I noticed that I have to reset the phone allot. If I am in an area with no reception for a while then go back to an area with reception it wont automatically reconnect and the LTE stays off sometimes. I have to reboot the phone.
The same problem is with signal strength too, it will not reconnect automatically sometimes. My 4G LTE does this allot. It does become annoying. I am afraid to get another phone in fear it will be worse then this one. I already had to exchange my phone and am running out of exchange days. (14 day period)
My first M8 I got on June 30 was slow, incredibly laggy and very buggy to the point it was nearly unusable. That first M8 had a mind of it's own. Maybe it was the first gen, I do not know. This replacement phone has been good to me minus the fact it sometimes drops calls and gets SUPER warm RANDOMLY even when ALL the apps are closed. The new phone is MUCH faster with the same settings and runs much smoother.
These connection issues are bugging the hell out of me, my iPhone never had this problem and would always reconnect fast. I do not like the S5 and I like the HTC but I do wonder about it's quality control and the quality of the internal components inside.
I hope its not hardware. I hope an update fixes the issue I'm constantly restarting.
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I noticed that I have to reset the phone allot. If I am in an area with no reception for a while then go back to an area with reception it wont automatically reconnect and the LTE stays off sometimes. I have to reboot the phone.
The same problem is with signal strength too, it will not reconnect automatically sometimes. My 4G LTE does this allot. It does become annoying. I am afraid to get another phone in fear it will be worse then this one. I already had to exchange my phone and am running out of exchange days. (14 day period)
My first M8 I got on June 30 was slow, incredibly laggy and very buggy to the point it was nearly unusable. That first M8 had a mind of it's own. Maybe it was the first gen, I do not know. This replacement phone has been good to me minus the fact it sometimes drops calls and gets SUPER warm RANDOMLY even when ALL the apps are closed. The new phone is MUCH faster with the same settings and runs much smoother.
These connection issues are bugging the hell out of me, my iPhone never had this problem and would always reconnect fast. I do not like the S5 and I like the HTC but I do wonder about it's quality control and the quality of the internal components inside.
I hope its not hardware. I hope an update fixes the issue I'm constantly restarting.
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good day - i have not had any of these issues with the m8 at all. has been snappy since day one. i have had little to no connectivity issues either. i have gone from way out in the country back into coverage, 2g snaps on immediately, then 3g, then closer to the city, 4g. my wife and i have a family plan and both devices switch within seconds of each other. different phone, she has the g2 but zero connectivity issues there too. we are in northern IL / Chicago market so it might be different. might be a dud phone? i do not think it has to do with hardware quality though. i went from an htc incredible that i had to replace a speaker in after 10 months but had no other issues with, to an incredible 2 that i had 0 issues with, to a S3 that was awesome, to a note 3 that was great, to the m8 which has been wonderful. my wife went from a blackberry that was crazy solid, to a S4 that was total CRAP, to the G2 which is amazing. if you can i would try and get a new one?
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good day - i have not had any of these issues with the m8 at all. has been snappy since day one. i have had little to no connectivity issues either. i have gone from way out in the country back into coverage, 2g snaps on immediately, then 3g, then closer to the city, 4g. my wife and i have a family plan and both devices switch within seconds of each other. different phone, she has the g2 but zero connectivity issues there too. we are in northern IL / Chicago market so it might be different. might be a dud phone? i do not think it has to do with hardware quality though. i went from an htc incredible that i had to replace a speaker in after 10 months but had no other issues with, to an incredible 2 that i had 0 issues with, to a S3 that was awesome, to a note 3 that was great, to the m8 which has been wonderful. my wife went from a blackberry that was crazy solid, to a S4 that was total CRAP, to the G2 which is amazing. if you can i would try and get a new one?
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Hey, thank you for the response.
I went to T-Mobile today and they Factory Reset my phone.
I left to mobile and they told me to come back within 24 hours there is a failure
I ended up having a buggy phone with artifacts and flashes similar to an overclocked GPU. T-Mobile told me it might fix the phone.
Tomorrow, I am going back for my 2nd replacement. I like this phone, it works much better then my first phone but the connection problems are extreme and it starting to feel like faulty hardware. My first phone was full of lag, it was factory reset and lagged on the machine as well. The machine(a laptop) even had to be restarted.
Some guy had same issue and replacing sim card fix it. You should give it a try
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I read (in the note 3 forums i think) that data dropouts were an inherent problem in android 4.4.2, and the code was fixed in version 4.4.3. Don't know if it applies to this phone as well, but if its an android system problem it could be.
