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please... why not version locked and unlocked bootloaders for all roms.....
Locked bootloaders are restricted to stock roms, period. Custom roms require a custom kernel, which can only be installed with an unlocked bootloader.
DrReD said:
please... why not version locked and unlocked bootloaders for all roms.....
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Now we have CWM for locked bootloaders, you can use any custom rom based on stock, so thats every rom apart from CM7 and MIUI.
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Locked bootloaders are restricted to stock roms, period. Custom roms require a custom kernel, which can only be installed with an unlocked bootloaders.
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AndroHero said:
Now we have CWM for locked bootloaders, you can use any custom rom based on stock, so thats every rom apart from CM7 and that jap one MIUI.
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If you have a locked Bootloader, you can not use fastboot. So how can we flash a new ROM without fastboot? And we would only be able to flash a stock variant ROM, (basically bloatware removed), or a UK ROM or something, but im not sure what their ROM has to offer thats so different than ours, that I would not want to be able to fully use my Xpearia Play app to purchase new games. Everything a variant Stock ROM would do, i can do to my Stock ROM i already have.... remove bloat, change the look and appearance, even change the carrier name in the notification bar. Im not an expert though, thats just based on my limited knowledge of our phones.
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If you have a locked Bootloader, you can not use fastboot. So how can we flash a new ROM without fastboot? And we would only be able to flash a stock variant ROM, (basically bloatware removed), or a UK ROM or something, but im not sure what their ROM has to offer thats so different than ours, that I would not want to be able to fully use my Xpearia Play app to purchase new games. Everything a variant Stock ROM would do, i can do to my Stock ROM i already have.... remove bloat, change the look and appearance, even change the carrier name in the notification bar. Im not an expert though, thats just based on my limited knowledge of our phones.
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Stock variant roms can have a lot more done then just debloating. Look at my ics theme if I built a rom based on the look and feel of it every stock app would change in appearance. Not to mention most roms for any device are based on stock.
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odst0016 said:
Stock variant roms can have a lot more done then just debloating. Look at my ics theme if I built a rom based on the look and feel of it every stock app would change in appearance. Not to mention most roms for any device are based on stock.
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I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
Ahhh.... ok i see what your saying.... to change certain files in order to achieve a "themed" appearance on such a large scale would actually require pulling a ROM, decompiling it, making the changes, re-compile everything, then repushing, or flashing it as a whole new ROM. (hence the term stock variant as opposed to custom rom)
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I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
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Just flash on stock 2.3.3
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XperianceIT said:
I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
Ahhh.... ok i see what your saying.... to change certain files in order to achieve a "themed" appearance on such a large scale would actually require pulling a ROM, decompiling it, making the changes, re-compile everything, then repushing, or flashing it as a whole new ROM. (hence the term stock variant as opposed to custom rom)
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Yea its based on stock but is visually and most the time functionally different.
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So, actually, there are NO custom ROMs for the R800x, just customized versions of stock. And of those, there are maybe 2 CDMA compatible offerings. The GB "ROM" and using the ICS theme. Not the UK version because the hardware keys don't work. Other than that, what else is there?
I've seen this asked multiple times. I have yet to see anything but a vague answer. We need actual names, links, etc.
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So, actually, there are NO custom ROMs for the R800x, just customized versions of stock. And of those, there are maybe 2 CDMA compatible offerings. The GB "ROM" and using the ICS theme. Not the UK version because the hardware keys don't work. Other than that, what else is there?
I've seen this asked multiple times. I have yet to see anything but a vague answer. We need actual names, links, etc.
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What do you expect a custom rom to be. A port of an htc rom, cm7(which is basically the same as our stock rom just loads of extra features), miui. a custom rom is nothing more then a customized version of android designed for a device and we have those. I think there are 3 developers for the cdma play so the amount of roms we have reflect that.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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You already know the answer
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Thanks for making my point.
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Thanks for making my point.
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Your point being your not happy with what you got.or are you saying that those aren't custom roms.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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Wow, you guys have an odd sense of entitlement. This is a developers forum. Ultimately, it is here for the developers. If you want to know if a ROM works on the R800x look in the thread for that ROM. If you want more ROMs available either make them yourself or figure out a way to unlock our bootloader.
Ultimately, there is not nearly as much to be gained with custom ROMS as there is for other models, since we're already on a fairly stripped back Vanilla version. If you want to theme it, use a launcher.
I'm running ADW with an ICS theme... before that I was rocking Launcher7... Just enjoy your phone for what it is.
