Hello,
I have a SM-P600 with Android 4.4.2 (Note 10.1 2014 Edition) and would like to use my 3G USB Key (Huawei E1752) ; This 3G stick works fine on my old TF101.
I've tried to use it with my SM-P600 but infortunetely, it doesn't seem to work, even with the "PPP Widget" apps. PPP Widget displays the famous "No driver found" issue. Josh, "PPP Widget" developer, told me ther eis no way for the moment to make his apps working because there is no loading module (.ko file).
So I wonder if I could use a SM-P601 ROM (SM-P600 with 3G) on my SM-P600 to get the right modules or flashinf P601 ROM on P600 means "brick"?
Otherwise is there another way to make a 3G USB key working on this tablet?
Best regards.
Unfortunately...
Part of the problem is that a custom kernel module would need to be loaded with root, via insmod, and this would need to be coded and constantly reinjected on boot. As far as I know most of these fobs do not make their drivers open-source, specifically, although I could see a possibility in modifying one of the generic drivers from a typical linux full install (likely heavily modified). Even with a ko/kernel module, however, it's possible that the fob might not be able to get enough power from the tablet, itself; I'm not sure what the power draw is, but I have a few laying around; I could probably check that later on.
All of that said, while it may be possible to try to hack something up to work with OTG (for instance I know it CAN be done with external network devices in general (there have been successful drivers built for external Alfa wifi usb-based adapters, but that's wifi), my suspicion is that even if 1) and 2) here were fulfilled, there'd need to be support in other ways built into the ROM itself (I'm wondering if a bunch of the code for this could be pulled from the existent 605 ROM though, which is a consideration). I'm not sure if, for instance, even if JB/KK on the Galaxy Note 2014 were to be made to recognize it, you wouldn't have to disable other things to make it work; I know for the external USB wifi devices, a hack was needed to disable the onboard wifi within the device.
If I had the time or the money I'd certainly be willing to try to make something custom in general. That said, I'm wondering if linuxonandroid (search the forums, or check out linuxonandroid.org) might support it out of the box on the full system img's (given functionality, Kali's kernel probably has the best chance of any of the current available ones, but I don't really know; I'm grabbing the image later on tonight to see what happens if I try)...
In general, though, I suspect that even if this somehow partially works, there are going to be a lot of problems that only a real custom ROM would solve. Though frankly, I can't figure out why nobody has yet. Maybe, like me, people just don't have enough time, and the people who do have time and the skill don't really need a specialized ROM enough.
I'm still kicking myself in the butt for not getting the 3G version for development purposes, personally; hundreds of dollars more for what one could get in a USB fob for 20-30 bucks only sounded like a bad deal til I wanted the functionality; your best bet may be to get a crapper of an android phone for under a hundred dollars and just let it be a hotspot. It's what I finally just gave in to doing. The one upside is decent battery life; if the P600 could supply enough power for the USB 3G dongle to work, all USB-dongled devices, to the best of my knowledge, kill batteries faster than anything built-in would.
Good luck.
Yes... You're probabably right. Don't know.
And I could use an old phone to be a hotspot or something else like that, but it's not what I want :cyclops: Just one device for all will be better.
Kasimodo said:
Yes... You're probabably right. Don't know.
And I could use an old phone to be a hotspot or something else like that, but it's not what I want :cyclops: Just one device for all will be better.
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I'd really prefer the same thing, myself. I generally carry around a phone with my other stuff anyway and don't use it for much in the way of voice calls, so it's not too much of a burden. There's also hostapd in linux, or any of a number of mobile routers you can boot up in vbox, if you're carrying a laptop around at the same time; I really hate that our devices, and android in general, won't do 'ad-hoc' networks. I think that's one of my biggest gripes.
I suspect once Ubuntu touch is fully stable it'll be our best option; at a minimum I'm pretty sure I could easily crank out a driver for that. Android, I'm not sure. I'll let you know if I find the time to dig around with with droid though; I've been meaning to learn more about device driver support in Android anyway, now that it's finally pretty much mature.
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I have been thinking about buying a MiFi device recently, but last night whilst looking for a cable I came across my old and still perfectly functional HTC Touch Diamond. I realised that it has all the necessary ingredients to operate as a very effective MiFi and I did used to use it as a hotspot occasionally, but the battery life wasn't great and the set-up process rather a bit fiddly.
