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RMA UK device, came back with US Motherboard, AT&T locked Internet.

I RMA-ed my HTC Titan X310e from UK because of the GPS Problem in tracking me down .
HTC sent it back with a US Motherboard of the Titan P series, which is from AT&T.
I have a goPhone service before and the UK Titan acquired great 3G for me, but now , i have the 4G icon popup, but i can;t access internet. I can call, text a message and receive them without any trouble.
I thought that even GoPhone services doesn't provide 4G Speed, at least they will still let me connect to the 3G network? Because i can't surf web at all.
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Download the HTC connection setup app while connected to the internet via wifi. Disconnect from wifi then run the connection setup app.

voluptuary said:
Download the HTC connection setup app while connected to the internet via wifi. Disconnect from wifi then run the connection setup app.
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I tried. No luck.
But guess what, i swap the IPhone 4S Simcard from my Brother. I was able to get online on that sim.
So look like AT&T locked my simcard? Can they do that? because my simcard is a goldphone one.

A gophone sim will work in any att phone and an att sim will work in any gophone or that's how it is supposed be. If it's not working for you even after using the network tool I would stop in an att store (a corporate owned one) and talk to someone about it. BTW that 4G is still really 3G it's just how att shows HSPA+.

voluptuary said:
A gophone sim will work in any att phone and an att sim will work in any gophone or that's how it is supposed be. If it's not working for you even after using the network tool I would stop in an att store (a corporate owned one) and talk to someone about it. BTW that 4G is still really 3G it's just how att shows HSPA+.
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I have the $50 Unlimited Plan, and yeah, whatever...
I had the H icon for HSPA+ ( I believe) when my phone is still an UK devices.
Now my titan is more like a mix from US Motherboard of AT&T Version and other part from UK version...
But what do you mean by a Corporate Ownder ATT Store?

Strike_Eagle said:
I have the $50 Unlimited Plan, and yeah, whatever...
I had the H icon for HSPA+ ( I believe) when my phone is still an UK devices.
Now my titan is more like a mix from US Motherboard of AT&T Version and other part from UK version...
But what do you mean by a Corporate Ownder ATT Store?
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The moment you walk into a corporate owned AT&T store and ask them to fix your phone because you wanted unlimited Internet again on your smartphone, they'll more than likely say its not possible.
The data plans on GoPhone pre-paid accounts were never meant for smartphones, as prepaid smartphones have their own capped data packages you can purchase.
So if you really find someone very nice or helpful (and that is a big if), then great. But more than likely, they will turn you away and tell you that you can only use regular data packages on your smartphone device with a prepaid account.

prjkthack said:
The moment you walk into a corporate owned AT&T store and ask them to fix your phone because you wanted unlimited Internet again on your smartphone, they'll more than likely say its not possible.
The data plans on GoPhone pre-paid accounts were never meant for smartphones, as prepaid smartphones have their own capped data packages you can purchase.
So if you really find someone very nice or helpful (and that is a big if), then great. But more than likely, they will turn you away and tell you that you can only use regular data packages on your smartphone device with a prepaid account.
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Yeah... at least they are right when i have Internet Service on the Contract-Based sim...
Freaking stupid...
Feel kinda regret for having the motherboard changed, lol.

Strike_Eagle said:
Yeah... at least they are right when i have Internet Service on the Contract-Based sim...
Freaking stupid...
Feel kinda regret for having the motherboard changed, lol.
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I think you need to get onto HTC and ream them for sending you back a different phone that what you purchased. You purchased a UK phone, did you not? They sent it back to you with AT&T parts. This is not ok, as far as I'm concerned... if the substitution was not approved by you. It's up to HTC to make your smartphone 'right' again.

+1 with Ansieo
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Here you can see the front of my Titan now
Clear, no AT&T mark.
But on the back, the model is from AT&T.
As far as i know, they said they replaced the MB and that is all they did, so, the screeen, camera... and something else that i don't know is still from UK.
As far as you guys tell me, i will have to find another temp replacement since this could happen regularly and i need my phone for my stuffs.
PS: I plugged the old GoPhone simcard in to a GSM Phone and i still have EDGE Signal and can surf web on it...
anseio said:
I think you need to get onto HTC and ream them for sending you back a different phone that what you purchased. You purchased a UK phone, did you not? They sent it back to you with AT&T parts. This is not ok, as far as I'm concerned... if the substitution was not approved by you. It's up to HTC to make your smartphone 'right' again.
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and no, they didn't call me at all. The phone was received on Monday , and it get fixed in Tuesday, and sent it back to me on Wednesday...

I'd be losses if I bought an I branded phone, sent it in for repair, and received branded parts back.
Strike_Eagle said:
Here you can see the front of my Titan now
Clear, no AT&T mark.
But on the back, the model is from AT&T.
As far as i know, they said they replaced the MB and that is all they did, so, the screeen, camera... and something else that i don't know is still from UK.
As far as you guys tell me, i will have to find another temp replacement since this could happen regularly and i need my phone for my stuffs.
PS: I plugged the old GoPhone simcard in to a GSM Phone and i still have EDGE Signal and can surf web on it...
and no, they didn't call me at all. The phone was received on Monday , and it get fixed in Tuesday, and sent it back to me on Wednesday...
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Correction: I'd be pissed.
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I will call the lads down there to see what is up on Monday...
does HTC have an Unbranded US Version for Titan after all?

Strike_Eagle said:
I will call the lads down there to see what is up on Monday...
does HTC have an Unbranded US Version for Titan after all?
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To my understanding... no, they don't.

anseio said:
To my understanding... no, they don't.
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If i say i want an unbranded one, i bet they will say that there is not much difference between 2 version, and they can get me an Sim-Unlock Code...
But i just still wondering why i have 3g/4G access on the Contract-based Sim , but not GoPhone.

