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Do you all love your Incredible 2's?

Do you wish you had 4G? Do you like the size? Anyone still debating between the Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt?

My dad has the thunderbolt and I have the incredible 2. I dont think 4g is that big of a deal, though I am usually in range of wifi. The thunderbolt is borderline too big, the incredible 2 is the perfect size and naturally we both would like better battery life. I think I'll buy an extended battery for my Incredible 2 even though I rooted and am running CM7.

Yeah I currently have the Thunderbolt but am looking to swap to an Incredible when I can, it doesn't fit in my hands the greatest so I think the Incredible is the ticket.

Best android phone I have touched. I wouldn't even think about getting 4g instead of this beast.

Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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jaynole said:
Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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Just trying to make me jealous eh? If that's the case well played sir! Hopefully I can find someone on Swappa who wants to trade.

My honest opinion:
I wish I had 4G, but I'll take slower data speeds over terrible battery life. Disabling 4G on a Tbolt really just makes it a bloated Inc2, so I am happy with my Inc2.
If what you are really wanting to ask is if I regret the purchase, then my answer is no.

I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.

Mean Bro Greene said:
I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.
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Ha ha, thanks a heap for that mouth watering tease. I'll be picking one up as soon as I can find someone who will be willing to part with theirs for my Thunderbolt ha ha.

oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.

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oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.
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With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.

in italy we don't have 4g (maybe next year) and for me the dinc2 is the best phone i can buy nowaday....
fast, stable, great display, right size, right feeling in my hand.....
now , after s-off and great roms coming out it will be the best choise for me ... ;-D

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I love the incredible 2. The extra RAM is ignored by the reviewers for some reason but it really helps. The battery puts it over the thunderbolt in my opinion.
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Love mine. 4G isn't a big deal for me, and I was never really impressed with any of the 4G phones that were out at the time I bought my Inc2.

I've had the thunderbolt since it was released in march and ultimately the battery life did it in. Great phone no doubt and I loved traveling to spots with 4g coverage and using it to tether (when it was free) but since my area of northern Los Angeles is 4g free I just don't want to deal with the battery issues when I can't utilize the battery draining network. I'm literally ten miles from the edge of 4g so I doubt they will expand up just a little bit anytime soon so that was it for the bolt.
I had the original incredible and outside of the original Droid it was my favorite Android phone. So when I decided to dump the thunderbolt I gave the Droid 3 a shot first. Wasn't a fan. Way too brick like in the pocket and I am not a fan of how the phone feels. So I returned it and went Inc2 and I couldn't be happier. Essentially the same as the thunderbolt from a performance standpoint (in 3g mode) in a smaller lighter and battery sipping 3g package. So no complaints at all and I will stick with this until I actually get 4g in my area.

I had a Charge, since I switched from T-Mobile solely for LTE. However, after about a month of it pissing battery, consistently failing to get me through a work day let alone anything afterwards, and after a couple of replacement units (hoping to find the good battery life I had heard so many people claim), and after trying to patch up all the problems in the phone, I finally had enough and traded down to the Inc2. Turns out it's an amazing phone. I like it so much I left it stock, and even took the root-blocking Gingerbread OTA. The GPS is unbelievably strong, the battery can go for days, Sense is really feature-rich and polished. On top of all of that, the hardware feels sturdy, exudes class, and disappears into your pocket. This phone is amazing.
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With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.
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how does it get you through a whole day? just browsing the web for about an hour & a half(with brightness turned all the way down) kills about 30% of the battery.. that and if i watch a movie on it it kills about 40%.
so i take it you aren't constantly using the phone though?

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Do you wish you had 4G? Do you like the size? Anyone still debating between the Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt?
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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.

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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.
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+1 good sir!