This problem is really annoying happens too often.
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Yeah it's happening more often that I would like but it's not a daily thing
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It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault.
L.O.S - The only LOS issues I have had or continue to have is the same LOS issue My Evo 4g had, My wife's Evo Shift has. It is at the same location between my home and work. So I attribute this to a network issue not the phones.
Wifi signal - I will admit that the BARS on my ET do show lower than the Bars on my Evo 4g or my wife's Evo Shift, but it gets signal in places in my house that neither of those devices ever get signal and it does it while showing zero bars. It also gets faster speeds on the same network.
Battery life - I don't use my phone any differently than I did with my Evo 4g. With my Evo, by noon I was reaching for a charger or a spare battery with the ET I haven't been below 48% when leaving work. I have played around on it and got it down to the low 20's though but that is later in the evening. I am averaging 12 hours on battery with heavy use before plugging it in at night. It is my work phone so battery life was the biggest selling point for me and it paid off. I average 50+ voice calls a day that range in time from 3 minutes to close to an hour. I receive and respond to 15+ emails a day and send about 20 texts a day. I read the news for about 20 minutes on it in the morning and check FB about 3 times a day for 10 minutes each time. I don't watch movies on it but do occasionally watch a video someone posts on FB. I listen to Audible about 3 hours a day, which isn't streaming it's just playing the files on the phone. I rarely stream and when I do the phone is plugged in to the car and I am on a road trip.
4G - I have left the 4g radio on all day and only saw about 10% more battery consumption over leaving it off. I have 4g at work and most the way home, but not at my house. My Evo 4g would have been dead in about 1 hr if I left it on without being plugged in. I have noticed the 4g radio does sleep, not sure if it does on the Evo 4g. From my usage you can see 4g isn't that important to me.
Waking up - As far as the slight delay when waking the phone. It doesn't bother me because it doesn't interfere with the function of the phone. With the Evo 4g I had at least 3 sense crashes a day where I waited longer for sense to reload. So I figure if I add up all the 1 second pauses to wake this phone up it's still less than the total time waiting for crashed sense to reload 3 times a day.
This thing is blazing fast and has a beautiful screen. I am very happy with this upgrade.
I did however have one issue that I was able to trace back to an app or at least once that app was removed the issue went away. On my Evo 4g which never had great battery life, I had used the Xscope browser and loved it's usefulness and functionality, however at about day 3 of app installs, I only install 3 apps a day in case there is an issue I know which to look at 1st, I began to see a sever battery drain. I went from getting 12+ hours a day to getting less than 8 hrs a day. So I removed the 3 apps and behold the battery drain was gone. Xscope was my favorite of the 3 apps so it went back on 1st and bam battery drain was back. So I removed it and placed the other 2 apps, Flixster and Audible, and didn't see the drain return. Not wanting to place blame or start a flame war with fans of Xscope so I am just reporting that some of your issues may be caused by Apps you have installed. I know I have friends that dump 50+ apps on a phone the day they get it and don't configure anything. Then ***** that they are having issues like battery drain or slow internet when in fact it's a misbehaving app not the phone.
These are just my experiences and are not to be taken as Gospel.
Great post. I feel pretty much the same as you about this phone. Sure it has some annoying bugs, but overall it just rocks. You can't even make this bad boy stutter.
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It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault. .......
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Thanks for taking the time to write this. I've been fence sitting since June (when I was upgrade eligible) to make an informed decision on an upgrade. With Sprint snatching the Sprint Premiere Gold at the end of the year, I am really on the prowl to upgrade to a device that has a solid root (without issues), a dependable phone for work (it's vital that it just work), and it be that exponential leap over my aging Evo 4G. I was pretty sure this phone would be my landing pad but was scared off by all the LOS complaints and people giving different information on whether it was kernel (root) or factory radio problems. Will continue to watch the developments here (I'm in this thread everyday) and see what is on the horizon for Sprint. My Evo actually fills the bill except for the horrid battery life that chains me to a charger or USB cable so I have a few months to decide. Throw in the impending Sprint LTE revelations and LTE enabled devices allegedly coming this summer and now another quandary pops up. My next will be my next for two years so I gotta think it through. Again thank you for your constructive input.
Hey Nannuq...well said! Welcome to the E.T. sub forum!
Very informative post. I really appreciate your insight.
