocks i have a ton of them lol 20 wakeups from gtalk 23 from phone and some others with 5 and 6 i just dont know what to do to get rid of them.
Thanks for the response about the alarm. Im getting this info from betterbatterystats.
The alarm one isn't giving me so much trouble as the other ones. The modem ones are the ones i'm more concerned about. I don't tether and keep my 4g off when not using it. Thankfully my phone still spends most of its time in deep sleep anyways, so it's not a huge issue. Just a minor annoyance.
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so what can i do to get rid of some of these wakelocks i have a ton of them lol 20 wakeups from gtalk 23 from phone and some others with 5 and 6 i just dont know what to do to get rid of them.
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don't worry about such amounts...you were probably using gtalk or the app was open in your recent apps list
do you get bad batterydrain? if so something else must be causing it
*check this post for example...if you're getting wake ups like this something is definitely wrong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23669485&postcount=3879
Thanks and honestly no I'm not I'd say about 14 to 16 hours with 4± screen on I was just wondering if it could be better lol
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Thanks and honestly no I'm not I'd say about 14 to 16 hours with 4± screen on I was just wondering if it could be better lol
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These are some great tips! I found that on my phone Light Flow had 3700 wakelocks overnight! No wonder my battery is draining like crazy. I was going to uninstall Light Flow but while looking in the settings I discovered that it had a feature to "leave app in foreground"turned on which is probably why this app has so many wakelocks. I turned it off and now I'm going to see if that helps. Thanks all who contributed to this post.
okay, to start off. i've tried to search the forum about multi tasking issue, but found nothing to answer my question, every time i'm doing something, then minimized the app to do something else, then go back to the previous app, the screen is not the same anymore, seems like its restarting.. is there a way to fix this?
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okay, to start off. i've tried to search the forum about multi tasking issue, but found nothing to answer my question, every time i'm doing something, then minimized the app to do something else, then go back to the previous app, the screen is not the same anymore, seems like its restarting.. is there a way to fix this?
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It's a new sense feature which hibernates the background apps in order to keep maximum ram available for your new activities. I don't completely agree with the idea. To accommodate Sense, which gulps up so much resources, so we end up with "iphonish" multitasking. Sad.
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okay, to start off. i've tried to search the forum about multi tasking issue, but found nothing to answer my question, every time i'm doing something, then minimized the app to do something else, then go back to the previous app, the screen is not the same anymore, seems like its restarting.. is there a way to fix this?
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HTC said its a Feature not a Bug, so I am not sure if it will be "fixed".
But recently I have heard that the newest update has modified this "Feature", the system can keep some certain apps (like browser) in background.
If the update wont work for you, maybe you can try disabling this setting>developers options>do not keep activities, then it will keep 3, ONLY 3 apps in background, but your 4th app will face the same "feature". And this setting can drain your battery fast.
Correct me please if I am wrong
Hi all.
I'm currently toying with the idea of getting a G3, but am concerned over word that the Nationwide banking app (and others I'm sure) are virtually impossible to use on this phone due to the screen resolution. Has anybody out there come across this issue at all, and if so exactly how bad is it? I use this app most days, and to not be able to use it would obviously put me off getting this fella.
Would appreciate any feedback you can give.
thanks.
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Hi all.
I'm currently toying with the idea of getting a G3, but am concerned over word that the Nationwide banking app (and others I'm sure) are virtually impossible to use on this phone due to the screen resolution. Has anybody out there come across this issue at all, and if so exactly how bad is it? I use this app most days, and to not be able to use it would obviously put me off getting this fella.
Would appreciate any feedback you can give.
thanks.
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I just installed the app but it hangs on the launch screen. Would've taken screenshot but they disabled the ability - never seen that before. Not sure why as Metro and Santander work perfectly (despite looking very ugly). Perhaps it won't start because I'm rooted and I know some bank apps and other e-commerce apps (like Arriva buses) don't launch on root. The old Arriva app did work on root and it was easy for ne'er-do-wells to create free tickets!
Regarding resolution: there are loads of ways to fool apps and the OS into changing DPI. My stock Lollipop is running at 530, not the standard 640. On KitKat you can use Xposed per app settings to change any app on the fly.
Thanks, I didn't think about changing the DPI settings. I'm assuming Xposed is an app and that it needs root access?
Hello.
Not necessarily a Nexus 5X question, but wasn't sure where to post it.
Over the last week or so I keep getting these crazy ad's when using Chrome (see attached image) where the phone keeps buzzing like crazy. I'm not sure if I'm accidentally taping something while browsing a webpage or it just happens at random.
Is there a way to stop access to the phones vibration and is there like a ad blocking system for Chrome like iOS has ad blocking plugins for Safari.
Cheers.
P.s After 3 weeks, still loving the Nexus and Android, if only could get some better battery life out of this thing, but I'll leave that for an other thread for an other day.
reeza said:
Hello.
Not necessarily a Nexus 5X question, but wasn't sure where to post it.
Over the last week or so I keep getting these crazy ad's when using Chrome (see attached image) where the phone keeps buzzing like crazy. I'm not sure if I'm accidentally taping something while browsing a webpage or it just happens at random.
Is there a way to stop access to the phones vibration and is there like a ad blocking system for Chrome like iOS has ad blocking plugins for Safari.
Cheers.
P.s After 3 weeks, still loving the Nexus and Android, if only could get some better battery life out of this thing, but I'll leave that for an other thread for an other day.
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Hi,
did you check if the pop-up blocker is enabled within Chrome? If so, try to install Chrome beta from the play store to check against.
Concerning battery life this thread is a good way to start. Of course, regarding this complex topic there is a lot to read and to check out, so you have to be patient
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Hi,
did you check if the pop-up blocker is enabled within Chrome? If so, try to install Chrome beta from the play store to check against.
Concerning battery life this thread is a good way to start. Of course, regarding this complex topic there is a lot to read and to check out, so you have to be patient
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Cheers ulxerker. I'll check the Chrome settings and try a reinstall. I'll also check out the battery life thread.