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Anybody feels the S4 was rushed? Especially software wise?

So I've had my S4 since the 30th, pre-ordered it on the 29th at 3:00AM.
After using it now for about 5 days, I am pretty disappointed in the software. Basically none of the "COOL" features it has works very well, especially the head scrolling. Terrible...
The smoothness on the phone is so utterly inconsistent it bothers me till no end. 60 percent of the time, operations are silky smooth, 40 percent there is a motherload of lag. Simply closing an app will cause the animation to "stutter" as it closes. Sometimes swiping between screens will cause the phone to stutter, opening the camera sometimes is instant, sometimes it take a couple seconds! WTF that drives me insane on a phone that pulls in 12,000+ quadrant scores and wipes the floor with pretty much everything in antutu.
I blame Samsung, their TW is definitely not ready for prime time when skinned on top of 4.2.2. Seemed like a rush job to get the phone shipped with 4.2.2 so they can get the upper hand on the HTC One.
TW works absolutely flawless on 4.1 for example on the Note 2 and GS3, there was hardly a hint of lag on those phones. So what do you guys think? TW not ready for 4.2.2 or is it because it's not optimized for the new Snapdragon processor?

i had a s3 and a s2 and a s1 and all these problems people complained about was stil there. I dont remember tw being that fluid on my s3 i remember i couldnt wait to root it to add cm on it. A article i read said it best "Android phones have a reputation for customizability. And to a certain extent, they almost require tinkering to optimize the experience. Theres always gonna be something we dont like about our phones thats why we love to tinker and change it!

wasnt really rushed, just touch wiz isnt meant for performance as much as gimmicky features, which all work just fine for me.
Though the debloated wicked rom is enough to keep me happy for now. as soon as paranoid android or P.A.C drops for our phone im on them in a heart beat. I just need per app dpi to be happy, with any phone

Wicked rom speeds the lag up a bit and im sure things will only get better..
21k antutu score stock, 25k after wicked... Im sure an Oc kernel will help too
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I have 25536 on stock with bloat frozen, running nova. Its prety qiuck, but i do have issues with camera crapping out on me every once in a while
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nib said:
I have 25536 on stock with bloat frozen, running nova. Its prety qiuck, but i do have issues with camera crapping out on me every once in a while
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try wickeds rom

Will give it a shot when i have some time. Maybe will wait out till next release. I am sure we will see a lots of good stuff popping up here almost daily.
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"Anybody feels the S4 was rushed? Especially software wise?"
no.

I really don't know yet. I sold my N4 for it, got it online last night it will be here in a week. Hopefully I don't regret it.

I think it's perfectly fine. some people are just picky and complain allot!
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I actually think the software is rather well polished. The theme is still not my cup of tea, but whatever. Really the only few issues I have is with camera focus every once in a while and the little bit of stuttery animation which seems more like a governor/kernel issue than anything.
Phone is pretty awesome overall.

NICEGYPT said:
I really don't know yet. I sold my N4 for it, got it online last night it will be here in a week. Hopefully I don't regret it.
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i sold my N4 for it as well; and also paid my ETF from ATT so i could move to tmobile.
haven't looked back since. :good:
(side note: ***k you ATT)

I think it's pretty well done, the fact is the motion and smart camera tricks are always a little bit of a crap shoot, and they're so situational I can't really justify leaving them on to myself. So I just turn them all off, other than that I don't mind TouchWiz, it's very bright and cartoony, but I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily.

i do not think so
they will test it almost for long times, and someother funcition will be release to us in next OTA maybe, just as the apple doing.

[Q] Laggy phone?

Anyone else feel the phone is rather laggy? Pretty surprising considering the specs. Part of me is hoping it is just the rom?
I have tried the hidden menu tricks to no luck. I also rooted and installed seeder and that doesn't seem to help as well. I feel it is most obvious on the keyboard.

DynastySS said:
Anyone else feel the phone is rather laggy? Pretty surprising considering the specs. Part of me is hoping it is just the rom?
I have tried the hidden menu tricks to no luck. I also rooted and installed seeder and that doesn't seem to help as well. I feel it is most obvious on the keyboard.
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yeah it is kinda sluggish

I agree

Yes, it's kind of laggy and stuttery in comparison to my previous G2...
This is my biggest concern with this phone, deciding if I will send it back within the next 2 weeks.

