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Upgrading to evo just have some questions.

I have been using the sprint hero for a while now and after flashing the rom i like it works really smooth (for the most part) took a trip to Houston and the maps app really helped out down there. But one thing that really bothers me is how sometimes running just one app really slows down the phone. For example i took a trip to Houston and was using the navigation app downtown we were looking for a restaurant then all of a sudden my phone froze for like 6 seconds and then started ringing i ignored the call cause we're trying to find our way downtown and then it takes another 20 seconds to pull the app back up. its kinda hard to describe the exact scenario but it just seems that when im just messing around with it its fine but when im really needing to do something it always seem to take forever. sooooo.... my bdays coming up and my fiancee says i wanna get you that phone you want but before she gets it i wanted to ask people that use it. is it going to work better then the hero in these kind of situations? the last thing i was wondering? is the battery really that bad? i work at a hospital and usually pull 12 or 10 hour shifts and i dont want the battery always ending up dead.

Any phone is going to lag when you are using an app that needs both data and GPS (navigation) and you get an incoming call. It has to shut down the data and gps then answer the call before your caller goes to voicemail.
Obviously the EVO smokes the Hero in performance. I was running my Hero @710 w/jit before switching, it ran fast and good but nothing like the EVO.
If you know how to use your phone then you can easily get a day out of the battery. Just don't expect it to do all the cool things it can do all at once and also be conservative with the battery.
My opinion? Anyone who is considering getting an EVO should STOP spending their time considering it and go get one!!
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a fan. It's a remarkable device and I love it.

Understand that the Hero is a phone that was very good for it's time. Processing power has gotten much better but phones will not be instant. The EVO has some times where it goes slow. The iPhone has times where it goes slow.
To be honest, your phone was doing multiple things at once. You got a call during a time the Navigation app was doing its thing. A Nav app has a lot of things to process (your location, speed, calculators for time, etc.) and then here comes a Call - the phone has to process incoming call information and various other things.
If you want the EVO, sell the Hero. It will be an upgrade. For sure.
In terms of battery, turn off crap you don't need and you should be fine. I would imagine at the Hospital you aren't browsing the web your entire shift so it should be fine if the screen is off.

The Battery life on the Evo is good if you are using it for texting, talking, even playing an occasional app or two. While you're at work I assume at most you'd be using it for medium use at which you'll have no problem battery wise (That did improve with the Froyo update)
The running of applications and switching from one section to the other is very much faster than the Hero. If you're coming in with slightly better expectations for the Hero use you'll be pleasently surprised at how good the phone reacts. Also if you are used to flashing your hero there are a lot of Roms that you can get that can actually make the battery life AND the speed of the phone improve all in one Rom.
It's really a no brainer. I'd naturally go with the Evo. There is also the Samsung Epic that you could go with if you're looking to get a physical keyboard. But typing on the Evo is 10 fold better than typing on the Hero. Good luck.

Vs your EVO 4G

I hope I didn't miss something but couldn't find a clear place with these comparisons. Some things could be back tracked through the 3D forum as there are plenty of 3D comps here but it is way too tedious.
Looking for opinions from folks that are coming straight from the EVO 4G. Also, if you could, please post what rom you were running on the EVO as well. Be as specific as possible. (data, call recpt, etc)
Thanks a bunch!

Coming from Evo 4G running Cyanogenmod 7:
Screen waaaay prettier and a little bigger
Better battery
Much lighter and thinner
Much faster and more responsive
Call quality same to me
Sound same to me
Cell reception same (though it shows fewer bars)
Wifi reception better
Overall worth every penny. You won't regret it.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

... And thats just stock rooted. Cant wait to get CM7 on this bad boy.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

It blows the original evo out of the water. The extra ram just makes it faster, the extra storage allows more apps, the dual core is noticeably faster, the screen is a lot smoother (fps wise, you no longer see the very tiny lag when you scroll through apps), the screen is just amazing compared to the evo. oh yea and battery is just amazing. There's no competition when it comes to battery life.
I can't compare the data because I lost my 4g a while ago on my evo so can't comment on the speeds since it's been a long time.
Also the fact that its thinner more stylish just gets chicks all wet :x

