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[Q] Noob question about un-rooting

So I have an S3 that I had CM11 on and I switched from sprint to ting and need to update the PLR Profiles. I installed what I thought was a Touchwiz ROM (MOAR) and it wouldn't boot. But it removed Clockwork Mod, I'm back to the stock downloader that says "Odin Mode" with a Warranty Bit: 1.
Before I go further and flash a stock ROM (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533 ) with Odin I wanted to make sure this wouldn't brick (knowing brick anyway) my phone. Everything I read through search contradicts what I read before it. Some say that downgrading (CW11 is KitKat and I'm guessing this is JB or ICS since its from 2012) will brick your phone (Cant seem to find current stock ROMs), some say that flashing stock with "warranty bit: 1" will do it (I can't fix this bit count because phone wont boot), some say that flashing a stock ROM over a custom ROM will brick it. Of course for each rule there is 20 posts saying they are wrong.
TL;DR
Can I flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533 over a MOAR install on a phone with a warranty bit : 1 condition?
Thanks in advance,
Omega
PS - Thanks to all the Devs, been lurking here for years and using your work since my first Droid.

The tar in that thread is nd8 kitkat 4.4.2 for touchwiz. Once that tar is flashed you CANNOT downgrade bootloader or modem, you can however flash any rom you desire. Again be sure NOT to downgrade bootloader or modem, because doing so will hard brick your phone.
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TL;DR
Can I flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533 over a MOAR install on a phone with a warranty bit : 1 condition?
Yes you can flash this tar via odin. It will restore your phone back to factory settings with 4.4.2 touchwiz.

Thank you for the help and quick response! I am about to flash it now. I did have one more dumb question that I thought other people might not know and find this thread in search: Is the N8 the version of the radio software? The bootloader? What does it represent? When I good a 2 or 3 letter word like that, its useless.
Again thank you so much for the quick help.
Edit: Worked like a damned charm. If I could, I'd buy ya a beer. Thanks again.

OmegaNine said:
Thank you for the help and quick response! I am about to flash it now. I did have one more dumb question that I thought other people might not know and find this thread in search: Is the N8 the version of the radio software? The bootloader? What does it represent? When I good a 2 or 3 letter word like that, its useless.
Again thank you so much for the quick help.
Edit: Worked like a damned charm. If I could, I'd buy ya a beer. Thanks again.
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ND8 is just the build number by Samsung that they settled on as stable. I've seen am explanation of exactly what the letters and number means but basically I think it's just year, month and day but I don't remember precisely.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
ND8 is just the build number by Samsung that they settled on as stable. I've seen am explanation of exactly what the letters and number means but basically I think it's just year, month and day but I don't remember precisely.
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N =2014 - 14th letter of the alphabet (year)
D = April = 4th letter - 4th month
8 = Revision number/letter (I think)
I think that's right...it's late and I'm going from memory lol...
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Root 4.4.2 official rom beside CF-Auto-Root.

Hi all.
I was trying to root my stock 4.4.2 rom on Sprint sph-l710 phone with CF-Auto-Root with Odin. Root Check indicate no root propertly After device reboot and Odin indicated Pass. And SuperSu show "Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped every when try to run superSu.
Are there anyway root stock 4.4.2 rom beside CF-Auto-Root?
May a flash able rooted stock 4.4.2 rom??

Tekone said:
Hi all.
I was trying to root my stock 4.4.2 rom on Sprint sph-l710 phone with CF-Auto-Root with Odin. Root Check indicate no root propertly After device reboot and Odin indicated Pass. And SuperSu show "Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped every when try to run superSu.
Are there anyway root stock 4.4.2 rom beside CF-Auto-Root?
May a flash able rooted stock 4.4.2 rom??
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I'm in the same boat, I've been trying all day to get this to work. None of the Jelly Bean guides seem to work on 4.4.2. I just tried flashing the SuperSu via the recovery with no luck. Hope someone helps out, my Super keeps giving that message.

I install Philz recovery and root from from there and install supersu work better then cf auto root.
Is any downside by rooting this way?

Tekone said:
I install Philz recovery and root from from there and install supersu work better then cf auto root.
Is any downside by rooting this way?
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No.
And there are at least 4-5 rooted TouchWiz 4.4.2 stock-based ROMs including @CNexus' completely stock but rooted in the development (non-original) section.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No.
And there are at least 4-5 rooted TouchWiz 4.4.2 stock-based ROMs including @CNexus' completely stock but rooted in the development (non-original) section.
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Thanks for reply..
Since i have latest Philz recovery installed and do i have to worry about Radio, Bootloader, Traigle, Modem if I try to install custom rom etc?? I'm going to this S3 with Freedompop

Tekone said:
Thanks for reply..
Since i have latest Philz recovery installed and do i have to worry about Radio, Bootloader, Traigle, Modem if I try to install custom rom etc?? I'm going to this S3 with Freedompop
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You're welcome. Nope, nothing to worry about since you were already on stock 4.4.2 and using latest Philz. Just flash any of the custom or completely stock (but rooted) ROMs you want.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome. Nope, nothing to worry about since you were already on stock 4.4.2 and using latest Philz. Just flash any of the custom or completely stock (but rooted) ROMs you want.
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Thanks again bro.
Just checked my bootloader is ND8.. From now no.. i can flash any custom rom, hacking and do many thing now. thanks.

