I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
killer659 said:
I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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No, it doesn't, it is the last bootloader that works with 4.3 and 4.4.2 that is KNOX free.
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I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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I got another suggestion which i found out 2 days ago which doesn't need upgrading bootloader to get wifi working.Flash any 4.4.2 custom touch wiz ROM and you wont have wifi working.Flash nadia or agni touchwiz kernel and you'll have working wifi.It seems those custom kernels have wifi drivers so people who are on bootloaders older than MJ5 are using latest touchwiz ROM without upgrading their bootloader.Custom kernel alone is getting the job done. Ofcourse you can flash MJ5 bootloader anytime which is knox free and will have working wifi without the need of custom kernel.
killer659 said:
I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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I advise you to flash the mj5 not have to be with kernel like you can not because there are many who are not going well and can do much to restart.
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Hello everybody.
As stated in many threads.. "THIS ROOM WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY".
I am currently on leaked 4.3, root, recovery installed. Flash counter is on 0, and everything is ok.
If I want to change rom I'm pretty sure the counter will go to 1. Can I get back to stock via Odin and then using TriangleAway and similar, without losing warranty? By resetting binaries and so on?
I mean, in this firmware version the bootloader and Knox should be ok. Am I right?
Thank you for your help
May be you did like to have a look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45254621&postcount=43
MJiindal said:
May be you did like to have a look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45254621&postcount=43
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Thank you for your reply.
If you flash counter is normal, nothing much to worried about status, as this can be corrected with flashing stock ROM/Wiping.
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Basically MI6 rom has not Knox related problems, so I should be able to flash and go back if I chose a MI6 based rom, with the same bootloader.
Am I right?
No firmware has been released for note 2 that has a KNOX enabled bootloader uptil XXUEMJ2.
The XXUEMI6 firmware does contain KNOX app but that can be disabled easily.So don't worry about the warranty(in case of MI6)and flash happily.
For devices bought in European Union:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251612
Shortly: No SW installation can void your warranty. We can flash what we want
I have triggered the knox counter ... and want to return to 4.1.2 to retain warranty .. to apply Dr. Ketan method I need mj5 rom bt hotfile site not working anymore... any other link for the rom ? Please help
If you need the bootloader only look here 1rst post at special instructions for 3.6 and above is a link for the mj5 bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2205009
Anyway if u r had flashed mk4 with bootloader or other newer I don't think is possible to downgrade or 0 the knox trigger.
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vagsvag said:
If you need the bootloader only look here 1rst post at special instructions for 3.6 and above is a link for the mj5 bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2205009
Anyway if u r had flashed mk4 with bootloader or other newer I don't think is possible to downgrade or 0 the knox trigger.
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thanks for quick reply.... i am currently on mk4 and have triggered the knox by using old method of root..... i tried to flash only mj5 bootloader bt it failed.... i need complete mj5 rom so that i can use dr. keten's method to make the bootloader knox free and then downgrade to 4.1.2....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823
The thread you are posted writed before mk4 and is for upgrade from mi6 or 4.1.2 not downgrade. Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531965
Anyway if you can't flash mj5 bootloader (this is happening because you try to downgrade) also and all rom to try will be the same. Ask drketan if you can try his fix at your bootloader and how to downgrade, if is possible.
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lets start from basics.... since i am able to flash 4.3 mk4 rom as many times , so i can also flash 4.3 mj5 rom easily( i am not downgrading here )... after that by applying patch to mj5 bootloader i can make it knox free and since dr. ketan has posted in his comment that yes it is possible to downgrade after applying patch to mj5 boot loader .. so this is what i am thinking of..
plzz tell is method possible for me? if yes where can i find mj5 rom link...
thank u in advance
don't waste your time..its not possible to change the bootloader once you flash official 4.3.
rom and bootloader is different thing !!
btw, since your knox already triggered you can not flash anything beside official 4.3..odin will failed
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don't waste your time..its not possible to change the bootloader once you flash official 4.3.
rom and bootloader is different thing !!
btw, since your knox already triggered you can not flash anything beside official 4.3..odin will failed
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not even official 4.3 mj5 rom ?
are there any chances of patch to mk4 bootloader in future?
sachinwadhwa46 said:
not even official 4.3 mj5 rom ?
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mj5 is leak rom...also there no full knox implementation yet in mj5
sora9009 said:
mj5 is leak rom...also there no full knox implementation yet in mj5
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so i should wait for the updates related to patch for knox enabled bootloaders... right? and thanks for making it clear...
N7100xxuemj5
hello great members, during my search on this N7100XXUEMJ5 to downgrade the 4.3, i found a reply that if i am on an official 4.3 and tried to odin N7100XXUEMJ5 it will not be considered as a downgrade and it will be accepted, it was not clear if the Knox was triggered or not will matter.
I would like to try it myself, but all the online links for N7100XXUEMJ5 are like disappeared i am searching for days now, all i can find is a cwm flashable rom and from my understanding this will not include the bootloader, i will need the odin version, and will be very grateful if someone shared it or uploaded it
what makes me feel it will work is that these links or copies were not disappeared by themselves so it may be the only backdoor, that is why it is hidden looool.
