I have a T-Mobile HTC One M8 which is bootloader unlocked and rooted with custom recovery. I also have a custom ROM (Viper One) in there. However I couldn't achieve S-OFF (tough luck! ). So my questions is, can I use the phone with other GSM carriers ? I want to start using AT&T service with this phone. Is it possible to use it without S-OFFing ?
Thanks!
abhishekk89 said:
I have a T-Mobile HTC One M8 which is bootloader unlocked and rooted with custom recovery. I also have a custom ROM (Viper One) in there. However I couldn't achieve S-OFF (tough luck! ). So my questions is, can I use the phone with other GSM carriers ? I want to start using AT&T service with this phone. Is it possible to use it without S-OFFing ?
Thanks!
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I believe so yes, can't recall seeing anything about unlocking it with S-ON. Have you tried the SunShine method to gain S-OFF?
[Android][HTC S-OFF] SunShine for modern HTC devices
Sure it's $25 but going on most responses it seems well worth the few pennies to gain that extra "freedom". Something to consider perhaps...
BerndM14 said:
I believe so yes, can't recall seeing anything about unlocking it with S-ON. Have you tried the SunShine method to gain S-OFF?
[Android][HTC S-OFF] SunShine for modern HTC devices
Sure it's $25 but going on most responses it seems well worth the few pennies to gain that extra "freedom". Something to consider perhaps...
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Thanks BerndM! Appreciate the response.
Turns out I need S-Off to use other carriers. Will probably buy Sunshine's application for S-Off
You only need S-OFF if your phone is SIM-locked but you can use a pay service to remove the SIM-lock. Unless you have a CDMA phone and are trying to use a GSM SIM in it, in which case probably to stop now...
EddyOS said:
You only need S-OFF if your phone is SIM-locked but you can use a pay service to remove the SIM-lock. Unless you have a CDMA phone and are trying to use a GSM SIM in it, in which case probably to stop now...
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Isn't it better to pay $25 to our devs and get S-OFF instead of paying some corporate guys just to get my SIM lock removed ? Just my thought
Depends if you have to pay or not...
In the UK, not all operators charge to SIM-unlock (that's if the phone even is to begin with, most don't bother these days)
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im contemplating buying the at&t m8 tuesday on launch day but im worried since i know it will come locked down tight. rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
if not ill wait for root to buy.
Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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mike86325 said:
Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
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Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
EtherealRemnant said:
I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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Original HTC One bootloader unlock was available on day 1 then vanished. I think there are other exploits. I have unlocked the bootloader of almost every Android device I've ever owned (except my Nexus 7 FHD). I *dont* intend on doing that with my M8 unless and until the promised support and updates doesn't materialize. In the best of all possible worlds, someone will come up with a temporary root method so I can at least run Titanium backup.
Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
matt95 said:
Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
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i can confirm s-on
fix-this! said:
rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
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Can I get a link to the rumor?
jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Well mine is saying s-on
jaythenut said:
Well mine is saying s-on
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
fil676 said:
Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
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S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
meest said:
S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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I've never tried Firewater stuff but I would wait to do that, that method hasn't even been tested on the new one...
skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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HBOOT: 3.16.0.0000
I tried the temp-root method but it failed running temp-root so I didn't bother executing the firewater command:
error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables.
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i can confirm s-on
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Alright bud
Did you swap out your N3 for this? - I pick mine up in the morning. Hoping it'll be a a quality device, miss my original One
Phone pay off, will tmobile provide code for S-OFF?
G1_enthusiast said:
Phone pay off, will tmobile provide code for S-OFF?
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Don't you mean network unlock? Never heard of carrier giving a S-OFF code
dragon546 said:
Don't you mean network unlock? Never heard of carrier giving a S-OFF code
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ah **** i was hoping its the same thing....
G1_enthusiast said:
ah **** i was hoping its the same thing....
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You might want to check out what S-Off is before attempting it. Also if are TMOUK then they charge to unlock normally 20 pounds sterling
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You might want to check out what S-Off is before attempting it. Also if are TMOUK then they charge to unlock normally 20 pounds sterling
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I know what S-OFF is I done it on my other HTC one, I bought another one but it was updated to 1.57. I was praying that the unlock code can actually turn off S-OFF too
If you knew what s-off was why would you even think it had anything to do with network unlock which is something entirely different? :silly:
They would be really nice if they did offer factory s-off using a HTC Java card.
Would make life much easier, since you own the device you should be able to do anything you damn please.
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If you knew what s-off was why would you even think it had anything to do with network unlock which is something entirely different? :silly:
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S-OFF is security off, turning everything off including network lock. Its not entirely different.
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S-OFF is security off, turning everything off including network lock. Its not entirely different.
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I'm afraid not my friend.
Network lock is something that is universal to almost all manufacturers and is implemented by a particular carrier.
S-off or indeed S-on is unique to HTC devices. S-off does not guarantee network unlock.
Also S-off is not required to SIM unlock.
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I'm afraid not my friend.
Network lock is something that is universal to almost all manufacturers and is implemented by a particular carrier.
S-off or indeed S-on is unique to HTC devices. S-off does not guarantee network unlock.