Strike_Eagle said:
If i say i want an unbranded one, i bet they will say that there is not much difference between 2 version, and they can get me an Sim-Unlock Code...
But i just still wondering why i have 3g/4G access on the Contract-based Sim , but not GoPhone.
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Probably because if its got an AT&T/US IMEI, then AT&T is well aware that you are using a smartphone and they can actively block you from taking advantage of smartphone internet without the appropriate data package.
See before, you had an unknown IMEI from out of the country, so AT&T can't make heads or tails of it, and therefore they don't do anything about it when you use it on a plan you aren't supposed to be using it for. But now that they know you are using a smartphone, they say no data plan for you.

prjkthack said:
Probably because if its got an AT&T/US IMEI, then AT&T is well aware that you are using a smartphone and they can actively block you from taking advantage of smartphone internet without the appropriate data package.
See before, you had an unknown IMEI from out of the country, so AT&T can't make heads or tails of it, and therefore they don't do anything about it when you use it on a plan you aren't supposed to be using it for. But now that they know you are using a smartphone, they say no data plan for you.
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I am using the $50 Unlimited All from GoPhone which is required for Smartphone.
"Smartphone users must purchase a data package to use data services with any plan. Pay-per-use is not available with smartphones."
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...cell-phone-plans.jsp?wtSlotClick=1-005ZH4-0-2

Strike_Eagle said:
I am using the $50 Unlimited All from GoPhone which is required for Smartphone.
"Smartphone users must purchase a data package to use data services with any plan. Pay-per-use is not available with smartphones."
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...cell-phone-plans.jsp?wtSlotClick=1-005ZH4-0-2
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When you imported your Titan from the UK, AT&T had no way of knowing it was a smartphone. Therefore, you get to bypass any of their 'requirements'.
For example. I have a $20/mth unlimited GPRS Media Max plan. I get unlimited GPRS (from my feature phone) and 200 sms. Tethering is 'not allowed'. Now, I only use imported phones. I'm able to tether at HSPA speeds and my Lumia 800 from the UK is unrecognizable. Last year, I once put my SIM into an AT&T HTC HD7S and they immediately (and w/o my permission) forced me off my plan. A nasty little call to them and a ticket that took 5 days to resolve got me back on my old data plan.
Long story short. If the imei of your device is not recognized by AT&T as a smartphone, then you're victim to all of their limitations.

anseio said:
When you imported your Titan from the UK, AT&T had no way of knowing it was a smartphone. Therefore, you get to bypass any of their 'requirements'.
For example. I have a $20/mth unlimited GPRS Media Max plan. I get unlimited GPRS (from my feature phone) and 200 sms. Tethering is 'not allowed'. Now, I only use imported phones. I'm able to tether at HSPA speeds and my Lumia 800 from the UK is unrecognizable. Last year, I once put my SIM into an AT&T HTC HD7S and they immediately (and w/o my permission) forced me off my plan. A nasty little call to them and a ticket that took 5 days to resolve got me back on my old data plan.
Long story short. If the imei of your device is not recognized by AT&T as a smartphone, then you're victim to all of their limitations.
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If i have to go with contract based... either the way is hurt, because their cheapest plan for an individual is like $69 for calling and data (they just require data for the contract, but we also need calling...)...
So basically, i don't really see the difference between branded and unbranded device if i use the contract-based sim (at least for me - who text and use data alot ) because there isn't much options,

Here is the Update:
I tried the iPhone Microsim in the slot for Titan, little weird, but it works.
The reason that i RMA-ed the phone was about my GPS when it fu(ked up. At least i know it is fixed (somehow) when it was able to acquire the position of mine, little bit slow, but i think that because i am staying inside the house and my location doesn't have great Signal for AT&T tho... ( i usually have 1-3 bar of AT&T inside.) But whatever, it was able to track down where i am and hold it for over 3-4 mins.
I also tried surfing web without Wifi:
So... I think i am going to AT&T store tomorrow. Sign up for a god damn contract...

[Q] Expansys USA HTC One X Help

I need some help from the real experts. I think that I may have screwed myself here on my One X Purchase. I got it from expansys-usa.com. Hopefully this is just my ignorance but from what I have been told by HTC customer service is that I received a Malaysian version of the One X. And that It will not be compatible at all with any US carrier for Data.
Here is where my current situation.
Ordered the phone wednesday 4/18 from Expansys-Usa.com
Received today, 4/20
Took it in to my local T-Mobile and had my sim from my Nexus One Cut down.
I receive phone calls and texts just fine but no data connection at all will work.
I was at T-Mobile for 2 hours as they tried to manually enter all APN settings, as well as talk to HTC support, no luck. In the end I was told I had a Malaysian model and that was the issue. When you enter the APN settings and save them, all it says is no Sim card found, please enter one. But the messaging and calling is connected in the back ground..
I have not been deep into phone tech for the last year or two so I am rusty on everything. What do you guys think, is there anything I can try to do here or is my only option to return the phone if possible?
Why would Expansys send out a Malaysian model? When first booting my phone the only language options are Asian-English but with like 12 different version of all different Asian countries. I get no option for anything in Europe.
Thank you..

mbomberz1 said:
I need some help from the real experts. I think that I may have screwed myself here on my One X Purchase. I got it from expansys-usa.com. Hopefully this is just my ignorance but from what I have been told by HTC customer service is that I received a Malaysian version of the One X. And that It will not be compatible at all with any US carrier for Data.
Here is where my current situation.
Ordered the phone wednesday 4/18 from Expansys-Usa.com
Received today, 4/20
Took it in to my local T-Mobile and had my sim from my Nexus One Cut down.
I receive phone calls and texts just fine but no data connection at all will work.
I was at T-Mobile for 2 hours as they tried to manually enter all APN settings, as well as talk to HTC support, no luck. In the end I was told I had a Malaysian model and that was the issue. When you enter the APN settings and save them, all it says is no Sim card found, please enter one. But the messaging and calling is connected in the back ground..
I have not been deep into phone tech for the last year or two so I am rusty on everything. What do you guys think, is there anything I can try to do here or is my only option to return the phone if possible?
Why would Expansys send out a Malaysian model? When first booting my phone the only language options are Asian-English but with like 12 different version of all different Asian countries. I get no option for anything in Europe.
Thank you..
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Sounds like a t-mobile issue.
I have the same model as you I believe (asian region model, got "English" at initial startup but with a lot of different asian countries). All I did was go to "APN" setting in mobile networks, click on "AT&T" and everything works fine for me.
So yes, the asian one works on USA networks, but yours sounds like a t-mobile issue. This is of course if you have the same model as me, which is sounds like you do.