I've had the Evo 4G since launch. It's going to be my backup in case anything happens to my Epic 4G Touch. I flashed new roms weekly until I settled with CM7 and MIUI 1.85.
3G Reception (I live in SoCal) - Speed and signal strength very similar
4G Reception - E4GT synched a little faster. Speeds varied, but E4GT averaged better speeds.
Wifi Signal - Seems like I can go a few feet further with the Evo, but not a specific test
Call Quality - E4GT is clearer and louder
Speakerphone - E4GT is clearer and louder
Battery Life - Stock E4GT lasts about 2 hours longer than a super battery tweaked Evo - Low/Moderate usage on E4GT lasted 24 hrs
Size/Weight - At first the E4GT felt fragile because it was so light and thin, but it's built well. The back cover actually snaps flush unlike Evo.
These are the major differences. Screen and speed are on a whole new level. The only thing I miss is the kickstand!

What everyone said plus I can get 4G reception at my desk now. The Evo pulled in zero signal. It also connected to 4G in less than half the time.

Let's see, EVO 4G running >
CM7
CM7Nightlies
Miui (Several Builds/Kernels)
SnS Gingerbread (Great ROM)
Kingdom Revolution
Kingdom
OMFGB
OMGB
Rooted Stock
Myn's Warm 2.2
Synergy
Sprint Lovers
SteelROM
MikG (One of the most important Dev's on EVO IMO)
There really is no comparison. The ET feels so many generations of hardware beyond the OGEVO that it's unbelievable at times.
This phone is the titty bounce, woot woot. FTW, etc and so forth.

For me its an overall upgrade in every aspect.
I don't mind keeping this phone for quite some time.

Literally night and day for me. I no longer need to charge my phone after 6 hours.... and 48GB of memory total

Thanks for the info guys. My biggest concern/hope is that I don't want to go backwards in terms of reception. I don't talk a lot on my phone but I do need to be available. The EVO's for me has been adequate for me as a phone (including battery) but I loved everything else about it.
I may give the user reviews another day or so but I am jonesing hard here.
And +1 to MikG!

Reception is definetely inferior on the E4GT (people that claim it isn't are delusional or mentally retarded). There are numerous threads and posts about how the original EVO has better 3G/4G/WiFi reception. I have tested 2 EVOs vs. 3 E4GTs side-by-side and they all show similar results.
However, it isn't by much. The pros outweigh the cons in this case. Get the E4GT and you won't look back.
I'm just hoping Sammy releases an update soon.

akarol said:
Reception is definetely inferior on the E4GT (people that claim it isn't are delusional or mentally retarded). There are numerous threads and posts about how the original EVO has better 3G/4G/WiFi reception. I have tested 2 EVOs vs. 3 E4GTs side-by-side and they all show similar results.
However, it isn't by much. The pros outweigh the cons in this case. Get the E4GT and you won't look back.
I'm just hoping Sammy releases an update soon.
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Appreciate your testing but are you relying on the signal bars to determine signal strength? If so, that isn't a proper measurement and can't be relied on.
Like others have mentioned Wi-Fi signal shows 'lower bars' when the phone is the same distance as their Evo but the speeds are greatly improved.

I also picked up the EVO4g on launch and LOVED IT. I was pretty sure that I wasn't going to upgrade for quite some time. Mainly used CM7 but also played around with a few other ASOP roms.
I picked up my ET4g on a whim (and after reading the comparison on engadget) and I have to say that the ET4g is much faster, the signal seems slightly better in my office (that is a bomb shelter and only gets signal if I put my phone in a specific place) and the same everywhere else that I normally got signal.
I am really happy with the ET4g. The only drawback between the two for me so far is that the EVO felt solid in my hand, like I wasn't going to snap it in two or break it somehow. The ET4g seems dainty and fragile. This may be a good thing, and I'm sure once my case comes I'll feel a whole lot better about it. I also am a little annoyed with the button layout swap of the options / home key. I keep finding myself pushing the wrong fracking button.
So even being critical the negatives don't outweigh the positives for me. Now that my ET4g is rooted I love it.
Hope that's helpful!
PS - I'm a female with pretty dainty hands myself so the fragile-ness isn't because I have hulk smash hands.
-A