My Experiences with the Epic 4G Touch

It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault.
L.O.S - The only LOS issues I have had or continue to have is the same LOS issue My Evo 4g had, My wife's Evo Shift has. It is at the same location between my home and work. So I attribute this to a network issue not the phones.
Wifi signal - I will admit that the BARS on my ET do show lower than the Bars on my Evo 4g or my wife's Evo Shift, but it gets signal in places in my house that neither of those devices ever get signal and it does it while showing zero bars. It also gets faster speeds on the same network.
Battery life - I don't use my phone any differently than I did with my Evo 4g. With my Evo, by noon I was reaching for a charger or a spare battery with the ET I haven't been below 48% when leaving work. I have played around on it and got it down to the low 20's though but that is later in the evening. I am averaging 12 hours on battery with heavy use before plugging it in at night. It is my work phone so battery life was the biggest selling point for me and it paid off. I average 50+ voice calls a day that range in time from 3 minutes to close to an hour. I receive and respond to 15+ emails a day and send about 20 texts a day. I read the news for about 20 minutes on it in the morning and check FB about 3 times a day for 10 minutes each time. I don't watch movies on it but do occasionally watch a video someone posts on FB. I listen to Audible about 3 hours a day, which isn't streaming it's just playing the files on the phone. I rarely stream and when I do the phone is plugged in to the car and I am on a road trip.
4G - I have left the 4g radio on all day and only saw about 10% more battery consumption over leaving it off. I have 4g at work and most the way home, but not at my house. My Evo 4g would have been dead in about 1 hr if I left it on without being plugged in. I have noticed the 4g radio does sleep, not sure if it does on the Evo 4g. From my usage you can see 4g isn't that important to me.
Waking up - As far as the slight delay when waking the phone. It doesn't bother me because it doesn't interfere with the function of the phone. With the Evo 4g I had at least 3 sense crashes a day where I waited longer for sense to reload. So I figure if I add up all the 1 second pauses to wake this phone up it's still less than the total time waiting for crashed sense to reload 3 times a day.
This thing is blazing fast and has a beautiful screen. I am very happy with this upgrade.
I did however have one issue that I was able to trace back to an app or at least once that app was removed the issue went away. On my Evo 4g which never had great battery life, I had used the Xscope browser and loved it's usefulness and functionality, however at about day 3 of app installs, I only install 3 apps a day in case there is an issue I know which to look at 1st, I began to see a sever battery drain. I went from getting 12+ hours a day to getting less than 8 hrs a day. So I removed the 3 apps and behold the battery drain was gone. Xscope was my favorite of the 3 apps so it went back on 1st and bam battery drain was back. So I removed it and placed the other 2 apps, Flixster and Audible, and didn't see the drain return. Not wanting to place blame or start a flame war with fans of Xscope so I am just reporting that some of your issues may be caused by Apps you have installed. I know I have friends that dump 50+ apps on a phone the day they get it and don't configure anything. Then ***** that they are having issues like battery drain or slow internet when in fact it's a misbehaving app not the phone.
These are just my experiences and are not to be taken as Gospel.

Great post. I feel pretty much the same as you about this phone. Sure it has some annoying bugs, but overall it just rocks. You can't even make this bad boy stutter.

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It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault. .......
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Thanks for taking the time to write this. I've been fence sitting since June (when I was upgrade eligible) to make an informed decision on an upgrade. With Sprint snatching the Sprint Premiere Gold at the end of the year, I am really on the prowl to upgrade to a device that has a solid root (without issues), a dependable phone for work (it's vital that it just work), and it be that exponential leap over my aging Evo 4G. I was pretty sure this phone would be my landing pad but was scared off by all the LOS complaints and people giving different information on whether it was kernel (root) or factory radio problems. Will continue to watch the developments here (I'm in this thread everyday) and see what is on the horizon for Sprint. My Evo actually fills the bill except for the horrid battery life that chains me to a charger or USB cable so I have a few months to decide. Throw in the impending Sprint LTE revelations and LTE enabled devices allegedly coming this summer and now another quandary pops up. My next will be my next for two years so I gotta think it through. Again thank you for your constructive input.

Hey Nannuq...well said! Welcome to the E.T. sub forum!

