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Hey guys!
I'm a bit confused about a couple of things. Firstly is background data. I'd I turn it off, what happens? If I turn it on, what happens then? Lets say for example I've set my facebook n weather update to be once every 3 hours. If I turn off background data, will that disturb the updates? ie. Will it not update every 3 hours?
Another question is if I set my 3g connection to be off, will the phone automatically turn it on every 3 hours to update my facebook n weather?
Thanks guys
If you switch of background data, the majority of apps won't sync. Also if you switch 3g off, I assume you mean data (there is edge and gprs) then you won't have net. Also it will not switch it on unless you do, so no sending.
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i've this strange problem:
sometimes (about 50%) i receive delayed notifications on my phone. they are delayed from 5 to 15 minutes maximun. this notifications problem is only for facebook and whazzup, not for mails. if the screen is off and the note is in deep sleep since about 40 minutes/1 hour or more i got this problem.
i red a lot of articles about deep sleep, fast dormancy, tryed a lot of different configurations, tryed different carriers, mod roms, tested with BBS, etc etc but actually i cannot solve it. it's not a connection problem 'cause i receive the mails push. i also called the samsung customers service and they told me it's a timer inside the phone that after "some time" turn on this strange dormancy state to prevent battery drain. i don't think so because the problem happens only sometimes and not for mails so the connection is on. i had an SIII before the note and i had no problems. is it due to JB? on the S3 i had ICS, or it's really due to this "timer? or is my phablet defected?
tnx
So I already made a thread about this a bit ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025669 but this is a bit different see I get good battery life on screen (4 hours max). But I'm getting some **** ass batterywhen tthe phone is in sleep I kept the phone in airplane mode from 6 am to 12 pm from 100 it became 96.. I tried roms.. Kernels nothing fixed it. Maybe there's a bad app but I use better battery stats and really there's nothing 'bad'. But damn it.. I can post some screen shots about better battery stats results later I hope I get a reply.. This really does indeed ducks. People get a drain from 100 to 96 when they have everything turned on I had everything off!
4% battery loss over 18 hours is a commendable feat! Anyways, do you use a leather case, or keep the phone in a jeans pocket all the time? The higher temperature can be the cause. Though in my opinion, it's not a battery strain you should be worried about
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ramnex said:
4% battery loss over 18 hours is a commendable feat! Anyways, do you use a leather case, or keep the phone in a jeans pocket all the time? The higher temperature can be the cause. Though in my opinion, it's not a battery strain you should be worried about
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Thanks.. Maybe because the weather here is hot and I keep the phone in the car for a lot of times (not that hot in a hidden spot )
Guys can it be from Auto Sync? I just wiped off the whole phone(backedup ofc) and i didnt install any apps or whatever which means no syncing and im getting awesome battery..is it because of Auto sync my battery drains quick?now heres why i think its auto sync rather then anything else.Keep in mind i have ALOT of stuff syncing..
1 twitter
1 Facebook
2 Gmail
3 hotmail
Whatsapp
HP Printer connected
1 Samsung account
Now i want to know..if i disable auto sync for lets say Whats App. I wont be able to recieve any messages unless i open up the app?Will i get facebook notifications?Twitter mentions?Email notifications?
Austin3161337 said:
Now i want to know..if i disable auto sync for lets say Whats App. I wont be able to recieve any messages unless i open up the app?Will i get facebook notifications?Twitter mentions?Email notifications?
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If you turn off AutoSync, it's not going to sync and you're not going to get Pull notifications, but Push notifications should still work. Apps like Gmail use Push notifications, so the server tells the phone there's new email, instead of the phone waking up to ask the server. It depends on the app if it has Push notifications in it. I know G+, Gmail and Facebook do for example.
However, whether it's Push or Pull notifications, they still wake your phone up when they happen. So you're going to have wakelocks either way. With Pull, it's going to happen every time the AutoSync fires off. With Push, it will happen every time a notification comes in.
You can set up apps like Tasker and JuiceDefender to periodically turn on the radio and check for messages, then turn everything off again. That will help a lot.
Personally, as long as I get a full 18 hour+ day I don't limit the radios. I charge mine every night so I don't need to get 3 days of life out of it. Seems pointless to buy a smart phone, then disable everything about it that makes it a smart phone just to get 72 hours of battery. I can always use airplane mode if I'm not going to be near a charger for more than a few days.
Try Air Push Detector to check which app is waking up.
I'm currently on stock MM vs985 and am curious to know a little more about how Doze is supposed to work by default. I get the concept, some apps will spam you with notifications and drain your battery in the process, so those are kind of put on hold while others are "priority" notifications and get delivered immediately. The user also has the option to give specific exclusions from Doze so the notifications will get delivered immediately as they have in the past. At least this is my understanding of things.