Ran CM7 with my kernel:
1: The GS2 fascinates me every time I pull it out of my pocket
2: It fascinates me even more every time i unlock it
3: EVO 4g only did for a short time then the battery died lol (battery life was good after gingerbread)
4: Speaker is a lot louder and clearer, the ear piece, people I call can say they hear me much better now.
5: The phone is much faster stock than evo 4g w/ CM7/SavagedZen (which was awfully fast)
6: Camera takes very nice shots compared to the evo 4g
7: WiFI was stronger on the OG evo, no noticable difference with 3g/4g
8: Every time I take the epic out of my pocket im amazed

I too owned an EVO4g since launch and was sceptical about buying this phone.
What I love:
This phone handles .mkv video out of the box! On my evo, I'd try to play a 1.5gig video and it would pixelate and stutter (couldn't watch). The E4gT handles this PERFECTLY!!! NO LAG NO PIXELATION.
This was huge to me as I like to download videos and then hdmi from my laptop to my TV... now, I can just dl directly onto the E4Gt no problem!
Screen- It's vivid... The blacks are rich and the colors are amazing!
Camera- WTF, 1080p!!! Nice!! It's amazing. The color/quality is hands down the best I've seen.
It's much more responsive and faster.
Just a heads up... I sold my evo on craigslist for $200... and with my upgrade I got this phone for free... actually... I got sprint to give me a $50 credit to match wirefly/walmart... so I made $50 (well... only 12 if you could the 38 in taxe).
Go for it.

akarol said:
Reception is definetely inferior on the E4GT (people that claim it isn't are delusional or mentally retarded). There are numerous threads and posts about how the original EVO has better 3G/4G/WiFi reception. I have tested 2 EVOs vs. 3 E4GTs side-by-side and they all show similar results.
However, it isn't by much. The pros outweigh the cons in this case. Get the E4GT and you won't look back.
I'm just hoping Sammy releases an update soon.
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I did speedtest on both side by side and the E4GT with one bar is way faster than the EVO with 4bars its not even close Ill do it again when my wife gets home from work with her EVO if you want me to post screen shots

And you're assuming I am using signal bars for my testing why?! I never mentioned that. I am measuring using dB levels.

ker0zene said:
Appreciate your testing but are you relying on the signal bars to determine signal strength? If so, that isn't a proper measurement and can't be relied on.
Like others have mentioned Wi-Fi signal shows 'lower bars' when the phone is the same distance as their Evo but the speeds are greatly improved.
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I came from an Evo4G as well and did a signal comparison test using dbs. I cannot comment on 4G but the 3G reception of my Evo is definitely superior but not by a huge amount. Wifi is clearly superior on the Evo. Also after some testing it appears the E4GT is not capable of roaming on the PCS band (bandclass 1) only roams on cellular (bandclass 0) This may not affect many but if your in an area like florida or texas iirc which is straight PCS, no roaming for you!

^^ That! ^^

For me, it's EVO 4G for the win.
I so wanted to like this phone (Epic Touch). The screen is AMAZING. The design is AMAZING (people have commented like "what's THAT?")....in a good signal area, phone noticeably does download pages faster....but not by much. a second or two, which in real world experience means nothing...but it is noticeable.
The battery life.....AMAZING...first smart phone I ever owned that made it through the entire day AND night. Unfreaking believable.
But Data problems....I cannot stand.
The Samsung "glitches" like having to press buttons more than once OCCASIONALY or programs closing out of no where....I could almost live with...
But I NEED data, I use it more that the phone, lol

Post ICS battery problems any better yet?

I moved to a Moto Photon 4G after getting fed up with the E4GT not lasting through the afternoon on a full charge ever since ICS first came out. Photons cannot be flashed without losing 4G, so I am stuck on GB and sick of it. Fow what it's worth, the Moto gets much better signal in places my three Samsungs (NS4g, E4GT, SGSIII) never could, and battery lasts about two days. I think that the Samsung models just sh!t themselves when they lose or get a weak signal, and Moto just makes a better radio. If I could flash this thing I probably wouldnt upgrade for years.
Anyway, just coming back here to check in and see if it's worth moving back to the E4GT.
Has anyone who HAD major battery problems seen any improvement in the last few months with the latest ROMs and kernels? Searching only reveals posts like "battery life is great" with little to back it up. Spent all last summer getting sucked into every rom, none made a difference with battery.