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Wow, you guys have an odd sense of entitlement. This is a developers forum. Ultimately, it is here for the developers. If you want to know if a ROM works on the R800x look in the thread for that ROM. If you want more ROMs available either make them yourself or figure out a way to unlock our bootloader.
Ultimately, there is not nearly as much to be gained with custom ROMS as there is for other models, since we're already on a fairly stripped back Vanilla version. If you want to theme it, use a launcher.
I'm running ADW with an ICS theme... before that I was rocking Launcher7... Just enjoy your phone for what it is.
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I agree. Everyone, please stop complaining. If you want to complain, go to a non-developer forum. Or even Reddit for gods sake.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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yeah a list will be good
CM7+ is actually a possibility on Locked Bootloaders.
I remember when I was on the Xperia X8 + X10 Mini Pro we never had a bootloader unlock until about 3-4 months back or something like that and we managed to get an almost perfect CM7 ROM thanks to FXP and we also managed to get a Honeycomb port!
So it is a posibility, maybe FXP will start having there ROMs for locked bootloaders.
They declared that since there was an official way to unlock the bootloader, they wouldn't try anything such as bootloader bypass.
It isn't a complaint, it's a request for a list. People keep saying there are several ROMs that will work on a locked bootloader, but no one ever gives a list or details. I read the threads, but the information simply isn't there. Or isn't clear to someone who doesn't have an unlocked bootloader.
And I have just as much right to make a request for information as anyone else. That's hardly an attitude of entitlement. But there is clearly an intentional bias against anyone who doesn't have an unlocked bootloader, particularly R800x owners and all we ever get are vague, unhelpful, often insulting answers from elitists who clearly enjoy lording it over the "n00bs" instead of helping us learn.
If you have nothing useful to contribute to the conversation, don't post to it, troll.
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First off, I'm a n00b.
I've been searching around, trying to find a list of Roms that are for locked bootloaders but I can't seem to find one.
Could someone just post a few roms that are for locked bootloaders?
I would unlock my bootloader but the risk seems too high/ I'll lose my warranty.
Thanks beforehand.
PS. Does anyone know how to get CM10 working on locked bootloader for Arc S
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Could someone just post a few roms that are for locked bootloaders?
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Is general browsing of the Development too hard for noobs these days.
I would unlock my bootloader but the risk seems too high/ I'll lose my warranty.
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PS. Does anyone know how to get CM10 working on locked bootloader for Arc S
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If there was a way it would state so in the thread.
ibz100 said:
First off, I'm a n00b.
I've been searching around, trying to find a list of Roms that are for locked bootloaders but I can't seem to find one.
Could someone just post a few roms that are for locked bootloaders?
I would unlock my bootloader but the risk seems too high/ I'll lose my warranty.
Thanks beforehand.
PS. Does anyone know how to get CM10 working on locked bootloader for Arc S
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There are a lot of roms for locked bootloaders in the development section lol. Just press a thread that looks good, press Control and F, and type in bootloader to see whether that particular Rom is for locked or unlocked. Roms based in stock ICS or GB are for locked bootloaders
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Jaders ultimate hd 2 Rom is a good one. Fast, stripped of bloatware and smooth.
I do agree with the previous posts an hour or two searching the dev section would turn up what your looking for, but come on guys asking for help in the q&a section im sure you can help more than just sating look, it is Christmas after all
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Just saying guys my boot loader is unlocked and I've relocked it and sent off my phone to warranty 2 times and they have not said anything so I think its safe as klong as you relock
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I've been trying to buy a Sony Xperia Ion (LT28AT) for use on T-Mobile USA where the bootloader is allowed to be unlocked. So far, all the devices I've looked at all say No.
I know I can still root an LT28AT where the bootloader unlock allowed = No, but I can't install custom ROMs and kernels, right?
But from reading threads here it seems some people can still install custom ROMs and kernels where the answer is No. Can anyone please clear this up for me?
Thanks!
With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
With an unlocked bootloader you can use roms that need another kernel, just like miui, cm 10 etc
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With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
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Does that include CyanogenMod ROMs like CM10, CM11 etc?
Also, with a locked bootloader can anyone tell me if I can install any kernels that will overclock?
THANKS!
CyanogenMod Roms need their own kernel, and to flash this kernel, you need an unlocked bootloader.
You cant flash any custom kernel on a locked bootloader.
You must unlocked bootloader before flash another kernel.