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I have had this phone since launch and I'm completely one hundred percent satisfied. I've had the hero evo 4g, evo shift, evo 3d, and now this phone, and I have never been as satisfied with a android device as I have with this one. Performance,Battery life, call sound quality, reception, ect has honestly been amazing. I used to change devices every six months but I don't see the need with this phone and I don't think I will ever buy another HTC device after using this phone.
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100% agree! This phone amazes me everyday. I was always a HTC fan, owing the original EVO, then the 3D, and even talked my daughter into getting the Shift over the Epic 4G. I honestly can say that I don't miss HTC at all, nor do I miss Sense 1 bit either. Samsung and Sprint did a great job on this phone. My signal blows the 3D away. In areas where I would be roaming with the 3D, the EpTouch handles without a hiccup. Wifi might show less bars, but then again, it still pulls faster speeds than my 3D did. I will definitely be very satisfied with this phone till the SIII comes out next year!
I love the phone but the wifi issue is incorrect. I have my router downstairs and frequently drop the connection whereas every other device (laptop, phone, ps3) has as great signal even outside. I think it may be the driver i'm looking into it
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This is far from scientific, but it's been noticeable enough over the course of the last 4 days that I felt like sharing.
I was getting terrible battery life. Also my phone got really hot when I used any amount of 3G. About a week ago I was messing with the mobile operator settings and set the phone to LTE/CDMA mode, and accidentally left it that way even though we still have no 4G here in Boston.
I immediately noticed all these problems were gone. After a day I went back to CDMA only and guess what? Phone became a george foreman grill again, and battery life tanked.
I am one of those skeptical guys that don't think that kind of voodoo usually helps. But it did. And yes I know the constant LTE scanning would supposedly drain more battery, but try it, for some reason.. It actually has the opposite effect. It'd be great if more people tried this and reported back.
I'm going to have to try this. Every once and while battery drains at a mad pace and heats up!
Trying it now and reporting back tomorrow.
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This is far from scientific, but it's been noticeable enough over the course of the last 4 days that I felt like sharing.
I was getting terrible battery life. Also my phone got really hot when I used any amount of 3G. About a week ago I was messing with the mobile operator settings and set the phone to LTE/CDMA mode, and accidentally left it that way even though we still have no 4G here in Boston.
I immediately noticed all these problems were gone. After a day I went back to CDMA only and guess what? Phone became a george foreman grill again, and battery life tanked.
I am one of those skeptical guys that don't think that kind of voodoo usually helps. But it did. And yes I know the constant LTE scanning would supposedly drain more battery, but try it, for some reason.. It actually has the opposite effect. It'd be great if more people tried this and reported back.
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Thanks for the tip. I'm south of Boston and can get wimax in north weymouth, braintree, etc and have been really struggling for the past 12 days about whether or not to go back to the e4gt.
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It might be truth I been having better battery life this past few days after flashing AOKP b35 I forgot to put CDMA ONLY and battery life has been better for some reason weird and thanks for sharing
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I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
Had mine for 2 weeks, HT24VW - Made in Taiwan
1. Signal and reception has been perfect might be first models.
2. Read somewhere the multitasking has been fixed with custom rom
3. Mine never gets hot, played 20 min of GTA3 and you would call it warm.
4. Screen Flickering - Havent seen any even at low battery.
Battery: heavy use i would get 3:30 on screen(using 3G all day no wifi). Medium use: i had once 4:45 but. Totally happy with the HOX gets me through one day easy and that's all it need to do, every night it goes on charge regardless if its 70% charge left or 10% charge.
Im picking up a unit with sh23 serial is that one good?
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I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Better than Galaxy S2, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus IMO. Except from Sensation, my Desire and One X performs the best in terms of signal(wifi, data) and reception. Infact, i have data drops the most on Galaxy Nexus cuz of 4.0.4 update(omg so frustrating!)
2. This is yeah a problem i think but 1.29 update kinda fix this, generally. after 1.29, i'm having the same experience as Gnex multitasking. well that is based on my usage.
3. Heating? hmm i got this in any smartphones i own these days except tablets. My SGS2 and Gnexus got hot the most cuz they are slim. But then, using twitter and facebook never gets hot in any of my smartphones. Just heavy browsing and gaming will increase the heat.
4. I dont have screen flickering but some says the custom kernels fix them so i think its not a hardware issue.
i have a sh24 models, and btw, sold my Gnexus for the sake of One X. I never regret it.
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should be okay although 23 is quite an early model.
25+ are generally considered to be more fault free but then i have a HT23 and it's fine.