You know even if you had a European model it would only get 2G on T-Mobile?
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joshnichols189 said:
You know even if you had a European model it would only get 2G on T-Mobile?
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That might be OP's problem. T-mobile 2g is so slow it would almost seem like there is no data connection.
HTC One X does not support t-mobile 3g.

Thanks for the replies. Although, I do know that I only will receive 2G. I had planned on this. But the problem is I get no data at all.
It is good to hear that there is someone else with this version and its working on ATT at least.

If your account is not provisioned correctly for the APN settings you are trying to use the phone will refuse to connect at all. Have Tmo check the plan they have you on. I had a similar problem with AT&T.
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phobos512 said:
If your account is not provisioned correctly for the APN settings you are trying to use the phone will refuse to connect at all. Have Tmo check the plan they have you on. I had a similar problem with AT&T.
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I will keep this in mind, thanks for the comment. The one problem is, I cant save any APN settings on the phone, when i enter them, and save, it just says there is no sim card in the phone. So its not saving them or using them.
I found this thread which seems like my issue: Take a look.
http://androidforums.com/htc-one-x/...im-issues-unlocked-htc-one-x.html#post4260319

mbomberz1 said:
Why would Expansys send out a Malaysian model?
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Expansys will source the phone from the Asia region because they are readily available there IMO. I ordered from Expansys Australia and they sourced the phone from Hong Kong. And I too got all chinese freaking characters when I booted the phone a bit annoying but not much I can do now.

shadowboy23 said:
Expansys will source the phone from the Asia region because they are readily available there IMO. I ordered from Expansys Australia and they sourced the phone from Hong Kong. And I too got all chinese freaking characters when I booted the phone a bit annoying but not much I can do now.
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hmm i got my phone shipped from hong kong and i don't have any branding or issues with it.. when i booted up no chinese characters or anything just ask the 4 language to pick.. but mine was a retail version from HTC in hong kong.

wai_lai416 said:
hmm i got my phone shipped from hong kong and i don't have any branding or issues with it.. when i booted up no chinese characters or anything just ask the 4 language to pick.. but mine was a retail version from HTC in hong kong.
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Don't have branding on mine too. Just had to do a hard reset and I was able to choose from 3 languages (1 english and 2 chinese languages).

Have the same problem . I have tried many time apn setting manually , I have the same message no sim card insert one
If you figure out the issue , please let's know

Well a good update.
Like in the thread I linked, it was an issue with the T-Mobile sim cards. Only the old style works with this phone. At least for now, hopefully a software update will fix this. I went to another T Mobile store the guy there was really helpful and we tried a handful of simcards. Ended up with the conclusion that the 3G sim cards worked, old style. He had to grab one out of an old Sensation package he said. But the newer 3GG ones dont. I dont know of the real diff but I wanted to share how the outcome was. I am now happily on edge. Hopefully 3G soon!

mbomberz1 said:
I need some help from the real experts. I think that I may have screwed myself here on my One X Purchase. I got it from expansys-usa.com. Hopefully this is just my ignorance but from what I have been told by HTC customer service is that I received a Malaysian version of the One X. And that It will not be compatible at all with any US carrier for Data.
Here is where my current situation.
Ordered the phone wednesday 4/18 from Expansys-Usa.com
Received today, 4/20
Took it in to my local T-Mobile and had my sim from my Nexus One Cut down.
I receive phone calls and texts just fine but no data connection at all will work.
I was at T-Mobile for 2 hours as they tried to manually enter all APN settings, as well as talk to HTC support, no luck. In the end I was told I had a Malaysian model and that was the issue. When you enter the APN settings and save them, all it says is no Sim card found, please enter one. But the messaging and calling is connected in the back ground..
I have not been deep into phone tech for the last year or two so I am rusty on everything. What do you guys think, is there anything I can try to do here or is my only option to return the phone if possible?
Why would Expansys send out a Malaysian model? When first booting my phone the only language options are Asian-English but with like 12 different version of all different Asian countries. I get no option for anything in Europe.
Thank you..
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Mbomberz,
Please let me know if you need any further assistance with this. You can PM me directly if you like. We are one of T-Mobile's PrePaid SIM distributors here in the States and could look into this for you.
Corey
EXPANSYS-USA

johnl199 said:
That might be OP's problem. T-mobile 2g is so slow it would almost seem like there is no data connection.
HTC One X does not support t-mobile 3g.
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Wrong, Edge works on 3g and it is as fast as it can be..If you watch some videos of the One x on tmo you will notice how fast Edge is..

I bought from expansys USA as well. No problems at all and received the Taiwan build. I know a few people were having problems with T-Mobile and data. The issue was solved by getting the older micro sim card that said 3g, not their new one that says 3gg.
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hello00 said:
Wrong, Edge works on 3g and it is as fast as it can be..If you watch some videos of the One x on tmo you will notice how fast Edge is..
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EDGE/GRPS and "fast" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. EDGE is 2G, not 3G, and speeds are highly influenced by load on the network. 1MB down would be a stupendous result but in some markets is can be as low as 300KB. If it works for you; cool. But people shouldn't think that EDGE speeds are going to be a satisfactory alternative to HSPA/HSPA+. And speeds will vary widely across T-Mobile’s network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution

hello00 said:
Wrong, Edge works on 3g and it is as fast as it can be..If you watch some videos of the One x on tmo you will notice how fast Edge is..
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!