It got me thinking that what about if there was a custom ROM built with one thing in mind and one thing only, to operate as a mobile hotspot whilst trying to be as power efficient as possible and providing only simple start and stop controls and possibly auto sleeping if it doesn't sense WiFi traffic for a certain period of time.
Building a custom ROM is way beyond my own capabilities but I wondered if there were any cooks out there who fancied the challenge of re-purposing a great smartphone from something which does lots of different things into a specialist device?
Any takers?
Ralf
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I have been thinking about buying a MiFi device recently, but last night whilst looking for a cable I came across my old and still perfectly functional HTC Touch Diamond. I realised that it has all the necessary ingredients to operate as a very effective MiFi and I did used to use it as a hotspot occasionally, but the battery life wasn't great and the set-up process rather a bit fiddly.
It got me thinking that what about if there was a custom ROM built with one thing in mind and one thing only, to operate as a mobile hotspot whilst trying to be as power efficient as possible and providing only simple start and stop controls and possibly auto sleeping if it doesn't sense WiFi traffic for a certain period of time.
Building a custom ROM is way beyond my own capabilities but I wondered if there were any cooks out there who fancied the challenge of re-purposing a great smartphone from something which does lots of different things into a specialist device?
Any takers?
Ralf
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i wud be interested in cooking you such a rom, except i just visit the forum nowadays.
though i can give you an idea or any other cooks who might be interested in cooking for you.
-remove the cprog functionality. (this may have an affect on the radio capability)
-keep the phone functionality always disabled thru comm manager
-remove tf3d and all other programs which can be removed.
-keep wifi (connectivity) programs only
Its certainly do-able - but I have to say I dont really see the point of all that work to make something that is alot more limited and probably useless as a phone.
my suggestion would be to go and find a clean/minimal 6.5 ROM - from the many available on here - flash that - and you should have a unit that can be used as a spare phone if its needed, but has alot of space available for software install/memory. I would also advise going to find a piece of software on here called advanced config, which gives detailed options to configure the phone.
It might also be a good idea to research the radios for the Diamond - some are better than others regarding powersaving and the like - and transmission power.
Its entirely possible to have the battery removed and run the phone without a battery installed if there is a problem with the battery on your phone.
It seems a false economy to limit the abilities of a useful and versatile device just because your main usage will only be of one facet of it..
Just my $0.02
I live in the UK. In a couple of months I am going to be travelling in Australia, staying at various hostels. During the course of my travels I am going to have to access various online banking and credit card sites.
I'm assuming data charges are going to be high, even if I get a local simcard.
My choices are:
1. Use a computer at a hostel or internet cafe which I have no control over the security of, and could well have been compromised
2. Bring along a laptop to connect to the hostel internet connection (which I'm considering)
3. Work out how to reverse tether my phone to a computer in the hostel - providing me the security I want, without the added hassle of lugging a laptop and concern of losing/damaging/having it nicked.
I have no idea if there will be wifi, so I want to plan for the worst, and that is that I can only connect hard-wired to a computer.
I've searched for "USB reverse tether" and not turned up a solution, although plenty of people have asked the same question.
Is it possible, and if so, how?
Thanks.
The problem is, setting aside whatever you'd need to do on your phone, you'd also need to setup a driver on the computer to provide the tethering. That's probably not going to be an option.
Wifi is really going to be a lot more common than places with physical computers for you to use anyway. But if you're really worried about only having a physical connection, just bring along a wireless router. You can unplug the ethernet from the computer you're using, plug in your wifi router, and connect to it.
I'm pretty sure Sense has the features you're looking for.
-Nipqer
That's an idea I never thought of! A router is definitely a lot lighter and smaller than a laptop, even the little 12" one I have my eye on on eBay (damn, now I don't have an excuse to buy a new toy )
I guess ADB would be involved in trying to connect my phone to a computer, and you're right, it's doubtful I'd have any admin privileges on a hostel computer....
I also toyed with the thought of just bringing a portable Linux distro on a USB drive or CD to remove any Windows-borne threats. But I don't really know enough about that. I've tried Ubuntu on my laptop before, but gave up when I couldn't get the wireless adaptor to work. I never tried plugging it directly into the router though...
Hmmm, decisions decisions....!!!!
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I'm pretty sure Sense has the features you're looking for.
-Nipqer
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O rly? Do tell!