The reason I ask is because Gmail notifications aren't quite right. When I'm actively using my phone in the morning, they seem to come in normally and Doze doesn't seem to be active (which is expected). Then when I go to work Doze will kick in and I notice I don't get as many Gmail notifications, which is fine. However on breaks or over lunch, I actively use my phone again. At this point I would expect Doze to no longer be active and I would think the notifications that Doze delayed would start showing up (granted maybe after some delay, but at some point over an hour lunch break). Today after work I didn't have any Gmail notifications so I opened Gmail, it showed the most recent email as one from around 11:00, I swiped down to refresh, and suddenly five more emails showed up (11:38, 12:01, 1:01, 2:59, and 5:40). With that many emails at those different times, I would have thought notifications would have came in at some point without me manually refreshing my emails.
I realize I could exclude Gmail from Doze, but I don't really need the notifications immediately and I would like to get the battery saving benefits of Doze, I just don't get what it's doing or why. I would assume Doze would DELAY notifications until later so they can be processed as one group/batch, not STOP them completely. Is this correct, is there possibly a setting or something I should be looking at?
akksnv said:
I'm currently on stock MM vs985 and am curious to know a little more about how Doze is supposed to work by default. I get the concept, some apps will spam you with notifications and drain your battery in the process, so those are kind of put on hold while others are "priority" notifications and get delivered immediately. The user also has the option to give specific exclusions from Doze so the notifications will get delivered immediately as they have in the past. At least this is my understanding of things.
The reason I ask is because Gmail notifications aren't quite right. When I'm actively using my phone in the morning, they seem to come in normally and Doze doesn't seem to be active (which is expected). Then when I go to work Doze will kick in and I notice I don't get as many Gmail notifications, which is fine. However on breaks or over lunch, I actively use my phone again. At this point I would expect Doze to no longer be active and I would think the notifications that Doze delayed would start showing up (granted maybe after some delay, but at some point over an hour lunch break). Today after work I didn't have any Gmail notifications so I opened Gmail, it showed the most recent email as one from around 11:00, I swiped down to refresh, and suddenly five more emails showed up (11:38, 12:01, 1:01, 2:59, and 5:40). With that many emails at those different times, I would have thought notifications would have came in at some point without me manually refreshing my emails.
I realize I could exclude Gmail from Doze, but I don't really need the notifications immediately and I would like to get the battery saving benefits of Doze, I just don't get what it's doing or why. I would assume Doze would DELAY notifications until later so they can be processed as one group/batch, not STOP them completely. Is this correct, is there possibly a setting or something I should be looking at?
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don't want to sound stupid but do you have greenify installed? Do you have sync turned on?
No greenify or any other non-stock battery saving apps, and yes sync is on. Lunch break and no notifications but I bet when I manually refresh in gmail later I'll have emails that should be coming in now :/
49 hours estimated time remaining for my battery, so it's definitely saving battery, but I'd kind of like notifications when I am using my phone :/
Break time at work, still no gmail notifications. One thing that I realized was that I did have a notification from Facebook just now. Does this indicate that either the Facebook notification has bypassed Doze (made itself priority) or gmail notifications specifically are being blocked by Doze?
Also, when I woke up this morning I did have gmail notifications waiting for me, so that means the normal sync process is capable of working correctly. I had my phone on the charger overnight, so Doze wouldn't have been active (which explains why the notification came through).
About 45 minutes ago I finally got gmail notifications for 6 new emails I got throughout the day. Not sure if it's relevant but this would have been about 10 minutes after I got home where I would have been back on wifi since this morning. I also noticed I have Facebook notifications, and the time on the notification is about two and a half hours ago, so I don't know why the gmail notifications wouldn't have came through at that time as well.
So with all of the knowledge and skills around here, no one has quite fully figured out the stock Doze functionality?
FWIW I don't seem to have this same issue on custom ROMs, at least not on Resurrection Remix.
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Got my pixel a few days ago. Not receiving notifications in time drives me nuts. So usually gmail notifications appear on screen as soon as I unlock and wait or after about 15-30 minutes after I received an email. Sometimes longer for whatsapp No battery saver, no adaptive battery, optimizations are off for gmail. Also tried all permutations of those settings. Tried factory reset and Q up and downgrade. Nothing seems to work. Happens on wifi and cellular. Devices isn't rooted.
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Got my pixel a few days ago. Not receiving notifications in time drives me nuts. So usually gmail notifications appear on screen as soon as I unlock and wait or after about 15-30 minutes after I received an email. Sometimes longer for whatsapp No battery saver, no adaptive battery, optimizations are off for gmail. Also tried all permutations of those settings. Tried factory reset and Q up and downgrade. Nothing seems to work. Happens on wifi and cellular. Devices isn't rooted.