Very informative post. I really appreciate your insight.
Dave

I have had this phone since launch and I'm completely one hundred percent satisfied. I've had the hero evo 4g, evo shift, evo 3d, and now this phone, and I have never been as satisfied with a android device as I have with this one. Performance,Battery life, call sound quality, reception, ect has honestly been amazing. I used to change devices every six months but I don't see the need with this phone and I don't think I will ever buy another HTC device after using this phone.
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100% agree! This phone amazes me everyday. I was always a HTC fan, owing the original EVO, then the 3D, and even talked my daughter into getting the Shift over the Epic 4G. I honestly can say that I don't miss HTC at all, nor do I miss Sense 1 bit either. Samsung and Sprint did a great job on this phone. My signal blows the 3D away. In areas where I would be roaming with the 3D, the EpTouch handles without a hiccup. Wifi might show less bars, but then again, it still pulls faster speeds than my 3D did. I will definitely be very satisfied with this phone till the SIII comes out next year!

I love the phone but the wifi issue is incorrect. I have my router downstairs and frequently drop the connection whereas every other device (laptop, phone, ps3) has as great signal even outside. I think it may be the driver i'm looking into it
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[ CDMA / Verizon ] The nexus versus... Questions inside.

Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?

Just came from Spurnt (uhh, Sprint) and a MoPho phone myself.
(I will never in my life own another Motorola phone no matter what)
You will have zero problems with rooting or unlocking the bootloader (s-off).
It took me all of 10 minutes after I got the phone home and those 2 along with wireless tether were up and running and have had zero issues with the phone.
It flat out rocks.
BTW about 40Mb down and 18Mb up speeds on LTE in my area

I have had so many HTC phones and I was sick of sense so I got the nexus both solid phones mater of preference
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Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?
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If you care about unlocked bootloader the nexus is the only way to go. Plus the nexus will always have more development support than a one off device like the rezound.
Also I think the omap processor at 1.2 is faster than the scorpion at 1.5
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If you read up on the galaxy nexus omap chip, you'll find or that the natural clock speed is 1.5GHz. It's actually underclocked on our phones. Most custom rooms allow you over clock if you want.
Honestly, with pure Android, speed is not an issue, especially with all the great devs. Remember, a great development community can really make our break a phone. That's why the og evo was so good, because of the great developers.
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I switched from Sprint to Verizon about three weeks ago, and I haven't looked back! I've been wanting a Nexus phone for a while now, Sprint sucks in my hometown (Longview,TX), and I bet on Verizon bringing 4G here soon - and I was right! We just got 4G (unofficially) a week ago, and were among the cities they officially expanded to on the 16th!
My point is, switch to Verizon and get a Galaxy Nexus! They're awesome. I immediately put CyanogenMod 9 on mine, and I've loved nearly every minute I've used my phone. I wouldn't call it "always buttery smooth," but the hiccups are hardly noticeable.
Oh, and I highly recommend Apex Launcher! It's currently rated 4.8/5 in the Play Store from over 2200 ratings, and over 1900 are 5-star ratings! It's highly customizable.
The worst part of my switch was going from a $90/mo unlimited plan with Sprint (after taxes) to a $110/mo 4GB plan with Verizon, but it's worth it.

Dude, by something already! I figured by now you would have been way on your way with the GN and Verizon...lol
Anyway. I got the GN, my wife has the Rezound. Both are good phones, the GN is definitely the better phone for me. The Rezound was the better phone for the wife.
The GN feels faster then the Rezound even though the Rezound has a 1.5ghz dula core vs a 1.2ghz in the GN. The GN just feels like a flagship device where the Rezound is just another HTC phone and it is almost like if you owned 1 HTC phone it is like you owned them all.
The screen is way better on the GN as well. Super Amoled over SLCD any day. The one thing the Rezound does have is a better radio. The Rezound will pick up 4G in low signal area's and keep a good signal with it where the GN will drop me to 3G.
There is pretty good development for the Rezound as well and they just got a release candidate leak of ICS yesterday...There is still nothing like running pure ICS that we get on the GN though.
So either way you will have a good phone but I would choose the GN 7 days of the week. Now can you please go buy something?

true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.

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true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.
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Like I told the guy in the other thread, buy the GN first. If you do not have any reception problems then you will already have the better phone. If you encounter any problems then exchange for the Rezound.

okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.

