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[Q] Time to update ROM with Knox bit tripped, how to avoid a brick

So back in December while updating to the newest version of MOAR, I made this mistake of taking the OTA update and getting Knox. I managed not to brick my phone at the time, but ended up with the Knox bit tripped and a lot of concern that further experimenting would result in a dead phone and a forced replacement. Anyway, fast forward to now and its time to update again (some apps are starting to get unstable because they have been updated but my ROM hasn't), but I want to make sure I don't risk bricking the phone thanks to Knox.
If I remember correctly, the fact that I'd contracted Knox and tripped the bit already meant that I was stuck with the same bootloader, but I could update everything else. Is this still the case, or has someone figured a way around the issue in the past six months so that I can get rid of Knox once and for all? Also, since I haven't looked at any of this in the last 7 months, what exactly would the process be to update to the newest version of MOAR without updating the bootloader (if that's still what needs to happen)?
Thanks

You can downgrade everything but bootloader and modem. You can upgrade everything.
Flashing custom ROMs don't include bootloaders or modems, so have no fear. Only Odining the stock ROM, taking an OTA, or specifically finding a way to flash those upgrade them.
Just flash the latest MOAR or whatever other ROM you want to, as always.
The only exception to this is to flash ND8 (TouchWiz 4.4.2) based ROMs you need to have taken the ND8 OTA or Odined the stock ND8 tar first, otherwise you may brick your phone.
You're welcome!
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You can downgrade everything but bootloader and modem. You can upgrade everything.
Flashing custom ROMs don't include bootloaders or modems, so have no fear. Only Odining the stock ROM, taking an OTA, or specifically finding a way to flash those upgrade them.
Just flash the latest MOAR or whatever other ROM you want to, as always.
The only exception to this is to flash ND8 (TouchWiz 4.4.2) based ROMs you need to have taken the ND8 OTA or Odined the stock ND8 tar first, otherwise you may brick your phone.
You're welcome!
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Ok, with all of that said, the ND8 is an upgrade, so if I Odin it in, I should still be fine? I really hate that this is even an issue... I am thinking of jumping ship from the company's products when I upgrade next specifically as a result of this

treblesum81 said:
Ok, with all of that said, the ND8 is an upgrade, so if I Odin it in, I should still be fine? I really hate that this is even an issue... I am thinking of jumping ship from the company's products when I upgrade next specifically as a result of this
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Yes, you can upgrade everything.
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treblesum81 said:
Ok, with all of that said, the ND8 is an upgrade, so if I Odin it in, I should still be fine? I really hate that this is even an issue... I am thinking of jumping ship from the company's products when I upgrade next specifically as a result of this
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The only valid arguments against Knox (IMHO) are:
1. Once the warranty counter is tripped there is no way to reset it.
2. You do not have the ability to downgrade modems/bootloaders.
Myself, rode warrior and many others have had no issues directly related to Knox....
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g_money said:
The only valid arguments against Knox (IMHO) are:
1. Once the warranty counter is tripped there is no way to reset it.
2. You do not have the ability to downgrade modems/bootloaders.
Myself, rode warrior and many others have had no issues directly related to Knox....
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The problem is the way in which those issues manifested. Samsung essentially slipped Knox into the update almost without warning and with virtually no documentation. As a result many of those who were affected found out about it as a result of a bricked phone which was now permanently marked as ineligible for warranty work. Had Samsung made it clear what Knox was capable of and provided proper documentation of its function then I don't think many people would have had any problems with it.
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Root 4.4.2 official rom beside CF-Auto-Root.

Hi all.
I was trying to root my stock 4.4.2 rom on Sprint sph-l710 phone with CF-Auto-Root with Odin. Root Check indicate no root propertly After device reboot and Odin indicated Pass. And SuperSu show "Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped every when try to run superSu.
Are there anyway root stock 4.4.2 rom beside CF-Auto-Root?
May a flash able rooted stock 4.4.2 rom??

Tekone said:
Hi all.
I was trying to root my stock 4.4.2 rom on Sprint sph-l710 phone with CF-Auto-Root with Odin. Root Check indicate no root propertly After device reboot and Odin indicated Pass. And SuperSu show "Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped every when try to run superSu.
Are there anyway root stock 4.4.2 rom beside CF-Auto-Root?
May a flash able rooted stock 4.4.2 rom??
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I'm in the same boat, I've been trying all day to get this to work. None of the Jelly Bean guides seem to work on 4.4.2. I just tried flashing the SuperSu via the recovery with no luck. Hope someone helps out, my Super keeps giving that message.

I install Philz recovery and root from from there and install supersu work better then cf auto root.
Is any downside by rooting this way?