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Since you are fairly new here in terms of posts, why not update your profile with at least your location and carrier. We don't need your exact GPS coordinates, but knowing what city/country you live in and which carrier you are using can be very helpful in diagnosing your problem. Others in your area may also chime in with their experiences if they see you are close by. If you are on an MVNO, then state exactly which one. To start with, how many APN's do you have for your carrier and have you tested any other than the default? Verify your APN settings with your carrier's web site, and fill in any that are blank or wrong. Was your SIM from your last phone, or did you get a new SIM from your carrier provisioned for your Pixel? You should not have to tweak your phone at all for the issues you are describing. Just some thoughts. Cheers.
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Got my pixel a few days ago. Not receiving notifications in time drives me nuts. So usually gmail notifications appear on screen as soon as I unlock and wait or after about 15-30 minutes after I received an email. Sometimes longer for whatsapp No battery saver, no adaptive battery, optimizations are off for gmail. Also tried all permutations of those settings. Tried factory reset and Q up and downgrade. Nothing seems to work. Happens on wifi and cellular. Devices isn't rooted.
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I have the same issues. I just ordered mine from Google, unlocked.
Sim from Sprint, updated PRL. Doesn't matter.
Sometimes I don't get notifications from my "battery charged" app.
It is frustrating. I don't know the fix, and I haven't mentioned it here either.
What seems to work so far is disabling deep/light idle via adb:
$ adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
Deep idle mode disabled
Light idle mode disabled
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This will be lost on reboot
scrap that, it's not working either way. Don't know what to do, it's unusable that way. Kinda need fast notifications for business
I have the same problem, but, only with certain apps. I'm on Verizon in St Louis, USA. I'm currently on Q beta, but, this happened on Pie at least since the start of this year.
Messages does this the worst. I'll get the message on the web app sometimes a couple minutes before it pops up on my phone. A REALLY funny one, when connected to my SUV via Bluetooth, a message will popup on its screen several seconds, sometimes more before it does on my phone. So, to me it seems like the phone is getting them right away, but doesn't send the notification immediately?
Now, Outlook on my phone I get them before they show on my work computer. So, thankfully I'm not getting delayed work emails, that could be bad considering I'm a sys admin.
I've noticed with some others, like Facebook or whatever, that if I wake up my phone, unlock it, or another notification comes in, all of a sudden I'll get some for those if there are any. In checking FB it's definitely a late notification.
I just turned off adaptive battery yesterday for other reasons, that hasn't helped. I wonder if it's one of the battery settings though that are somehow affecting it. Like the optimization for example. I don't know. It's REALLY annoying though. This plus the Bluetooth problems that Google can't seem to fix (but no other phone that I know about has these problems), I'm really starting to get pushed away here. If it weren't for day one updates, the camera, and things like that, I'd consider jumping ship...
If anyone figures this out, let me know! I'll keep digging too.
disable adaptive battery + exempt apps from battery optimization
virtyx said:
disable adaptive battery + exempt apps from battery optimization
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Yeah... that was the first thing I've tried. Haven't found any solution still. Basically gmail notifications don't work. Old mails will stay as unread for half-an hour and vice versa. Pretty useless
ryzion said:
Yeah... that was the first thing I've tried. Haven't found any solution still. Basically gmail notifications don't work. Old mails will stay as unread for half-an hour and vice versa. Pretty useless
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I noticed this for the first week after a clean flash then went back to normal
Might have something to do with the new battery management
So, I've been paying more attention to this, and, I've noticed something. Every time a notification doesn't come through, even though it pops up on my watch or my car, the tap to wake doesn't work. I wonder if the screen just isn't waking up for some reason? I'm not sure how that's controlled, so I don't know how one would fix it though.
Just wondering if anyone has figured this out. It is beyond ridiculous to have to wake up my phone in order for for a notification to come though. I am noticing this mostly with Gvoice and Gmail. My most frequently used and important apps. Connected to wifi 99% of the time as coverage is terrible in my area. All battery optimization is turned off. Also, it is intermittent. Most times things come through fine. For example. I woke up in the middle of the night and looked at my phone and I Gvoice message went off as soon as I woke it up. In this case the message was coincidentally sent right then, but that is the same behavior I have been experiencing when a message is delayed. Phone and watch are quiet, wake phone, suddenly my watch and phone go off with one or more notifications from one or more apps.
The one thing I have noticed is that push notifications get effed up for certain apps and I have to turn off app notifications, fully close app/clear cache, re-enable notifications and turn the app back on/reboot.