This post is laggy

There are a few stutters here and there but generally snappy for me.

Switch to ART. No more lag.

No lag for me. I'm using SwiftKey keyboard and Nova launcher, lag is gone
(+ some kernel tweaks using Trickster mod)
Personally I found that switching to ART didn't make a difference. Final version of ART in Android L will be great, but this is not the one we're having in KitKat.
My previous phone was a S4 GPE.

Questions go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help
There's already thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752303 where everyone may discuss absence or existence of lags and ways to alleviate them

This phone isn't laggy nor it is super quick... it's adequate. If you want a quick phone go buy a Nexus 5.

Protagoras said:
No lag for me. I'm using SwiftKey keyboard and Nova launcher, lag is gone
(+ some kernel tweaks using Trickster mod)
Personally I found that switching to ART didn't make a difference. Final version of ART in Android L will be great, but this is not the one we're having in KitKat.
My previous phone was a S4 GPE.
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Will we be able to get this android L version as well as the final ART version on our G3 in the (near) future ?

Sepvr said:
Will we be able to get this android L version as well as the final ART version on our G3 in the (near) future ?
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we wont see android L till the end of january

jhericurls said:
This phone isn't laggy nor it is super quick... it's adequate. If you want a quick phone go buy a Nexus 5.
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I absolutely agree.

hello00 said:
we wont see android L till the end of january
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Ic, still a long time, but it is coming and it will aid in a better / faster LG G3? Just so i know if i should root mij phone and tweak here nd there. Or if i should just wait for the updates from LG itself to make the phone faster.

The galaxy s5 lags about 2x as much with half the resolution. Every phone lags.

I had a laggy phone when I first bought my LG G3. I took my phone back to the store and was going to return it. the salesman told me to do a factory reset first. I did the factory reset and now my phone is a super phone. No more lag. Faster than my Note III or my Wife's HTC One M8 hands down.

Keep in mind that some of the frame dropping is intentional... It's part of the power management.
I honestly can't wait until some kernel devs get some custom kernels out. Stock kernels tend to be really conservative. On my nexus 5, I'd see better performance and more efficient power management with custom kennels.
So it's a waiting game at this point.

[Q] I love my g3, but I cant stand the lag. What should I do?

I preordered my at&t lg g3 about a month ago with extremely high hopes, and coming from a jailbroken iPhone 5. Compared to it the UI functionality, battery life, screen resolution, openness of android, subpar camera quality, and many other features made me absolutely swoon over how amazing it was compared to that iPhone garbage. I have one really big problem with it though. Straight out of the box when I revived my lg, I have noticed major ui and app lag. Even after a month, the lag has remained persistent, even after many pointless factory reset and screwing around online to try to find a fix for the lag. I did root this phone, but I know good as well that rooting it did not do anything too the device to affect performance. I just installed some xposed modules such as removing the d delay between taking screenshots, the g3 tweaksbox from the play store (which I highly recommend paying 1.50 for three full version, it's Amazing), and getting rid of ads. The funny thing is, I expected my g3 to perform on par with smartphones with identical specifications, (snapdragon 801, krait 400, 3gb ram, 32gb memory). My brother has a galaxy s5, and I've run many tests between my phone and his, like app performance in games, opening/closing apps, antutu benchmarks, overall ui performance, and his phone basically destroys all off those tests against my phone. WHY?? I do realise that yes, the qhd screen does require more raw performance compared to fhd (I think I read somewhere it was 15%?), but most apps aren't optimised for qhd and put themselves to fhd, so why would a game like fruit ninja run at like 20 fps at fhd on my g3, and 60 fps on the s5, which is also rooted with the same amount of modules? And it's not just arcade fruit ninja either, games like temple run 2 lag when you get to a higher score, apps like tinberman open faster on my jailbroke iPhone 5 then my g3, and sometimes simple arcade games like don't touch the spikes have an occasiaonal stutter when you hit a spike, or just playing in general. I have also seen youtube videos of the g3 vs the s5 with opening apps and app performance, and they perform THE SAME! Plus the Ui didn't lag on YouTube either, my Ui scrolling between app pages (that's the Ui I'm mostly talking about, sometimes I also get lag in the stock browser and messaging app, but that's a different story) dips far below 30 fps, I would be able to tell if it was on YouTube because of the frame rate cap. I'm just fed up with it. I truly do love it though, in my opinion in has the best take on 4.4 kitkat I've seen, and coming from ios I still consider this ROM clean. Now for you, the xda forum what do you think I should do about my problem? I do not want any other phone but the g3. Should I unroot and flash stock Rom back onto my device and take it to at&t? I got this phone through the at&t next plan, so I'm not sure how they deal with warranties. Maybe they would give me a new device if I showed them the problems with it? I am running kitkat 4.4.2 if that helps.

