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My P8000 WISH LIST

I really really start to like the P8000. It may not have gazillions of gadgets features but it does all the important stuff well enough and long enough (due to the splendid battery). Taking into account the price, I like it even better than my Nexus 5. Because this phone is such a bargain, I hope that it will get the developer support it deserves.
This is my wish list.
Priority no. 1: Encryption support (unfortunately, this feature is missing from the stock ROM)
Priority no. 2: Custom kernel (this would probably allow us to overclock, use USB OTG, install TWRP etc.)
Priority no. 3: Custom ROM with smart network support (xposed + Gravity Box or Smart Network does not work on my P8000)
Priority no. 4: Support of Android API for RAW pictures
Feel free to add your wishes. Maybe a talented developer will take care of us

-Tiz- said:
I really really start to like the P8000. It may not have gazillions of gadgets features but it does all the important stuff well enough and long enough (due to the splendid battery). Taking into account the price, I like it even better than my Nexus 5. Because this phone is such a bargain, I hope that it will get the developer support it deserves.
This is my wish list.
Priority no. 1: Encryption support (unfortunately, this feature is missing from the stock ROM)
Priority no. 2: Custom kernel (this would probably allow us to overclock, use USB OTG, install TWRP etc.)
Priority no. 3: Custom ROM with smart network support (xposed + Gravity Box or Smart Network does not work on my P8000)
Priority no. 4: Support of Android API for RAW pictures
Feel free to add your wishes. Maybe a talented developer will take care of us
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When you say "Smart Network Support" in Priority 3, you mean the Smart Network Switch that turns of Mobile Data connection etc. when screen is off, yeah?
Try CPU Tuner and you can create profiles that trigger on different events like screen off. You can then choose to disable data connection, WiFi or whatever in that profile. You need to use it in Advanced Mode for full features I think.

Andy4Shurr said:
When you say "Smart Network Support" in Priority 3, you mean the Smart Network Switch that turns of Mobile Data connection etc. when screen is off, yeah?
Try CPU Tuner and you can create profiles that trigger on different events like screen off. You can then choose to disable data connection, WiFi or whatever in that profile. You need to use it in Advanced Mode for full features I think.
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Yes + thanks. I will try CPU Tuner.

-Tiz- said:
Yes + thanks. I will try CPU Tuner.
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I tried 3C Toolbox (seems to include CPU Tuner/System Tuner) and used a profile that switches off 4G when the screen is off. Anyway, it did not work...

working Bluetooth Music Stream without Skipping and Stopping :laugh:

For some reason, I am still on the July Stock ROM, and no updates to me whatsoever.
What I wish right now is:
- Better power management (for some reason, "Phone Idle" is always the top power consumer);
- Double tap to wake;
- Fix bluetooth issues (music skipping, gibberish play);
- Third party camera support;
- Possibility to overclock it;
- Fix small GPS hiccups;
And of course, Android Marshmallow update.

Rizera said:
For some reason, I am still on the July Stock ROM, and no updates to me whatsoever.
What I wish right now is:
- Better power management (for some reason, "Phone Idle" is always the top power consumer);
- Double tap to wake;
- Fix bluetooth issues (music skipping, gibberish play);
- Third party camera support;
- Possibility to overclock it;
- Fix small GPS hiccups;
And of course, Android Marshmallow update.
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If you update to the latest stock ROM or use Eragon custom ROM, you will be able to use third party cameras. I tested this myself.

How do I improve the speaker volume, I have tried mtk engineering mode but volume doesn't seem to have improved very much

HTC 10 varying from 50-60 fps

In every game I have played its lagged, I decided to download some apps that showed fps and it shows applications keep varying from 60fps, then seemingly becoming locked at 50 moments later. Can anyone download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle and report back please.

This.is.normal!
It cannot be a locked 60 fps framerate. This is Android we are talking about, not iOS.

Its literally not normal though, I have a galaxy s6 and it is locked to a solid 60fps, its not an intensive app, its literally a 2d bouncing ball

Ultimately I decided that I was very dissatisfied with the performance of the HTC 10 due to this, so it's going back for a refund.

50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!
Problem solved.

It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.

andy010101 said:
It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.
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It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).

