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4G Service Sucks....

Mine barely ever connects and then when it does, its like it doesn't know because no pages will load(connection error). Got my azz handed to me by Bionic yesterday. My coworker and I were out for happy hour and did a little speed test on 4g...yep he definitely got me.
I need some WIMAX tweaks immediately!!! LOL..but not really LOLing. Im serious

Verizon's network is better. (fact)
Sprint's phones are better. (fact, with minor opinion)
It's a hard choice, but Sprint's network is fantastic in Florida, so I can't really complain.

sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me

Success100 said:
sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me
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Same here. Full bar 4G inside my place in SoCal
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Bad 4g is normal with sprint
Sprint's wimax has a 2.5ghz frequency
This means it doesnt do to well when passing walls
Verizon's lte has a 700mhz frequency thats why it was better range
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I dont even have Sprint 4G here in Phoenix, and their 3G sucks. I get about .40mbps on average in Phoenix.

4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.

boe said:
4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.
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Sprint's 4G & 3G suck!

My 4g inside my house on first floor also sucks but verizon 4g also sucked at my house. In fact verizon dropped occasional calls and I needed to get a network extender. Sprint's network will get better but will probably need lte phone in the future to take advantage of it.

Try the wimax tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&page=6
Basically lets wimax latch on to a weaker signal

im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me

Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.

anubis13 said:
Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.
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well..umm..theres always VZ if it doesnt meet your needs? not trying to be funny but if you are dissatisfied maybe you should look into VZ if it doesnt work in the places you need it to homie

Success100 said:
im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me
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Same here, I was getting a little slower speeds but for the past week or so that's what I been getting

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Just outside of NW Houston, not super fantastic, but good imo
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I don't understand topics like this.
Its one thing to try to fix this issue (via tweaks, etc) its another to whine.
Feel free to leave any carrier whose network is not performing to your standards.

I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!

ravenstarr said:
I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!
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Yes, it sucks but the $10 premium is even for smartphones that do not have 4G.

Sprints 3g speeds have been pretty bad. Anyone I meet on other carriers have like 3mbps while mine has like 1mbps. One bar of 4g signal and I am at 3mbps, two or three bars and I am at 6mbps or more.

Sprint 4g works pretty well for me up and down the east coast anyway in major cities. I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in airports and hotels near airports. The only place I find Sprint to kind of suck is oddly New York.
I had T-mobile which worked most places but their service sucked for speed especially at my home, solid bars but only .4 Mbps with whereas I get 1 Mbps 3g and 8 Mbps 4G with Sprint. Almost as fast as my Comcast cable internet.
Anyway YMMV. Probably VZW is the "best" but their data plans suck with 2Gb limit and they're expensive as hell with poor customer service. Instead of complaining how about doing a little research, ask friends, and take advantage of the trial period and figuring out which works best for you in your area.

T Mobile throttling.

When T-Mobile throttles you after 2gb of HSPA+ data usage, do they throttle you to 3G or down to EDGE?
I'm wondering because I'm giving a lot of consideration to switching to T Mobile to get the SGS3 and I was wondering this.
Also, anyone who has T Mobile now, what is your usage like? How many gigs do you use monthly?

Hey from what I can tell they throttle you down to 2g, I have the 5 gb data plan you should call customer loyalty or retention and ask for the android preferred plan its 5 gbs for 20 worst they could say is no. I've been with tmo for about 6 yrs and have been very happy with them. Had Att/Cingular before and hated their customer service, also reception with tmo is actually very good since they have wifi calling it allows me to get reception where many carriers just don't get reception.
Data usage wise it really depends what you use your phone for I use around 4 gbs monthly but I tether heavily about 6 hrs a week, streaming youtube and pandora. If I didn't tether I would prob use less then 2 gbs I would think. It really depends just what you do on your phone. (I dont use my phone to watch Youtube or anything I just tether).

