I live in the UK. In a couple of months I am going to be travelling in Australia, staying at various hostels. During the course of my travels I am going to have to access various online banking and credit card sites.
I'm assuming data charges are going to be high, even if I get a local simcard.
My choices are:
1. Use a computer at a hostel or internet cafe which I have no control over the security of, and could well have been compromised
2. Bring along a laptop to connect to the hostel internet connection (which I'm considering)
3. Work out how to reverse tether my phone to a computer in the hostel - providing me the security I want, without the added hassle of lugging a laptop and concern of losing/damaging/having it nicked.
I have no idea if there will be wifi, so I want to plan for the worst, and that is that I can only connect hard-wired to a computer.
I've searched for "USB reverse tether" and not turned up a solution, although plenty of people have asked the same question.
Is it possible, and if so, how?
Thanks.
The problem is, setting aside whatever you'd need to do on your phone, you'd also need to setup a driver on the computer to provide the tethering. That's probably not going to be an option.
Wifi is really going to be a lot more common than places with physical computers for you to use anyway. But if you're really worried about only having a physical connection, just bring along a wireless router. You can unplug the ethernet from the computer you're using, plug in your wifi router, and connect to it.
I'm pretty sure Sense has the features you're looking for.
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That's an idea I never thought of! A router is definitely a lot lighter and smaller than a laptop, even the little 12" one I have my eye on on eBay (damn, now I don't have an excuse to buy a new toy )
I guess ADB would be involved in trying to connect my phone to a computer, and you're right, it's doubtful I'd have any admin privileges on a hostel computer....
I also toyed with the thought of just bringing a portable Linux distro on a USB drive or CD to remove any Windows-borne threats. But I don't really know enough about that. I've tried Ubuntu on my laptop before, but gave up when I couldn't get the wireless adaptor to work. I never tried plugging it directly into the router though...
Hmmm, decisions decisions....!!!!
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I'm pretty sure Sense has the features you're looking for.
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O rly? Do tell!
I don't know if I could saddle myself with Sense permanently, but that's what Nandroid is for
You could use a sense based rom (I'm using Virtuous Sense at the moment)
It has a USB Tethering option (Share phone's mobile network with PC)
You would probably need to install at least HTC Sync software on the computer you're going to use, to get the drivers. I had an installer come on my sdcard with the phone, so you might have it too.
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You could use a sense based rom (I'm using Virtuous Sense at the moment)
It has a USB Tethering option (Share phone's mobile network with PC)
You would probably need to install at least HTC Sync software on the computer you're going to use, to get the drivers. I had an installer come on my sdcard with the phone, so you might have it too.
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Ah, no, this is the opposite of what I want to do. I need to share the computer's network with the phone.
Yes that is also an option in Sense, called Internet Pass-Through.
You'd still need the drivers for it though I think.
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Yes that is also an option in Sense, called Internet Pass-Through.
You'd still need the drivers for it though I think.
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Well, you learn something new every day - I never knew that existed!
TBH I pretty much got rid of Sense in favour of a CM rom as soon as I got the phone, same with my old Desire.
You're right though, looking at HTC's help pages indicates installing HTC Sync on the host computer. So I think what I wanted to do is pretty much a no-go in my situation.
I think maybe the "bring my own router" is looking like the best option.
Thanks for your replies, guys - much appreciated
You can probably get a local SIM for pretty cheap. Check out the data rates. If you only need it for some critical stuff here and there you'll be able to get a low amount of data on the SIM (or a Data-only SIM). If not, I'm sure you'll be able to duck into some coffee shops with free WiFi and hook up that way.
If you really need to get some things done I'd simply bring a laptop and hook up to the net in one of the hostels or some other place with WiFi. I think you're going through too much trouble here.
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You can probably get a local SIM for pretty cheap. Check out the data rates. If you only need it for some critical stuff here and there you'll be able to get a low amount of data on the SIM (or a Data-only SIM). If not, I'm sure you'll be able to duck into some coffee shops with free WiFi and hook up that way.
If you really need to get some things done I'd simply bring a laptop and hook up to the net in one of the hostels or some other place with WiFi. I think you're going through too much trouble here.
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You're probably right, but I'm just a worrier! I like having a back-up plan for when sh*t hits the fan. Maybe I should just take a chill pill and see what happens
The only reason I'm hesitant about relying on data via a SIM is that I know I'll be tempted to keep checking my email and Facebook/myYearbook all the time - and using up all my data and caning the battery. I'm hoping I can somehow abstain from all that and just use the damn thing as a PHONE (except when absolutely necessary!) :-D
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I have a WIFI router up stairs, and a computer down stairs. I also own a laptop (This Computer). The router was for the laptop, then I brought home this computer from my other house.