Tekone said:
I install Philz recovery and root from from there and install supersu work better then cf auto root.
Is any downside by rooting this way?
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No.
And there are at least 4-5 rooted TouchWiz 4.4.2 stock-based ROMs including @CNexus' completely stock but rooted in the development (non-original) section.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No.
And there are at least 4-5 rooted TouchWiz 4.4.2 stock-based ROMs including @CNexus' completely stock but rooted in the development (non-original) section.
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Thanks for reply..
Since i have latest Philz recovery installed and do i have to worry about Radio, Bootloader, Traigle, Modem if I try to install custom rom etc?? I'm going to this S3 with Freedompop

Tekone said:
Thanks for reply..
Since i have latest Philz recovery installed and do i have to worry about Radio, Bootloader, Traigle, Modem if I try to install custom rom etc?? I'm going to this S3 with Freedompop
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You're welcome. Nope, nothing to worry about since you were already on stock 4.4.2 and using latest Philz. Just flash any of the custom or completely stock (but rooted) ROMs you want.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome. Nope, nothing to worry about since you were already on stock 4.4.2 and using latest Philz. Just flash any of the custom or completely stock (but rooted) ROMs you want.
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Thanks again bro.
Just checked my bootloader is ND8.. From now no.. i can flash any custom rom, hacking and do many thing now. thanks.

Network Unavailable ND8

Hi all, I flashed the stock tar via ODIN then Philz recovery, everything loads and installs fine it seems. My wifi works as well as everything else however, I have not had any cell phone service at all. when I go to setting->self activate it says network unavailable. I've tried to do a reset and all to get the phone to turn on the network but I am not sure what it blocking my phone from gaining any type of network access. I'm not sure where to go from here, the Stock ROM unrooted as well as Custom ROMs have provided the same no service results. I hope someone is able to help me I know I didn't provide a lot of information but I've followed all of the ND8 and Restore guides that I could find down to every last detail and cannot seem to get this to work, After 5 days of trying I feel it is worth asking you all seperately because any searchs have only shown users with both wifi and network connectivity problems.
Thank you all so much!
Kennan Miller

Sprint, Boost or Virgin Mobile? Did you check the MD5 hash of the zip or tar? Did you try the Odin multiple times and without changing anything, not even custom recovery? By reset you mean ##72786# from the stock dialer? After the reset did you try update profile and PRL? Try the NDC tar instead of ND8, especially if you're on Boost or Virgin Mobile.
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I havent tried the reset with the numbers, i kept looking for the code and could not find the proper one for my carrier, but that is the sprint one. I have a Sprint phone, I'll do some searching on what the NDC is, I have not heard of that before.
Edit: yes, I checked the md5 before anything i flashes through odin or recovery etc. . i've done the update for PRL and profile
Thank you for the response! Kennan

kcmiller82 said:
I havent tried the reset with the numbers, i kept looking for the code and could not find the proper one for my carrier, but that is the sprint one. I have a Sprint phone, I'll do some searching on what the NDC is, I have not heard of that before.
Edit: yes, I checked the md5 before anything i flashes through odin or recovery etc. . i've done the update for PRL and profile
Thank you for the response! Kennan
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You're welcome! Try the data reset first. After that it's normal to do an update PRL and Profile. NDC is TouchWiz 4.4.2 for Boost and Virgin Mobile, ND8 is the same for Sprint, which should be what you Odined.
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Hey! I'm sorry it took so long to respond back , I don't live in an area where I have service I had to drive into town so I could test it out! The code worked and I received service! however, I did not have any data/3g . I'm fairly confident when I have been to that town previously I had 3G, Does anyone have recommendations for that issue if it doesn't come back? sorry for seeming so needy, I would just like a few things to possibly try because unfortunately I have to make a trip into town everytime I need to see if I have service
Thank you all so much!!
Kennan

You didn't mention if you updated your PRL and Profile after the data reset. Try that if you didn't.
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[Q] Can't receive sms after flashing stock

Hello everyone,
So ill start out telling you my long journey through the numerous roms I've flashed.
First flashed cm11 4.4.2, then to 4.4.3. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Next flashed liquid smooth 4.4.4, nothing else was wrong until I noticed my calls took
a while to connect. Then I got multiple and duplicate sms messages all at once that were usually late.
So I tried to restore my first cm11 backup, then I started to lose all texting ability. So I tried to revert back to
stock and unroot. Success
Now everything works fine (calls, data, sending sms etc.) But I still can't receive any text messages.
I am running the stock 4.4.2 Rom from Seminole with no root access. I've contacted sprint and gone
through all of those hoops to no avail. Is there a way to fix this? I would greatly appreciate any help..
Thanks

derder764 said:
Hello everyone,
So ill start out telling you my long journey through the numerous roms I've flashed.
First flashed cm11 4.4.2, then to 4.4.3. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Next flashed liquid smooth 4.4.4, nothing else was wrong until I noticed my calls took
a while to connect. Then I got multiple and duplicate sms messages all at once that were usually late.
So I tried to restore my first cm11 backup, then I started to lose all texting ability. So I tried to revert back to
stock and unroot. Success
Now everything works fine (calls, data, sending sms etc.) But I still can't receive any text messages.
I am running the stock 4.4.2 Rom from Seminole with no root access. I've contacted sprint and gone
through all of those hoops to no avail. Is there a way to fix this? I would greatly appreciate any help..
Thanks
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did you flash the ND8 stock tar via Odin??