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With a locked bootloader you can use roms that are stock-based.
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So what ROMs are stock-based that are available on XDA?
U can actually flash cm 10 on u a locked boot loader... A developer @mrgeez is working on making cm10 rom for locked bootloaders... Some roms work on locked boot loader and some don't... But ideally don't buy a cell with locked bootloader.. Causes to many problems..
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parthv21 said:
U can actually flash cm 10 on u a locked boot loader... A developer @mrgeez is working on making cm10 rom ...
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That's not me sadly, you're probably thinking of someone else with a similar name...
Ya... I was talking about @MrGezz...
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mrgeez said:
That's not me sadly, you're probably thinking of someone else with a similar name...
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Ya... I was talking about @MrGezz...
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that kinda funny , hahaha, but anyone who own xperia ion that want to test cm10 for LB can found it here
Sorry, @parthv21, your info is inaccurate. See below link:
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2] CyanogenMod 10 for LOCKED bootloaders(For Xperia Ion)
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Sorry, @parthv21, your info is inaccurate. See below link:
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2] CyanogenMod 10 for LOCKED bootloaders(For Xperia Ion)
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What's inaccurate about it? This is an exception because they managed to get CM10 working with a stock kernel. You can't get any higher versions though because those require an appropriate kernel that isn't stock anymore. There have been a lot of kernel changes between Android 4.1 and 4.2. So on locked bootloader you can install stockbased ROMs (like eXistenZ) and one particular version of CM10. Impossible to flash a custom kernel.
Unlocking the bootloader also has downsides though. Beyond Android 4.0, the Mobile Bravia Engine stops working on an unlocked bootloader. Without that, the colours are a bit more washed out, and the screen already isn't the most vibrant around (the Xperia S screen anyway, but the Xperia Ion screen isn't that different).
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What's inaccurate about it?
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EEngineer said:
I know I can still root an LT28AT where the bootloader unlock allowed = No, but I can't install custom ROMs and kernels, right?
But from reading threads here it seems some people can still install custom ROMs and kernels where the answer is No. Can anyone please clear this up for me?
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This is an exception because they managed to get CM10 working with a stock kernel. You can't get any higher versions though because those require an appropriate kernel that isn't stock anymore. There have been a lot of kernel changes between Android 4.1 and 4.2. So on locked bootloader you can install stockbased ROMs (like eXistenZ) and one particular version of CM10. Impossible to flash a custom kernel.
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So really a locked bootloader means I can't install any kernels, And I can only install ROMs compatible with my existing stock kernel.
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Unlocking the bootloader also has downsides though. Beyond Android 4.0, the Mobile Bravia Engine stops working on an unlocked bootloader. Without that, the colours are a bit more washed out, and the screen already isn't the most vibrant around (the Xperia S screen anyway, but the Xperia Ion screen isn't that different).
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Good to know!
So as the thread says, this is a single question: I've been a Cyanogenmod user for many years, and now that I have an Xperia ZL with locked bootloader, I want to know what options I have for custom roms. I've tried MIUI but haven't found other roms to try.
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Also wondering this. Every time I try to flash omni or cm with twrp or philz for locked bootloaders my phone bricks and I need to recover it with xperia tools.
you need unlocked bootloader to install custom roms/kernels.
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Also wondering this. Every time I try to flash omni or cm with twrp or philz for locked bootloaders my phone bricks and I need to recover it with xperia tools.
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Locked bootloaders cannot flash ROMs which depend on a different kernel (such as Cyanogenmod). Bad luck for us, bro.
foomanjackel said:
you need unlocked bootloader to install custom roms/kernels.
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Yes, but which ROMs are there available for us, unfortunate locked bootloader users?
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Yes, but which ROMs are there available for us, unfortunate locked bootloader users?
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eXistenZ is nice. try looking in the "Xperia ZL Android Development" section. look at the titles of each thread. look for ones that start something like this:
[ROM][LB][UB]
simply put, it means its a rom ([ROM]) for locked bootloaders ([LB]} and unlocked bootloaders ([UB])
those are the ones you can use.
Thanks mate, I'll take a look
I have an m on jb rooted with safe strap is it possible to let it take the OTA to kitkat then root with tr and unlock the bootloader? If it can update will it give me the version that can't be unlocked? If I can't do the OTA how else can I get it on the right version of kitkat?
