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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...
Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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mauricehall said:
Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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CM9 will come with root access turned off (from the rom) by default. There is a new option so that you can turn root on be it for
Disabled,
Enabled for ADB only
Enabled for Apps only
Enabled for both.
That's all this really is.
Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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You CAN enable ADB root using ADB which almost seems like a security flaw ADB root access is off by default as well.
But from what I have read ADB will not be required to set this. It just has to be changed by the user from the development options.
I have been wondering about this for a looooooong time. When we root our devices we are voluntarily opening up the biggest hole possible. I'm glad to see it addressed in such a practical manner.
Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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....maybe it's just the devices you've owned?
Ask someone with an OG droid, or someone with an Evo, or a Hero, or a GSM Samsung Anything....Hell, CM7 is fantastic on my Nook Color....Cm9 is too, though--I don't remember--I think It's a kang....
The only issue I've had has been with CDMA Samsung handsets...
EDIT: I guess what I mean to say is, there is so much to support that unless you have one of the heavily supported (or easily supported) devices then the fact that it boots up and works at all should be impressive enough.....On all the above mentioned devices I had a nearly flawless experience far preferable to stock....and even with the CM7 kangs (though I haven't tried the CM9s yet). I'm not so sure we'll ever get official support at this rate, though I'm not convinced that's a death sentence. Bubby's Cm7 was working nearly flawlessly for me, aside from a scant few mildly irritating bugs....
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Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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I saw nightlies left and right on my OG Evo and though the E4GT may not get official CM7 support, We'll surely get offical CM9.
They couldn't get much done for a while because they were using older servers that couldn't keep up. Now they have nightlies going on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Xoom, Asus Transformer, Asus Transformer Prime, and the HP Touchpad.
I'm sure we'll get nightlies soon enough and you'll be seeing official functioning ROM's everywhere.
We already have functional CM9.
What is AOKP built on anyway?
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...
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I think they're trying to go mainstream, maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.
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maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.
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Problem is the root is still easily accessible. You would see them providing rooting methods for their own software before you saw that. The carriers would also want nothing to do with it. The manufacturer still has the concern of warranty while the carriers have the concern of tethering etc. Carriers likely would never reject an entire manufacturers line, they will always have to cave to some things they do not like.
Though selling unlocked devices with CM much as PC manufacturers will sell hardware with alternative operating systems isn't outrageous. As for the concern of warranty and software caused damage. Routers for example have set a precedent in the support of custom firmware while maintaining warranty. There is plenty of unbricking support in routers. Though providing accessible jtag interfaces in devices that would be sold both retail and unlocked would probably be interesting. Thats just a need in a worst case scenario though not required.
They do seem to be moving in that direction for whatever intent or purpose.
We've seen lots of complaining in the last couple of days about what is and isn't working in these ports.
It seems GPS may or may not be working correctly, that it may or may not be due to the Leap Second.
WiFi, Bluetooth, volume... if you have these issues, they can mostly be remedied. If not, gratz.
The fact is, these Roms are ports of development previews on a phone slightly but importantly different than yours running an OS that hasn't been released yet.
I was deeply amazed and impressed that some developers had working ports to CDMA the very night it was announced for GSM.
I'd you are running one of these JB ports and you find that it works well enough as a daily driver, consider yourself fortunate and hit the thanks button on the OP, maybe even donate.
If you are trying it out, but find that it lacks the stability or functionality that you require, click the thanks button on the OP anyway because they spent the time to give you something now for free that which you would otherwise have to wait weeks for, or, considering VZW's track record, maybe never.
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
Nevertheless I'm very pleased with JB. Everything is working beautiful for me. I using daily driver now without any issues. Just the stock JB at that. I'm not much for all the features of Roms. More into kernel tweaks which I do miss from glados kernel. But Franco is doing fine for now.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
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Thats why I put going to Google IO one year at least on my bucket list.
i think people are forgetting these roms are from nandroids! lol!
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
Half of the JB "hate" posts are not "my app doesn't work, JB sucks!" but rather "my app doesn't work, I'm posting it in case someone has stumbled upon a fix"
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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chancy319 said:
Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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No, it succinctly indicates the issue at hand.
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I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
well you know what the say "everything's amazing these days, nobody's happy"
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
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Would you mind? I can find download locations out there but I'm not sure what version's needed.