hello00 said:
Wrong, Edge works on 3g and it is as fast as it can be..If you watch some videos of the One x on tmo you will notice how fast Edge is..
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EDGE/GRPS and "fast" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. EDGE is 2G, not 3G, and speeds are highly influenced by load on the network. 1MB down would be a stupendous result but in some markets is can be as low as 300KB. If it works for you; cool. But people shouldn't think that EDGE speeds are going to be a satisfactory alternative to HSPA/HSPA+. And speeds will vary widely across T-Mobile’s network.
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your correct..it is 2g but works as it was 3g..this video will help you to understand that edge isn't slow like a lot of people may think..i had one time that it loaded a page almost instantly..i was surprised at the speed i was getting and still getting..and that was in an area where tmobile hasn't refarmed their 1900 spectrum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr72-n-7cb0
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I initially tried using my One X on Tmo here in the states as well. I got a prepaid micro sim from the tmo store and had no issues besides only getting dreadful Edge only. Switched to AT&T and had no problems getting hspa+ with no issues. I have a China made one X I bought from Singapore. If you're bent on using tmo, try a micro sim.
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flash tab3 for phone use

Okay so I want to buy a tab3 and flash to use my phones sim card and be able to do sms and voice calls.. i did this with tab2 is there anything out yet for tab3? or nexus7?

Frustratez said:
Okay so I want to buy a tab3 and flash to use my phones sim card and be able to do sms and voice calls.. i did this with tab2 is there anything out yet for tab3? or nexus7?
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Not possible.
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Which model? A few Tab 3's are voice capable (without flashing), as is the international Note 8.

I'm curious about this as well. I have a t217a for ATT. I was under the impression that the gsm versions were all capable. I know I am boot loader locked...
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mrocklewitz said:
Not possible.
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Could you elaborate on that. Did they remove some of the hardware from the previous version

mentalmike99 said:
Could you elaborate on that. Did they remove some of the hardware from the previous version
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To simplify even more - show me where the actual development is taking place on these devices.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00E8S8LRE/ref=mw_dp_olp

mrocklewitz said:
To simplify even more - show me where the actual development is taking place on these devices.
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I havent heard of any development. but if the hardware is capable then i was wondering along with everybody else, could we enable the dialer and use it could it be reverted back to the android 2.2 to enable that part of the radio? do you have any info on this? I know the 8 inch international version has it,

mentalmike99 said:
I havent heard of any development. but if the hardware is capable then i was wondering along with everybody else, could we enable the dialer and use it could it be reverted back to the android 2.2 to enable that part of the radio? do you have any info on this? I know the 8 inch international version has it,
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I don't know much about this device even though I own one.
There's no normally placed earpiece so I can't imagine using it as a phone, hell, a tablet would look pretty stupid held to my face - which reminds me, no proximity sensor in it....
Revert back to 2.2? This device comes with 4.2 out of the box. No way to downgrade versions that I can see.
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mrocklewitz said:
I don't know much about this device even though I own one.
There's no normally placed earpiece so I can't imagine using it as a phone, hell, a tablet would look pretty stupid held to my face - which reminds me, no proximity sensor in it....
Revert back to 2.2? This device comes with 4.2 out of the box. No way to downgrade versions that I can see.
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I got rid of my phone service a long time ago and just use voip now on with my samsung note with the tmobile 5gb $30 plan, but i switched over to att for this tablet and have been using it with voip with no problems call quality is excellent, speakerphone is crystal clear but i like using my headphones i use grooveip so all my calls to all phones in the us is free. this thing makes a great phone. but knowing that the hardware is there it would be nice to just enable it and have the regular android dialer, the reason i said to revert it to 2.2 was because people have been doing that to enable the specific gsm frequency radio hardware on certain devices.
I think you are not really understanding what we are talking about, true it does not have a built in earpiece like a traditional phone, but it does have bluetooth for a headset and it does have a headphone jack for headphones and speakers for speakerphone and it has the gsm radio hardware for it, im using it right now as my phone using voip with att 4g network and it works great, someone calls my USA telephone number from a phone and my tablet rings, i answer and it works great as a phone..... but it would also be nice to have the regular gsm phone service active on it as a back up and for texting. and 911 so yes it works great as a phone now. we were just trying to flash it to enable the gsm radio
So you are not being helpful at all. because you dont seem to have knowledge regarding the issues we are referring to, and correct you would not hold it to your head because it has no earpiece but that does not matter and also it might look ridiculous to you but others might not really give a sh** what people think.
so to simplify even more , why dont you just stop discouraging people from trying to make things better

Im with @mentalmike99 on this if your not trying to further the discussion in a positive way no need to post. as for Groove IP I never could get it set right to work correctly so I use Zoiper or OBiON with my G-Voice # and they both work great. As far as sms use the G-Voice app or Hangout's now does sms as well. Just an Idea for you to look into for sms.
Hope we can get this figured out. You couldn't use that $30 5GB T-Mo plan on the AT&T GTAB 3 if it were unlocked? If not is the plan tied to the imei & not the Sim card? I was thinking about going to that plan is why I am asking. Thanks

I am using tablet voice with my Google voice number. It works, but I'm not real impressed with it. I only use it on speaker. Having the full on phone active would be a he he plus for me as well, but I'm wondering if its going to happen because of the bootloader being locked still. I can't really speculate about the older tabs because I didn't have one, but I thought the hardware was there and just needed to have a modem fw flashed to enable it. It seems like the ATT version is going to be uncharted territory for a while, but I'm hopeful...
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4MUSKRAT said:
Hope we can get this figured out. You couldn't use that $30 5GB T-Mo plan on the AT&T GTAB 3 if it were unlocked? If not is the plan tied to the imei & not the Sim card? I was thinking about going to that plan is why I am asking. Thanks
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the tmobile plan is awsome but i had to change to ATT because tmobile's cell tower is messed up in my home area so i havent been able to get data for like 2 months here so i finally had to give up on them. trust me i would have loved to stay with them cause i think ATT really sucks, good service technically but price wise no way!. thanks for the info on the other voip services because grooveip works good but it keeps loosing the incoming connection so i sometimes cant receive calls unless i exit and restart the program
As for using it on Tmobiles network, i dont think it would be a problem as long as Tmobile had "refarmed" their tower in your area to the LTE freq. if not then I believe you can only get 2g , not sure on all of that.
Just so you know you will need to get a new tmobile sim from walmart or at least tell them you got it from walmart to activate on the $30 plan.
i really hope we can get the phone part going cause thats the only thinkg i miss about using my samsung note

