Hello everybody.
As stated in many threads.. "THIS ROOM WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY".
I am currently on leaked 4.3, root, recovery installed. Flash counter is on 0, and everything is ok.
If I want to change rom I'm pretty sure the counter will go to 1. Can I get back to stock via Odin and then using TriangleAway and similar, without losing warranty? By resetting binaries and so on?
I mean, in this firmware version the bootloader and Knox should be ok. Am I right?
Thank you for your help
May be you did like to have a look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45254621&postcount=43
MJiindal said:
May be you did like to have a look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45254621&postcount=43
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Thank you for your reply.
If you flash counter is normal, nothing much to worried about status, as this can be corrected with flashing stock ROM/Wiping.
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Basically MI6 rom has not Knox related problems, so I should be able to flash and go back if I chose a MI6 based rom, with the same bootloader.
Am I right?
No firmware has been released for note 2 that has a KNOX enabled bootloader uptil XXUEMJ2.
The XXUEMI6 firmware does contain KNOX app but that can be disabled easily.So don't worry about the warranty(in case of MI6)and flash happily.
For devices bought in European Union:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251612
Shortly: No SW installation can void your warranty. We can flash what we want
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Hello I would like to ask something about knox. I haved flash the official firmware for India for Android 4.3 for the galaxy note 2, I want to experience it already that's why i flashed it even though my country has not yet have the update. I am planning to flash the stock rom for my country if it already has the update in the future so the firmware can match with my country. Are there problems that can occur doing that because Knox is there? Will it trigger the Knox void warranty? Its ok for me if it'll trigger cause my warranty for the phone is done.
If you flash (official) KNOX ROM over (official) KNOX ROM, it won't trigger KNOX bit.
dalanik said:
If you flash (official) KNOX ROM over (official) KNOX ROM, it won't trigger KNOX bit.
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How about weird IMEI ? 000xxxx
Pezmet said:
How about weird IMEI ? 000xxxx
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From what I've read here, it happened only on update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, I believe flashing anything from 4.1.2 upwards is safe.
dalanik said:
If you flash (official) KNOX ROM over (official) KNOX ROM, it won't trigger KNOX bit.
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Thankyou Sir!
galaxy s3 4.3 sgh i747m with Roger's on twrp recovery
Hi I have rooted my phone two days ago and im new to the rooting world of android there is soooo much stuff to learn !!!
I want to know what does it mean when im in odin mode and I see
qualcomm secureboot enable.... and bootloader rp swrev :1 what does it means actually ? I try to find information but it's not clear i dont want to install a custom rom and brick my phone ...
i have so many question ...
if I install a custom rom does my boot loader have to be unlock or i shouldn't care ?
I do i check if my bootloader is unlock ?
Is the carrier is important when you put a custom rom ?
where I can find the gapps file made for my phone ?
1 rom that interest me is wicked sensation rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2286350 it look so sick but once again it says for at&t can I install it if im with rogers because they are the same model ?
it's some little tecnical question that I have can some one help me
Are you on stock Rogers 4.3? If you are, loading a custom recovery will void the warranty by tripping the Knox counter.
If you have no warranty and just want to install a custom ROM, you can install a custom recovery via Odin and flash the ROM you want.
audit13 said:
Are you on stock Rogers 4.3? If you are, loading a custom recovery will void the warranty by tripping the Knox counter.
If you have no warranty and just want to install a custom ROM, you can install a custom recovery via Odin and flash the ROM you want.
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Yes im on stock 4.3 but my warranty is over so it doesn't really matter I have TWRP recovery so if I want to flash a rom there is no problem ?
I made a nandroid backup in case
carlosQC said:
Yes im on stock 4.3 but my warranty is over so it doesn't really matter I have TWRP recovery so if I want to flash a rom there is no problem ?
I made a nandroid backup in case
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I prefer Philz Touch which is based on CWM because I had problems flashing with TWRP.
There should be no problem as long as the ROM is supported by TWRP.
carlosQC said:
Yes im on stock 4.3 but my warranty is over so it doesn't really matter I have TWRP recovery so if I want to flash a rom there is no problem ?