Getting late notifications after KK

I installed the OTA 4.4.2 stock rom from the forums and ever since my notifications come sometimes hours later. I don't have cell service and haven't for awhile. I leave the phone on airplane mode but with wifi turned on. It's the same way I used it under Jellybean. However now I have to often open up Hangouts and Google Voice to check manually for messages. If I don't I'll sometimes get notifications of new messages 1 to 6 hours after the message was sent.
Even opening up the app and checking sometimes won't force me to get new messages. If I hit the refresh button on Google voice about 3 times then sometimes it'll force it to finally receive the message.
Wifi works fine though, I can surf the web, stream music, watch youtube, update apps perfectly. Never have a hiccup or stutter and never had this issue until I updated to KK. Before I flashed KK, I did a backup of my apps with Helium and restored them. I wondered if that could be the problem. Not sure why it would effect the messages I receive on Hangouts or Google Voice and nothing else though.
This is the rom and procedure I used, going from stock 4.3 rooted to KK.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738533

Just to be 100% sure nothing else is causing weird issues, I would backup everything from your internal storage and external SD card, reformat your SD card, Odin the stock ND8 tar and the latest Philz Touch Recovery, then try to reproduce your problem.
If you can't reproduce it, root the phone (Philz Touch Recovery / Settings /Re-Root), then breakup the apps with data you restore into half. Restore only that half and try to reproduce the problem. Each time the problem doesn't occur, do a nandroid backup and restore another half of what's not restored yet. Once you can reproduce the problem, you'll have narrowed it down.
Once you can reproduce the problem, restore the last nandroid and restore half of what you had previously tried, etc. Keep going until you narrow the problem down to one, or narrow it down enough to make an educated guess from what's left and try just that one and verify that it's the issue.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Just to be 100% sure nothing else is causing weird issues, I would backup everything from your internal storage and external SD card, reformat your SD card, Odin the stock ND8 tar and the latest Philz Touch Recovery, then try to reproduce your problem.
If you can't reproduce it, root the phone (Philz Touch Recovery / Settings /Re-Root), then breakup the apps with data you restore into half. Restore only that half and try to reproduce the problem. Each time the problem doesn't occur, do a nandroid backup and restore another half of what's not restored yet. Once you can reproduce the problem, you'll have narrowed it down.
Once you can reproduce the problem, restore the last nandroid and restore half of what you had previously tried, etc. Keep going until you narrow the problem down to one, or narrow it down enough to make an educated guess from what's left and try just that one and verify that it's the issue.
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Thanks for the reply, I thought I had notifications setup for this thread, but I guess not. Anyways in the past 4 days I've flashed 2 different KK roms and still having the same issue. I've used Philz wipe and install option both times. I used a stock rooted rom first, and after a day of using it I still am not getting my notifications for Hangouts. I used another custom KK rom from the forum and flashed it as well using Philz wipe and install.
I've left the roms stock on both installs, except for signing into my Google account and letting the apps update. I'll send myself test messages and wait sometimes even an hour and not get any notification until I manually open the app and even then sometimes I cannot get it to load the message. Yet the internet connection is working and I can check email and browse websites without issue. The only way I can get it to load up any new messages is to reboot.
I want to try going back to Jellybean just to see if I'll have the same issue. Now that I've gone to KK though, is it possible for me to downgrade back to Jellybean? I know I've seen threads in the past saying downgrading will brick the device.

You can flash any ROM made for our SPH-L710 that you want without bricking. You just can't ever Odin anything older than ND8 or NDC.
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[Q] Status of freedom to install ROMs?

I'm considering picking up a S3 off eBay, since they seem to be rather cheap nowadays ( under $100), and was thinking of it as an upgrade from my Galaxy Nexus.
I've seen people with Verizon S3s and S4s get stuck after updating so they couldn't install any ROMs anymore.
Of course I haven't really heard much about the Sprint phones being locked down so much, but could anyone tell me if (even with the newest update) if you can install CWM and CyanogenMod?
Thanks

GTRsdk said:
I'm considering picking up a S3 off eBay, since they seem to be rather cheap nowadays ( under $100), and was thinking of it as an upgrade from my Galaxy Nexus.
I've seen people with Verizon S3s and S4s get stuck after updating so they couldn't install any ROMs anymore.
Of course I haven't really heard much about the Sprint phones being locked down so much, but could anyone tell me if (even with the newest update) if you can install CWM and CyanogenMod?
Thanks
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it would be better to install Philz Touch CWM advanced recovery from Odin and you can back up your stock rom when in the recovery then do the second option under wipe data to wipe everything but first make sure you have the Touchwiz rom and or AOSP rom + Gapps to flash in your internal storage then wipe cache and dalvik cache and your done so yes you can still install a custom recovery and custom rom like CyanogenMod