mentalmike99 said:
the tmobile plan is awsome but i had to change to ATT because tmobile's cell tower is messed up in my home area so i havent been able to get data for like 2 months here so i finally had to give up on them. trust me i would have loved to stay with them cause i think ATT really sucks, good service technically but price wise no way!. thanks for the info on the other voip services because grooveip works good but it keeps loosing the incoming connection so i sometimes cant receive calls unless i exit and restart the program
As for using it on Tmobiles network, i dont think it would be a problem as long as Tmobile had "refarmed" their tower in your area to the LTE freq. if not then I believe you can only get 2g , not sure on all of that.
Just so you know you will need to get a new tmobile sim from walmart or at least tell them you got it from walmart to activate on the $30 plan.
i really hope we can get the phone part going cause thats the only thinkg i miss about using my samsung note
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I bought 4 sims Directly from T-Mobile awhile back well actually I didn't "BUY" them they were free. All I read about it was that you have to Activate online to get that plan which is not an issue for me cause that's all I do is Activate Customers online all day long its just thru my dealer portals lol I guess its kinda different but don't tell anyone shh lol kinding anyway well thats good to know that it should work & sorry to hear about ur tower issue. The coverage map says they have "4G" in my area & people that have stopped buy with T-Mobile 4G enabled phones get 4G here & some of the T-Mo MVNO's I sell get 4G so I think im good to go on that front unless they are selling hspa+ as 4G still then I may b alittle disappointed idk we will see.
So what is the "UNLOCKED" comment about? was that about the Bootloader or Sim Part? If you want a Good site to get SIP info for G-Voice that will work in any SIP App let me know I'll point u toward a site that u can get it free I gave a "donation" & got the GSM band but you can use other bands I didn't see a difference honestly I just think DEV's & Other that do stuff like need paid for their HARD WORK they put in. Diff topic all together I know

Locked is for boot loader, meaning if there are any packages/firmware that needs to be flashed the ATT people may be out of luck. Sprint on the other hand is not boot loader locked. Sim unlocked is something else, mainly moving to a different provider with existing equipment.
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Ok so I got to wondering if it is possible to use this as a phone. Im not a programmer but I went into the Build.prop file & it looks like the phone part of this device is enabled. I took a screen shot & put some red arrows by what I am talking about. I don't have any clue if those help or mean anything but I would think that phone enabled is a good sign.
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Why not?
I use this tablet primarily for voice calls, sms texts, net surf, games, etc etc just like normal android phones out there.
got earpiece at the topside (chrome holes thingy), so when making voice calls, we don't need to use external speakers, just hold it just like normal phones do. It also got proximity sensor.
mine is tab 3 7.0 model t211, GSM HSPA, 16gb.
got to admit tho, earpiece voice not loud, had trouble hearing especially at crowded and noisy places.
looks weird placing voice calls with this huge thing, everyone is looking at me lol.

NO Ear Speaker on a T211 that I know of Included link also
tukulll said:
Why not?
I use this tablet primarily for voice calls, sms texts, net surf, games, etc etc just like normal android phones out there.
got earpiece at the topside (chrome holes thingy), so when making voice calls, we don't need to use external speakers, just hold it just like normal phones do. It also got proximity sensor.
mine is tab 3 7.0 model t211, GSM HSPA, 16gb.
got to admit tho, earpiece voice not loud, had trouble hearing especially at crowded and noisy places.
looks weird placing voice calls with this huge thing, everyone is looking at me lol.
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I don't know how to edit the info up top I stand Corrected before you chew into my A**.
Is that the International Version? I did a search on it & didn't see the Speaker till after I put my post up then I seen this pic on phone arena & I see the 1 with the speaker ur talking about but haven't seen it anywhere for sale I don't believe. Where did u get it & what carrier is for? AT&T?
Most of us are using bluetooth or wired headsets & using our Google Voice with 1 of many app's & ways to use the setup. I personally have 3 diff apps I on my tab that I could use at anytime but none of them are a "Great" or "Perfect" solution to a stock dialer setup like a normal phone. I'm willing to pay a little bit & help with whatever I can to get this done. If theres a dev out there that wants to look into this & uses hangouts hit me up at snyderswireless if you need a file pulled from the tab or whatever. It would be nice to have a stock dialer that we could use.
I know i'm thinking about getting rid of this tab & getting either a Note 8(for the Phone) or Nexus 7(leaning toward this) on T-Mo but haven't made up my mind yet on what I want to do.

the OP original question is IF he buys the tab3, then will phone/mms work.
and the answer is "depends" on which model he buys.
Some work right out of the box with your existing sim out of your smart phone.
Some wont.. rule of thumb would be the price point.. and the screenshot of the device..
I say if its close to 300$ and higher, it may have the capabilities built in..
cheaper tab3's, (and if the phone icon) doesnt show on the home screen..May or May not.
We should start to list the models we have and let him know what we do to get them to do what he wants..
Tab3 - 8" T-315 international version. Phone/data/mms are built in from the get go. just take the sim out of my smartphone and stick it in the tab.

