Many S3 users are complaining that tmobile hasnt released kitkat for the S3 while all the other carriers have. I'm one of those complainers. But why cant a dev just take a Sprint kitkat rom and mod it to allow wifi calling for the tmobile S3? Shouldnt that be easy to do?
If it was easy it would've been done already
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yahanna said:
Many S3 users are complaining that tmobile hasnt released kitkat for the S3 while all the other carriers have. I'm one of those complainers. But why cant a dev just take a Sprint kitkat rom and mod it to allow wifi calling for the tmobile S3? Shouldnt that be easy to do?
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no, WiFi calling has NEVER been ported. So the only ROMs that will have WiFi calling on them are ROMs based on a T-Mobile OS that included WiFi calling. Since every KK ROM on TMO is a port, the OS it NEEDS to be based on technically doesn't exist.
read this to get a better idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313&page=8
there is already a bounty for a port in the thousands... to give you an idea of the simplicity
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no, WiFi calling has NEVER been ported. So the only ROMs that will have WiFi calling on them are ROMs based on a T-Mobile OS that included WiFi calling. Since every KK ROM on TMO is a port, the OS it NEEDS to be based on technically doesn't exist.
read this to get a better idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313&page=8
there is already a bounty for a port in the thousands... to give you an idea of the simplicity
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Hi 52brandon. Thanks for letting me kbow. By chance, have you heard of StockMOD Rom? It includes wifi calling but is based on 4.3. If youve heard of it what do you think of it?
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Hi 52brandon. Thanks for letting me kbow. By chance, have you heard of StockMOD Rom? It includes wifi calling but is based on 4.3. If youve heard of it what do you think of it?
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I have not. I don't have TMO (yet. Got grandfathered data on VZW which is nice. But TMO is cheaper, has perfect coverage in my area, and 3x LTE speeds. So probably gonna switch and sell my grandfathered plan AoL. First gonna try to get my number. I heard there's a way to do it with Google Voice, but that's a different topic. I just follow the VoIP developments to see how it goes. IMO every carrier should offer it. I'd love to see some ROM team geniuses get it figured out
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I I'd love to see some ROM team geniuses get it figured out
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Yeah I agree. This is the reason why I'm thinking of getting a Note 3 and selling my S3. Its just weird that tmobile wont release kitkat for the S3. Good luck with selling that grandpa plan. I know how its like being grandfathered into a plan. I was there too.
Just so you guys know, other carriers may soon get the hint and follow T-Mobiles lead on wifi calling. Sprint apparently is just now beginning to introduce it on their networks. From what I hear, its very restricted though, and is nowhere near as good as T-Mobile, but its a start!
Don't hold your breath for finding a way to port it into non Tmobile roms though. The work involved in modding many different parts of the o/s is probably much greater than anyone realizes, and without the full source code is next to impossible. It would require modding of system apps, frameworks, libs, drivers and modules, as well as the base firmware itself, most notably, the modem.
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Just so you guys know, other carriers may soon get the hint and follow T-Mobiles lead on wifi calling. Sprint apparently is just now beginning to introduce it on their networks. From what I hear, its very restricted though, and is nowhere near as good as T-Mobile, but its a start!
Don't hold your breath for finding a way to port it into non Tmobile roms though. The work involved in modding many different parts of the o/s is probably much greater than anyone realizes, and without the full source code is next to impossible. It would require modding of system apps, frameworks, libs, drivers and modules, as well as the base firmware itself, most notably, the modem.
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Really? Its good to hear that Sprint is including wifi calling. But I feel that the S3 wont get it in future releases based on what I read that kitkat is the last Android version for it. If by chance its included in a future release, it'll be months before it comes out. By then I'd have sold my S3.
Regarding the hard work that goes into modding a rom, I'm glad you explained it in detail. That opens up my eyes about how hard it is for a dev to invest his time and energy in modding a rom just right. I didnt know before how difficult it was. Many times we end users take devs for granted not knowing the sheer sacrifice you guys make to make us all happy. We look at you guys as wizards instead of human beings and expect you to give us what we want at the drop of a hat as if by magic, not appreciating your hard labor. For that I thank you Doc. Talk to you again.
Glad I could help!
Unless im mistaken, Sprint will be introducing their wifi calling with the S5/Note4. Not sure if the S4 will see it, bit you're right about kk being the last update for the S3.
