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So do you guys find it necessary to have a ram manager to free memory or no ?
No, ics have a good system to manage ram.
No. Creates more issues than it solves.
+1 for no. Watchdog has always been a must have for me, but it hasn't yet had to call out an app on my SGN.
No. Don't use automated tools to kill tasks and free up memory... in Android, free memory is wasted memory. You make your phone work harder when you interfere with its built-in memory management.
I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.
EP2008 said:
I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.
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Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
adrynalyne said:
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
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Funniest thing I read all day and its true
adrynalyne said:
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
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Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
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EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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Android does not operate like windows. Apps listed as "Running" are actually only loaded in ram and are not using cpu cycles or battery power. Android loads them in ram in order for them to start/be available more quickly to the user. If Android needs more ram for a task, it will remove any thing it needs to in order to free up more ram. You are wasting battery power and cpu cycles by "killing" those apps/service. If you think of ram as a memory stick you will realize that once something is loaded there, it doesn't take any power to keep it there.
Good luck
Good luck
jordanishere said:
You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
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System services should obviously not be messed with, but disabling autostarting services that you don't use is generally not a problem. It may take more power/time to start up apps that use those services (since they will have to be manually started), but if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
Intelligently tuning what services are allowed to autostart themselves is NOT the same as indiscriminately killing apps chasing after "free memory".
Personally, I wouldn't terminate services, but only modify which ones are allowed to automatically start up with the OS.
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if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
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Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
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EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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you basically proved what he said was true
I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.
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Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
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Eh, usually there's not much benefit to be had - but preventing a service from auto starting when you might not use its app for the entire time Android is booted won't cause any problems. You're essentially "freezing" the service while still allowing it to be used on demand .
WiredPirate said:
I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.
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I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN. Not necessarily a technical response, but just my experience.
Wow, the ignorance on XDA is staggering.
A RUNNING SERVICE is not the same as a cached app or background process.
Why the heck would anyone want 3 or 4 running services in the background when they don't need them running?
Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
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Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
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Less an Android flaw and more related to how developers wrote those apps. Otherwise I think we are in agreement though.
codesplice said:
I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN.
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why?
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Hello everyone,
By reading your helpful posts, I have rooted my Xplay, removed all the bloatwares, installed Link2SD and Autostarts.
This way I've been able to save lots of ram and my Play starts really quickly and has improved its performances.
However,
however,
however...
This bloody facebook won't stop launching by itself: task killer cannot handle it, Autostarts cannot manage to prevent it from starting by itself. Went into the settings of the app to remove all notifications, but still, it's always there, in the running programms, taking between 20 and 50mb of precious RAM.
I suffer randomly from lags in demanding games and I suspect that's because of Facebook working in background...
Do you have another solution than simply removing it? Indeed, Xperia play is a great gaming device indeed, but it's also a great smartphone, and I want to enjoy it with its full potential. Facebook is part of it and the official app offers more possibility than the non-official ones, usually limited to some basic options.
I just want it to stay closed until I decide to launch it and use it by myself... And not in my back...
Thanks for your help!
Uninstall Facebook.
Use site on mobile or on pc.
May sound "stupid", but its the best way
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To be honest the official facebook app for our phones is rubbish, Constant pointless updates what don't fix any bugs, eats up your phone memory plus ram,
Just remove it with X-plore if you have Root
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Or try autostarts it's an app that lets u disable apps...im testing it at the moment with facebook
Just download romtoolbox, go on autostart and disable it
Actually, I've disabled Facebook and its extensions with Autostarts, but still, it remains and continues launching automatically! So I've just frozen it with link2SD and installed Friendcaster instead. So annoying!
cippi21 said:
Or try autostarts it's an app that lets u disable apps...im testing it at the moment with facebook
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Does this app work with non rooted phones?
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Very freakin' simple. FREEZE IT.
I easily get near 200MB+ free RAM with FB frozen.
Use the mobile site via your browser instead. It's way better and faster anyway.
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Does this app work with non rooted phones?
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Nope
Was wondering if anyone has been through and solved Google services battery drain issue? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone child help me solve this and would gladly donate also, thanks
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Disable location services
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mike216 said:
Was wondering if anyone has been through and solved Google services battery drain issue? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone child help me solve this and would gladly donate also, thanks
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Disable location services. That's how I fixed mine, also go into Google maps and turn off everything relating to location.
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That's bud I will give it a shot
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mike216 said:
That's bud I will give it a shot
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No problem bro
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mike216 said:
Was wondering if anyone has been through and solved Google services battery drain issue? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone child help me solve this and would gladly donate also, thanks
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disable everything google.