I don't know if I could saddle myself with Sense permanently, but that's what Nandroid is for
You could use a sense based rom (I'm using Virtuous Sense at the moment)
It has a USB Tethering option (Share phone's mobile network with PC)
You would probably need to install at least HTC Sync software on the computer you're going to use, to get the drivers. I had an installer come on my sdcard with the phone, so you might have it too.
-Nipqer
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You could use a sense based rom (I'm using Virtuous Sense at the moment)
It has a USB Tethering option (Share phone's mobile network with PC)
You would probably need to install at least HTC Sync software on the computer you're going to use, to get the drivers. I had an installer come on my sdcard with the phone, so you might have it too.
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Ah, no, this is the opposite of what I want to do. I need to share the computer's network with the phone.
Yes that is also an option in Sense, called Internet Pass-Through.
You'd still need the drivers for it though I think.
-Nipqer
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Yes that is also an option in Sense, called Internet Pass-Through.
You'd still need the drivers for it though I think.
-Nipqer
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Well, you learn something new every day - I never knew that existed!
TBH I pretty much got rid of Sense in favour of a CM rom as soon as I got the phone, same with my old Desire.
You're right though, looking at HTC's help pages indicates installing HTC Sync on the host computer. So I think what I wanted to do is pretty much a no-go in my situation.
I think maybe the "bring my own router" is looking like the best option.
Thanks for your replies, guys - much appreciated
You can probably get a local SIM for pretty cheap. Check out the data rates. If you only need it for some critical stuff here and there you'll be able to get a low amount of data on the SIM (or a Data-only SIM). If not, I'm sure you'll be able to duck into some coffee shops with free WiFi and hook up that way.
If you really need to get some things done I'd simply bring a laptop and hook up to the net in one of the hostels or some other place with WiFi. I think you're going through too much trouble here.
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You can probably get a local SIM for pretty cheap. Check out the data rates. If you only need it for some critical stuff here and there you'll be able to get a low amount of data on the SIM (or a Data-only SIM). If not, I'm sure you'll be able to duck into some coffee shops with free WiFi and hook up that way.
If you really need to get some things done I'd simply bring a laptop and hook up to the net in one of the hostels or some other place with WiFi. I think you're going through too much trouble here.
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You're probably right, but I'm just a worrier! I like having a back-up plan for when sh*t hits the fan. Maybe I should just take a chill pill and see what happens
The only reason I'm hesitant about relying on data via a SIM is that I know I'll be tempted to keep checking my email and Facebook/myYearbook all the time - and using up all my data and caning the battery. I'm hoping I can somehow abstain from all that and just use the damn thing as a PHONE (except when absolutely necessary!) :-D
Please pardon me if this has been asked before, or if it's really a very stupid question: Is it possible that simply rooting an otherwise stock HTC One M8, GPE, running Android 4.4.4, and installing TWRP and SuperSU, could cause bluetooth failures?
I ask because I heard that from a support tech whose company manufactures a bluetooth car kit I've installed, and the gadget in question intermittently fails to start up properly. I can pretty accurately predict the probability of a successful start up by knowing how long the vehicle's ignition key switch has been off. If it's been an hour or more the gadget will amost always start up properly, but if it's been less than ten minutes it'll almost always fail to start up properly. After it fails, I can just leave everything off for an hour and it'll work just fine, most of the time. It really doesn't seem logical to me that the phone could be implicated, given the strong correlation of off time to success probability, but the world is weird so I'm asking.
I've a bluetooth headset and a bluetooth OBD-II adapter that both work flawlessly with this phone.
Rooting the phone itself wouldn't affect bluetooth.
Changing to GPE 4.4.4 again shouldn't affect bluetooth in the manner you are talking about as it was made for that phone.
Bluetooth issues usually come up when problems exist in the ROM you are using.
I can't imagine the scenario you are talking about will have any issues.
Someone else might explain it better than me though.
Did the device work properly before you rooted?
As mentioned, simply rooting the device is unlikely to have cause such a problem. Bluetooth compatibility is complicated issue. The Bluetooth "standard" is not as standard as you would hope. Given the sheer number of possible device combinations, some combinations just don't play well together.
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Did the device work properly before you rooted?
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The device in question being the car kit? If so, I can only say that the phone predates the car kit so I don't know. If the device in question is the phone, it's working fine even now with two different bluetooth headsets and a bluetooth OBD-II (automotive on-board diagnostics) adapter.