I should have added i came from a G Nexus and it's (the one x) is in a completely different league. The screen alone is just simply jaw dropping.
best phone and wifi signal i've ever had on my release day (UK) HOX
screen flicker was addressed in the 1.29.xxx.11 update and has been resolved
kingofthebraves said:
I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Signal and reception has been perfect since day one for me, I had a Galaxy Nexus before my One X and the reception is definitely on par (can't say whether it's better or not, never done a proper test).
2. Multi-tasking was never a real issue and was only more of a mild annoyance because it was set to be far too aggresive. This was allegedly fixed through OTA's and is definitely fixed in custom ROMs.
3. Overheating can be a problem when playing games but if you're rooted you can disable 2 of the CPU cores (4 is overkill) which drastically reduces the heat problem.
4. Can't really comment on this as only the minority of users have experienced it.
The screen on the One X will blow you away after the Galaxy Nexus, trust me!
This phone craps all over anything I've had, sure it's newer better faster but it's leap years ahead of my last phone, the HTC Velocity, and that came out only a few months beforehand.
I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
-Div
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I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
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Me too... I know Google is going to revamp Motorola to a large degree but i hope they still make small sleek versions of all of their lines like they did with the new RAZR line
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After configurating most of my apps i'm getting severe lag when typing.. Its not registering my typing until 1 second or so afterwards.. and sometimes going in and out of various apps that are already loaded in memory is pretty sluggish and laggy. Freshly RSD'd the latest 4.1.2 build.. So i'm not sure whats going on.
The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.
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The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.
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I suppose I could say that so far I like the RAZR M over other Android phones that I have had. To list I've had:
HTC Thunderbolt, Motorola Defy XT, DROID 2 Global, DROID X, and DROID RAZR M
I miss various features from all of them, but I think overall I prefer the one I have now being the RAZR M. I'm not sure what my next phone will be. My current contract isn't up until December 2014, unless I pay full price for my next phone.
Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone
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Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone
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Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(
I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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I've also noticed that the Seeder program doesn't seem to help much. I've had lag with the keyboard too, especially waiting for it to pop up when I tap on a text field. It takes a second or even two. And the first few letters are laggy, but I'm using swiftkey. This phone does get hot when tethering, but I think I was able to charge my phone at same time.
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Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(
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I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best
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I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best
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Really hope you are able to fix it; If you didn't know, and I apologize is if you already knew this information
Power + Vol Up + Vol Down to get into Fastboot, then just use fastboot/adb binaries or rsdlite :}
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I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap. I'm getting no lag at all on CM 10.1, and it seems to be nicer on the battery.
The tethering situation sounds odd... I would say check your charger but it appears you've done that. I can tether and charge happily, so it seems like there's something up with the device. Doesn't make sense at all because I'm in an awful coverage area and I tether fine on 1-2 bars 3g and even 1x
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sloosecannon said:
Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap.
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Is this not true with most oem launchers? I can't recall a phone I've not switched to either ADW (a few years ago) or Apex, nowdays.
I've owned a Incredible 2, Droid X2, Razr, Galaxy S3, and currently a Razr M. What drove me away from the phones before the Razr M was a mix of A) the stock software being terrible, and B) homebrew support missing or terribly buggy. Lets be honest - 3rd party roms don't live up to stock roms in terms of stability. What you may gain in customizability in roms like Cyanogen or AOKP, you lose in stability or even battery life. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but that's my opinion.
Anyway, as for the Razr M - it's one of the few phones that I think has an acceptable build quality. METAL for the casing, the only better-built hardware than that is an iPhone 4 or 5. The 'kevlar' back is a gimmick and the gorilla glass or whatever screen is standard now but I can't complain.
Hopefully if Google changes the look of Moto's phones, they'll stick with a similar build.
That being said, I do have a few issues with my M - Sometimes it wants to stay on 3G in an area I have decent (although weak) 4G service and I need to toggle airplane mode to get it on 4G. And the plastic bit around the headphone port fell out.
All I'm gonna say is sometimes I effing hate this phone and other times I'm freaking pumped about its strength. Its like that hoop-d Honda you won't admit is yours but when you are driving you feel like its a Ferrari.
I was so bummed to go from the g-nex to this when I saw the dev on it, but now I have been feeling motivated to learn to dev myself for it! I love this device through and through... It has taken the biggest beating thus far, and I have beat up some phones...
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Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!
stealthj said:
Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!
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Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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Leraeniesh said:
Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit
stealthj said:
I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit
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I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.
dingurt said:
I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.
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Those are just the signal bars. The actual signal is the same.
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Hmm... I'll check that again then.