4MUSKRAT said:
I don't know how to edit the info up top I stand Corrected before you chew into my A**.
Is that the International Version? I did a search on it & didn't see the Speaker till after I put my post up then I seen this pic on phone arena & I see the 1 with the speaker ur talking about but haven't seen it anywhere for sale I don't believe. Where did u get it & what carrier is for? AT&T?
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I bought it here :
Code:
http://www.lazada.co.id/samsung-galaxy-tab-iii-t211-7-putih-89977.html
that's our local online store, trusted. i say, local only.
here's the pictures i snapped for your reference
and yes, it's basically a cell phone, a BIG cell phone, you can place voice calls and texts as normal phones do, runs on WCDMA (HSPA) frequencies, and unlocked, SIM free in Indonesia.
I don't know which frequency AT&T is based on, but this information below might be useful for you.
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http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/indonesia.html

[Q] SGH i257M on US AT&T

Has anyone used the SGH-I257M on US AT&T?
As I understand, it has the bands for multiple networks. The reason for asking is AT&T is dragging their feet.
Info I got from AT&T was that it has enough roll outs for Christmas and are not going to bring out the S4 Mini until January. My contract is up, S3 & S4 are too big for a pocket, I ditched my S3, I'm using an S2 clocked at 1.7 and gutted, nice phone, but time for a new toy to play with. I'm tired of waiting on the 'Mini', but flashable US Basebands will be unavailable for some time so I'm hoping someone has done this. More specifically meaning the 'non branded' SGH i257M and a functional LTE band 17. TIA

systwk said:
Has anyone used the SGH-I257M on US AT&T?
As I understand, it has the bands for multiple networks. The reason for asking is AT&T is dragging their feet.
Info I got from AT&T was that it has enough roll outs for Christmas and are not going to bring out the S4 Mini until January. My contract is up, S3 & S4 are too big for a pocket, I ditched my S3, I'm using an S2 clocked at 1.7 and gutted, nice phone, but time for a new toy to play with. I'm tired of waiting on the 'Mini', but flashable US Basebands will be unavailable for some time so I'm hoping someone has done this. More specifically meaning the 'non branded' SGH i257M and a functional LTE band 17. TIA
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If you get an unlocked SGH-I257M from Canada it will work for AT&T with LTE. I got one as an early Christmas gift for my girlfriend and it works no problem. I just put her 4G microSIM from her old phone (Pantech Burst) and set it up. The only thing I had to do was add the APN for AT&T 4G. Also, I believe it was the ChatON app that would not work in the US but it wasn't important.
EDIT: Also, a question I was thinking of as well is, if when the AT&T version comes out (or the firmware at least) could the AT&T I257 firmware be flashed on an I257M? That would minimize any issues from the phone's software..

wiisixtyfour said:
If you get an unlocked SGH-I257M from Canada it will work for AT&T with LTE. I got one as an early Christmas gift for my girlfriend and it works no problem. I just put her 4G microSIM from her old phone (Pantech Burst) and set it up. The only thing I had to do was add the APN for AT&T 4G. Also, I believe it was the ChatON app that would not work in the US but it wasn't important.
EDIT: Also, a question I was thinking of as well is, if when the AT&T version comes out (or the firmware at least) could the AT&T I257 firmware be flashed on an I257M? That would minimize any issues from the phone's software..
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I appreciate the reply. That is good to know. Yeah, ChatON is of no interest. As for flashing, There are multiple reports that the 9195 ROM flashes OK on the M's, 9195 also adds the FM radio that is not given functionality in the M's but restored with the 9195 OS so I would assume the AT&T version should be no problem provided AT&T isn't pulling another non standard hardware version as they have in the past with some phones. (FCC filings don't indicate that) AT&T seems to have developed a phobia in recent years about their phones being retrofitted with new OS's. Also likely they are waiting for 4.3 or a Knox implementation in the deluded belief that it is secure. Thanks again for the heads up on function, looks like the price from Canada isn't too bad right now.

wiisixtyfour said:
If you get an unlocked SGH-I257M from Canada it will work for AT&T with LTE. I got one as an early Christmas gift for my girlfriend and it works no problem. I just put her 4G microSIM from her old phone (Pantech Burst) and set it up. The only thing I had to do was add the APN for AT&T 4G. Also, I believe it was the ChatON app that would not work in the US but it wasn't important.
EDIT: Also, a question I was thinking of as well is, if when the AT&T version comes out (or the firmware at least) could the AT&T I257 firmware be flashed on an I257M? That would minimize any issues from the phone's software..
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Hi. Thank you for sharing this. I actually just bought a Canadian i257M as well and now I'm waiting for it to get shipped to me. Question; do the samsung media apps work while in the US? For example, media hub, video hub and music hub? I ask because i used to own a GS4 from att and I purchased a lot of media on those apps and would like to continue using them if possible on the GS4 mini if possible.
Much appreciated!

Eltahur said:
Hi. Thank you for sharing this. I actually just bought a Canadian i257M as well and now I'm waiting for it to get shipped to me. Question; do the samsung media apps work while in the US? For example, media hub, video hub and music hub? I ask because i used to own a GS4 from att and I purchased a lot of media on those apps and would like to continue using them if possible on the GS4 mini if possible.
Much appreciated!
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You may have some disappointment, Samsung has switched to 'Samsung Hub' on the new phones, replacing the older Media hubs and interoperability suffers a lot. T-Mobile offers a Media Hub for their new phones, AT&T may as well since the Sammy app's leave so much behind. It's going to be a wait and see I suspect. With luck AT&T will have Media Hub apps instead of the newer Samsung replacements and all you will have to do is wait. It seems quite a few people have money tied up in the old system and that may keep it alive.
But other than that, all you need to get on line is write your carrier APN. The phone is turn-key as it is. I just got an 'M' and after gutting the OS, dropping in an APN and editing the Build Prop a little (not needed) it works great on US AT&T.
There are more and more of the i257M's turning up recently in the States and hopefully someone will be able to clarify the Media Hub issue more for you better than this.

Where are you guys getting unlocked 257Ms? I can't find anything on ebay and the internet suggests canadagsm may not be reputable.