6th_Hokage said:
did you flash the ND8 stock tar via Odin??
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I flashed the stick 4.4.2 from the Sam mobile site for the sph-l710. Ill see
how the nd 8 does.

6th_Hokage said:
did you flash the ND8 stock tar via Odin??
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I flashed nd8 and the problem still persists. The thing is when I swapped phones with somone else on my plan I could text and I was able to get rel lies. Then I put my number back on the galaxy s3 and AGAIN no replies..
Any idea?

I don't know if this would help this particular problem, but did you try on a stock ROM in the stock dialer:
##72786#
Then when it finishes, update PRL and Profile from Settings / More /About Device
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know if this would help this particular problem, but did you try on a stock ROM in the stock dialer:
##72786#
Then when it finishes, update PRL and Profile from Settings / More /About Device
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Thanks, I did that a couple times with sprint. Each time I ask for help they transfer me to another tech...
Ill try again though. Is it possible that flashing one of my previous roms caused the Id on my phone to change?

[Q] Help rootin my spring sgs3 4.4.2

I went through all these steps with no success at rooting:
1. Turned on developer mode.
2. enabled usb debugging
3. booted into download mode (Vol down/home/power).
4. started odin 3.0.7
5. left autoreboot and reset time checked.
6. pressed "bin" and selected the "CF-Auto-Root-d2spr-d2spr-sphl710.tar.md5" file
7. clicked start and let it reboot.
I've also tried unchecking autoreboot and after odin was finished, pulled out the battery and rebooted manually. Why can I not get root access? Please help!

CF-AutoRoot has only worked on TouchWiz 4.4.2 for a few people. Most of us either flash the latest SuperSU.zip downloaded directly from Chainfire's website or use Philz Touch Recovery's re-root option in the Advanced menu I think.
Personally, after CF-AutoRoot failed for me I had to re-Odin either (I forget which) the stock ROM and Philz, or just Philz.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
CF-AutoRoot has only worked on TouchWiz 4.4.2 for a few people. Most of us either flash the latest SuperSU.zip downloaded directly from Chainfire's website or use Philz Touch Recovery's re-root option in the Advanced menu I think.
Personally, after CF-AutoRoot failed for me I had to re-Odin either (I forget which) the stock ROM and Philz, or just Philz.
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Which md5 and zip did you use? I used philz_touch_6.41.4-i9500.zip and that didn't get me root. I was able to get the md5 to work but after flashing the zip, still no root access.

dyetube said:
Which md5 and zip did you use? I used philz_touch_6.41.4-i9500.zip and that didn't get me root. I was able to get the md5 to work but after flashing the zip, still no root access.
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the latest Philz is 6.48.4 and i used the .Tar.Md5 Odin flashable and you can always try using Towel root

Hell, just flash the already rooted but completely stock either Odexed or DeOdexed stock ND8 ROM put up by Cnexus in development (non-original).
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6th_Hokage said:
the latest Philz is 6.48.4 and i used the .Tar.Md5 Odin flashable and you can always try using Towel root
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I tried 6.48.4 as well a towelroot with no success. This is really frustrating as I need to tehter my laptop so I can have better internet access.

dyetube said:
I tried 6.48.4 as well a towelroot with no success. This is really frustrating as I need to tehter my laptop so I can have better internet access.
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Just flash an already rooted custom ROM like what's in my signature, or if you want completely stock but rooted, you can find Cnexus' Odexed (like original stock is) and Deodexed (more easily modded/themable) copies of ND8 in the development (non-original) section.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hell, just flash the already rooted but completely stock either Odexed or DeOdexed stock ND8 ROM put up by Cnexus in development (non-original).
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Just flash an already rooted custom ROM like what's in my signature, or if you want completely stock but rooted, you can find Cnexus' Odexed (like original stock is) and Deodexed (more easily modded/themable) copies of ND8 in the development (non-original) section.
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I'm just looking to be able to tether my phone for internet access to my laptop. My understanding is that root will give me this access (on sprint obviously). Not sure I want to do a custom rom as I don't really fool with y phone in that way much. Gonna try the deodexed and see how well that works.

Can I flash the rooted deodexed with philz recovery? I just tried it and my phone still doesn't show as rooted. I went into recovery and selected install zip/choose zip from /sdcard and selected the deodexed zip. What gives?

I think the de-odexed worked cause now I have root access. Thanks for all the help!

You're welcome!
Did you flash the Deodexed tethering mod (also in the same section as the rooted stock you used)? It's great having unlimited free tethering.
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