My Pixel C is due to be delivered in the next couple of hours and I have a few questions for you seasoned owners:
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader given the 30 second delay and any problems this might cause getting Nougat?
Just how bad is wifi for you now? (This could be a major issue for me as I use my Nexus 10 in my garden at the absolute limit of coverage.)
And does the latest (final) developer preview make for a decent daily driver?
Thanks in advance.
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My Pixel C is due to be delivered in the next couple of hours and I have a few questions for you seasoned owners:
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader given the 30 second delay and any problems this might cause getting Nougat?
Just how bad is wifi for you now? (This could be a major issue for me as I use my Nexus 10 in my garden at the absolute limit of coverage.)
And does the latest (final) developer preview make for a decent daily driver?
Thanks in advance.
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DP5 is very stable and worth the change. I have not unlocked my bootloader due to the delay.
The WiFi is bad. Really bad in my opinion
The bootloader delay is annoying if you restart your tablet a lot, but why should you do? So if you are not shutting down your device at night or every time you dont need it, it should be fine.
The 30-second delay is trivial (to me.) I think it's an odd and intrusive choice, but it's never been a big deal.
I've never had any trouble with the wifi, although it sounds like the mileage varies. I don't usually care how many bars there are as long as it's not dropping off.
So far, I'm very impressed. I've tested the WiFi and, although the speed drops off, the range is really good, probably better than my Nexus 10.
I'm not going to unlock the bootloader, so far I see no reason to.
Nougat is great, zero issues.
2 apps won't work and one screams on loading, but that's about par when moving between devices.
It looks and feels like a really premium device, in real terms it costs the same as my Nexus 10 did at the time but this comes with a keyboard!
I just got my replacement and the latest build of Nougat is awesome, I've been using it as my DD without issue. I can't attest to the wifi because my apartment is small and my neighborhood is crowded.
My main problem is transferring files and getting ADB to recognise the device - I've had both working and now neither is, which is really puzzling and frustrating!
WiFi is bad on mine, on the latest N preview. It picks up my WiFi, but the speed drops from 36mb to anywhere between 2 and 10
This is with the router in the next room
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WiFi is bad on mine, on the latest N preview. It picks up my WiFi, but the speed drops from 36mb to anywhere between 2 and 10
This is with the router in the next room
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The wifi has been driving me crazy, frequent drop outs, massive speed drops over distance - I'm returning it; which is really frustrating as everything else about it feels so premium, but to release a device they know is so badly flawed and still charge so much for it?!
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My main problem is transferring files and getting ADB to recognise the device - I've had both working and now neither is, which is really puzzling and frustrating!
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If you're using Windows, check device manager and make sure the drivers are installed.
if you're thrilled about the device (like i do) file an RMA with google and they'll send you a refurb but updated Pixel C (serial# should start with 620xxx). I assumed that those with horrific wifi or screen problem probably has one with a serial number beginning with 5A or 5B. Check this thread to see if the one you have is cursed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/mapping-problems-to-serial-t3274660
Got my replacement yesterday and so far wifi has significantly improved. When im in the backyard, i noticed that wifi would disconnect about every 10-15min but with the new serial#620, wifi strength is about the same but I have not experience any disconnect around the same place. Hopefully the screen issue hold up on this one as well...
As for bootloader, I have a rooted phone with unlocked bootloader as my main so I'd keep the Pixel C completely stock. I havent found a need to do anything to it yet.
I've had my pixel c since it was released. Don't have any issue with it on wifi... this includes using it throughout a 2500 sqft house that is old construction (lots of natural signal blockers) and in back or front yard. It works about as well as an iPad does in the same environment, perhaps a little slower max speed at the more distant range, but no drop-outs and fast enough to handle HD streaming at the same distances.
For an android tablet I'd still consider it the best that is out there, although the nvidia shield is a cheaper option.
My serial number is 5A22000040. I bought mine in May and have not experienced any of the problems I read here. No screen tints or light leaks. My WiFi has never been an issue. I have run SpeedTest several times and the Pixel does the same as other WiFi devices I have.
I do get a screen blink out every now and again (more than a flicker) but I only seem to notice it when playing Spider Solitaire so I think it is application dependent. Otherwise, this tablet is smoking.
And for a bonus, I through my tablet into my Harley saddlebag (inside a Glock hand bag) and have ridden for days, using the tablet for nightly movie entertainment. I would say I stress it pretty well.
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I sent mine back as the wifi issues made it too annoying to use, the money was refunded as soon as UPS collected the packages - suggesting Google knew my machine was a dodgy one?