*google location
*google now
*hangout (gtalk)
don't need google knowing where I am at all times.
PENKO956 said:
disable everything google.
*google location
*google now
*hangout (gtalk)
don't need google knowing where I am at all times.
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I agree. I hate Google trying to use my phone anytime that I'm not. In addition to shutting off google location and freezing GTalk and Google Now I also always make modifications to the Google Services Framework to really shut down Google's ability to use my phone when it's in my pocket.
The result is that I have almost no wakelocks or alarms caused by the Google Services. And I have battery life coming out the wazoo!
Here's how....
This is a good old fashioned dirty fix, as it breaks some things. So this is not for everyone!!!!
You MUST be rooted for this to work. The ROM you are using shouldn't matter.
GTalk and GNow (and maybe a few other things) will not work after doing this. They are casualties of the dirty fix. But if you're like me and never use GTalk or GNow this will help. I'd bet that contacts sync and calender sync are also broken by this, but I don't use those so I don't know.
I used System Tuner Pro (The older version with the Green Android icon. Not the new one with the Blue guy. Both are available free on Google Play. But the new one doesn't have the option you'll need) to disable some of the start up items in the Google Services Framework.
First I froze GTalk and Gnow (Google Search). And no, you can't just freeze those two apps without touching the GSF. The GSF will still create wakelocks when trying to activate them even if they are not there. So you have to modify the GSF as well.
So go to System Tuner and select "Start Ups".
Then pick the Google Services Framework.
Then uncheck the things on the list below. (Basicall anything with GTalk or Checkin in the title)
gtalkservice.diagnostits.gtalkdiagnostics
gtalkservice.connection autherrordialog
talk.talkprovider
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkein.eventlogservices$receiver
gtalkservice.diagnostics.gtalkdiagnosticsbroadcast reciever
gtalkservice.serviceautostarter
gtalkservices.datamessagereciever
gtalkservice.sendxmppreciever
gtalkservices.packageinstalledreciever
gtalkservice.xmppendpointreciever
checkin.evenlogservice
gtalkservice.service.stalkservice
gtalkservice.pushmessagingregistar
You can freeze the GSF entirely with 1 easy step and that will also kill the wakelocks. But the Play Store becomes another casualty if you do that. Disabling the events above will stop the Google Services wakelocks dead in their tracks, and allow the Play Store to continue working. (Though I haven't tried purchasing a paid app yet) If you want to go that route you can do it but you'd have to unfreeze the GSF everytime you wanted to update an app.
One little quirk with this is that when you turn on wifi or mobile data, the signal bars don't turn colors. They stay gray because you aren't connecting to the google servers anymore. (They normally change color to indicate that you are connected to the Google servers). After a day I stopped noticing they didn't change colors.
I highly recommend making a Nandroid backup before trying any of this. Once you go that, go nuts! You can't hurt too much when messing with the GSF because it will just shut down google elements. Worst case, you can always just reactivate everything, reboot, and it'll all work like it did before you messed with it.
And worst case, if you totally louse up your ROM, just restore the Nandroid and it'll all be back to normal in a flash. (Get it? In a 'flash'...haha I crack myself up)
This should have the same effects on any ROM as the GSF is the same for all ROMs on all devices as long as it's the same version.
great tip on the google framework startups. you learn every day! :good:
I really appreciate skipjacks! I did the system tuner thing. Do I need to freeze the 3 Google apps or I'd that good enough? Having trouble finding Google now in system apps using TTB
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mike216 said:
I really appreciate skipjacks! I did the system tuner thing. Do I need to freeze the 3 Google apps or I'd that good enough? Having trouble finding Google now in system apps using TTB
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i think if you go to application manager in settings and disable google now. its the same as freezing
edit: bbs is giving me partial wakelocks with "event log handoff" and "checkin handoff" after disabling it in framework services. do i have to reboot my phone after disabling services?
PENKO956 said:
i think if you go to application manager in settings and disable google now. its the same as freezing
edit: bbs is giving me partial wakelocks with "event log handoff" and "checkin handoff" after disabling it in framework services. do i have to reboot my phone after disabling services?
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Freeze Google now as well. The app itself likes to wake the device to look around.
And yes, a restart might be needed after disabling the event log and check in stuff. Also make sure they are actually disabled. Sometimes they restart right when you disable them. I know this works as I haven't had an event hand off wake in about 8 months. Including since I moved to the gs4 last week.
And remember, this is a dirty fix! This severely cripples Google Services. So if you use those services, this is not for you!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Skipjacks said:
Freeze Google now as well. The app itself likes to wake the device to look around.