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The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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I hate you for making me google bronies.
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I hate you for making me google bronies.
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Bring on the hate :cyclops:
These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
I had to look up bronies as well.... I am sending along my hate alone with jesusice
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These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
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That sort of depends. There are some changes that have to be made to a ROM for the GSM model to be 'ported' to the CDMA models. So, it's a 'port' for those phones, because only the GSM developer preview was 'released'.
They do realize other top phones are just getting ice cream sandwich, and we Nexii already have Jelly Beans sweet taste in our mouths?? Ridiculous!
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One of those lucky ones everything is working just fine, still couldn't see any issues, and I flashed my phone on the 28/06
Funny how ICS was the major update but jb is more of a complete experience.
butter and jelly please...
Many S3 users are complaining that tmobile hasnt released kitkat for the S3 while all the other carriers have. I'm one of those complainers. But why cant a dev just take a Sprint kitkat rom and mod it to allow wifi calling for the tmobile S3? Shouldnt that be easy to do?
If it was easy it would've been done already
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yahanna said:
Many S3 users are complaining that tmobile hasnt released kitkat for the S3 while all the other carriers have. I'm one of those complainers. But why cant a dev just take a Sprint kitkat rom and mod it to allow wifi calling for the tmobile S3? Shouldnt that be easy to do?
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no, WiFi calling has NEVER been ported. So the only ROMs that will have WiFi calling on them are ROMs based on a T-Mobile OS that included WiFi calling. Since every KK ROM on TMO is a port, the OS it NEEDS to be based on technically doesn't exist.
read this to get a better idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313&page=8
there is already a bounty for a port in the thousands... to give you an idea of the simplicity
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no, WiFi calling has NEVER been ported. So the only ROMs that will have WiFi calling on them are ROMs based on a T-Mobile OS that included WiFi calling. Since every KK ROM on TMO is a port, the OS it NEEDS to be based on technically doesn't exist.
read this to get a better idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313&page=8
there is already a bounty for a port in the thousands... to give you an idea of the simplicity
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Hi 52brandon. Thanks for letting me kbow. By chance, have you heard of StockMOD Rom? It includes wifi calling but is based on 4.3. If youve heard of it what do you think of it?
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Hi 52brandon. Thanks for letting me kbow. By chance, have you heard of StockMOD Rom? It includes wifi calling but is based on 4.3. If youve heard of it what do you think of it?
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I have not. I don't have TMO (yet. Got grandfathered data on VZW which is nice. But TMO is cheaper, has perfect coverage in my area, and 3x LTE speeds. So probably gonna switch and sell my grandfathered plan AoL. First gonna try to get my number. I heard there's a way to do it with Google Voice, but that's a different topic. I just follow the VoIP developments to see how it goes. IMO every carrier should offer it. I'd love to see some ROM team geniuses get it figured out
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I I'd love to see some ROM team geniuses get it figured out
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Yeah I agree. This is the reason why I'm thinking of getting a Note 3 and selling my S3. Its just weird that tmobile wont release kitkat for the S3. Good luck with selling that grandpa plan. I know how its like being grandfathered into a plan. I was there too.
Just so you guys know, other carriers may soon get the hint and follow T-Mobiles lead on wifi calling. Sprint apparently is just now beginning to introduce it on their networks. From what I hear, its very restricted though, and is nowhere near as good as T-Mobile, but its a start!
Don't hold your breath for finding a way to port it into non Tmobile roms though. The work involved in modding many different parts of the o/s is probably much greater than anyone realizes, and without the full source code is next to impossible. It would require modding of system apps, frameworks, libs, drivers and modules, as well as the base firmware itself, most notably, the modem.
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Just so you guys know, other carriers may soon get the hint and follow T-Mobiles lead on wifi calling. Sprint apparently is just now beginning to introduce it on their networks. From what I hear, its very restricted though, and is nowhere near as good as T-Mobile, but its a start!
Don't hold your breath for finding a way to port it into non Tmobile roms though. The work involved in modding many different parts of the o/s is probably much greater than anyone realizes, and without the full source code is next to impossible. It would require modding of system apps, frameworks, libs, drivers and modules, as well as the base firmware itself, most notably, the modem.