This has everything you need... Use rsd lite to upgrade to kk make sure you upgrade to 182/183.46.10 so you can unlock the boot loader
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Do you have a link to a download of the kk software? I'm at work looking at this on a phone don't see a link in that thread to it
elevatorguy said:
Do you have a link to a download of the kk software? I'm at work looking at this on a phone don't see a link in that thread to it
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Read through the thread linked to above and make sure you understand. There have been many people getting stuck at .15 and we don't want you to be one of them!
Firmware for use with RSD Lite: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=8 . Note that unlike OTAs, flashing with RSD Lite will make you lose your data and your internal storage contents - back up first. Use the 183.46.10 one, and if you want to unlock your BL, DO NOT TAKE THE OTA TO 183.46.15! I SAY IT AGAIN, DO NOT UPDATE TO 183.46.15!!
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Read through the thread linked to above and make sure you understand. There have been many people getting stuck at .15 and we don't want you to be one of them!
Firmware for use with RSD Lite: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=8 . Note that unlike OTAs, flashing with RSD Lite will make you lose your data and your internal storage contents - back up first. Use the 183.46.10 one, and if you want to unlock your BL, DO NOT TAKE THE OTA TO 183.46.15! I SAY IT AGAIN, DO NOT UPDATE TO 183.46.15!!
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So flash this file using RSD Lite afterwards phone will be on the version of KK that can be rooted with TR and bootloader unlocked with motopocalypse. Then can install custom recovery. I thank you for your help
As AndyYan stated read through the linked thread, it has very well written instructions complete with screenshots and links to the required files and please be sure to thank ATTACK for his time in putting it together for us... Just go to the original post for the walkthroughs and hit that thanks button to show him some well deserved appreciation...
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As AndyYan stated read through the linked thread, it has very well written instructions complete with screenshots and links to the required files and please be sure to thank ATTACK for his time in putting it together for us... Just go to the original post for the walkthroughs and hit that thanks button to show him some well deserved appreciation...
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OK thanks will check the thread when I get home. Some of the links probably just don't show up on mobile in fact can't follow the link to Web view from phone. Thanks again for the help ☺
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As AndyYan stated read through the linked thread, it has very well written instructions complete with screenshots and links to the required files and please be sure to thank ATTACK for his time in putting it together for us... Just go to the original post for the walkthroughs and hit that thanks button to show him some well deserved appreciation...
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Just reread if I understand it correctly I don't need kk just the firmware. . . If I'm understanding it correctly
elevatorguy said:
Just reread if I understand it correctly I don't need kk just the firmware. . . If I'm understanding it correctly
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Huh? The firmware's version is KitKat. You need the full firmware to be on KitKat and unlock your bootloader.
Bonus info: after upgrading to KitKat and unlocking, if you find KitKat's battery performance isn't satisfactory, you can always downgrade back to Jelly Bean using the guide in General section, and because this will not relock your bootloader, you're safe to do this.
If you have any trouble doing the above, read through the guide and other forum posts, and if no answer comes up, feel free to ask.
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I wrote that the wrong way. What I mean is the firmware file listed is a 750mb file. For my m8 the 4.4.4 firmware update was only 24mb. This leads me to believe that this file includes a kk rom to go along with the firmware. Read a little more(light bulb went on) I thought firmware and roms were always two separate things. . . Duh now I understand why just the one file is needed. I will give this a shot when I get up. Thanks for the help again. Sorry I was asking the wrong question ☺
Thanks andyyan and dbreezy187 all worked out got it done eventually ☺
That would be
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I have an m on jb rooted with safe strap is it possible to let it take the OTA to kitkat then root with tr and unlock the bootloader? If it can update will it give me the version that can't be unlocked? If I can't do the OTA how else can I get it on the right version of kitkat?
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THAT WOULD BE YOUR FIRSt AND LAST MISTAKE DONT DOO!!! BETTERY ISSUE S***S ALOT! MAN dont do itt
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THAT WOULD BE YOUR FIRSt AND LAST MISTAKE DONT DOO!!! BETTERY ISSUE S***S ALOT! MAN dont do itt
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Ha, he hasn't unlocked his BL yet, so just let him upgrade and do it. After unlocking BL he can still downgrade to JB and maybe even flash CM11 for JB BL (and that's what I recommend).
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Ha, he hasn't unlocked his BL yet, so just let him upgrade and do it. After unlocking BL he can still downgrade to JB and maybe even flash CM11 for JB BL (and that's what I recommend).