6th_Hokage said:
it would be better to install Philz Touch CWM advanced recovery from Odin and you can back up your stock rom when in the recovery then do the second option under wipe data to wipe everything but first make sure you have the Touchwiz rom and or AOSP rom + Gapps to flash in your internal storage then wipe cache and dalvik cache and your done so yes you can still install a custom recovery and custom rom like CyanogenMod
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I don't think you read through my whole post, since I wasn't asking how to do it, since I'm already familiar with Heimdall flashing (have been flashing on early Verizon S3/S4, before updates blocked it).
But the big question is... If you were to go to 100% stock (or a 100% stock phone to begin with), and have the newest updates applied(I think it is 4.3 or 4.4), you can still flash stuff, and not have it brick, right?
I know if I were to try the same on a Verizon S3, it would almost certainly brick.

GTRsdk said:
I don't think you read through my whole post, since I wasn't asking how to do it, since I'm already familiar with Heimdall flashing (have been flashing on early Verizon S3/S4, before updates blocked it).
But the big question is... If you were to go to 100% stock (or a 100% stock phone to begin with), and have the newest updates applied(I think it is 4.3 or 4.4), you can still flash stuff, and not have it brick, right?
I know if I were to try the same on a Verizon S3, it would almost certainly brick.
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but i did read through it i just answered the last part about CWM and CyanogenMod since that's what i know for sure
but you see for the rest of your words i have flashed on full stock 4.4.2 NDC since mine is the Boost variant with root and philz touch recovery....but only stuff made for touchwiz like the S5 ported apps just the worst i got after flashing is constant force closing of one or more apps for then i would have to boot back into recovery with the button method and flash a backup but i have done so and my s3 started with 4.4.2 stock update for the sprint variant even tho its the same model number i would wait to see if anyone else with it chimes in....but since it is the same basic model everything basically works the same way for them

Yes, you can still flash whatever you want besides modem. You just can't ever Odin anything older than ND8 (Sprint TouchWiz 4.4.2) or NDC (Boost / Virgin Mobile TouchWiz 4.4.2).
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Network Unavailable ND8

Hi all, I flashed the stock tar via ODIN then Philz recovery, everything loads and installs fine it seems. My wifi works as well as everything else however, I have not had any cell phone service at all. when I go to setting->self activate it says network unavailable. I've tried to do a reset and all to get the phone to turn on the network but I am not sure what it blocking my phone from gaining any type of network access. I'm not sure where to go from here, the Stock ROM unrooted as well as Custom ROMs have provided the same no service results. I hope someone is able to help me I know I didn't provide a lot of information but I've followed all of the ND8 and Restore guides that I could find down to every last detail and cannot seem to get this to work, After 5 days of trying I feel it is worth asking you all seperately because any searchs have only shown users with both wifi and network connectivity problems.
Thank you all so much!
Kennan Miller

Sprint, Boost or Virgin Mobile? Did you check the MD5 hash of the zip or tar? Did you try the Odin multiple times and without changing anything, not even custom recovery? By reset you mean ##72786# from the stock dialer? After the reset did you try update profile and PRL? Try the NDC tar instead of ND8, especially if you're on Boost or Virgin Mobile.
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I havent tried the reset with the numbers, i kept looking for the code and could not find the proper one for my carrier, but that is the sprint one. I have a Sprint phone, I'll do some searching on what the NDC is, I have not heard of that before.
Edit: yes, I checked the md5 before anything i flashes through odin or recovery etc. . i've done the update for PRL and profile
Thank you for the response! Kennan

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I havent tried the reset with the numbers, i kept looking for the code and could not find the proper one for my carrier, but that is the sprint one. I have a Sprint phone, I'll do some searching on what the NDC is, I have not heard of that before.
Edit: yes, I checked the md5 before anything i flashes through odin or recovery etc. . i've done the update for PRL and profile
Thank you for the response! Kennan
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You're welcome! Try the data reset first. After that it's normal to do an update PRL and Profile. NDC is TouchWiz 4.4.2 for Boost and Virgin Mobile, ND8 is the same for Sprint, which should be what you Odined.
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Hey! I'm sorry it took so long to respond back , I don't live in an area where I have service I had to drive into town so I could test it out! The code worked and I received service! however, I did not have any data/3g . I'm fairly confident when I have been to that town previously I had 3G, Does anyone have recommendations for that issue if it doesn't come back? sorry for seeming so needy, I would just like a few things to possibly try because unfortunately I have to make a trip into town everytime I need to see if I have service
Thank you all so much!!
Kennan

You didn't mention if you updated your PRL and Profile after the data reset. Try that if you didn't.
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