I made a nandroid backup in case
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You shouldn't just go around flashing all the ROMs you think look or sound cool. I would suggest doing your research beforehand. For example, if you want to install the newer KitKat ROMs, you HAVE to be on a JellyBean bootloader. Click HERE for the bootloader guide if you need it.
Also, your TWRP should always be up to date. The link for the latest (may be outdated, idk...)TWRP is HERE
Lastly, if you ever run into any problems and want to go back to stock, or you just want to start fresh and start from scratch, then use this. This has never failed on me. Click HERE
Remember, YMMV.
Best of luck!
I don't think you need a 4.3 bootloader for all ROMs. I have loaded Cyanfox, CM11, and Vidalus which are all 4.4.2 ROMs without issue. I personally prefer to stay away from the 4.3 bootloader because I want the ability to return my phone to stock for warranty purposes.
The OP is running 4.3 stock and the link you provided could brick his phone.
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I don't think you need a 4.3 bootloader for all ROMs. I have loaded Cyanfox, CM11, and Vidalus which are all 4.4.2 ROMs without issue. I personally prefer to stay away from the 4.3 bootloader because I want the ability to return my phone to stock for warranty purposes.
The OP is running 4.3 stock and the link you provided could brick his phone.
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I never said that the OP needed to update his bootloader, I was just mentioning as an example if he wanted to then he would probably need to if he wanted to flash a KitKat ROM.
But you are right, for him, I would stay away from 4.3 since you can't downgrade.
I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
killer659 said:
I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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No, it doesn't, it is the last bootloader that works with 4.3 and 4.4.2 that is KNOX free.
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I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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I got another suggestion which i found out 2 days ago which doesn't need upgrading bootloader to get wifi working.Flash any 4.4.2 custom touch wiz ROM and you wont have wifi working.Flash nadia or agni touchwiz kernel and you'll have working wifi.It seems those custom kernels have wifi drivers so people who are on bootloaders older than MJ5 are using latest touchwiz ROM without upgrading their bootloader.Custom kernel alone is getting the job done. Ofcourse you can flash MJ5 bootloader anytime which is knox free and will have working wifi without the need of custom kernel.
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I would like to ask : Does the MJ5 bootloader have knox warranty bit in recovery? I would like to flash it, but i dont want to have knox counter.
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I advise you to flash the mj5 not have to be with kernel like you can not because there are many who are not going well and can do much to restart.
Successfully rooted without tripping Knox with Towelroot. NE6 firmware. I have T-Mobile Jump and would like to Jump to the Note 4 when it comes out. If I install TWRP and make a backup of stock, will I trip knox and void my JUMP eligibility? Wanted to install via Flashify and install Xposed framework at some point down the line.
Thanks!
Steameffekt said:
Successfully rooted without tripping Knox with Towelroot. NE6 firmware. I have T-Mobile Jump and would like to Jump to the Note 4 when it comes out. If I install TWRP and make a backup of stock, will I trip knox and void my JUMP eligibility? Wanted to install via Flashify and install Xposed framework at some point down the line.
Thanks!
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Yes.. Custom recovery or custom kernel will trip knox
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effortless said:
Yes.. Custom recovery or custom kernel will trip knox
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If I flashed back to stock, did a factory reset, would it still say custom?
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If I flashed back to stock, did a factory reset, would it still say custom?
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As long as you didn't flash a custom kernel or recovery, it should be OK once you flash stock.
Even if you trip Knox, flash back to stock and jump when the time comes. They generally don't care about that as long as your phone is not damaged.
Knox warranty void is not the phone warranty. It's telling you Knox can't secure your phone anymore. Its (Knox's) warranty is void. People all over the Internet don't even know what Knox is and they spread misinformation.
Look up what Knox really is. It is an app that runs on your phone and creates a secure Android environment within itself. It's like another phone with its own launcher and app store that is secure. It's meant for employees to use their personal phone for work purposes as well.
When you trip the Knox warranty, Knox triggers an efuse that will prevent the secure container from being able to be created... Meaning Knox will never work again on your phone. It's a security measure so that companies will take the Samsung phones seriously in the work space. In reality it has worked for them as the department of defense recently approved a few Samsung models with Knox.