TeroZ said:
It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).
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It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.

Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.

andy010101 said:
It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.
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I've just found out that enabling high performance mode in developer options can lift the 50fps lock. Give it a try
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purple patch said:
Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.
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This is not the case I'm afraid. It seems that HTC used fps lock to preserve battery life. On the contrary, HTC "optimized" for famous benchmarks like 3dmarks by loosing throttling policies.
I consider locking GPU at 50fps on a 60hz refresh rate screen is kind of a bad move.

You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.

Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?

Black_Eyes said:
You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.
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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?

andy010101 said:
If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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I think if you have s-off then it's possible

andy010101 said:
If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.

I have the same problem.my HTC 10 most of the time locked at 50 fps(when I release finger from screen) and it is very unusual in flagships such as gs7 or gs6.
Maybe HTC give an update to solve this issue
I also tried high performance option but it takes a lot of battery charge.
Is there anyone else have this problem?any suggestion? I don't wanna root my device for guarantee purposes
Someone please report this issue to HTC support.

CroCop18 said:
They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.
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You can even get the 'locked' flag if you're S-OFF

andy010101 said:
Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?
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You can disable PnPMgr if you don't want to use high performance mode to achieve the same effect. PnPMgr is HTC's proprietary power manager, disabling it may have an impact on battery life as well but looking at stats the difference isn't that huge in my case.
To disable pnpmgr, you'll need root and download a free app called "Kernel Toolkit". In the app there's a switch called "Pnpmgr" under the tab "Power", disable it.

@andy010101
long breath, here goes
HTC unlike all the previous, really put a leash on the HTC 10 SoC, remember "powerbotics" in their marketing? well it really means is Snapdragon 820 cripple, yet non of the s820 devices like G5/Mi5/OP3 suffer from this, HTC probably did this to squeeze some juice out of battery but don't we have powersaver modes for this? so why cheat...
this is whats going on stock HTC 10:
- The fourth BIG core, out of the two faster cores (which also benefit from bigger cache) will be disabled (via task migration) once battery is around 35c (which is the nominal operation temp anyway) so most of the time unless dead cold the device will be running without one of the big kryo cores, this is noticable in a multithreaded game like Dead Effect 2 which suddenly drops from 60fps range to 30 in 5 minutes
- The GPU governor is a lot more tolerant than it is on the OP3/G5/Mi5 s820 devices, its noticable in GPU loving game like Skyforce where it refuses to ramp up the GPU clocks and so the games runs at 30fps when it should be 60, also Suicide squad high graphics mode is another example
- HTC also locks to 50fps when they user is not interacting, which is discussed and sorted on this page, its a unique issue visible in games like Smash hit or games with offscreen controls
solutions for performance:
- Unlock, flash TWRP, flash EX kernel, the settings in EX are already tweaked to fix the CPU and GPU problems
- Even more you can flash the PNP mod and select performance profile (also i worked with the dev on this) to further unleash your 10 and even improve things like multitasking and standby battery life
just note if you decide to flash both EX and the mod you can set EX kernel min performance level to 0 in order for the pnp mod to take over (discussed here), otherwise without the pnp mod you need to leave EX min performance at the default 60
CleanSlate kernel is said to have the same fixes as well
happy modding the difference is day versus night in performance, Dead Effect 2, Skyforce and Suicide squad will all run in sweet 60 up to 30 minutes without a blink
If you are a stock only user and don't like what you just heard, then by all means take it to HTC, because they really deserve a nuke for this ****

HERE's THE FIX!
50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask :good: , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!

Fix quick settings and notification bar stutter and lag

Pull down quick settings, press 'edit', tap the 3 dot menu and uncheck all the boxes.
Just discovered this today. The lag used to be unbearable and was thinking about replacing the phone with a Nexus 6p or HTC 10.
Then I discovered this and the shade is completely buttery now, and plus, looks more like stock android!!
Hope this helps other people as it did to me.