As I understand it, they've still got a ways to go to make it as good as T-Mobiles offering, but it'll be better than not having it all!
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Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.
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Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
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I do believe its because alot of the dev's are waiting on their phones to arrive. The phone just got released by mail,(not in stores yet). So I think as they start to get their phones we will see more roms popping up. I am rooted but I have yet to flash a rom. I am still running stock.. I am waiting for a bigger selection.
yea you are going to have to wait i would say about 1/8 of the people who want the phone have one. I got lucky when getting mine.
So basically the developers are waiting for their phones to arrive so they can start work on building custom ROMs?
That makes sense, thanks for the reply. Can't wait until I can unleash the potential of this beast.
yes, you gotta think the international version has been out for a min. now, and didnt have to deal with nearly as many shortages due to supply and demand kinda of deal. Here we have shortages all across just about every carrier. Some people got their phones, others are waiting until their pre orders come, some are waiting until they are sold in stores, I give it a few more weeks, maybe even a month and we will all get our fix of ROMS, im definitely excited on how they will get them to work across the major carriers here.
The default behavior for the icons on AT&T is as follows:
E = Edge
3G = 3G area, should be almost nowhere in the states anyway
4G = HSPA+, or 3.5G or whatever you want to call it.
4Glte = LTE network
Of course any custom ROM can change those, and you'll need to make sure you have the proper APN settings for your carrier.
Hope that helps,
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Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.
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Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!
Jsick said:
Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!
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I'm not a touchwiz fan either, but when I use a 3rd party launcher (e.g. Nova Prime, Apex, Go Launcher) it removes most of the annoying things imho.
I am working on a rom myself, though it is more difficult since none of the windows based tools function well at all for ICS 4.0.4 TW based stuff. I could install a VM of Linux but I don't have the time for that right now. I will get around to it.
Don't worry you guys will get tons of ROM's soon. Same thing happened with the I777 .GS2, started really slow then they blew up.
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Most people just started receiving there phones and working on custom roms. If you itching to flash try working on your own rom i did and its very unstable but I'm getting there. It require more time then i thought. We should be good on roms in a few weeks.
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I am waiting for my Note 2 but am curious about something - I currently have a Galaxy SIII and some t-Mobile ROMS are compatible with my phone - work very well actualy (Frosty JB is one example) Does anyone know if this is the same for the Note 2? Are the ATT Note 2 phones similar enough to the TMobile ones that TMobile roms will be able to work with little or no modifications?
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I am waiting for my Note 2 but am curious about something - I currently have a Galaxy SIII and some t-Mobile ROMS are compatible with my phone - work very well actualy (Frosty JB is one example) Does anyone know if this is the same for the Note 2? Are the ATT Note 2 phones similar enough to the TMobile ones that TMobile roms will be able to work with little or no modifications?
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Tried and tested... works but no signal or IMEI
Frosty ?
That's too bad - I am not a dev - but it seems to me that if those two things are the only things that don't work, it wouldn't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they are doing) to port it over to ATT?
I wonder if we could talk the Dev who developed FROSTY for TMOBILE to port it ? I'd be willing to give a decent donation to him - maybe I will try to bribe him -
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That's too bad - I am not a dev - but it seems to me that if those two things are the only things that don't work, it wouldn't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they are doing) to port it over to ATT?
I wonder if we could talk the Dev who developed FROSTY for TMOBILE to port it ? I'd be willing to give a decent donation to him - maybe I will try to bribe him -
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Lol. Bribe tends to work. Best usually are pledges for donation. I for one would like to donate pledge to devs who make porting ROMS from the international version to the rest of us poor folks. Love to finally have a TW based MIUI again. Only seem to happen on international so far. I am no dev either but it doesn't seem impossible from what I have seen so far from "simple" folks like us trying to run different version note 2 ROMs on their devices. But then again sometimes things are harder then they seem. I just like to push for a dev jont effort on this to which I would love to give my pledge.
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Tried and tested... works but no signal or IMEI
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That's not good...were you able to retrieve your imei?
I remember when I had my fascinate we had to flash our original modems to be able to use custom roms, maybe its similar to that?
WiFi calling is a TOUCHWIZ feature, its built in, no AOSP based ROM and that includes CyanogenMod, AOKP, or Paranoid Android has it.
Does any one knows why it's only TOUCHWIZ feature? Why others don't use it?