Well that is interesting.
My buddie got his first smartphone about a year ago, whenever the photon first came out. He had me help him pick out a phone, i saw good reviews about the photon so we went with it. All i can say is, out off all the phones ive ever used over the past 5-6 years, including iphone, evo4g, vibrant 4g, facinate, g2x, g2, sensation, mytouch3g, and this one, the photon was the absolute worst experience with a smartphone. ever.
I think that all phones are different and some people just have bad luck with phones. I personaly have never had a phone i had to replace due to manufacturing defects. Except the evo.(knock on wood) It was a good phone, but at the same time it was a bit of a joke too. Id go with the s2. I just got one. Its great

Well, thanks for the reply, but that doesn't really answer my question. I did go with the s2, and it WAS great, until ICS. It doesn't sound as though you have battery issues. I can charge the thing all night, and for another 45 minutes commuting the car, and it will still be dead by 2pm. Sprint even gave me a new battery. I think I gave up on it around FK23 or so.
The other thing I have noticed is that 3G is positively awful in my area (cincinnati) to the point of being useless. I wonder if that has anything to do with it, maybe when it loses 4G it tries to keep going using 3G, and can't, but sucks the battery dry trying. Maybe there's a way to tell it to shut things down unless it has 4G or wifi.

Well then i guess it depends on the rom. It seems all the new 4.2.2 roms have better battery life. But a low signal and the fact that you have 4g on all day is definitely the cause. I have the same problem with sprints coverage. But yes the new roms have definitely helped.
There are some apps in the market that do similar things. Try tasker or juice defender

My battery performance has been improved so much that my car battery was dead one night and I was able to use my Epic to get my car started.
Now thats what I call power, using my Epic Touch to its MAX.
Oh, and I still had plenty of battery leftover to watch some YouTube.
Pp.:beer::beer::beer::thumbup::beer:
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

Regardless of rom turn off 4g, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS when not in use. Try a jellybean leak next. I ran the GA10 jellybean leak for about a month before I got bored and moved on. Battery life averaged 24 hours with a screen on time of 2-3 hours. Calls and light bluetooth streaming were also daily activities.

tried all those old tricks 1000x over from july to october when i gave up. turning off 4G literally means no data in downtown cincinnati, it gets about 15kbps on 3G. Wifi not an option.
when we get LTE, i will have more options, but sprint hasnt made a peep about ohio and we were among the first to get wimax, so I bet thats a least a year off.
i will try a newer rom for giggles. i have read through a few, nothing jumping out. all i really care about is de-bloating, all suggestions welcome.

Wimax eats battery like a fat kid in a bakery. If you arent using the device turn off all mobile data of you can't get 3g between wimax running and 3g searching your battery will die in just a few hours. Just put a 4g and mobile data widget on your homescreen or use widgetsoid and put em in the noti panel and turn em off when you turn your screen off. Turn your sync times to 1-4 hours instead of push and watch your battery last all day.
I like to break stuff!

PanchoPlanet said:
My battery performance has been improved so much that my car battery was dead one night and I was able to use my Epic to get my car started.
Now thats what I call power, using my Epic Touch to its MAX.
Oh, and I still had plenty of battery leftover to watch some YouTube.
Pp.:beer::beer::beer::thumbup::beer:
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.
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How did you jumpstart the car with the battery? did u carefully hold the red and black connectors to the battery? LOL

not true with the photon. i can leave everything on and get 10-12 hours out of it. maybe that's GB vs ICS/JB more than samsung vs moto, but the point is the same. never mind, sounds like there won't be anything for the s2 that doesn't require massive amounts of hoop jumping.

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How did you jumpstart the car with the battery? did u carefully hold the red and black connectors to the battery? LOL
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No dummy , I called triple A, :thumbup: the guy showed up and gave my car a boost.
Lolololo!!! (I was looking online for a mini USB/jumper cable adapter, but had no luck. )
By the way I have been on stock/rooted jellybean since it appeared and with fl 16 kernel I get comparable battery life to GB, and great sleep when not in use. Currently on GB08.
Pp. :beer::thumbup:
Transmitted from another galaxy with a Jellybean infused P-5113 full of Unicorn porn.

btrcp2000 said:
not true with the photon. i can leave everything on and get 10-12 hours out of it. maybe that's GB vs ICS/JB more than samsung vs moto, but the point is the same. never mind, sounds like there won't be anything for the s2 that doesn't require massive amounts of hoop jumping.
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The photon only lasts that long because it suspends the mobile networks when the screen is off and only wakes them up every 30 mins to sync so basically its doing exactly what I told you to do. My wife has that POS phone
I like to break stuff!
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Hell you could use tasker or juice defender to automate the network suspension when the phones off if you're too lazy to do it manually.
I like to break stuff!