MDW 100 said:
Pull down quick settings, press 'edit', tap the 3 dot menu and uncheck all the boxes.
Just discovered this today. The lag used to be unbearable and was thinking about replacing the phone with a Nexus 6p or HTC 10.
Then I discovered this and the shade is completely buttery now, and plus, looks more like stock android!!
Hope this helps other people as it did to me.
EDIT: I swear the fingerprint scanner is faster now and the whole UI is even smoother... Wow.
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You're talking about that ? (see screenshot)
I think it's a placebo effect, I do not see why some shortcuts would slow down the phone completely..
In addition the tab for brightness is very convenient to reset the automatic brightness when the phone takes time to change or remains blocked on a dim light (it's a problem on this phone I think, it's not very effective on auto brightness)
In any case I tried to see, for my part I do not see any difference, the phone has exactly the same behavior as the shortcuts is on !

I forgot the screenshot :angel:

Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?

MDW 100 said:
Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?
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Interestingly enough, I've done the same as you.
The problem in doing this is how difficult it is to find this toggle when your brightness is EXTREMELY low and the sun is beaming in your face. Unlike having a whole row to tap on and adjust, you have to tap on one singular point on your display, and I found this frustrating.
Anyways, disabling everything in that list did help with the lag a bit. Even if it was just barely noticeable.

The improvement was more than barely noticeable for me... Made it seem like a software bug.
Having said that, I don't think it's acceptable for a company like LG to release a phone at this price that has any lag issues at all, agree? I'll have spent $674 equiv. just on the phone by the time my contract is up. Loved the phone overall, thought the lag might improve, also thought I would promptly get Oreo (being LG) which might help. None of those happened, and I ran out of time to return it. Silly me...

MDW 100 said:
Maybe it's different for other people. When I had those enabled, it definitely was jerky to pull down quick settings, especially using the swipe down shortcut on my launcher. Now it's really smooth for me, which is how it should be with a sd 821. Shouldn't be a challenge for it.
I did find the brightness slider useful but, and I know this sounds weird, I would happily trade those shortcuts (including 'file sharing' etc. which I never used) for a much smoother and cleaner looking notification shade (and btw I have next to 0 lag tolerance... Should have got a Pixel ?). Instead I used Nougat/Oreo Quick Settings to change it to a quick settings toggle and I think this is a good solution considering that personally I hardly ever change the brightness from auto.
Thanks for the reply, interesting how some G6s seem to lag and others don't. Also I've never had a problem with auto brightness ?
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Maybe it depends on the version of the phone, I'm on h870
On mine auto brightness is really slow, sometimes I need to adjust myself because it is sometimes too strong or too weak compared to the situation, maybe my sensor that is badly calibrated..
Otherwise I agree, sharing files is useless and for the volume I already have the keys, so it is disabled on my side.
It is true that we see a lot of different returns depending on the users of this phone, especially on performance and autonomy, personally I'm lucky, good performance, good battery life and good focal length (2.01)

coyot352 said:
Maybe it depends on the version of the phone, I'm on h870
On mine auto brightness is really slow, sometimes I need to adjust myself because it is sometimes too strong or too weak compared to the situation, maybe my sensor that is badly calibrated..
Otherwise I agree, sharing files is useless and for the volume I already have the keys, so it is disabled on my side.
It is true that we see a lot of different returns depending on the users of this phone, especially on performance and autonomy, personally I'm lucky, good performance, good battery life and good focal length (2.01)
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Yeah auto brightness is pretty slow to react on mine too...
I also have a European H870. It has moments of absolute fluidity out of the blue and it's awesome, and also moments of being so bogged down it's unusable. Everything else is somewhere in between. It feels like a fast phone but it doesn't feel like a OnePlus 3t, which has the same chipset. That's even after debloating the phone almost entirely. I don't really want to install a custom ROM like LOS yet, although I've heard that helps.

If your LG G6 is rooted, install a custom kernel, from Play Store try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps should help, if you installed a custom kernel, play using Kernel Adiutor. Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering, Disable HW Overlays" should make the beast smoother/snappier. Install adblocker too.
This is the better solution for stuttering/lag.