Frankly, I believe that the support drone is a charity case of some kind, maybe the sales manager's recalcitrant kid or something like that. He's obviously just making things up as he goes along, but the one thing he's said that I can't easily disprove is the line about rooting the phone somehow annoying the aftermarket car kit device hiding behind my vehicle instrument panel. When it comes to phones I'm just a clueless luser and won't pretend otherwise, but I figure there are plenty hereabout who are perfectly clueful.
Thanks!
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The device in question being the car kit? If so, I can only say that the phone predates the car kit so I don't know. If the device in question is the phone, it's working fine even now with two different bluetooth headsets and a bluetooth OBD-II (automotive on-board diagnostics) adapter.
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I was thinking whether the phone worked with the car kit before you rooted the phone. But as you just stated, the phone predates the car kit, so no way of knowing that. Somewhat a rhetorical question, really. I seriously doubt rooting would have any effect.
Support techs are probably just programmed to say such things. Once a phone is rooted, they have no way of knowing what you did to it, and if it might have affected something on the phone. But root itself is just a permission change, it isn't going to affect the functionality in itself.
Don't know if the Bluetooth stack for Sense ROMs or AOSP ROMs (CM11, SlimKat, etc.) are any different from GPE. You will need to convert the partition layout to flash a Sense ROM (and AOSP ROMs?).
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Don't know if the Bluetooth stack for Sense ROMs or AOSP ROMs (CM11, SlimKat, etc.) are any different from GPE. You will need to convert the partition layout to flash a Sense ROM (and AOSP ROMs?).
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I'd rather remove the car kit and smash it with a sledgehammer than futz around with reflashing the phone with ROM images I don't otherwise need. The sledgehammer is already on standby. :laugh:
Having successfully rooted my Verizon LG G4 phone just last week via instructions found on this website (along with some added trial and error being that it wouldn't at first show the port information on Windows 8 end until I eventually tried installing the Verizon LG G4 software onto the computer), I am now trying to see if I can enable the FM Radio chip to work on the phone. I had downloaded the NextRadio app from the Google Store and got the screen indicating that it wasn't supported on my device due to the carrier's (Verizon's) restrictions. I also just read in here right now some info that suggests that perhaps the chip could be grounded to make it physically unusable? I work with electronics and wouldn't mind having to do something to the chip to UN-ground it if I knew what to do or look for specifically. In any case, with my phone being rooted, I was hoping that a program such as Spirit would be good enough to allow access to the chip, it apparently having its own driver for it. I checked the Spirit information page here and couldn't find my phone under either list for supported or unsupported devices. So I'm just not clear what the case would be. Any ideas on both this as well as whether I would have to alter the chip physically and in what manner would be greatly appreciated. I would rather know first about whether an app such as spirit will work on my specific rooted phone before buying the app. It's not important to have FM radio, but it would be nice if POSSIBLE. My expertise is in programming in 'C' for Windows so far, mainly using the full Cygwin C/C++ compiler environment download. Plus I used to work on Unix systems early on and loved them, so I will eventually be writing programs for this new Android smartphone of mine as well as also eventually installing a Linux or related Unix-based operating system onto my personal computer. So although I've been fairly good with computers for quite some time now, especially concerning programming them, I'm not yet an expert on Android systems, with my perhaps currently being at about the beginning-intermediate stage. And I used to solder some of my own circuits together as well as making ones up for myself via trial and error, although I'm not quite yet at the electrical engineering level. Thanks for any help in advance!...
I got this tablet exactly 3 years ago, and at the time it was the fastest tablet around. Today it is slow as molasses. It's not that I have a lot of apps installed, in fact I mostly just use it to watch (Vanced) Youtube and some IPTV.
Is there any chance of getting life back into it? It's running Android version 9, which is the latest they support for this device. I don't really care about newer versions, I don't find a lot of exciting new stuff is coming to Android anymore, but sometimes it feels like they purposely make the tablet slower, perhaps to encourage the purchase of the latest model, when it really shouldn't be necessary.
(Actually it also have some really idiotic "features" like although it has a fingerprint reader it keeps insisting I have to enter my pin to login "for my safety". My safety my butt, I only use it in my house and in any case don't have anything secret on it. It just annoys the hell out of me when a piece of hardware tell me how to use it.)
So is there a solution to make it fast again? What? Reset it back to an earlier stock version, or install another rom? It has pen support, but it's not something I use a lot so while a nice-to-have it's not a need-to-have.