Razr M my favorite Android phone so far..

I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
-Div

Diversion said:
I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
-Div
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Me too... I know Google is going to revamp Motorola to a large degree but i hope they still make small sleek versions of all of their lines like they did with the new RAZR line
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After configurating most of my apps i'm getting severe lag when typing.. Its not registering my typing until 1 second or so afterwards.. and sometimes going in and out of various apps that are already loaded in memory is pretty sluggish and laggy. Freshly RSD'd the latest 4.1.2 build.. So i'm not sure whats going on.

The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.

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The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.
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I suppose I could say that so far I like the RAZR M over other Android phones that I have had. To list I've had:
HTC Thunderbolt, Motorola Defy XT, DROID 2 Global, DROID X, and DROID RAZR M
I miss various features from all of them, but I think overall I prefer the one I have now being the RAZR M. I'm not sure what my next phone will be. My current contract isn't up until December 2014, unless I pay full price for my next phone.

Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone

Jason 907 said:
Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone
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Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(

I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.

Diversion said:
I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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I've also noticed that the Seeder program doesn't seem to help much. I've had lag with the keyboard too, especially waiting for it to pop up when I tap on a text field. It takes a second or even two. And the first few letters are laggy, but I'm using swiftkey. This phone does get hot when tethering, but I think I was able to charge my phone at same time.

motoroid7 said:
Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(
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I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best

Jason 907 said:
I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best
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Really hope you are able to fix it; If you didn't know, and I apologize is if you already knew this information
Power + Vol Up + Vol Down to get into Fastboot, then just use fastboot/adb binaries or rsdlite :}

Diversion said:
I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap. I'm getting no lag at all on CM 10.1, and it seems to be nicer on the battery.
The tethering situation sounds odd... I would say check your charger but it appears you've done that. I can tether and charge happily, so it seems like there's something up with the device. Doesn't make sense at all because I'm in an awful coverage area and I tether fine on 1-2 bars 3g and even 1x
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sloosecannon said:
Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap.
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Is this not true with most oem launchers? I can't recall a phone I've not switched to either ADW (a few years ago) or Apex, nowdays.
I've owned a Incredible 2, Droid X2, Razr, Galaxy S3, and currently a Razr M. What drove me away from the phones before the Razr M was a mix of A) the stock software being terrible, and B) homebrew support missing or terribly buggy. Lets be honest - 3rd party roms don't live up to stock roms in terms of stability. What you may gain in customizability in roms like Cyanogen or AOKP, you lose in stability or even battery life. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but that's my opinion.
Anyway, as for the Razr M - it's one of the few phones that I think has an acceptable build quality. METAL for the casing, the only better-built hardware than that is an iPhone 4 or 5. The 'kevlar' back is a gimmick and the gorilla glass or whatever screen is standard now but I can't complain.
Hopefully if Google changes the look of Moto's phones, they'll stick with a similar build.
That being said, I do have a few issues with my M - Sometimes it wants to stay on 3G in an area I have decent (although weak) 4G service and I need to toggle airplane mode to get it on 4G. And the plastic bit around the headphone port fell out.

All I'm gonna say is sometimes I effing hate this phone and other times I'm freaking pumped about its strength. Its like that hoop-d Honda you won't admit is yours but when you are driving you feel like its a Ferrari.
I was so bummed to go from the g-nex to this when I saw the dev on it, but now I have been feeling motivated to learn to dev myself for it! I love this device through and through... It has taken the biggest beating thus far, and I have beat up some phones...
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Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!

stealthj said:
Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!
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Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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Leraeniesh said:
Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit

stealthj said:
I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit
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I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.

dingurt said:
I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.
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Those are just the signal bars. The actual signal is the same.
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Hmm... I'll check that again then.

[Q] T-Mobile HTC M8 Data Connectivity Issues.