Do what I did where.
Install the leaked 10j, remove the stock launcher and use nova. Also I you want it to fly do the high temp pro and thermal daemon mitigation mod. Be happy.

Like tntgdh I also put nova launcher and there is a little trick I use sony z2 live wallpaper from wssabi and set it to 60FPS. Phone is extra smooth. Under transittion effect od home screen i choose none or you can say generic google.
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You should notice smaller app load times, faster boot ups, and better battery if you switch to ART. However, Xposed currently doesn't support it, so you would have to disable it until Android L came along.
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Although there are many people out there who swear switching to ART does very little in terms of performance, I think it helps ALOT. Once i switched to ART i noticed the little stutters and little lags go away. My phone feels buttery smooth now. I also use nova launcher which is my launcher of choice, and it also performs buttery. I am very satisfied with its performance. Some may say I am just experiencing a placebo effect, but I think not.

fullyflaredfred said:
Although there are many people out there who swear switching to ART does very little in terms of performance, I think it helps ALOT. Once i switched to ART i noticed the little stutters and little lags go away. My phone feels buttery smooth now. I also use nova launcher which is my launcher of choice, and it also performs buttery. I am very satisfied with its performance. Some may say I am just experiencing a placebo effect, but I think not.
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Oh yeah it makes a difference for me too. I Decided to try Xposed after I changed to arp, so it reverted to dalvik. What a difference! I instantly noticed. So I ditched Xposed for now until it had support for arp.
One major thing was to install the 10j.
If you want something that will help a lot.. Install the 10j and use arp... Then if you wanna go further install nova and do the thermal mods.

tntgdh said:
Oh yeah it makes a difference for me too. I Decided to try Xposed after I changed to arp, so it reverted to dalvik. What a difference! I instantly noticed. So I ditched Xposed for now until it had support for arp.
One major thing was to install the 10j. The 60fps are making the difference.
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What is this 10j you speak of?

It's the latest leaked firmware. There is a topic here até the forum about the 10j firmware that has the mega link for it. Since I installed I have a beast in your hands.
Give it a try.

tntgdh said:
It's the latest leaked firmware. There is a topic here até the forum about the 10j firmware that has the mega link for it. Since I installed I have a beast in your hands.
Give it a try.
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Can you link me this 10j

dstenga said:
Can you link me this 10j
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You could do some search, but here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54757978&postcount=851

I use Google launcher and use every performance mod but i dont have butter feeling.

Kickoff said:
You could do some search, but here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54757978&postcount=851
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Are you able to use this for the AT&T version of the phone?

Moostafa29 said:
Are you able to use this for the AT&T version of the phone?
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No. It's for the d855.
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No. It's for the d855.
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Okay, thanks! The OP mentioned they had the AT&T version, so I wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. I'd love to be able to flash firmware and get rid of the lag on this phone, but it seems as though I'm stuff. I've tried every fix mentioned so far in this forum, but nothing's worked.

Moostafa29 said:
Okay, thanks! The OP mentioned they had the AT&T version, so I wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. I'd love to be able to flash firmware and get rid of the lag on this phone, but it seems as though I'm stuff. I've tried every fix mentioned so far in this forum, but nothing's worked.
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Yea same here. I wondered why it was mentioned being that the OP said he/she has an ATT G3.
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g3 over the S5?