I have a 2gb 4g plan and on occasion I go over my limit, however, I have not noticed a big difference in speed. I'm sure if I ran a speed test I would be able to see drastic change in speeds but for steaming music and video I never have to wait for it to buffer or anything.
The only times I really go over my limit is if I am on the road and I am tethering my laptop or tablet.

iCaptivate said:
When T-Mobile throttles you after 2gb of HSPA+ data usage, do they throttle you to 3G or down to EDGE?
I'm wondering because I'm giving a lot of consideration to switching to T Mobile to get the SGS3 and I was wondering this.
Also, anyone who has T Mobile now, what is your usage like? How many gigs do you use monthly?
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When you go over your limit, you get throttled down to EDGE until you come up on a new month, and yes, it is very drastic going from 4G to edge :-/.
You can stream music *google music/pandora* on edge.
Everyone's answer is going to vary wildly on data usage.. I had 5 GB, streamed music everytime I was in the car, surfed a lot while away from wifi .. but when I was around wifi I kept it on.
I averaged a little over 2 GB .. only hit anywhere close to 5 GB a month that I didn't have wifi at home.

I had T Mobile before. but the throttle was from when I got into over 5gb. Since this is 2gb I figured they'd put me on 3G.

I think technically they throttle you to EDGE speeds, but your phone still uses WCDMA (3G).

dmchssc said:
I think technically they throttle you to EDGE speeds, but your phone still uses WCDMA (3G).
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Isn't T Mobile a GSM carrier? What would they have to do with WCDMA?

WCDMA (UMTS) is the 3rd generation standard in the GSM family. If you have 3G or HSPA+ labeled as 4G, and you are on a GSM carrier, you are using WCDMA. Confusingly, CDMA carriers like Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular, do not use WCDMA at all.

Just wanted to say I called retentions regarding this issue today and there was nothing they could do for me save telling me my etf and how to port my number to srpint. should I call back and try to get a diff. answer from another agent?
I also offered to upgrade my data to the 10gb if they could change my plan in another way (less mins) and keep it the same price. no dice.

Gopena said:
Just wanted to say I called retentions regarding this issue today and there was nothing they could do for me save telling me my etf and how to port my number to srpint. should I call back and try to get a diff. answer from another agent?
I also offered to upgrade my data to the 10gb if they could change my plan in another way (less mins) and keep it the same price. no dice.
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Keep trying. Someone will work with you. or threaten to cancel and go to sprint.

1SiK1500 said:
threaten to cancel and go to sprint.
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I actually did this but it didn't seem to make much difference. I will try again tomorrow!

fyi, when you're throttled, you keep normal icons/connections but are throttled to 100kbps. NOT 2g, not 3g but max of 100 kbps regardless your connection type (can still say 4g, it's just throttled).
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They throttle you down to about 2g. I upgraded to 5gb before heading out on my honeymoon. Took about 300 pics on my phone and synced them to drop box, g+ Made it home with data to spare
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Jaxidian said:
fyi, when you're throttled, you keep normal icons/connections but are throttled to 100kbps. NOT 2g, not 3g but max of 100 kbps regardless your connection type (can still say 4g, it's just throttled).
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This is the case. I'm still on HSPA+, but I hit my limit yesterday, and now I'm getting about 60kb/s down on speedtest. Unfortunately, that I've been able to find, most methods of bypassing the throttle limit no longer work, which is rather annoying, as I still have a week and a half before my billing cycle resets and 60k is too slow to stream music comfortably.

From someone who works for them..in communications they tell us it's a 2.5G speed that it is being slowed down to. Though these speeds are not always real life, based on where you live, how many many people are near and using the same tower etc etc. No one's experience will always be the same. Edge can sometimes be okay to use or it can be a pain.
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T Mobile reception sucks here in Kansas City, and when you are on the move really. When I got throttled, I was getting 2g speeds, and it was horrible. I couldn't use any app that used data.
T Mobile only has fast 3g in some cases, I would not consider their '4g' 4g because it was not very fast in the first place.
I would not recommend them.

[Q] Switching from ATT Galaxy S III to T-Mobile Galaxy S III (DC Metro)

ATT is screwing me by refusing to carry forward my unlimited data plan to LTE and has repeatedly tried to force me onto a capped plan.
I saw a newspaper ad today (archaic - I know!) saying T-Mo has an unlimited everything plan for this phone for $90 and it's tempting. I'm hoping to sell or swap my existing GS3.
Is there anything I should be aware of?
Also, what is T-mo's take on this plan if I try to tether?
Thanks.

I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.

psykhotic said:
I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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His S3 won't get HSPA on T-Mobile. He needs a T-Mobile S3.
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psykhotic said:
I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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I think I already made it clear I anticipated getting a new S3. I know that they aren't fully compatible for 3/4G/LTE.
Re: Tethering. I though this was a new plan - it appears to be as much in the advert.