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Thanks again for your help. Now that I'm all unlocked I've seen a lot of stuff about jb and kk bl. I would assume I have a kk bl? Then if I downgrade to jb would have a jb bootloader. Do you have a favorite kk rom and a favorite jb rom? Is downgrading any more difficult than doing all the unlocking? This phone isn't my daily driver just kinda having fun with it ☺ sorry for the barrage of questions you seem waaayyyy more knowledgeable than I. Thanks again
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Thanks again for your help. Now that I'm all unlocked I've seen a lot of stuff about jb and kk bl. I would assume I have a kk bl? Then if I downgrade to jb would have a jb bootloader. Do you have a favorite kk rom and a favorite jb rom? Is downgrading any more difficult than doing all the unlocking? This phone isn't my daily driver just kinda having fun with it ☺ sorry for the barrage of questions you seem waaayyyy more knowledgeable than I. Thanks again
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The BL version is the same as your *stock* OS version, so because you now have stock KitKat, you're on KK BL. However, BL version is *not* tied to your custom ROM OS version. You can have KitKat with JB BL as well.
Please do note that some custom ROMs are built for a specific BL (e.g. CM11 has JB BL and KK BL variants).
As for now, it seems that most if not all ROMs for KK BL have minor but annoying issues, particularly in WiFi, BT and GPS, so if you want to avoid these issues, you can follow the guide in General section to downgrade to *stock* JB (in order to have JB BL - this will not relock your BL), then flash any JB BL ROM you want.
I'm always a CM fan so I load most of my devices with CM (see my signature), but if your RAZR is also a secondary device, you can try all the choices out there without worries, so why not?
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Thanks for the info. I'm still very new to all this the only phone I've really messed with is my m8 it's just roms and firmware. People like you make it a joy to learn and figure this stuff out. Thanks again
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The BL version is the same as your *stock* OS version, so because you now have stock KitKat, you're on KK BL. However, BL version is *not* tied to your custom ROM OS version. You can have KitKat with JB BL as well.
Please do note that some custom ROMs are built for a specific BL (e.g. CM11 has JB BL and KK BL variants).
As for now, it seems that most if not all ROMs for KK BL have minor but annoying issues, particularly in WiFi, BT and GPS, so if you want to avoid these issues, you can follow the guide in General section to downgrade to *stock* JB (in order to have JB BL - this will not relock your BL), then flash any JB BL ROM you want.
I'm always a CM fan so I load most of my devices with CM (see my signature), but if your RAZR is also a secondary device, you can try all the choices out there without worries, so why not?
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One last question I forgot. Can you use adb with this phone or only mfastboot I ask cause that program seems to hate me ?
AndyYan said:
The BL version is the same as your *stock* OS version, so because you now have stock KitKat, you're on KK BL. However, BL version is *not* tied to your custom ROM OS version. You can have KitKat with JB BL as well.
Please do note that some custom ROMs are built for a specific BL (e.g. CM11 has JB BL and KK BL variants).
As for now, it seems that most if not all ROMs for KK BL have minor but annoying issues, particularly in WiFi, BT and GPS, so if you want to avoid these issues, you can follow the guide in General section to downgrade to *stock* JB (in order to have JB BL - this will not relock your BL), then flash any JB BL ROM you want.
I'm always a CM fan so I load most of my devices with CM (see my signature), but if your RAZR is also a secondary device, you can try all the choices out there without worries, so why not?
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Didn't know if you had seen this but seems like an easy way to go back and forth between roms and bl's http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/50096-how-tomobile-downgrader-flash-back-10-09-14-14/ seems almost to good to be true. What do you think?
elevatorguy said:
One last question I forgot. Can you use adb with this phone or only mfastboot I ask cause that program seems to hate me ?
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Hmm, what do you intend to do? If it's flashing something in the AP Fastboot mode (e.g. boot logos, raw partition images) then no ADB. Custom recoveries and the OS itself accepts ADB commands pretty well, provided that you know how to use.
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Didn't know if you had seen this but seems like an easy way to go back and forth between roms and bl's http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/50096-how-tomobile-downgrader-flash-back-10-09-14-14/ seems almost to good to be true. What do you think?
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Looks good. Since you have a unlocked BL, there's near zero risk for trying anything (RSD's your best friend when everything fails) - go ahead if you feel adventurous.
Since I don't know what boot logost and raw partitions are don't think I'll need it. I know enough about adb to be dangerous ☺ I can usually bumble fk my way through and get it to work. Thanks again I'll give some of this stuff a shot and have you on speed dial if I really mess up