I'm using right now [ROM][TMO][4.3] Illusion v2.5, like it a lot, just need wifi calling, since inside my house or work I'm getting very low or no signal.
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IGontar20 said:
WiFi calling is a TOUCHWIZ feature, its built in, no AOSP based ROM and that includes CyanogenMod, AOKP, or Paranoid Android has it.
Does any one knows why it's only TOUCHWIZ feature? Why others don't use it?
I'm using right now [ROM][TMO][4.3] Illusion v2.5, like it a lot, just need wifi calling, since inside my house or work I'm getting very low or no signal.
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Because it's built into the framework. Need some help from T-Mobile to make it happen. One of the CM devs said that, can't remember which.
Aerowinder said:
Because it's built into the framework. Need some help from T-Mobile to make it happen. One of the CM devs said that, can't remember which.
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Ok, they can't get T-Mobil's help?
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Ok, they can't get T-Mobil's help?
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Highly doubt T-Mobile would want to allow them to do it. I'd imagine it could possibly become a huge problem trying to offer support. Plus if something isn't up to T-Mobiles standard, they are not going to want it to be out there like that.
I'd guess they would want it to be a priority for updates too.
More than that though is the fact that CM is built to work on as many devices for as many carriers as possible. They are not going to spend the time and effort to develop anything that is so carrier and device specific. If anyone were to try, it would have to be an extremely talented dev who actually has this phone and is on T-Mobile.
As aerowinder pointed out, it's dependant on the touchwiz framework. This means that just like all the other features people wanted on CM, it would be extremely difficult to port, if even possible in the first place, and therefore will most likely not happen.
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Highly doubt T-Mobile would want to allow them to do it. I'd imagine it could possibly become a huge problem trying to offer support. Plus if something isn't up to T-Mobiles standard, they are not going to want it to be out there like that.
I'd guess they would want it to be a priority for updates too.
More than that though is the fact that CM is built to work on as many devices for as many carriers as possible. They are not going to spend the time and effort to develop anything that is so carrier and device specific. If anyone were to try, it would have to be an extremely talented dev who actually has this phone and is on T-Mobile.
As aerowinder pointed out, it's dependant on the touchwiz framework. This means that just like all the other features people wanted on CM, it would be extremely difficult to port, if even possible in the first place, and therefore will most likely not happen.
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Thanks for the info.
I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...
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Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...
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None of this made any sense. I've noticed one thing. All these custom kernels and roms eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it. Never fails. All of them. Stock kernel for the win. All these gimmicky "badass governer" etc. suck.
I've been flashing forever, and I know what I'm talking about. I was using insane hybrid, and it worked good out the box, then a few days later what do you know, same lag like every custom rom and kernel will give you.
And no T-Mobile wifi, no go. Google hangouts sounds like trash in terms of reception. Tmobiles actual wifi calling is flawless victory.
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And I'm already waiting for a bunch of posters to say, "what???, I'm using rom x, and blah blah blah, its amazing!"
Bros, I've been flashing for years, there's not a single rom on this planet that beats a stock firmware, and just uninstall bloatware manually, while using xposed installer. I've seen the light, and I've compared custom roms to stock, untouched, and just manual uninstalls. No comparison.
Roms without wifi calling is a bastardized version of what this phone supposed to be. Truth.
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lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I've been using it all day today, and my room vets horrible cell reception. Asked everyone how I sounded, said crystal clear, and they sounded crystal clear. I finally came to the light.
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OldeCrow said:
lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"
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My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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HKSpeed said:
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.
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I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.
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Your response makes me think perhaps my work's WIFI is somehow blocking wifi calling from working, although i can log on to wifi with my phone. I get excellent reception everywhere except in my office at work. WIFI calling worked at home but i dont know if it makes any difference since i have excellent reception anyway.
WIFI calling hasn't done anything for me, so i dont factor it into choosing a ROM.
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My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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OldeCrow said:
Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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Maybe I'm just really good at paying attention to detail. I'm OCD when it comes to any slight changes with my phone.
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all with galaxy mod scripts.
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What are these scripts you speak of?
I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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What are these scripts you speak of?
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topic in the unified s4 section Galaxy_Mod_Ultimate
versions of these basic android scripts have been around forever, you've probably had them and not known it...
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I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
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tikay00 said:
Does that mean I have to flash roms made for that model??? Or do I still have to flash sgh m919 roms?
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.
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You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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it's just my opinion, from my experience. it never worked for me.