If you don't plan on using Knox for anything, then trip Knox and enjoy custom kernels/recoveries etc. If you do plan on using it, it's not a good idea to even root your phone as the whole purpose of Knox is to be secure and rooting will make Knox vulnerable.. You might even get fired if your IT department finds out.
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Yes.. Custom recovery or custom kernel will trip knox
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effortless said:
As long as you didn't flash a custom kernel or recovery, it should be OK once you flash stock.
Even if you trip Knox, flash back to stock and jump when the time comes. They generally don't care about that as long as your phone is not damaged.
Knox warranty void is not the phone warranty. It's telling you Knox can't secure your phone anymore. Its (Knox's) warranty is void. People all over the Internet don't even know what Knox is and they spread misinformation.
Look up what Knox really is. It is an app that runs on your phone and creates a secure Android environment within itself. It's like another phone with its own launcher and app store that is secure. It's meant for employees to use their personal phone for work purposes as well.
When you trip the Knox warranty, Knox triggers an efuse that will prevent the secure container from being able to be created... Meaning Knox will never work again on your phone. It's a security measure so that companies will take the Samsung phones seriously in the work space. In reality it has worked for them as the department of defense recently approved a few Samsung models with Knox.
If you don't plan on using Knox for anything, then trip Knox and enjoy custom kernels/recoveries etc. If you do plan on using it, it's not a good idea to even root your phone as the whole purpose of Knox is to be secure and rooting will make Knox vulnerable.. You might even get fired if your IT department finds out.
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Makes sense and I probably will flash a custom recovery. I just don't understand the fuss with people wanting not to trip knox if they're not even gonna use it.
I successfully rooted my Tmo Note 3 with Towelroot v2. I am currently on NE6 Boot-loader and have Knox at 0x0 and would like to remain there. I would like to upgrade to the new firmware NF1 which is not rootable with Towelroot yet. Does anyone know if using Mobile Odin Pro is able to keep root if manually done without breaking/tripping Knox? I think I remember reading somewhere that it was okay to do so and ignore the message even though it asks to download a file and then it gives a warning saying that:
"Using, Mobile Odin on this device will void your warranty, as the Knox counter will be triggered .This is not reversible".
Can someone confirm if its Okay to ignore the warning and that activating Mobile Odin Pro on my phone is OK without triggering Know 0x1, or was that other posting I read somewhere wrong? I cannot remember where I read it. If not possible to use Mobile Odin without triggering Knox 0x1,. is there any other way to root NF1 without triggering knox on our device? What do you guys think?
un-answered question............
I don't know why I have not asked this before, but here it goes..........
First, I just want to say that I could care less about Knox...
(my phone already has the knox pox)
But for future reference if I had a brand new Note 3 with official stock NB4 baseband
and I rooted it successfully using Towelroot (or root de la vaga) would it be possible
to simply rename a custom rom like Hyperdrive to "update.zip" and copy it to the
internal sdcard then boot into the stock NB4 recovery and flash/install "update.zip"?
If the only problem with this method would be the fact that a different kernel would
also flashed along with the rom it would be an easy fix by just removing the kernel
from the custom rom file before flashing the update.zip?
I know that more likely than not this method would not work.
But if it did work it should not trip the knox right?
Eudeferrer said:
I successfully rooted my Tmo Note 3 with Towelroot v2. I am currently on NE6 Boot-loader and have Knox at 0x0 and would like to remain there. I would like to upgrade to the new firmware NF1 which is not rootable with Towelroot yet. Does anyone know if using Mobile Odin Pro is able to keep root if manually done without breaking/tripping Knox? I think I remember reading somewhere that it was okay to do so and ignore the message even though it asks to download a file and then it gives a warning saying that:
"Using, Mobile Odin on this device will void your warranty, as the Knox counter will be triggered .This is not reversible".
Can someone confirm if its Okay to ignore the warning and that activating Mobile Odin Pro on my phone is OK without triggering Know 0x1, or was that other posting I read somewhere wrong? I cannot remember where I read it. If not possible to use Mobile Odin without triggering Knox 0x1,. is there any other way to root NF1 without triggering knox on our device? What do you guys think?