And yes, a restart might be needed after disabling the event log and check in stuff. Also make sure they are actually disabled. Sometimes they restart right when you disable them. I know this works as I haven't had an event hand off wake in about 8 months. Including since I moved to the gs4 last week.
And remember, this is a dirty fix! This severely cripples Google Services. So if you use those services, this is not for you!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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google now is frozen + several reboots later still having partial handoff wakes. I enable the checkin and evenlog and rebooted. no more handoff wakes
Skipjacks said:
Freeze Google now as well. The app itself likes to wake the device to look around.
And yes, a restart might be needed after disabling the event log and check in stuff. Also make sure they are actually disabled. Sometimes they restart right when you disable them. I know this works as I haven't had an event hand off wake in about 8 months. Including since I moved to the gs4 last week.
And remember, this is a dirty fix! This severely cripples Google Services. So if you use those services, this is not for you!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Hey bro you did it check from 40 % and down. My battery drain calmed down! Couldn't I just remove Google search and hangouts? To achieve this also? Thanks so much bro! I'll donate to you if you set one up!
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Sorry in a hurry at work and forgot to post this pic showing my drain calming down
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mike216 said:
Sorry in a hurry at work and forgot to post this pic showing my drain calming down
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what app did you use to post pic? is it battery monitor pro?
mike216 said:
Hey bro you did it check from 40 % and down. My battery drain calmed down! Couldn't I just remove Google search and hangouts? To achieve this also? Thanks so much bro! I'll donate to you if you set one up!
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The battery level shouldn't be a factor. It might have just taken some time for the elements that were already is active memory to be cleared out.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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what app did you use to post pic? is it battery monitor pro?
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It's battery monitor widget by 3c
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If I were to remove Google hangouts and search could I achieve the same thing rather than checking all those options in system monitor? Thanks
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It's battery monitor widget by 3c
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i had to remove that app since it was giving me a lot of wakelocks. i guess since its constantly monitoring. but kool app!
Is strange, I removed Google + and hangouts and all see those options unchecked in my system tuner app. I assumed some of those options would have been gone after the deleted apps. How do i freeze Google now? I don't see any specific Google now app using titanium backup? Just want to be sure I'm good. Thanks slot guys you really helped me out a bunch. That donation is here for you if you set one up
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Just turn it off
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I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
Anderson2 said:
I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
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i disable google currents. don't even use it. or you can disable sync on currents.
I've seen this post in all of my devices forums...
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GTX420 said:
i disable google currents. don't even use it. or you can disable sync on currents.
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Thanks.
Just disabled it. I never use it anyway. Hope it doesn't break something else because it's a "system app".
Anderson2 said:
Thanks.
Just disabled it. I never use it anyway. Hope it doesn't break something else because it's a "system app".
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Disabling it also lowers the currents running to your CPU and GPU which can influence the system's stability. Hope your N7 will remain unaffected.
I have the same problem, only restarting fixed it for me. (maybe the new update will solve the issue) - and I always have currents disabled.
Pfeffernuss said:
Disabling it also lowers the currents running to your CPU and GPU which can influence the system's stability. Hope your N7 will remain unaffected.
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What are you talking about? Google Currents is a news app.
iPWNtehNOOB said:
What are you talking about? Google Currents is a news app.
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No kidding, now really!? :angel:
Anderson2 said:
I have had great battery time on my Nexus 7 2013 stock 4.3. Then today it ran down faster than usual and when I looked at the battery stats I saw Google services using up a ridiculous 74%! Never seen that before. I was on YouTube for a while. Would that be Google services?
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Try turning Google Now off. It can drain your battery and use up resources, especially if it's always running in the background.
Lionex1 said:
Try turning Google Now off. It can drain your battery and use up resources, especially if it's always running in the background.
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Found it. Please ignore.
(Can't find Google now listed among my apps. Is it the same as Google search? When When you say turn it off, do you mean disable?
Thanks.)
Let me make this clear, this thread is not about getting rid of Google services but google play services....
Being a GNEX user we have cherished so many updates from 4.0.1 to 4.4.4, courtesy of some gr8 devs and teams. Every update gave us the courage to give a sarcastic look at some of the flagships still lagging behing, but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it.It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services".
TBH we all got scroogled however we are not ashamed of it coz if a service is good then there is no point in not using it, but the experience we get across different devices creates a different opinion about the entire service and thats what happened with play services..
Taking google play services out of ur phone gives u hell a lot of advantage but the right alternatives. I decided to take it out of my GNEX and now i am one of the Happiest men on the planet who uses open source apps wherever possible.
I am about to list the alternatives i used and the experience i got....