They block tethering on unlimited data plans but rooted tethering might work. I haven't tried it yet.
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They are trying to kill teather with updates. I tried T-Mobile with still having my main line on att. Speeds were either really fast or dead slow. I'd rather just stick with att because it's decently fast wherever I go.
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I just recently re-upped with T-Mobile. They have two types of plans out right now. They have what they call the classic plan and I can't remember what their new plans are called.
Anyway, with the classic plan you get the phone subsidized, but the plan itself is pretty expensive. On the other hand if you get their newer plan, you pay full price for the phone, but the plan itself is dirt cheap (cheapest I can find among the major carriers). While $600 for a phone might seem like a lot, they only require a $200 down payment and since you're starting a new contract you'll probably get $100 or so knocked off. The rest of the price of the phone is spread throughout the first 20 months of your contract.
Applying a little basic finance and assuming you have a decent stock portfolio, I estimated my cost of my Galaxy S3 at around $350 and my monthly fees went down from $230-250 to its current $140-150.
Don't know much about T-Mobile signal in your area, but if you can manage a consistent 3G I'd say it's worth the cost savings.

I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000
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kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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galsalah said:
I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000View attachment 1339975kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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Outside buildings great. Inside of them not so much. Everyone has a different experience. Hopefully it will be better for you
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T-mobile lied to me

I have been with T-Mobile in Bloomington, IL for over 7 years now. The only thing I have ever complained about is data speeds in my area. So, when I read the following press release from T-Mobile last year, I was super excited.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/new-4g-markets-nov2011
In that release dated Nov 16th 2011, it says
"T-Mobile 4G markets where HPSA+ 42 service is launching today:
Bend, Medford and Corvallis, Ore.; Benton Harbor, Mich.; Bloomington, Champaign–Urbana and Springfield, Ill.; Columbus, Ga.; Hagerstown, Md.; Montgomery, Ala; Yuba City, Calif."
So, I have not seen a difference in speeds at all over the past year with the following phones, HTC Senseation, Galaxy Nexus GSM, HTC One S and the Galaxy S3.
I have never gotten anything above 3Mb anywhere in town. Now, when I call T-Mobile to inquire about my slow speeds, they tell me only 3G is offered in my area and that the speeds I am getting are consistent with there network. FYI my status tells me that my Mobile Network Type is HSPAP:15
Attached is a screenshot of my typical speeds. Am I getting ripped off on data speeds?
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Guess you better switch to Verizon.

Id love to see your speeds. Im on edge.
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Could it be that half of Bloomington is covered but the other half isn't, and you're in the bad half?

I would call customer service and politely ask to speak to tech support. Let them know your issue and ask to speak to a supervisor. When the supervisor gets on the phone tell them you want this to keep getting escalated until you get an answer.
I had a similar problem and it took two weeks to finally get anywhere.

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Could it be that half of Bloomington is covered but the other half isn't, and you're in the bad half?
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I have though the same thing, but Bloomington is a pretty small city and I have driven all over town doing speed test in the past. Plus, when I have called them, I am told that there is no 4G anywhere close to me. Does that make sense if my network type is HSPAP:15?

Your speeds are up to par with what I get. Hell they're better. I would say everything is normal. T-Mobile has very weird and spotty service. I'm hoping the reframing of the towers will help.
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Honestly you shouldnt be seeing much of a difference from people downloading at 10 Mbps... you're still downloading at 100 KB/s with 1 Mbps....

Chicago281 said:
I would call customer service and politely ask to speak to tech support. Let them know your issue and ask to speak to a supervisor. When the supervisor gets on the phone tell them you want this to keep getting escalated until you get an answer.
I had a similar problem and it took two weeks to finally get anywhere.
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Your problem was completely different. You had towers down in your area.
OP, you need to realize that every single phone you listed aside from the One S and S3 are NOT capable of HSPA+42. So that is your first problem. The second problem is that wherever you are in Bloomington, an HSPA+42 tower does not reach you. Coverage isn't always the best. I'm a five minute walk from Wrigley Field and a five minute drive to downtown Chicago and I only get 7-8mbps. I drive fifteen minutes west to where I went to high school, and I get speeds of 20-22mbps.
Third, HSPA+42 speeds are THEORETICAL. You can THEORETICALLY have speeds that fast. You aren't guaranteed to.
Also, HSPA+42 is still 3G.
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It looks like you encountered massive traffic or the backhaul is not upgraded.