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Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.
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Ain't that serious boss lmao.
Reason why I asked that is because I don't flash other model roms onto my T-Mobile device. That would actually make me careful, and wise.
Have you ever seen that one snl skit with Jimmy Fallon where he plays the sarcastic IT guy? You remind me of him
I never said I don't like custom roms, and when did I ever bad mouth someone's work? I'm just speaking the truth. Yeah, when you first flash a rom, your phone flies. Then give it a week, and it ALWAYS lags, slows down, or over heats eventually. It's never failed. Every single last rom, EXCEPT Jedi mind tricks ROM for the S2. I swear by that rom, but even then, you realize, half the trick to these roms are just changing the windows animations to 0. Let's be real. And honestly, even then, Jedi mind tricks would eventually start to random reboot, and have certain problems with certain roms.
Ok, here's an example of a problem with a current rom I used a week ago. Won't name names since you think I'm "bad mouthing" the devs. When I'm on my stock Samsung firmware, GPS works like an absolute charm, but when using a certain custom rom, the Google maps starts me off inverted, the map looks different, and the GPS cuts in and out.
Mind you, this is one of the most reliable and populat custom roms for this phone.
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I'd love to have WiFi calling again but since I switch SIMs around occasionally when traveling internationally it's not been a big deal. A T-Mobile provided wireless repeater helps with the deadspot in my living room while in the US. Having CM 12.1 is way more important for me than an outdated, insecure KitKat rom.
Now, if Samsung/T-Mobile releases 5.1.1 with the StageFright fix built in then the stock Touchwiz rom will be redeemed in my mind.
Isnt ATT usually the first to get it? Why are we last all sudden?
No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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That said there are builds out there. I've been running the following build for a week or so and it's absolutely wonderful. Better than any LP ROM I've even tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/cm13-lg-g3-test-builds-t3245744
Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.
kimocal said:
Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.
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I'm running the second build and it is good so far, except for the odd random reboot or I'll have to pull the battery.
Wow no GPS = no ingress or maps. Pulling the battery might as well be cm12.1
Cuzz1369 said:
No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?
lolwatpear said:
OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?
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You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.
Cuzz1369 said:
You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.
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AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.
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I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.
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I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.
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Thanks. Yes, that's what I meant. ATT is the reason why devs don't have ATT phones, even ones that are very open to development. They must not see a point in developing for a device with less already-established devs and less users.
As for my previous questions, I legitimately wanted to know where the devs who had just worked on 12.1 cm went. I just didn't know how the nightlies worked.
Updates for CM13.0 d850 here
Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.
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Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.
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I've been running your 20160305 for the past couple days and it's been very stable. Thanks for sharing your nightlies.
does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?
Has anyone tried running the official cm13 build from T-mobile G3? The only difference I'm aware of is WiFi calling.
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does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?
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everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue
there is already CM13 for D850
http://subefotos.com/ver/?034b03d64343e75988549fff7cd5a5f2o.jpg
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everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue
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What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)
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What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)
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yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
I wanted to be able to use android pay whenever I need to.
For a stock base, LG really has everything I need but I still overlay nova prime launcher to clean things up a bit. Its little things like not having to worry about whether or not an app is going to load or crash the entire system. Also not having to worry if a reboot or shut down is going to lock my phone and require a battery pull, which I have not had to do once since going to stock.
In the event that I do go to sell the phone off it generally is more desirable to have stock OS.
Oh also, my wife got a new galaxy s7 so we can do VoLTE calling now =-)
This might be my imagination but the cell tower service seems more consistent with at&t stock os.
Have no need for root and no need for kernels or any of cm's little oddities.
Sometimes I think the maintainers change things in the rom just for the sake of changing something, whether its necessary or not and without regard for whether it might wreck havoc on the entire system stability
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yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
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I'm on Cricket so it won't let me OTA to 6.0 unless I have an active AT&T SIM. I'm hoping someone at a Cricket store has one lying around that I can borrow. But I get what you mean. Whenever there was a nightly I liked that gave me no problems, I stuck to it like glue I actually gave CM13 a try for a while, today, and it was like butter. But the one thing that don't like losing from LG stock is the "content lock" in the gallery. I haven't seen a 3rd party app that encrypts and locks them down like LG; others just hide it with .nomedia or their app is bulky or they convert it but can't recover images anymore.
Thanks for replying