Believe me when I say that the Nexus will run faster than the Rezound, even on just stock. Sense is a system hog if I ever saw one. Plus, like others mentioned, it's easy to OC the Nexus, however it runs so smoothly that I've never had to. Keep in mind that ICS is optimized to take advantage of multiple processors, unlike GB which doesn't.
Additionally, if you can afford it, I suggest Verizon over Sprint, although as a disclaimer I've never had Sprint so my opinion comes from what my friends have told me about them and my experiences with Big Red.
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okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
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When I talk about signal, I am really talking about the devices that seem to have bad hardware. My first GN would literally drop 4G in a good area every couple of minutes. It would lose signal and then it would come back.
My replacement is 100% fine and I have had it for 2 weeks now. Trust me, you will know if your device is bad. Also, this was only noticed on 4G. 3G had no issues.
Having said that, my wifes Rezound pulls in better dbm's in our house which is in a area with bad signal for any carrier. On Sprint I needed an Airave or I couldn't use my phone in my house...
Now I can use my GN to make calls and while the signal is pretty weak it still holds and calls sound fine. I am usually around -100 through -120 in my house. 4G sometimes will come on but it has a hard time sticking. My wife's signal in my house is usually around -93 and holds 4G signal throughout my house.
I am not really concerned as I have wifi in my house and have no problems with my phone or texts on my GN at home and in better area's 4G never drops.
I still would never give up my GN for a Rezound. If my 2nd GN had the same issues as my first I do not know what I would have done. I might have looked at the Razr Maxx but the GN and Verizon were the main reasons I made the switch from Sprint.
After owning HTC phone exclusively since the ppc-6600 all the way through the EVO 4G and 3D, these devices just feel stale to me. If I didn't own these HTC devices before, maybe the Rezound would be more exciting but it is not.
Everyday I fall more in love with my GN. The latest thing is being able to run the GN in tablet mode. This just put the device over the top for me and made it even more user friendly. Having the bottom bar handle the on screen navigations as well as all the notifications, it has become truly amazing.

Thanks man... Imay get the GN and my fiance may get the rezound..

So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?

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So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?
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You'd have to compare it to another Verizon LTE phone next to it and see which is better. The GN will probably have a lower signal. Just how it is.

Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?

i would easily say the nexus, i made the same switch your doin, and i LOVE IT!!!! My bill is cheaper than it was with sprint, the service is waaaaaay better, the nexus will get early updates, and the dev support for it is massive! You won't regret it

Seriously why hasn't anyone mentioned that although the rezound has 1.5 gigs its a couple of a8 cores and not a9.
a9 cores @ 1.2 gig clock speed easily out performs an a8 with 1.5 gig.

Just add a poll on the thread.
I vote for the Nexus..

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Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?
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It shows an accurate signal. So do other phones if you go into the proper settings menu. It is also likely to have a lower signal if compared to RAZR or Rezound. Just how it is.

SCH-I515 Radio

I've done some research on this issue, and I'm afraid the answer is going to be: "it is what it is," but I recently acquired this phone and have noticed a decrease in cell coverage over my (*wildly awful*) LG Revolution.
For starters, 4G seems flaky at best. It has 4G coverage, but it is very spotty, unpredictable, and sometimes, even when it says 4G, I'm getting speeds equivalent to dial up (much worse than 3G). I can safely state it has significantly lower 4G coverage than my Revolution did. As for voice reception, while it has not cut out on me when I'm "above ground," it is non-existent in my basement. While this would seem to equate to a "well duh" statement, my previous Revolution was able to get a bar.
My phone is up to date with the latest updates, and is running on 4.2.2 with a baseband version FK01/FK02.
I'll say that it is a beautiful phone that was crafted fantastically as a solid Android device that would put my old phone to shame, but it seems like maybe this phone was crafted as a 4.75" tablet first, then the radios were slapped on as an after-thought? Has this been anyone else's experience? Are there fixes for these issues, or is this an inherent hardware issue?
This is my first Samsung phone on top of several Samsung tablets I've owned. While they are winning me over as an Android manufacturer, they are sliding off a cliff as a phone manufacturer so far (LG took that dive from 20,000 ft.)...
On an aside, battery life is a bit of a joke as well. I have orders in for batteries, extended batteries, etc. to fix that problem, though.

these are all issues that have been covered many times over. yes, the lte version has crappy signal pickup. mine is horrible for being in a decent size city with full 4g coverage, and 3g is even worse, a complete joke if you will. you can try flashing different radio combos to see what works for you. and battery, you hit it on the head, all you can do is get a bigger battery and try different kernel and setting combos to try and max out battery life. good luck with your phone, it's a great phone though for being over a year old now.

