So I'm planning on rooting my LG G3 soon, (using PurpleDrake I suppose because TowelRoot doesn't work on the T-Mobile variant), and I will be installing Xposed after that. I will be keeping my stock recovery as well.
I want to keep my ability to update OTA however, and I know that there are issues with updating while rooted.
As such, will I be able to a) uninstall Xposed and then b) use SuperUser to hide root / or unroot somehow, and then c) accept the OTA and then optionally, d) re-root (if the root method still works)
To make sure that no system files are touched, I plan on freezing any unwanted apps through TB (and unfreezing them before the OTA)
Will this work? Is it possible to unroot without having to wipe data?
I am also waiting to root my Tmobile D851 and have the same questions/concerns. Will be watching your thread. Wish I had some insight but thanks for this.
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I just got myself a Note 2, but I have this question that I want to clarify about rooting. I've read about rooting the N7105 in the thread and I'm not looking at swapping custom roms or changing kernels of any sort. I just simply want root access to use Titanium, Cerberus and other root apps. However I'm also concerned about OTA. I want to receive these OTA updates.
The key question I want to know is, will rooting break OTA? This is asked in reference to using apps such as Titanium Backup, Adfree Android, Cerberus, Six Axis and other root apps. I'm not looking at changing any other system files. Can I simply unroot and will be allowed can OTA even though I have other root apps installed? Also how much do I need to be concerned with regarding the flash counter? Does triangle away work even with the updates? I definitely want to keep my flash counter down so that I can unroot and send my device back for servicing in the case of any hardware problems.
Its pretty obvious that OTA will break root although it doesn't seem too hard to root the device again after OTA.
TL;DR Summary of qns:
1) Does OTA break root?
2) If yes, can I unroot (while keeping root apps) and OTA?
3) If no, what extent can I go before I can't OTA? (e.g. are there root apps that modify the system files and prevent OTA?)
4) Does triangle away work with the new updates to reset the flash counter?
Thanks in advance, am hoping to clear up all my doubts before rooting my device.
EDIT: For background's sake, I have some basic experience with rooting my previous phone (HTC Desire HD) but wasn't concerned about OTA because it went EOL at Gingerbread.
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So I'm planning on rooting my LG G3 soon, (using PurpleDrake I suppose because TowelRoot doesn't work), and I will be installing Xposed after that. I will be keeping my stock recovery as well.
I want to keep my ability to update OTA however, and I know that there are issues with updating while rooted.
As such, will I be able to a) uninstall Xposed and then b) use SuperUser to hide root / or unroot somehow, and then c) accept the OTA
To make sure that no system files are touched, I plan on freezing any unwanted apps through TB (and unfreezing them before the OTA)
Will this work? Is it possible to unroot without having to wipe data?
It should yes long as system apps isn't overly modded. I plan on doing same as well as backing up system apps i mod and placing them back for ota
I don't have a G3 yet to verify..but we use 'boot unlocker' app to toggle root and tamper flag on N5.
Thanks for the responses guys! I wish that there was at least a small OTA update so that the people that are already rooted could actually test this.
should I use auto update if I'm going to root and install custom rom later?
For me only, once I rooted I purposely used titanium backup to freeze "system updates".
I still get normal app updates, but don't want any system updates, that may break root, until my phone is unlocked.
Ok thanks, if I update can I still root after? After the update if I do a factory reset will the update be lost?
An update can remove root, and patch the methods that a particular root uses to take effect, depending on what it does. That is why I am avoiding updates until the phone is unlocked.
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
What is the advantage of the update, should I even bother with it?
alfablac said:
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
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So I got my phone today and rooted it directly. When I was browsing through the apps, I saw it has an update but it didn't let me install it because the phone was rooted. So, I had to go back to stock rom with a kdz file wiping everything, which seems to be the latest rom right now. I'm thinking about if i should root or not right now. Will I have to wipe everything again when the phone gets another update? Are you all in this situation or do i not know something correctly?
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
If you want to use apps like g3 tweaksbox, titanium backup etc, you will need root! I think you can do so much more when your Phone is rooted, so i would root it immediately!
homer285 said:
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
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I also took an OTA for my F460S while rooted and it worked. My phone also is fine (it didn't die, crash or kill itself). When I get my next OTA I'll upload a video to show that it does work for some odd reason (only for a few people that I have seen). The benefits of rooting outweigh the drawbacks. If you root your phone, than you should be comfortable flashing a KDZ to restore it.
OTA updates often modify existing pre-installed apps, otherwise known as bloatware, so they check to be sure those targets are present and unmodified. If you have rooted but not deleted or removed or frozen any such apps, your system will pass that OTA test.
Some OTA's also look for su being installed, and hiding su can fool that, depending...
Sometimes the OTA is just mean altogether, for your protection.
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Hi,
I got my G3 and noticed that there are some pre installed apps I can't remove (especially McAfee!). Therefore, I want to root my device in order to be able to unistall these apps. I am new at rooting, so my questions are
-How can I get updates on a rooted device? Is OTA possible or do I need to install updates via a pc tool?
-If OTA is not possible, where can I find the updates and how can I install them?
-Does LG update app inform me about updates on a rooted device or do I have to check manually on web?
-Are there any reasons why I shouldn't root my G3?
Thank you guys for your help!!!
anydr0id said:
Hi,
I got my G3 and noticed that there are some pre installed apps I can't remove (especially McAfee!). Therefore, I want to root my device in order to be able to unistall these apps. I am new at rooting, so my questions are
-How can I get updates on a rooted device? Is OTA possible or do I need to install updates via a pc tool?
-If OTA is not possible, where can I find the updates and how can I install them?
-Does LG update app inform me about updates on a rooted device or do I have to check manually on web?
-Are there any reasons why I shouldn't root my G3?
Thank you guys for your help!!!
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1. i have read ota with rooted device is possible (only without twrp!) but with lg flash tool its safer.
2. for example here... you can install them with lg flash tool.
3. if you do not turn off the ota update information you will be informed about updates but i recommend you to turn it off.
4. i think no.
I don't have experience with LG, but with other phones I've had OTA's will work on rooted device ONLY if you have stock recovery and ALL pre-installed apps, including bloatware. So if you delete McAfee, OTA's probably won't run. If you use TiBackup to freeze it, instead of deleting it, there's a good chance the OTA will run.
But I think it's probably safer to not take OTAs, if for no other reason than the next OTA could break root, and then you'd be stuck with McAfee.
Question, though: can you disable McAfee in the Application manager? If so, you would't have to root if that's your only reason.
disable root for update?
thank you!
do you recommend to remove root before using lg flashing tool, or can I use it when root is activated?
If necessary, what do you recommend to remove root? Is SuperSu the best option?
@dusu84 I was not able to disable mcafee in app manager. I used Titanium Backup to freeze it.
anydr0id said:
thank you!
do you recommend to remove root before using lg flashing tool, or can I use it when root is activated?
If necessary, what do you recommend to remove root? Is SuperSu the best option?
@dusu84 I was not able to disable mcafee in app manager. I used Titanium Backup to freeze it.
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you dont have to remove root before using lg flash tool... you will lost root anyway when you use lg flash tool.
you can choose between two flash variants... "cse" or "normal".
cse will wipe everything on your phone... normal keep your apps and data exist but you will lost root.