I want to be able to connect to my phone to the WIFI router (I have done so) It is a secured network currently. But I also want to be able to connect the phone to my computer, using Internet Sharing, 'surf the web' on my computer via my phone without buying some kind of Data plan since I have WIFI.
Drilling holes through the Hard wood floor for an Ethernet cable are not an option
Note: I have searched the forum for several hours and played with GRSP settings myself with no success.
yeah ive tried looking the same a while back..i dont think anyone has developed this yet
WMWifiRouter can do that...
ive tried that..i think..anyone can verify it?
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WMWifiRouter can do that...
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I thought i just made the device a hot spot? I will try this method and post back my results. I will assume my Laptop will pick it up however.
There is a USB to WIFI mode, but I was unable to get this to work correctly.
You want Wi-Fi to USB mode
Yes, I assumed that much, I did notice both being there but was to lazy to point that out. I got it to work, but it is extremely slow because it has to go through the phone.
My alternative was making an ad hoc connection using a crossover cable, but I do not have a crossover cable and I do not have the tools to make one out of one of my four foot Ethernet cables.
Edit: I am curious. Is there another program or way of network mapping to get the same result, 'Wifi to USB', with out having to use the 'paid for program'.
Wmwifirouter
It appears WMWIFIRouter has a lock on the market for Smartphone users. There's another free program called ICS Control that can be used on PPCs.
WMWIFIRouter works great but the performance on my HTC Excalibur is terrible. I get about 25% of the bandwidth available to other WIFI enabled devices on the network.
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It appears WMWIFIRouter has a lock on the market for Smartphone users. There's another free program called ICS Control that can be used on PPCs.
WMWIFIRouter works great but the performance on my HTC Excalibur is terrible. I get about 25% of the bandwidth available to other WIFI enabled devices on the network.
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I know this post is 6 months old but I have a question.
I've tethered and internet shared with G1 & s620. I've only ever got 10Mbps vs. 100Mbps-comcast. It's the phone that restricts the speed, not the router or the way you have it hooked up, correct ???
I have used WMwifirouter for wifi on my laptop.
I used it on my vox.
The newest version is pretty good. It comes with a 21day or 30 day full function trial. But then you have to buy it.
4/5!
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I have used WMwifirouter for wifi on my laptop.
I used it on my vox.
The newest version is pretty good. It comes with a 21day or 30 day full function trial. But then you have to buy it.
4/5!
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What's your Mbps ? If it's not faster then 10Mbps then why pay for it when it can be had for free.
Actually googled it. not real expensive, and probably would buy if it increases speed.
Internet sharing still faster (seems to be) and easier than browsing on the phone. Nice to have when you need/want it.
crz6662 said:
What's your Mbps ? If it's not faster then 10Mbps then why pay for it when it can be had for free.
Actually googled it. not real expensive, and probably would buy if it increases speed.
Internet sharing still faster (seems to be) and easier than browsing on the phone. Nice to have when you need/want it.
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10Mbps is general connection speed of ur phone with ur PC through USB. It will never increase
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10Mbps is general connection speed of ur phone with ur PC through USB. It will never increase
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Yeah, kinda figured that out. So the question remains......Why pay for it ?
I have an EVO 4G and was starting to look at putting Ubuntu on it, but really have no idea as to what benefit this would be to me. I realize it is a computer OS, but do you still retain things like 4G and calling? I don't see much of a point in putting it on there if I don't have a plan in place for reverting back to "normal" ROMs or using my phone as an actual phone later. If anyone who has done this to theirs has any input on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Also, if I still retain my phone functionality, could someone tell me a bit about why it would be cool to do this?
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Anybody? Please?
Evobuntu - How to Install Ubuntu on HTC Evo 4G!
I also thought about doing this but found it pointless as your phone's already *nix, unless there's something specific to Ubuntu that you need to run on your phone.
I'm not really sure if Ubuntu would serve any benefit, but I've heard of someone with Ubuntu who gets about 3 days running the stock EVO battery, which kind of perked my interest. I don't need instructions, just want to know what benefits I might get from it.
I'm going to try this also on my Evo. I would say it's more for show than anything else. It's just cool that the Evo can handle it.
Well, you can crack wifi for one.
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Well, you can crack wifi for one.
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How, using aircrack/wireshark/etc? It already takes forever on a multiple core laptop seems to me the phone would be pointless. And don't you need drivers capable of packet injection? Seems far fetched to me.