I noticed that I have to reset the phone allot. If I am in an area with no reception for a while then go back to an area with reception it wont automatically reconnect and the LTE stays off sometimes. I have to reboot the phone.
The same problem is with signal strength too, it will not reconnect automatically sometimes. My 4G LTE does this allot. It does become annoying. I am afraid to get another phone in fear it will be worse then this one. I already had to exchange my phone and am running out of exchange days. (14 day period)
My first M8 I got on June 30 was slow, incredibly laggy and very buggy to the point it was nearly unusable. That first M8 had a mind of it's own. Maybe it was the first gen, I do not know. This replacement phone has been good to me minus the fact it sometimes drops calls and gets SUPER warm RANDOMLY even when ALL the apps are closed. The new phone is MUCH faster with the same settings and runs much smoother.
These connection issues are bugging the hell out of me, my iPhone never had this problem and would always reconnect fast. I do not like the S5 and I like the HTC but I do wonder about it's quality control and the quality of the internal components inside.
I hope its not hardware. I hope an update fixes the issue I'm constantly restarting.

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I noticed that I have to reset the phone allot. If I am in an area with no reception for a while then go back to an area with reception it wont automatically reconnect and the LTE stays off sometimes. I have to reboot the phone.
The same problem is with signal strength too, it will not reconnect automatically sometimes. My 4G LTE does this allot. It does become annoying. I am afraid to get another phone in fear it will be worse then this one. I already had to exchange my phone and am running out of exchange days. (14 day period)
My first M8 I got on June 30 was slow, incredibly laggy and very buggy to the point it was nearly unusable. That first M8 had a mind of it's own. Maybe it was the first gen, I do not know. This replacement phone has been good to me minus the fact it sometimes drops calls and gets SUPER warm RANDOMLY even when ALL the apps are closed. The new phone is MUCH faster with the same settings and runs much smoother.
These connection issues are bugging the hell out of me, my iPhone never had this problem and would always reconnect fast. I do not like the S5 and I like the HTC but I do wonder about it's quality control and the quality of the internal components inside.
I hope its not hardware. I hope an update fixes the issue I'm constantly restarting.
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good day - i have not had any of these issues with the m8 at all. has been snappy since day one. i have had little to no connectivity issues either. i have gone from way out in the country back into coverage, 2g snaps on immediately, then 3g, then closer to the city, 4g. my wife and i have a family plan and both devices switch within seconds of each other. different phone, she has the g2 but zero connectivity issues there too. we are in northern IL / Chicago market so it might be different. might be a dud phone? i do not think it has to do with hardware quality though. i went from an htc incredible that i had to replace a speaker in after 10 months but had no other issues with, to an incredible 2 that i had 0 issues with, to a S3 that was awesome, to a note 3 that was great, to the m8 which has been wonderful. my wife went from a blackberry that was crazy solid, to a S4 that was total CRAP, to the G2 which is amazing. if you can i would try and get a new one?
g/l

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good day - i have not had any of these issues with the m8 at all. has been snappy since day one. i have had little to no connectivity issues either. i have gone from way out in the country back into coverage, 2g snaps on immediately, then 3g, then closer to the city, 4g. my wife and i have a family plan and both devices switch within seconds of each other. different phone, she has the g2 but zero connectivity issues there too. we are in northern IL / Chicago market so it might be different. might be a dud phone? i do not think it has to do with hardware quality though. i went from an htc incredible that i had to replace a speaker in after 10 months but had no other issues with, to an incredible 2 that i had 0 issues with, to a S3 that was awesome, to a note 3 that was great, to the m8 which has been wonderful. my wife went from a blackberry that was crazy solid, to a S4 that was total CRAP, to the G2 which is amazing. if you can i would try and get a new one?
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Hey, thank you for the response.
I went to T-Mobile today and they Factory Reset my phone.
I left to mobile and they told me to come back within 24 hours there is a failure
I ended up having a buggy phone with artifacts and flashes similar to an overclocked GPU. T-Mobile told me it might fix the phone.
Tomorrow, I am going back for my 2nd replacement. I like this phone, it works much better then my first phone but the connection problems are extreme and it starting to feel like faulty hardware. My first phone was full of lag, it was factory reset and lagged on the machine as well. The machine(a laptop) even had to be restarted.

Some guy had same issue and replacing sim card fix it. You should give it a try
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I read (in the note 3 forums i think) that data dropouts were an inherent problem in android 4.4.2, and the code was fixed in version 4.4.3. Don't know if it applies to this phone as well, but if its an android system problem it could be.

This problem is really annoying happens too often.
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Yeah it's happening more often that I would like but it's not a daily thing