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Really? Its good to hear that Sprint is including wifi calling. But I feel that the S3 wont get it in future releases based on what I read that kitkat is the last Android version for it. If by chance its included in a future release, it'll be months before it comes out. By then I'd have sold my S3.
Regarding the hard work that goes into modding a rom, I'm glad you explained it in detail. That opens up my eyes about how hard it is for a dev to invest his time and energy in modding a rom just right. I didnt know before how difficult it was. Many times we end users take devs for granted not knowing the sheer sacrifice you guys make to make us all happy. We look at you guys as wizards instead of human beings and expect you to give us what we want at the drop of a hat as if by magic, not appreciating your hard labor. For that I thank you Doc. Talk to you again.
Glad I could help!
Unless im mistaken, Sprint will be introducing their wifi calling with the S5/Note4. Not sure if the S4 will see it, bit you're right about kk being the last update for the S3.
As I understand it, they've still got a ways to go to make it as good as T-Mobiles offering, but it'll be better than not having it all!
So I've been rooting since rooting existed on Android, but one thing that I don't understand is how it works, sort of. I know that google has to release the source, and the device has to have an unlocked boot loader. Then what? I know there's 4 variants of the G3 and the T-Mobile is the only one with an unlocked bootloader.
I'm not throwing a brick against the or anything but would like more info on why things like this happen, and I mean why we are not able to get CM on the G3 fully working. Just curious, and yes I did search.
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So I've been rooting since rooting existed on Android, but one thing that I don't understand is how it works, sort of. I know that google has to release the source, and the device has to have an unlocked boot loader. Then what? I know there's 4 variants of the G3 and the T-Mobile is the only one with an unlocked bootloader.
I'm not throwing a brick against the or anything but would like more info on why things like this happen, and I mean why we are not able to get CM on the G3 fully working. Just curious, and yes I did search.
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In my experience unless you are using a nexus device aosp roms are never 100% at least not until the phone is at the year/year and a half mark. Now if your talking about camera not working and stuff like that yeah its going to take time especially since only a hand full of devs are working on it in there spare time. On the plus side they will probably have most of the kinks hammered out before L releases and most of the changes and fixes will translate over.
Well what about the HTC M8, the S5, the Note series, the Xperia Z, all those have AOSP roms and most of those have been out less than a year. Again not complaining
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Well what about the HTC M8, the S5, the Note series, the Xperia Z, all those have AOSP roms and most of those have been out less than a year. Again not complaining
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We do have aosp roms.....
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We do have aosp roms.....
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Correct, but not fully working. Is it because LG is not releasing certain things ?or there's not enough developers with this phone?
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Correct, but not fully working. Is it because LG is not releasing certain things ?or there's not enough developers with this phone?
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I would think its because we don't have enough developers committing to the same rom ie we need official cyanogenmod github so the changes eventually end up in one spot that everyone even non g3 users feel comfortable sending a commit to.
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I would think its because we don't have enough developers committing to the same rom ie we need official cyanogenmod github so the changes eventually end up in one spot that everyone even non g3 users feel comfortable sending a commit to.
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Dang...this is like LGs biggest hit ever as a device. You would think that Cyanogen would acquire one.
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Dang...this is like LGs biggest hit ever as a device. You would think that Cyanogen would acquire one.
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Somebody will send a request to have a rom reviewed to be added to the official git. It will just take the one person and a little time. If you feel strongly about it you could ask one of the devs working on it to send it to the cm team for review but I bet one of them will after the camera is fixed. whoever does will have there name next to 99% of the commits in the official github so that person will have bragging rights.
Tom Marshall was working on it then intervigilium, who yesterday had some activity on his github and finally invisiblek as well, all with cyanogenmod. Not to mention the actual phone 2 of them are using belongs to...think it was Roman from AOKP. You also have the guys here working on it when they have time. My bet would be a few more weeks and it will be up and running properly.
Good to know, I love this phone however but I'm sure with an AOSP ROM it'll fly!!!
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So I've been rooting since rooting existed on Android, but one thing that I don't understand is how it works, sort of. I know that google has to release the source, and the device has to have an unlocked boot loader. Then what? I know there's 4 variants of the G3 and the T-Mobile is the only one with an unlocked bootloader.