I'm using the s5 now and while it has a beautiful screen and camera, I'm not to impressed with how battery life and ui fluidity. My friends offering me his g3, is it worth switching out based on those metrics? Has the g3 improved in usability with every update or is it just a hopeless mess?

kingofthebraves said:
I'm using the s5 now and while it has a beautiful screen and camera, I'm not to impressed with how battery life and ui fluidity. My friends offering me his g3, is it worth switching out based on those metrics? Has the g3 improved in usability with every update or is it just a hopeless mess?
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Try it for yourself. The lag to me is not really an issue. There ARE slip ups here and there but generally, it performs completely fine and fluidly. It also depends on what is important to you. The G3 is only slightly larger than the S5 but the screen is .4" larger and also sharper (though in most day to day operations, it's not noticeable). The G3 also looks nicer and the software is not nearly as bloated as the S5.
Battery life on the S5 will be better but the G3 can definitely last me a day with no issues. For some people, it will even last two days. If you have access to a charger at work/home, then it's really not an issue at all. I've never been in a situation where I've run out of battery and didn't have access to a charger, not even once.

Not sure about the s5 but I had the 3 and 4 and liked my HTC m8 way more. And the g3 even more than that. I'm actually impressed with the stock launcher.

kingofthebraves said:
I'm using the s5 now and while it has a beautiful screen and camera, I'm not to impressed with how battery life and ui fluidity. My friends offering me his g3, is it worth switching out based on those metrics? Has the g3 improved in usability with every update or is it just a hopeless mess?
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Its worth it! Don't wait until he changes his mind
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Mahapederdon said:
Not sure about the s5 but I had the 3 and 4 and liked my HTC m8 way more. And the g3 even more than that. I'm actually impressed with the stock launcher.
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I'm shocked anyone would pick the g3 over the mighty one m8 lol

kingofthebraves said:
I'm shocked anyone would pick the g3 over the mighty one m8 lol
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Haha. It's a sweet phone. I gave it to my 8 yr old. He's running cynogen 11 and it's perfect. I always buy phones on impulse. Without bootloader being unlocked it's kinda a Bummer but I'm playing with my new arduino and that keeps my flashing rom addiction under control.

The only reason why I didn't get the m8 is because of the poor after sales service and qc of htc. I had two m7s prior and they both had issues.
The s5 is a great phone but I'm not too happy about its fluidity. It always feels it's one step behind your actions. Like a home button press or an app switch would have one second delay. How would you rate the g3 vs the m8 based on fluidity? Almost at 80 percent?

Speed wise the phones are about the same. I used the backup I had from the m8 and using Nova launcher. So the setup looks about the same as the m8 and it acts just as well. Just bigger screen and way better camera. And I did the volume hack. This thing is way louder than my m8. Not the the quality is that great but it's a phone. If you want good sound use headphones or a stereo.

I've never favored Samsung or Apple, always HTC but going from the DNA to the M8 wasn't a worthwhile upgrade to me. HTC has bogged down the Android experience a little too much for me in the last couple years. I went for the G3 because of its sexiness and big screen and what I thought was going to be performance but have experienced a tremendous amount of grief on that front. I won't trade up my G3 just yet but I'm getting to the point where its a viable option and I may consider clone phones like a galaxy. I want fast and fluid and the G3 is just not as responsive as it should be.

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I've never favored Samsung or Apple, always HTC but going from the DNA to the M8 wasn't a worthwhile upgrade to me. HTC has bogged down the Android experience a little too much for me in the last couple years. I went for the G3 because of its sexiness and big screen and what I thought was going to be performance but have experienced a tremendous amount of grief on that front. I won't trade up my G3 just yet but I'm getting to the point where its a viable option and I may consider clone phones like a galaxy. I want fast and fluid and the G3 is just not as responsive as it should be.
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Have you switched to the ART runtime? I did that before installing any apps and my phone is lightning fast. I have yet to experience any of the lag people keep claiming this phone has.

redhooka said:
Have you switched to the ART runtime? I did that before installing any apps and my phone is lightning fast. I have yet to experience any of the lag people keep claiming this phone has.
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No I haven't, all I've heard is that android L will have art and I've used it once on a ROM for my DNA. I don't know the process of switching, only that I will lose xposed modules. How do I go about this?