Also S-off is not required to SIM unlock.
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I'm pretty sure it does. I have two HTC one M8 and one of them is S-OFF, it works with another GSM carrier.
If you change your cid to super cid then the phone will be able to be used with any carrier. This is not the same as network unlock, the lock will reactivate if you change your cid back.
To SIM unlock permanently you need to follow this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708567
I am switching to T-Mobile and I was wondering if you still have to pay for soff and or would it be possible to get soff the other way I think firewater?
By the way i am getting another m8
25$
Sandman9043 said:
I am switching to T-Mobile and I was wondering if you still have to pay for soff and or would it be possible to get soff the other way I think firewater?
By the way i am getting another m8
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Try firewater first and if that doesn't work then u have to use sunshine.
If you don't get the whelp message on firewater keep trying and it should work.
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Try firewater first and if that doesn't work then u have to use sunshine.
If you don't get the whelp message on firewater keep trying and it should work.
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What is the determining factors for firewater to work? I have givin up on that and I'm not about to pay 25. S off is something I can live without.
chuck24 said:
What is the determining factors for firewater to work? I have givin up on that and I'm not about to pay 25. S off is something I can live without.
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Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725099
It will give u more info.
I know on the m7 it didn't work on phones with emmc 9001 serial. I have got two T-Mobile HTC m8s and firewater worked on both with no problems.
Just flash viper or arhd and try they both have an unsecured boot.img.
And go to the built in superuser app and change settings to apps and adb then try.
If your just gonna flash roms and aren't into development like some then you don't need s-off.
There's a lot of people that don't understand s-off and brick there phones by flashing something that was not for their phone.
So be careful of what you flash if u s-off.
On my m8 my emmc serial begins with 1501.
On play store there's an app called emmc brick bug checker. Use it and it will show you your emmc
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Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725099
It will give u more info.
I know on the m7 it didn't work on phones with emmc 9001 serial. I have got two T-Mobile HTC m8s and firewater worked on both with no problems.
Just flash viper or arhd and try they both have an unsecured boot.img.
And go to the built in superuser app and change settings to apps and adb then try.
If your just gonna flash roms and aren't into development like some then you don't need s-off.
There's a lot of people that don't understand s-off and brick there phones by flashing something that was not for their phone.
So be careful of what you flash if u s-off.
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Thank you for sharing the info... This is my first HTC. Long term Samsung user at first.
Thanks everyone for the information i had the first round of the M8 from Sprint i didn't have to worry about anything but when I get it i try firewater
Hello XDA.
Here's the thing. I have an HTC One M8 from AT&T which I want to unlock, but also I wanna S-OFF it because I like to play (safely) with it making it a developer edition or even a GPE. The thing is I don't wanna spend much money, so it's unlocking (~15 USD) or S-OFF it (25 USD) and then be able to simunlock it for free with two options so far:
Super CID
Universal SIM unlock
I wanna think the best idea is to purchase Sunshine, S-OFF my phone and then try one of those two options. I just need some feedback from someone who has tried them to ensure they're 100% effective and I wont need to end to purchase an unlock code.
Anyway, thanks in advance and best regards.
Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).
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Nothing is ever a sure thing. And recent hboots have patched the SIM unlock exploit, as well as sunshine s-off. What hboot number?
I'm not personally SIM unlocked. But it seems from the SIM unlock thread, results were fairly positive, at least on older hboot numbers. Again, nothing is every certain; and that goes for the paid methods as well (although most services typically won't charge unless you can unlock).
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Thanks for answer.
My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
Best regards.
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My HBOOT version is 3.16.0.0000
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That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.
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That's the original (phone's release) hboot version. So I'd say that sunshine s-off should work; and chances of a successful SIM unlock are very good.
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Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.
alainalemany said:
Thank you so much. I'll tell you how it goes.
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You're quite welcome; and good luck!
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You're quite welcome; and good luck!
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I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.
alainalemany said:
I'd like to thank you again @redpoint73 everything worked just as planned and now I have my HTC unlocked and S-OFFed.
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Great to hear. Again, you're very welcome.
Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?
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Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?
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Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.
So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/
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So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/
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Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?
dottat said:
Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?
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Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
iLeoable said:
Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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On the vzw m9 sunshine support will come when they figure out how to enable root and flip the s flag off all in one shot.
Your other alternative is to buy the phone and send it to a user who has a Java card. That process involves putting a special card in your SD slot and running see commands. You will end up with s-off and bootloader unlocked with that.
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Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.
bakemcbride21 said:
With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.
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Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.
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Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.
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+1 for @bschram - Sorted my Verizon M9 a week ago --- Pre-root backup, S-off, install TWRP, root, and unlock bootloader.
Ready for me to install custom Rom
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Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.
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Full service crew!
Only problem you will have afterwards is finding a Verizon CM12 ROM. Because as of now, this is what we have to work with...nothing. And from what I've heard, cm is no longer unifying devices. All I'm saying is its gonna be a bit of a road. However, if you don't mind waiting and running a sense based custom ROM for a while, then get it and have @dottat unlock everything for ya! I'm actually about to send him mine!
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.
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I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.
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highly doubt that...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/17/5911917/ps3-hacker-geohotz-hired-by-google