I'm not throwing a brick against the or anything but would like more info on why things like this happen, and I mean why we are not able to get CM on the G3 fully working. Just curious, and yes I did search.
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coding a new rom takes time and devs work on their own dime as so few here actually donate anything to them. Phones and their hardware are becoming way more sophisticated each year and porting any flavor of rom is no longer something easily done. If people are impatient perhaps they need to open their wallets and give the devs some inspiration.............
I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...
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Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...
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None of this made any sense. I've noticed one thing. All these custom kernels and roms eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it. Never fails. All of them. Stock kernel for the win. All these gimmicky "badass governer" etc. suck.
I've been flashing forever, and I know what I'm talking about. I was using insane hybrid, and it worked good out the box, then a few days later what do you know, same lag like every custom rom and kernel will give you.
And no T-Mobile wifi, no go. Google hangouts sounds like trash in terms of reception. Tmobiles actual wifi calling is flawless victory.
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And I'm already waiting for a bunch of posters to say, "what???, I'm using rom x, and blah blah blah, its amazing!"
Bros, I've been flashing for years, there's not a single rom on this planet that beats a stock firmware, and just uninstall bloatware manually, while using xposed installer. I've seen the light, and I've compared custom roms to stock, untouched, and just manual uninstalls. No comparison.
Roms without wifi calling is a bastardized version of what this phone supposed to be. Truth.
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lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I've been using it all day today, and my room vets horrible cell reception. Asked everyone how I sounded, said crystal clear, and they sounded crystal clear. I finally came to the light.
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OldeCrow said:
lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"
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My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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HKSpeed said:
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.
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I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.
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Your response makes me think perhaps my work's WIFI is somehow blocking wifi calling from working, although i can log on to wifi with my phone. I get excellent reception everywhere except in my office at work. WIFI calling worked at home but i dont know if it makes any difference since i have excellent reception anyway.
WIFI calling hasn't done anything for me, so i dont factor it into choosing a ROM.
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tikay00 said:
My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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OldeCrow said:
Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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Maybe I'm just really good at paying attention to detail. I'm OCD when it comes to any slight changes with my phone.
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OldeCrow said:
all with galaxy mod scripts.
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What are these scripts you speak of?
I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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dirkdigles said:
What are these scripts you speak of?
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topic in the unified s4 section Galaxy_Mod_Ultimate
versions of these basic android scripts have been around forever, you've probably had them and not known it...
kevinrubio1 said:
I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
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tikay00 said:
Does that mean I have to flash roms made for that model??? Or do I still have to flash sgh m919 roms?
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.
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You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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it's just my opinion, from my experience. it never worked for me.
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HampTheToker said:
Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.
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Ain't that serious boss lmao.
Reason why I asked that is because I don't flash other model roms onto my T-Mobile device. That would actually make me careful, and wise.
Have you ever seen that one snl skit with Jimmy Fallon where he plays the sarcastic IT guy? You remind me of him
I never said I don't like custom roms, and when did I ever bad mouth someone's work? I'm just speaking the truth. Yeah, when you first flash a rom, your phone flies. Then give it a week, and it ALWAYS lags, slows down, or over heats eventually. It's never failed. Every single last rom, EXCEPT Jedi mind tricks ROM for the S2. I swear by that rom, but even then, you realize, half the trick to these roms are just changing the windows animations to 0. Let's be real. And honestly, even then, Jedi mind tricks would eventually start to random reboot, and have certain problems with certain roms.
Ok, here's an example of a problem with a current rom I used a week ago. Won't name names since you think I'm "bad mouthing" the devs. When I'm on my stock Samsung firmware, GPS works like an absolute charm, but when using a certain custom rom, the Google maps starts me off inverted, the map looks different, and the GPS cuts in and out.
Mind you, this is one of the most reliable and populat custom roms for this phone.
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I'd love to have WiFi calling again but since I switch SIMs around occasionally when traveling internationally it's not been a big deal. A T-Mobile provided wireless repeater helps with the deadspot in my living room while in the US. Having CM 12.1 is way more important for me than an outdated, insecure KitKat rom.
Now, if Samsung/T-Mobile releases 5.1.1 with the StageFright fix built in then the stock Touchwiz rom will be redeemed in my mind.