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No I haven't, all I've heard is that android L will have art and I've used it once on a ROM for my DNA. I don't know the process of switching, only that I will lose xposed modules. How do I go about this?
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Just head over into Developer options->Select runtime->Use ART.
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MarimoMusicHead said:
Just head over into Developer options->Select runtime->Use ART.
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Don't forget to enable developer options first. IIRC you have to tap the build number 7 times in about phone.

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Just head over into Developer options->Select runtime->Use ART.
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I enabled ART and rebooted but its still set to Dalvik.

xlxcrossing said:
I enabled ART and rebooted but its still set to Dalvik.
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Try again. You'll see it preparing apps during boot if it worked. Takes a while.

redhooka said:
Try again. You'll see it preparing apps during boot if it worked. Takes a while.
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Didn't work...perhaps I need to uninstall xposed?

xlxcrossing said:
Didn't work...perhaps I need to uninstall xposed?
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Exactly, you must disable/uninstall Xposed to use ART, otherwise Xposed will switch back to Dalvik

Arkaknio said:
Exactly, you must disable/uninstall Xposed to use ART, otherwise Xposed will switch back to Dalvik
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I uninstalled xposed, noticed all my tweaks revert to stock but still Dalvik is showing in Developer Options

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Try again. You'll see it preparing apps during boot if it worked. Takes a while.
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Trying it now. So the only reason we are not on art yet is app compatibility for all phones?

G3 and htc m8 the best for this year
Don't wait to swap
G3 better than s5

sprint note 4 custom roms

When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?

Cyanogen Mod 12.0 is almost ready. That's a great custom ROM.

pmanzan1 said:
When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I dont think there is a real understanding here, either a rom is stock modified (no matter how modified) or aosp based. aosp is currently being worked on so all there is stock based.

pmanzan1 said:
When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state

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chaosrecords said:
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher.
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Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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BigJPNut said:
Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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Wheres zens debloated
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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I debloated it with titanium backup lol
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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Either you can use Titanium backup or you can use a few different roms available that come pre-debloated!

So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.

chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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I believe there is a fix for that however?
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chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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I believe there is a fix for that however?
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You won't have that problem if you use millerboys Rom [emoji41]i use it with no lag and I use xposed.
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chaosrecords said:
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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I agree with you on this. But even with the lack of custom roms, I really have no complaints with a custom stock rom because the phone is great right out of the box. So until 5.0 comes out I really don't see investing a lot of time and effort into making a radical custom rom with 4.4.4. and then having to turn around and start all over again when 5.0 finally releases. With this said, this is the first phone that I really don't feel the need for a wildly custom rom that "adds features". Other than performance/battery tweaks, I'm perfectly fine with it the way it is. Maybe this is because I've been messing with this stuff for so long and seen so many custom roms/projects over the years with several different devices, that I finally feel content with a device without feeling the need for a custom rom. Going with an AOSP/CM based rom pretty much cripples all of the built in TW features and that's the whole point of buying a Galaxy device with a Spen and all of it's features. Let's just see what happens when 5.0 comes out.

millerboy3 said:
I believe there is a fix for that however?
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There is.. many roms that have xposed built in will advertise "Xposed-proof" or "Xposed bug fixed"
I had no idea what they were talking about at first until i realized there was an issue with it causing lag with one of the versions

chaosrecords said:
I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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Great post, I have same sentiments and feedback.. I went back to Nexus 6 but still have hope for the Note 4. COME ON SAMSUNG!! Release the lollipop update already!!
More than the lagginess of the rom even on debloated rom (compared to nexus 6) my main gripe/thing I cant stand at all is the lack of dark themes.

Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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beezar said:
Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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Old post... yes, but in case any others stumble upon this while looking up stuff for their note 4's... xposed works fine with Lollipop Android. I run my Sprint Note 4 with the Note5 hybrid ROM with the Xposed Framework version 86.0 (custom build by wanam / 20160709) and have no issues.