Also, if i want to de-trigger the knox, without removing it, is there away ? as per my readings, it has been done in a few sec in samsung shop (not sure of it)
Hi All,
I have a 4.3 custom rom and the MJ5 bootloader.
Mostly I have read that the bootloader is safe and the warranty flag will not be triggered.
However some posts speak about a warranty flag 0x1 while using MJ5.
Is the bootloader completely safe or are there some things I should not flash? (Besides newer bootloader)
Thanks in advance.
Regards
It's not warranty flag, it is Knox flag. It doesn't have anything in common with warranty And yes, MJ5 is safe since it has no Knox.
dalanik said:
It's not warranty flag, it is Knox flag. It doesn't have anything in common with warranty And yes, MJ5 is safe since it has no Knox.
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Does this mean with MJ5 bootloader I can root, flash custom recovery and nonknox-firmware by PC Odin or knox-firmware by Mobile Odin freely without worrying about knox flag 0 to 1?
congminh1709 said:
Does this mean with MJ5 bootloader I can root, flash custom recovery and nonknox-firmware by PC Odin or knox-firmware by Mobile Odin freely without worrying about knox flag 0 to 1?
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You can flash custom recovery (Phils v5.15 recommended) and custom ROMs. The only thing that will change is flash counter, but you can reset that with Triangle Away (will be increased each time you go to recovery, so you must run triangle away again), but you don't have to worry about KNOX, if you don't flash ROM wih KNOX (that is update bootloader). ROMs that are flashed from ODIN can have bootloader but if you flash from RECOVERY then you don't have to worry because these ROMs can't have bootloader.
dalanik said:
You can flash custom recovery (Phils v5.15 recommended) and custom ROMs. The only thing that will change is flash counter, but you can reset that with Triangle Away (will be increased each time you go to recovery, so you must run triangle away again), but you don't have to worry about KNOX, if you don't flash ROM wih KNOX (that is update bootloader). ROMs that are flashed from ODIN can have bootloader but if you flash from RECOVERY then you don't have to worry because these ROMs can't have bootloader.
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It means if I flash stock ROM 4.3+ wih KNOX by PC Odin (update bootloader), does knox flag security change 0 to 1? If knox security is 1 then no way to revert back to 0?
congminh1709 said:
It means if I flash stock ROM 4.3+ wih KNOX by PC Odin (update bootloader), does knox flag security change 0 to 1? If knox security is 1 then no way to revert back to 0?
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No, if you flash STOCK 4.3+ with KNOX, you will have KNOX security and you will not be able to DOWNGRADE bootloader ever again. Only if you try to flash other non-official ROM without KNOX, will you have KNOX security 1.
And yes - there is no way to reverse KNOX security back to 0.
Where do I go to flash the new 4.4.2 bootloader and baseband
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677252
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How do I flash with mobile odin
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Can I ask...
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
MoodSwinger said:
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
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Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
muniz_ri said:
Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
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This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I want to know that too.
mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
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I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
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So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
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It won't remove the Knox flag although they MAY not check it or they MAY when I did my warrenty return they did not but that doesn't mean it will always be the case
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hella356 said:
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
Thanks, makomek. I've been wondering about that, but haven't really found much info beyond the Knox implications. I have gotten an improvement in general phone call stability and download speed with the NB4 modem. Is what your're talking about related to the NON-HLOS.bin being installed? As I recall, that was to improve LTE, but I apparently it's actually related to WiFi. Or could be both? At least it's good to hear there are positive reasons to update the bootloader. Any idea if doing this would lock me into only using KitKat ROMs/kernels, or would 4.2/4.3 still work? Your input is much appreciated.
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
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PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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If your girlfriend's phone is stock, unrooted, and she took the OTA, the easiest way to get rid of lag is to factory reset. If she doesn't care about being rooted and just wants the stock rom, this is the easiest way to improve performance. Just start over. OTAs, in my opinion, are like a dirty flash.
Hi guys, I'm getting this phone from someone and I want to know that if the phone came with 4.1 without KNOX bootloader what can I do for precautions to not flashing KNOX bootloader?
or, if the phone is came with 4.4 with KNOX bootloader how can I remove it? thanks.
The question should be if you still need to bother about KNOX? THe warranty is probably over and if you have lower bootloader, then flash MJ5 and ROM without KNOX and prerooted like OMEGA, which I recommend. If you have newer bootloader then just flash whatever you want and forget about KNOX
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The question should be if you still need to bother about KNOX? THe warranty is probably over and if you have lower bootloader, then flash MJ5 and ROM without KNOX and prerooted like OMEGA, which I recommend. If you have newer bootloader then just flash whatever you want and forget about KNOX
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so there's no way to remove the knox bootloader right? So if I got the old bootloader, should I flash MJ5Patch?
AngSanley said:
so there's no way to remove the knox bootloader right? So if I got the old bootloader, should I flash MJ5Patch?
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If you get bootloader older than MJ5, flash MJ5 bootloader, it is the last one that works with 4.3/4.4.2 that is without KNOX. If you get it with MJ5, no need to do anything. If it's newer - you'll just have to live with the fact that Knox flag will be set to 1.... (if you want to flash custom ROMs)