Razr M my favorite Android phone so far..

I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
-Div

Diversion said:
I current have the DroidOG, Droid X, HTC Rezound, Note 2, SG3, SG4, and iPhone5 and the Razr M is my favorite so far but giving the SG4 some time to see what its all about.. It's much too familiar, SG3/4/Note2 all pretty much have the same feel. Before the phones listed i've had many other Droids, etc.
I love everything about the M, except for it's signal.. I never drop to 3g where I live on any of my 4g devices but this one manages to drop to 3g. I guess it has to do with antenna size/length but everything else this phone is perfect (for me).
I don't expect everybody to favor smaller phones but after owning larger Android phones I feel the Android experience in a iPhone sized package is "right" for me.
I hope Moto makes similarly sized, powerful phones in the future!
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Me too... I know Google is going to revamp Motorola to a large degree but i hope they still make small sleek versions of all of their lines like they did with the new RAZR line
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After configurating most of my apps i'm getting severe lag when typing.. Its not registering my typing until 1 second or so afterwards.. and sometimes going in and out of various apps that are already loaded in memory is pretty sluggish and laggy. Freshly RSD'd the latest 4.1.2 build.. So i'm not sure whats going on.

The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.

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The M was my first smart phone, and thus, my first Android phone. I can't say it's my favorite because I have nothing to compare it to. However, I did choose it because of its size, build quality, and battery life. At the time, there wasn't much development and if I would have chosen purely off of development, I would have went wtih Samsung. However, the Sammie phones feel "cheap" to me. After playing with the S4, though, the graphics quality is 100x better than the M, but I don't really care.
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I suppose I could say that so far I like the RAZR M over other Android phones that I have had. To list I've had:
HTC Thunderbolt, Motorola Defy XT, DROID 2 Global, DROID X, and DROID RAZR M
I miss various features from all of them, but I think overall I prefer the one I have now being the RAZR M. I'm not sure what my next phone will be. My current contract isn't up until December 2014, unless I pay full price for my next phone.

Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone

Jason 907 said:
Was my favorite phone until now because it won't boot
But I will say after using the droid incredible, it was quite a nice phone
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Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(

I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.

Diversion said:
I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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I've also noticed that the Seeder program doesn't seem to help much. I've had lag with the keyboard too, especially waiting for it to pop up when I tap on a text field. It takes a second or even two. And the first few letters are laggy, but I'm using swiftkey. This phone does get hot when tethering, but I think I was able to charge my phone at same time.

motoroid7 said:
Why can't you get your RAZR M to boot? Can you get it into fastboot mode and rsdlite it back to stock? :'(
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I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best

Jason 907 said:
I am going to try this tonight.. hope for the best
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Really hope you are able to fix it; If you didn't know, and I apologize is if you already knew this information
Power + Vol Up + Vol Down to get into Fastboot, then just use fastboot/adb binaries or rsdlite :}