I had the same problem. I kept upgrading phones, buying them full price so I didn't have to renew my contract but I just kept switching my old SIM card into my new phones. When I switched to the Sensation I called T-Mobile about my slow speeds and they told me I had to upgrade to a "4G SIM card" and that worked. I would say that could be your problem but being that you now have the S3 and it has the micro SIM card then maybe they didn't upgrade your area yet.

That sucks dude...I'm out in Orlando, FL and I usually get about 10-15mbps almost anywhere...
At home I get +15mbps every time...
I attached a photo with the difference of my WiFi at home and my HSPA+42 at home. These were after a ROM change so I only have 5.
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Do you notice the same speeds on other speed tests or super sluggish browsing?
It's possible to imagine that the nearest and even lowest pingable server is simple not responsive to your (up/down)link. I usually compare to freespeedtest.com and even grab files from local servers.
Also you server's routing table could be weird.
If not, I'm inclined to believe that it is an overhead problem.
Go to the phone dialer (on stock) and try doing
*#197328640#*
1:UMTS
1ebug Screen
1:Basic Information
And check the bottom item lines. You should see some connection information about your service. Can you list what you have?
Also, jic check the Band at the top and make sure it says 4. Possibly could be defaulting to 1900 experimental.

[Q] LTE speed drop

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that their LTE transfer speed drops after 3-4 seconds of high speed bursting.
I can consistently see this in the speedtest.net app, and also in large google market downloads.
The problem seems to kick in when the transfer speed goes over >~24mbps, and then it will just suddenly drop right down to pretty much 0, before slowly continuing at a much reduced speed. Same happens with the upload speed, but it seems to kick in around ~20mbps or less.
I've seen this at various places around the Bay Area in CA, so its not related to any local radio towers :-/
I hope my radio is not a lemon.. I first saw this when the phone was straight out the box, but I just shrugged it off. But its persistently there... (and I've 0x1'd my know now..)

Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
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benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
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Thanks, I will try the band idea.
I've asked the question on Tmobile's support forms, the issue may be QoS related, but who knows.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/56049
I have an ATT/straighttalk SIM coming on Monday to do some additional tests with.

benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
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How do we do this? And any issues if you do?

i get this issue as well. one thing i have noticed is that when you download a large app (50+ megs, which is actually a small app..) it will throttle me to less than 500 kbps after the first 20 seconds or 50-60 megs of progress. it stays there and never speeds back up.. i have cancelled many 100+ mb apps during downloading because they were literally constantly slowing down to the point where i didn't think they'd even finish until i hit my home wifi point. it does this on stock rom, darthstalker rom, saber kernel, compulsion kernel, stock kernel... i don't think it's the device, i think it's the service. going to keep on testing different combinations and see if i can find a fix irregardless. slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
*it's also worth noting, since i activated the TMo service yesterday, i haven't once seen more than two bars of service although i am in an area that is not largely populated and vastly surrounded by "great connection" area on T-Mobile:s page.

teknowiz23 said:
slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
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Are you on the 5GB/$30 prepaid plan? I wonder if the throttling is an unofficial policy on the prepaid plans.

Nope, on the normal plan that was supposed to take the place of the contracts. I get a bill at the end of the cycle like I did with att. Still happening. Its like anything I download hits a throttle after the first 200 megs. Lte speeds of 3-6 megs per sec, then bam... Sub 1 meg per sec the rest of the download. Even if there's 1gb+ left to go.
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I've been discussing this same problem over on HowardForums forums for a while: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1814258-Video-Streaming-being-throttled?p=15278529
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Recently, I've personally concluded that it has to do with T-Mobile working on towers in my area. There was a period of about a week or so where I was experiencing odd performance on both HSPA+ and LTE, where speeds will be fantastic for about 3-5 seconds, before dropping WAY down. Things have greatly improved recently. I did several tests the other day in several locations, and only one tower in particular resulted in the odd speeds in multiple tests. The next day, things were perfect. Then again, they recently went from 5x5 LTE to 10x10, so that could've had something to do with it.
My recommendation is to wait it out.
FYI: I'm on the $30/mo. prepaid plan (5GB @ high-seed, unlimited @ 2G).

https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/405454376916897797
"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"
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https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/405454376916897797
"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"