I haven't really looked into it on the evo but it certainly does not take a long time with a laptop. My little netbook can crack wep in about 5 minutes. I'm not totally sure if the evo's wifi is capable of running in promiscuous mode but none of this sounds that far fetched to me.
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How, using aircrack/wireshark/etc? It already takes forever on a multiple core laptop seems to me the phone would be pointless. And don't you need drivers capable of packet injection? Seems far fetched to me.
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I haven't really looked into it on the evo but it certainly does not take a long time with a laptop. My little netbook can crack wep in about 5 minutes. I'm not totally sure if the evo's wifi is capable of running in promiscuous mode but none of this sounds that far fetched to me.
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I was referring to WPA, I cant find a WEP protected point anywhere near me if I try. I can see 17 access points around me atm, aside from 2 unprotected all are WPA.
I ran Ubuntu on my Evo for a few days to show off, and while I didn't attempt anything aircrack was one of the first thoughts/uses I had in mind. If it is capable of it that would be very cool. I just thought it unlikely that the Evos wifi is capable of injection in monitor mode, especially considering patched drivers are already necessary.
Not trying to argue that it wouldnt be badass tho
Edit: Just thought about it and WPA would be a hassle anyways as the rainbow table I use on my laptop is 30gb, considerably more than my 8gb card haha
Yeah, I wouldn't attempt wpa with an evo, lol. If you google it it does appear that other android devices are capable of injecting packets so it's possible the evo's wifi supports that as well. Where I live (nyc) there are a ton of open networks and an equally large number of wep protected networks.
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Does Sprint charge for usb tethering or just the hot spot? Tried calling and got the typical "What's tethering?" response. Also did a search here and didn't find any thing. My plan details are not telling either.
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If you root, you will get free USB or wireless tethering. I rooted both of our Evo's specifically to get that working. I loaded the Sprint Lovers rom and it's all working perfectly. I just spent a few days at the MIL's house and used the heck out of it.
There are other advantages to rooting, too, like a bigger selection of apps, custom roms, etc.
Well, that's why I ask. I need to be able to tether, but not wirelessly. On my old TP2, and clear back to my Apache for that matter, it was simply a registry hack and most of the roms had stealth built in, so I never worried about it. But, with the EVO, it seems that stealth has to be dome by root, and root is a right swine to achieve at this point, due to the recent OTA. Thus, if I can use the usb tether without charge, then I will until things settle down a bit.
However, I am not keen on paying Sprint another $30 a month on top of the extra charge for unlimited data, because that would be redundant. Not to mention the extra $10 a month that I have to pay which the guy at the store called the "Coolness Charge" So, when I figure it out I will root and put the screws to the Powers That Be. But, for now, I need to have a contingency plan because college classes are almost all internet submitted, and work won't let me use their wifi, and tends to get touchy when you try hacking it...
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Well, that's why I ask. I need to be able to tether, but not wirelessly. On my old TP2, and clear back to my Apache for that matter, it was simply a registry hack and most of the roms had stealth built in, so I never worried about it. But, with the EVO, it seems that stealth has to be dome by root, and root is a right swine to achieve at this point, due to the recent OTA. Thus, if I can use the usb tether without charge, then I will until things settle down a bit.
However, I am not keen on paying Sprint another $30 a month on top of the extra charge for unlimited data, because that would be redundant. Not to mention the extra $10 a month that I have to pay which the guy at the store called the "Coolness Charge" So, when I figure it out I will root and put the screws to the Powers That Be. But, for now, I need to have a contingency plan because college classes are almost all internet submitted, and work won't let me use their wifi, and tends to get touchy when you try hacking it...
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Just root using unrEVOked and then go to the wifi tether website and download the most current version of the application and you will be able to put out a strong G signal. Or use pda net for wired tethering.
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Just root using unrEVOked and then go to the wifi tether website and download the most current version of the application and you will be able to put out a strong G signal. Or use pda net for wired tethering.
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I have been reading that unrEVOked3 looses the 4G encryption keys, has that changed?
Sorry for the rant, but i was hoping this thing could be used on my desk to charge the Xoom and able to plug it into my USB port.
now I have to find a way to send files to it without removing it. BT does not work well and is kinda slow. Perhaps a wifi way, but still.. another little thing missed. I think I am going to stop buying moto accessories. the case that I got for it is such a pain.
/end rant
I'm also still waiting for the perfect accessories, i.e. a dock that has a port replicator on the back and a case with a built-in bluetooth keyboard.
As for the transfer I usually use Dropbox for smaller files. But not for movies for example.
I use SwiFTP, but still dumb that I have to go that route.. and its still not fast like it could be.
just dumb.. i mean, its a passthu.. i think i might get crazy and mod it.. but im not sure if it will work
i use the cifs kernel module with cifsmanager to mount my pc on my xoom to read/write files using windows sharing
works quite well, the speed is just as good as using usb
No needto apologize for the rant!