Hi...wondering if you can help given you are on AT&T 4G LTE. My i257M arrived today from canadagsm and it appears rooted. Surprise, but maybe good. BTW...canadagsm handled this order ok, not great and not responsive, but they did deliver. Anyway so far so good, but I am also on AT&T 4G LTE and wondering how to edit the APN? Why? Right now I am only getting H+ connectivity. So wondering if there is a way to do this voa the hardware or only via software? Also, can you post the Build Prop? Lastly, due to rooted phones being disallowed on my company network I can only use a stock ROM.
Lastly, as I write this I ended up going into the boot ROM and which is not CWM and for the last 30 minutes and selecting install the volume up, the screen shows DOWNLOADING, DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!! However, I am not aware I am downloading anything and seeing this screen is a bit scary. I may mess with this a little more by the time anyone gets a chance to respond, so we will see.
Thanks in advance, malloy0
systwk said:
You may have some disappointment, Samsung has switched to 'Samsung Hub' on the new phones, replacing the older Media hubs and interoperability suffers a lot. T-Mobile offers a Media Hub for their new phones, AT&T may as well since the Sammy app's leave so much behind. It's going to be a wait and see I suspect. With luck AT&T will have Media Hub apps instead of the newer Samsung replacements and all you will have to do is wait. It seems quite a few people have money tied up in the old system and that may keep it alive.
But other than that, all you need to get on line is write your carrier APN. The phone is turn-key as it is. I just got an 'M' and after gutting the OS, dropping in an APN and editing the Build Prop a little (not needed) it works great on US AT&T.
There are more and more of the i257M's turning up recently in the States and hopefully someone will be able to clarify the Media Hub issue more for you better than this.
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malloy0 said:
Hi...wondering if you can help given you are on AT&T 4G LTE. My i257M arrived today from canadagsm and it appears rooted. Surprise, but maybe good. BTW...canadagsm handled this order ok, not great and not responsive, but they did deliver. Anyway so far so good, but I am also on AT&T 4G LTE and wondering how to edit the APN? Why? Right now I am only getting H+ connectivity. So wondering if there is a way to do this voa the hardware or only via software? Also, can you post the Build Prop? Lastly, due to rooted phones being disallowed on my company network I can only use a stock ROM.
Lastly, as I write this I ended up going into the boot ROM and which is not CWM and for the last 30 minutes and selecting install the volume up, the screen shows DOWNLOADING, DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!! However, I am not aware I am downloading anything and seeing this screen is a bit scary. I may mess with this a little more by the time anyone gets a chance to respond, so we will see.
Thanks in advance, malloy0
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I just made a thread abouu this. Just picked up a i257m and on every kind of combination of rom I'm stuck at only h+. I spent a few hours on the phone with cs to figure out why after googling a few other cases similar to ours. Turns out att doesn't support unlocked phones so the account isn't setup to push lte. What others have done, and what I'm going to try to do tomorrow is pop the sim into an att phone thss can do LTE and set it up and switch back and it should follow.

Att were assholes and wouldn't setup a device on my sim temporarily to prove to me LTE worked on my account. We popped my dim into a display g2 that was getting LTE, and got only h+. So I told him to pop the display sim in mine to see if I can get LTE, it only triggered the LTE option in the settings but never popped up saying it was getting any.. Hmm
Edit: got lte working with a new sim! All works perfect on att!

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Where are you guys getting unlocked 257Ms? I can't find anything on ebay and the internet suggests canadagsm may not be reputable.
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Just wanted to throw in an update, I took the risk and ordered a 257M from CanadaGSM. Minor hiccup with the webpage didn't forward my address to their credit card processor, but they sent me an e-mail and a paypal invoice, and shipped out the phone the same day I paid. Quick customer service response time via e-mail, too (as in within a few minutes). It works great on Straight Talk, but I don't live in an LTE area so I can't test that till this weekend.
It rooted easily, and now it's running PAC.
Edited to add some information.

voilsb said:
Just wanted to throw in an update, I took the risk and ordered a 257M from CanadaGSM. Minor hiccup with the webpage didn't forward my address to their credit card processor, but they sent me an e-mail and a paypal invoice, and shipped out the phone the same day I paid. Quick customer service response time via e-mail, too (as in within a few minutes). It works great on Straight Talk, but I don't live in an LTE area so I can't test that till this weekend.
It rooted easily, and now it's running PAC.
Edited to add some information.
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Good news for CanadaGSM...I too was leery, but after a few emails and phone calls they stepped it up big time. For now I have retired the S5 mini in favor of a Nokia Lumia 520 for $65!! Woo-eeee!! It's a super smooth phone. Apps are a little limited, but still have found everything I need except "stay awake" with charging. as for the S4 mini on LTE? No luck at all and expect one of two things...1) it's a locked Rogers phone and I am on AT&T, thus they will not allow LTE or the phone is not truly LTE capable.

voilsb said:
... ordered a 257M ... It rooted easily ...
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Can you post some detail about the rooting procedure that you used? I have not yet seen a complete procedure for the SGH-I257M.

malloy0 said:
Good news for CanadaGSM...I too was leery, but after a few emails and phone calls they stepped it up big time. For now I have retired the S5 mini in favor of a Nokia Lumia 520 for $65!! Woo-eeee!! It's a super smooth phone. Apps are a little limited, but still have found everything I need except "stay awake" with charging. as for the S4 mini on LTE? No luck at all and expect one of two things...1) it's a locked Rogers phone and I am on AT&T, thus they will not allow LTE or the phone is not truly LTE capable.
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I'm running the i257m on att with lte,only hiccup I had was they gave a 3g sim instead of an lte one and it took three weeks to prove it to them!
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Can you post some detail about the rooting procedure that you used? I have not yet seen a complete procedure for the SGH-I257M.
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Use the 9195 root method and 9195 roms, same phone just different lte bands.
What I did was use Odin to flash recovery then flashed the root kit then used the unlock app from the play store to be able to run att. Then I flashed my liquidsmooth and havent looked back!

I used Odin to flash philz touch recovery, then flashed the PAC nightly. Only issues so far are ROM related, like launcher preference and battery drain
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Question Anyone on Verizon have their Fold activated on esim?

Spent hours trying to get this done, what a pain in the @SS!
It thinks the IMEI2 is a physical sim!
They have to fix this crap.
Verizon's support is going down the tubes big time.