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Eudeferrer said:
I successfully rooted my Tmo Note 3 with Towelroot v2. I am currently on NE6 Boot-loader and have Knox at 0x0 and would like to remain there. I would like to upgrade to the new firmware NF1 which is not rootable with Towelroot yet. Does anyone know if using Mobile Odin Pro is able to keep root if manually done without breaking/tripping Knox? I think I remember reading somewhere that it was okay to do so and ignore the message even though it asks to download a file and then it gives a warning saying that:
"Using, Mobile Odin on this device will void your warranty, as the Knox counter will be triggered .This is not reversible". Can someone confirm if its Okay to ignore the warning and that activating Mobile Odin Pro on my phone is OK without triggering Know 0x1, or was that other posting I read somewhere wrong? I cannot remember where I read it. If not possible to use Mobile Odin without triggering Knox 0x1,. is there any other way to root NF1 without triggering knox on our device? What do you guys think?
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I just checked and it's OK to "install" Mobile Odin on your phone and it
it will NOT trip the KNOX counter by simply installing it as long as you:
1: Don't flash any custom recoveries like twrp/cwm.
2: Don't flash any stock or custom kernels.
3: Don't flash any modems/baseband or bootloaders.
4: Don't flash any custom odin flashable firmwares.
In mobile odin there is no option to flash cwm/twrp
flashable zip files of any kind including custom roms.
Good luck!
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I just checked and it's OK to "install" Mobile Odin on your phone and it
it will NOT trip the KNOX counter by simply installing it as long as you:
1: Don't flash any custom recoveries like twrp/cwm.
2: Don't flash any stock or custom kernels.
3: Don't flash any modems/baseband or bootloaders.
4: Don't flash any custom odin flashable firmwares.
In mobile odin there is no option to flash cwm/twrp
flashable zip files of any kind including custom roms.
Good luck!
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Why would flashing a stock kernel/baseband or firmware cause Knox to change to 0x1 when done through Mobile Odin? I thought this would happen only through custom based ones?
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Why would flashing a stock kernel/baseband or firmware cause Knox to change to 0x1 when done through Mobile Odin? I thought this would happen only through custom based ones?
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First of all I never said not to odin flash stock official firmware in my post.
If you or anyone else knows for sure that the modem/baseband or kernel you are
wanting to flash are 100% official stock 4.4.2 Kitkat NB4/NE6/NF1 versions then
its just fine to flash those.
However since knox cannot be rolled back and to keep things on the SAFE side I
always suggest the very safest way to do these things which even a NOOB would
understand without getting into trouble with a lot of unexpected issues. :laugh:
Good luck!
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First of all I never said not to odin flash stock official firmware in my post.
If you or anyone else knows for sure that the modem/baseband or kernel you are
wanting to flash are 100% official stock 4.4.2 Kitkat NB4/NE6/NF1 versions then
its just fine to flash those.
However since knox cannot be rolled back and to keep things on the SAFE side I
always suggest the very safest way to do these things which even a NOOB would
understand without getting into trouble with a lot of unexpected issues. :laugh:
Good luck!
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My bad. I guess I misunderstood you the first time. Thank you for your response.
Hi guys, I'm getting this phone from someone and I want to know that if the phone came with 4.1 without KNOX bootloader what can I do for precautions to not flashing KNOX bootloader?
or, if the phone is came with 4.4 with KNOX bootloader how can I remove it? thanks.
The question should be if you still need to bother about KNOX? THe warranty is probably over and if you have lower bootloader, then flash MJ5 and ROM without KNOX and prerooted like OMEGA, which I recommend. If you have newer bootloader then just flash whatever you want and forget about KNOX
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The question should be if you still need to bother about KNOX? THe warranty is probably over and if you have lower bootloader, then flash MJ5 and ROM without KNOX and prerooted like OMEGA, which I recommend. If you have newer bootloader then just flash whatever you want and forget about KNOX
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so there's no way to remove the knox bootloader right? So if I got the old bootloader, should I flash MJ5Patch?
AngSanley said:
so there's no way to remove the knox bootloader right? So if I got the old bootloader, should I flash MJ5Patch?
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If you get bootloader older than MJ5, flash MJ5 bootloader, it is the last one that works with 4.3/4.4.2 that is without KNOX. If you get it with MJ5, no need to do anything. If it's newer - you'll just have to live with the fact that Knox flag will be set to 1.... (if you want to flash custom ROMs)