Engineers not knowing the full scoop, or something. I mean, it's really just silly not to have included the us.
As was mentioned in a prior post, dropbox is a great solution for files under 300megs.
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As was mentioned in a prior post, dropbox is a great solution for files under 300megs.
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not really.. more then a few megs is just a PITA!
I just installed an FTP client and can do it over wifi, no cloud stuff.
still would rather jsut have a USB plug.. what gets me is that it plugs into the USB port, just no output!
Hello,
I have a SM-P600 with Android 4.4.2 (Note 10.1 2014 Edition) and would like to use my 3G USB Key (Huawei E1752) ; This 3G stick works fine on my old TF101.
I've tried to use it with my SM-P600 but infortunetely, it doesn't seem to work, even with the "PPP Widget" apps. PPP Widget displays the famous "No driver found" issue. Josh, "PPP Widget" developer, told me ther eis no way for the moment to make his apps working because there is no loading module (.ko file).
So I wonder if I could use a SM-P601 ROM (SM-P600 with 3G) on my SM-P600 to get the right modules or flashinf P601 ROM on P600 means "brick"?
Otherwise is there another way to make a 3G USB key working on this tablet?
Best regards.
Unfortunately...
Part of the problem is that a custom kernel module would need to be loaded with root, via insmod, and this would need to be coded and constantly reinjected on boot. As far as I know most of these fobs do not make their drivers open-source, specifically, although I could see a possibility in modifying one of the generic drivers from a typical linux full install (likely heavily modified). Even with a ko/kernel module, however, it's possible that the fob might not be able to get enough power from the tablet, itself; I'm not sure what the power draw is, but I have a few laying around; I could probably check that later on.
All of that said, while it may be possible to try to hack something up to work with OTG (for instance I know it CAN be done with external network devices in general (there have been successful drivers built for external Alfa wifi usb-based adapters, but that's wifi), my suspicion is that even if 1) and 2) here were fulfilled, there'd need to be support in other ways built into the ROM itself (I'm wondering if a bunch of the code for this could be pulled from the existent 605 ROM though, which is a consideration). I'm not sure if, for instance, even if JB/KK on the Galaxy Note 2014 were to be made to recognize it, you wouldn't have to disable other things to make it work; I know for the external USB wifi devices, a hack was needed to disable the onboard wifi within the device.
If I had the time or the money I'd certainly be willing to try to make something custom in general. That said, I'm wondering if linuxonandroid (search the forums, or check out linuxonandroid.org) might support it out of the box on the full system img's (given functionality, Kali's kernel probably has the best chance of any of the current available ones, but I don't really know; I'm grabbing the image later on tonight to see what happens if I try)...
In general, though, I suspect that even if this somehow partially works, there are going to be a lot of problems that only a real custom ROM would solve. Though frankly, I can't figure out why nobody has yet. Maybe, like me, people just don't have enough time, and the people who do have time and the skill don't really need a specialized ROM enough.
I'm still kicking myself in the butt for not getting the 3G version for development purposes, personally; hundreds of dollars more for what one could get in a USB fob for 20-30 bucks only sounded like a bad deal til I wanted the functionality; your best bet may be to get a crapper of an android phone for under a hundred dollars and just let it be a hotspot. It's what I finally just gave in to doing. The one upside is decent battery life; if the P600 could supply enough power for the USB 3G dongle to work, all USB-dongled devices, to the best of my knowledge, kill batteries faster than anything built-in would.
Good luck.
Yes... You're probabably right. Don't know.
And I could use an old phone to be a hotspot or something else like that, but it's not what I want :cyclops: Just one device for all will be better.
Kasimodo said:
Yes... You're probabably right. Don't know.
And I could use an old phone to be a hotspot or something else like that, but it's not what I want :cyclops: Just one device for all will be better.
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I'd really prefer the same thing, myself. I generally carry around a phone with my other stuff anyway and don't use it for much in the way of voice calls, so it's not too much of a burden. There's also hostapd in linux, or any of a number of mobile routers you can boot up in vbox, if you're carrying a laptop around at the same time; I really hate that our devices, and android in general, won't do 'ad-hoc' networks. I think that's one of my biggest gripes.
I suspect once Ubuntu touch is fully stable it'll be our best option; at a minimum I'm pretty sure I could easily crank out a driver for that. Android, I'm not sure. I'll let you know if I find the time to dig around with with droid though; I've been meaning to learn more about device driver support in Android anyway, now that it's finally pretty much mature.