Ali Mirza said:
If your LG G6 is rooted, install a custom kernel, from Play Store try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps should help, if you installed a custom kernel, play using Kernel Adiutor. Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering, Disable HW Overlays" should make the beast smoother/snappier. Install adblocker too.
This is the better solution for stuttering/lag.
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I do not have root at the moment on my phone, but when I do, I will give Kernel Adiutor a try. Thanks!

h870 here, unchecking these boxes didnt make any difference.
although i have to agree that this phone is sometimes weirdly laggy while usuall being smooth most of the time

Thx for letting us know about that menu! Those settings don't produce stuttering for me thankfully, but I disabled them anyway and enabled the volume slider which I love to have there
nice!
The only thing that creates slight stutters (very rare though) on my Orea LG G6 is when I use the ported pixel 2 live wallpapers.

A50 General performance/smoothness feedback

I have been using the SM-A505G for almost 2 weeks now. However, I feel that the general performance/smoothness is not good always.
I see many occasional stutters throughout the day and the phone is not as responsive as I would have liked it to be always. Slight stutter are present, and sometimes small things like keyboard would open 1 second later, or swiping from one home screen to another is not smooth many times, or some other minor delays like that. I tried the Samsung One UI launcher and also the Rootless Launcher, but had similar experience on both. I had been using a Nexus6p so far with custom roms, and while this phone is much faster than that, I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. Can anyone else share their experience?
I am not playing any games or running many apps on my device as well and am more of a casual user.

Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.

Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?

manish_bhaumik said:
I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. .
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Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case

pabgar said:
Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
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Hoping that's something which Samsung will fix then. Not sure how their track record is on non flagship devices.

shadow_khan said:
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
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Yeah I am trying with some changes to see what works. I switched to lawnchair launcher v2. Seems to be smoother than the others so far. The call screen/dialer is slow for me too.

AjBeld said:
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I can go that route later in the life cycle of the phone assuming it supports all that, but this is not something I really wanted to do in the first year itself.

Question Miui "enhanced edition" discussion

has anyone tried it yet ? its already out for china rom 12.5.5
how's the battery life? any noticeable change in performance/ overall smoothness?
waiting for mmx personally

its smoother than the previous versions of miui, if someone like miui i can highly recommend it, battery like before

r3sp said:
its smoother than the previous versions of miui, if someone like miui i can highly recommend it, battery like before
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I'm curious..i'm user mi10t pro..and my firmware on 12.5.5..my question is..can i still get miui enhanced edition??

Eximous69 said:
I'm curious..i'm user mi10t pro..and my firmware on 12.5.5..my question is..can i still get miui enhanced edition??
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Check Xiaomi updater website if there is a newer version to be installed...
Idk , for me personally I'm only in for the performance mode toggle - if you can see it inside battery settings of security center just enable it and you should be good.

Rstment ^m^ said:
Check Xiaomi updater website if there is a newer version to be installed...
Idk , for me personally I'm only in for the performance mode toggle - if you can see it inside battery settings of security center just enable it and you should be good.
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Is performance mode locking screen to 120hz like that battery clear data trick?

bla33 said:
Is performance mode locking screen to 120hz like that battery clear data trick?
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Nope , miui is still trash because of that ...
There's literally no fix for that , I'm thinking of modifying the app that's in charge of handling that to remove all the locks on certain apps but I've still no idea how to remove drop to 60hz after not touching screen... If you remove the app you lose fast charging and usability of basically everything on the phone

Rstment ^m^ said:
Nope , miui is still trash because of that ...
There's literally no fix for that , I'm thinking of modifying the app that's in charge of handling that to remove all the locks on certain apps but I've still no idea how to remove drop to 60hz after not touching screen... If you remove the app you lose fast charging and usability of basically everything on the phone
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yeah . that sucks. drops really kill smoothness of the phone. Im using it in 120hz all the time but dont know how long will that clear data thing work. i got used to 120hz+ displays over the years so i can really feel that stutter .
if i loose 1hr sot over it i dont realy care

How to force this update? Change region?

This "enhanced edition" is just a bunch of lies, there's nothing new, the performance is exactly the same, no new features are added, this just generates a "placebo effect" in those who really believes that this really changes anything.
There are plenty of videos on youtube that demostrates this, and I also experienced this by myself.

In 12.5.4/12.5.5, if you had green tint, go to brightness settings and disable the smoothen transitions option. It's enabled by default and fixes the tint issue (for me).
Make sure you change the brightness once.

It's hard to see when u don't wanna see