Diversion said:
I have to deduct more points from these three glaring problems (so far):
1) Long pauses (lag) when switching apps (even after they are loaded into memory). Things like Seeder don't seem to help at all (at low, medium or agressive profiles). Sometimes I'll be trying to type on the keyboard and it pauses for so long it shoots out a long sentence i just typed out.. Very annoying. Being this is the same hardware internally on the SG3 except 1gb less ram.. The SG3 had zero lag ever. Surprised Moto hasn't figured out what the hang up is here by now.
2) Charging the phone while Hotspot Tethering is active.. Mine will not charge, it says it's charging but it's unable to keep up a charge.. the battery still drains very fast while plugged in. This is using the built-in Hotspot, not third party app. This is important to me, my work sends me on business trips often and they pay for my phone bill but I can't rely on this phone to serve me internet while I do work. My SG3/Note2 will charge to 100% while tethering without a hitch. I've tried various wall-bricks.. Ranging from 1amp to 2amp to 5watts to 10watts.. none make any difference. It feels like the phone just heats up way too much during tethering and I bet the internal charging circuit just turns off as a protection.
3) LTE signal is bad compared to every other LTE phone i've had on Verizon.. My city is well blanketed in thick 4g LTE.. About 2 bars to Max bars almost everywhere you go on any other LTE device i've used. This one is 1 bar most of the time sometimes 3 max (rare).. And it seems the battery drains pretty quickly hunting for signals based on poor antenna reception.. But when using 3G, battery life seems much better.. Luckily 3g is usually more than enough speed for me.
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Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap. I'm getting no lag at all on CM 10.1, and it seems to be nicer on the battery.
The tethering situation sounds odd... I would say check your charger but it appears you've done that. I can tether and charge happily, so it seems like there's something up with the device. Doesn't make sense at all because I'm in an awful coverage area and I tether fine on 1-2 bars 3g and even 1x
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sloosecannon said:
Yeah, moto did a crappy job on the launcher. It looks great and has good functionality, but it's laggy as crap.
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Is this not true with most oem launchers? I can't recall a phone I've not switched to either ADW (a few years ago) or Apex, nowdays.
I've owned a Incredible 2, Droid X2, Razr, Galaxy S3, and currently a Razr M. What drove me away from the phones before the Razr M was a mix of A) the stock software being terrible, and B) homebrew support missing or terribly buggy. Lets be honest - 3rd party roms don't live up to stock roms in terms of stability. What you may gain in customizability in roms like Cyanogen or AOKP, you lose in stability or even battery life. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but that's my opinion.
Anyway, as for the Razr M - it's one of the few phones that I think has an acceptable build quality. METAL for the casing, the only better-built hardware than that is an iPhone 4 or 5. The 'kevlar' back is a gimmick and the gorilla glass or whatever screen is standard now but I can't complain.
Hopefully if Google changes the look of Moto's phones, they'll stick with a similar build.
That being said, I do have a few issues with my M - Sometimes it wants to stay on 3G in an area I have decent (although weak) 4G service and I need to toggle airplane mode to get it on 4G. And the plastic bit around the headphone port fell out.

All I'm gonna say is sometimes I effing hate this phone and other times I'm freaking pumped about its strength. Its like that hoop-d Honda you won't admit is yours but when you are driving you feel like its a Ferrari.
I was so bummed to go from the g-nex to this when I saw the dev on it, but now I have been feeling motivated to learn to dev myself for it! I love this device through and through... It has taken the biggest beating thus far, and I have beat up some phones...
Sent from my XT907 using xda app-developers app

Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!

stealthj said:
Coming from a Nexus family of phones.... and S2- S3, I'd have to say this phone is a piece of garbage lol...
Dual core krait like S3 but less pixels to run?? WHY IS THERE LAG?? HTC one S does not have lag and they have the same processor. Same with american HTC one X....
poor software poor software... have to stick with CM10 which gives me horrible battery life on GSM...
... oh and sometimes in orer for my phone to charge ( including wall outlet), i have to reboot the device...
very frustrating.
Time to get the asus padfone or something fun again
EDIT : Bunch of new roms past few days... lets see what we can do!
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Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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Leraeniesh said:
Never experienced lag on stock once you replace Moto's garbage launcher. Install Nova or Apex and give it another try.
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I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit

stealthj said:
I did, the lag was systemwide. including the keyboard...swype...
But its not that bad, i may have exaggerated a bit
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I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.

dingurt said:
I dunno... my lag is pretty bad. I tried CM 10.1 last night, and it's stupid fast. The only problem is that for some reason my cell signal dropped significantly with CM vs Stock.
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Those are just the signal bars. The actual signal is the same.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Hmm... I'll check that again then.