I am a LiquidSmooth or Vanir user combined with the dirtyness of DirtyV kernel, F2FS, ART, xlouder patch...
Market : Since i dont flash Gapps no Play Store but FDROID is gr8, clean and simple. For apps unavailable at FDROID i use APKLEECHER
Browser : Of course Firefox and Lightning browser both available in FDROID. I use firefox for some impt. stuffs like mobile banking, etc and lightning browser for daily browsing that includes social networks fb, g+.
Music Player : Ur choice but i am a huge lover of Noozy. :angel:
Video Player :VLC available at FDROID :highfive:
Office Apps : Office Mobile, Microsoft does a gr8 job there.
Email Client : AOSP or K-9 mail available at FDROID
Proxy : Obviously Orbot by Guardian Projects available at FDROID
IM Clients : It was easy for me since most of my friends dont use Hangouts but whatsapp...pls for the sweet love of god please try Telegram available at FDROID. It got encryption too and open source. I am working on migrating my friends to Telegram. Also i do use ChatSecure available at FDROID for my gtalk and facebook accounts chat... :fingers-crossed:
Now comes the most impt part,
Cloud,Contacts and Cal Syncs : This is the hardest part u can come across, i had my solution OWNCLOUD
i have a raspberry pi and i turned it to an OWNCLOUD server, easiest way is to Check out ARKOS if u have a rpi or beaglebone black. With that OWNCLOUD i can instantly upload photos, videos just like g+ and also using an app DAVDROID at FDROID u can sync ur calender and contacts to ur Mobile. :good:
Maps : I use OsmAnd which is an ON/Offline maps app where u can download data to ur phone. Its pretty decent for finding directions but dont expect the sophistications of GMAPS, btw i m happy with OSMAND but at some situations i do use maps.google.com at firefox. :victory:
Youtube : Viral Lite downloaded with apkleecher.com...much better than Youtube. :cyclops:
Search : DuckDuckGo available at FDROID. Google Now will be one huge feature u got to sacrifice
Any free apps can be downloaded from apkleecher.com.
Btw regarding the updates : FDROID apps can be updated easily but others, yeah i know thats pain in the ass but thats a sacrifice you got to make to get rid of play services.
After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro..
THE DRAWBACKS : In the recently concluded GOOGLE I/O, google nailed the fragmentation issue by announcing that from now on all security patches will reach via Google play services which enables to secure even 2.3 devices.
However those updates will definitely added to the AOSP branch which our beloved DEVS will make use of
please comment if u have any ques and try getting rid of play services and have fun......
Thanks for sharing this info. I'm going to follow your instructions. I'd like to see a "new system" by replacing all the pieces
pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
May be I can answer a few ques
If u have experienced KitKat on gnex then u would probably know about "those updates" "fluidity"
I m running Liquid smooth 3.1 and
WiFi always on and ocassional 3g (10 mins),NFC off, BT when needed, Location when needed, Sync always on, little phone calls like 15 mins, brightness I'll adjust manually always, I don't play games at all but I browse hell a lot, music 30mins, time between charges 10h and sot 2hrs max,
After those things now time between full charges even last a day and sot is 3hr
Edgarngg said:
Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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After flashing a rom don't flash gapps, install fdroid and u r good to go.....BTW I m talking only about KitKat ROMs...
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pvkiniyan95 said:
isajoo said:
TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
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Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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latenightchameleon said:
I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
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There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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Post edited, check it, hope I answered ur ques
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pvkiniyan95 said:
There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
Anything is better than gapps
latenightchameleon said:
Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
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Yeah u could, If u are nightly flasher u r gud to go
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@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
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@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
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honestly i dont play games at all in my gnex besides afaik Games dont depend upon google play services completely, they are just optional to store scores on cloud, i think games might work. Regarding owncloud, yes u could if u have a domain to, head over to owncloud.org and they have a good guide over there....:fingers-crossed:
Thanks for this!
Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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Edgarngg said:
Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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pvkiniyan95 said:
I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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Edgarngg said:
In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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I am mostly trying to move to open source apps, also u can use the apps without updating as long as we want coz they will be stable and work well...nowadays most of the apps notify u when there is an update, spend a few mins in the weekend to update them...technically I felt 1mobile is just another Google play service coz they all work with Google analytics ads etc etc etc....choice is urs
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I didn't know there were that many people who didn't like running gapps. I don't really have any issue using gapps and google play, but it's nice to know there are other options out there. Thanks for sharing this.
Is not that we don't like them. Is what they do to our battery what we don't like.
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I haven't been able to sync my contacts to owncloud. Can you point me to a good tutorial on how to do that. Also jabber account. It's all new to me
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