I didn't know there is Verizon Fold 4 eSim option? I preordered mine and it arrived last Monday. Activated it the same day. It comes with a new pSim, and I have to admit I am questioning the necessity of pSim if every new phone comes with one (physical sim) and I have no reason to take it out because I won't be changing plans or carriers in the foreseeable future. Why have one? Give me the option to buy a specific/no change/this-carrier-only-forever, and I can save a few bucks? Why the heck not! I am obviously aware of tract phones, or maybe I am not if that is where your question is going to lead.
Verizon - yes
New Fold 4 - yes
Activated - yes
eSim - no
interesting concept I didn't know existed.
The box came with the pokey tool specifically for sim removal. I haven't bothered to double confirm there is actually a sim in the tray that pops out. I trust them, it's there and we know the phone doesn't come with expandable micro sd ability so the tray better have a sim, or why have the tray?
If I were to pop the tray out just to look and that is the only reason for pulling it out, I have a chance of breaking something. Don't do that. That's what pilots do, and then I gotta fix it. LOL

The purpose of having esim is so you can put your primary number on it and have a physical sim slot free. This way if the phone is a work phone (or vice versa) you can have both lines on one device. Also, for traveling it comes in handy. Not sure about Samsung but I know with Apple you can actually have multiple lines registered to esim. Only two lines can be used simultaneously but (again) this comes in handy for travelers that may not have service with a particular carrier but another does, for example.
Carriers have rules too that governor the use of esim registration as well as sim lock. For example a Verizon phone on equipment payment plan (EIP) won't work on TMO on esim. At least not for the intial 60 day period from activation. Other carriers (ATT), for example won't lift the sim lock until the device is paid off.
This is why I always get unlocked devices. Always.

I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?

DrunkFuX666 said:
I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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I got my fold 4 on verizon and 5g works. It's didn't work too good at first and then I chatted with customer service a couple of days ago and now I finally get the full speed like I used to. I guess they never activated it properly before.

I've had no problems with 5G.
Unlocked running big red V in Tampa Florida.

DrunkFuX666 said:
I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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I've had no problems with 5G.
Unlocked running big red V in Tampa Florida.

DrunkFuX666 said:
I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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Possibly although if it is activated you should be getting whatever services are available.
Interestingly enough, I have two VZW numbers on my Fold 4 currently. One on a physical "5G" SIM provided by VZW in the past month, and the other on esim. Both numbers are on accounts with the highest level plan.
I was in an area that barely got any signal and the number with the physical sim was bouncing between no service and one bar whereas the esim number never completely lost service. Signals for both were in the -120 to -130 dBm range so very, very weak.
It was interesting to see this, however.
I've had both lines on my iPhone 13 Pro Max the same way and often see similar results and the signals showing for each often show different number of bars as well.

gsingh22 said:
I got my fold 4 on verizon and 5g works. It's didn't work too good at first and then I chatted with customer service a couple of days ago and now I finally get the full speed like I used to. I guess they never activated it properly before.
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The website is so painful to log into... I'll try to chat with someone... Not had the time to go to an office, although not sure if they may be better or worse than chat...

cpufrost said:
Possibly although if it is activated you should be getting whatever services are available.
Interestingly enough, I have two VZW numbers on my Fold 4 currently. One on a physical "5G" SIM provided by VZW in the past month, and the other on esim. Both numbers are on accounts with the highest level plan.
I was in an area that barely got any signal and the number with the physical sim was bouncing between no service and one bar whereas the esim number never completely lost service. Signals for both were in the -120 to -130 dBm range so very, very weak.
It was interesting to see this, however.
I've had both lines on my iPhone 13 Pro Max the same way and often see similar results and the signals showing for each often show different number of bars as well.
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Can you post a screenshot with Verizon activated on esim? I was told it can't be done yet...

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Much respect, what did you say to them? How did you do it. It's failed 3 times for me. And I would kill to have Verizon on esim so I can have aren't back to is annoying at times verizon variant or unlocked?

Mine is unlocked direct from Samsung.
I probably spent a total of 6 hours of my time to get this (finally) working over a period of about 1 week. Started with the website. It detected the IMEI as esim and 5G capable and compatible with VZW. Everything looked good but it would not activate at all! Tried a second time and got an error to contact support.
Did that via chat and got nowhere fast. They opened a ticket that they said could take up to a week to get resolved! I called a few more times during this period, transferred around to different people, etc. Still no luck.
The final time that worked was even though Verizon showed up as a carrier I still had no service. I was transferred to someone else that did more TS and finally asked me for the EID. After about 10 minutes, she came back and had me power off the phone. When it came back on I did see Verizon showing up along with my number. It took a few minutes and texts started coming through and I had voice and data!
It was a royal PIA. Perhaps everyone will benefit now that Apple is switching to esim ONLY as it will REQUIRE the carriers to get their S4iT together and make this process smoother. Because this was a total cluster-f!

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I'm trying right now... Not looking too hot

cpufrost said:
Mine is unlocked direct from Samsung.
I probably spent a total of 6 hours of my time to get this (finally) working over a period of about 1 week. Started with the website. It detected the IMEI as esim and 5G capable and compatible with VZW. Everything looked good but it would not activate at all! Tried a second time and got an error to contact support.
Did that via chat and got nowhere fast. They opened a ticket that they said could take up to a week to get resolved! I called a few more times during this period, transferred around to different people, etc. Still no luck.
The final time that worked was even though Verizon showed up as a carrier I still had no service. I was transferred to someone else that did more TS and finally asked me for the EID. After about 10 minutes, she came back and had me power off the phone. When it came back on I did see Verizon showing up along with my number. It took a few minutes and texts started coming through and I had voice and data!
It was a royal PIA. Perhaps everyone will benefit now that Apple is switching to esim ONLY as it will REQUIRE the carriers to get their S4iT together and make this process smoother. Because this was a total cluster-f!
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When I scan the cr is says my plans not setup and will not detect me

They need the IMEI 2 (esim) AND EID. Have no idea why they are having such a hard time with the newest Samsung phones! I was having the same issue initially.

What are the benefits of switching to esim? Besides having the sim slot available for an additional line or other carrier?

Not needing to carry two phones!

Anyone have an update regarding getting Verizon to activate your esim? They still won't activate mine, and I'm tired of carrying 2 phones (work and personal).

TechBSwift said:
Anyone have an update regarding getting Verizon to activate your esim? They still won't activate mine, and I'm tired of carrying 2 phones (work and personal).
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Cpufrost seems to be the only one I've seen. I couldn't either