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"Locking" the keypad on my old candy bar phone made sense - if you didn't, buttons were always pressed and people were sometimes dialed from your pocket. I can also see the case for a lockscreen on the iPhone, for example, since maybe its home button can be pressed accidentally as well. However, for the EVO and for the Pre I had before it, the only way to turn on the device is via the power button up top, which is surely not going to be pressed on accident (especially with the EVO where it's only slightly raised and must be pressed deliberately). Because of this, the lockscreen serves practically no purpose, except to add an extra redundant step before using your phone. It might be more useful if it showed all recent notifications on it webOS-style, but since it only shows the most recent one, it's not very good for that either, and it isn't a big deal to pull down the shade once you're in the phone.
So, unless you actually secure your phone with a password/gesture/PIN, is there really any point to the lockscreen?
Im going to go on a guess here but the purpose of the lock screen is , in the event that the phone is in your pocket "Granted highly unlikely" the button does get pushed another process of slidding your finger down the screen to unlock would also be needed . I believe the phone sitting in a pocket or a purse or case it would be even more difficult for the sliding motion on the screen to happen . Just an extra safe guard more or less .
You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.
Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.
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You can use SwitchPro Widget to disable the lockscreen if you want.
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Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.
Also no lock works like a charm.
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Because its part of Android and the Evo isn't the only Android phone.
...yep.
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This is one reason. The other is simply because iPhone has it and it is Android competition, there is no denying that the development tries to outdo each other.
I do understand the OP's reasoning, with the build of HTC EVO 4G, lockscreen is not necessary. On the other hand, it is advised to lock your screen with either PIN or pattern just in case you lose your device. It is part of personal security responsibility.
ritzbrie said:
Is there an app or a way to just use the pattern lock as opposed to the slide down lock? I'd rather just have the pattern lock when unlocking rather than the swipe screen lock and then a pattern lock.
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I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.
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I'm using the latest CM6 nightly ( so i have the Vanilla lockscreen ) & if i have a pattern set, that is what i see when i press the power button, & after entering the pattern, my phone is unlocked. No need to swipe before or after.
Not sure what ROM you're using, but if it possible to use the Vanilla Lockscreen, you can probably get the same result.
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Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.
My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.
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Stock Sense, unrooted. If you put the pattern on you first have to unlock the screen before you can do the pattern. It is pretty retarded.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are their any special instructions for doing this? Im on Evo with 2.2 and I still get the swipe screen with the pattern or PIN enabled.
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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Are you sure...I don't see such a setting.
lacrossev said:
My phone's screen turns on occasionally for certain notifications and alerts, and if it isn't for the lockscreen, in the 30 seconds it takes for the screen to turn off again, i can easily butt-dial someone or do something else stupid.
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I'm sorry, normally I wouldn't clutter up xda with an off topic post, but I actaully lol'ed at butt-dial - never heard that term before
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It doesn't do this anymore with froyo, you can change the settings so it doesn't do the swipe only the unlock pattern or vice versa.
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I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.
you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.
Come on, we all know why: Because the iPhone had one. If every other phone didn't have a lock screen, imagine the kind of elitist harassment we'd get from the Apple camp.
"Oh, your screen just comes on? Strange. My iPhone has a lock screen. I just swipe my finger and it unlocks, it's way cool. I can even put a lock code on it. But, no, your phone is cute. I like the little robot guy."
And so forth.
mrass26 said:
you would really think it would be near impossible to butt-dial someone on the EVO, but leave it to me to prove to be the exception to the rule, I had the lock screen enabled even!!! and somehow in my pocket I called the same guy like 3 times over on the drive home one day... lucky it was a good friend of mine.
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wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!
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wait, what the hell...? You keep your phone in your back pocket? sitting on it?
May the Evo gods have pity on your soul... don't you know it gets its own front pocket, no keys, no coins, no lint, no nothing!
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Lol...I dedicated a pocket too. Nothing is allowed in my right front pocket but my phone. I have to force myself because with my g1 I had gotten to the point where I didn't care.
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I too was unable to get this to work. I saw no setting to disable the slick to unlock.
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It may be different depending on which ROM you're running, but I was able to get the pattern unlock without the slide unlock with CM6 RC1 using this method:
- Settings
- Location and Security
- Set up screen lock
- Pattern (add pattern here)
So I found out real quick last night while playing with my 6 month old baby that this watch needs some sort of lock. When she was squirming around in my arms the Google Voice commands opened a dozen times and she tried to share some of my notifications and reply with Voice for a couple of text messages. And this was all within the first 15 minutes.
I was wondering if there was anyone else experiencing this and their thoughts. I saw a couple of lock screen apps out there but I was thinking with the Moto 360 it would be really nice if that side button was a lock / unlock button for when you want the watch to remain in the ambient mode and not wake up from screen taps. I know that the button switches the watch to ambient mode but it does not seem to lock the screen from touches. Might be a nice idea for future implementation as I have not used the side button for anything yet as the screen wakes when I lift the watch to my face.
What are your thoughts?
this exact thing happened to me yesterday! I have an 8 month old and the watch just attracted him lol
I don't have a creature, but I too would like for the watch to only activate when I want it to. I want to have to press the button to turn the screen on.
Have you guys tried Showear or Lockable? Both are free but Lockable charges for the pin unlock feature.
I don't want just a screen lock, but a lock that completely keeps the screen turned off until I press the hard button on the side. (To not waste battery when I definitely don't want the screen to turn on by touch and/or accelerometer). Does an app exist for this?
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So I found out real quick last night while playing with my 6 month old baby that this watch needs some sort of lock. When she was squirming around in my arms the Google Voice commands opened a dozen times and she tried to share some of my notifications and reply with Voice for a couple of text messages. And this was all within the first 15 minutes.
I was wondering if there was anyone else experiencing this and their thoughts. I saw a couple of lock screen apps out there but I was thinking with the Moto 360 it would be really nice if that side button was a lock / unlock button for when you want the watch to remain in the ambient mode and not wake up from screen taps. I know that the button switches the watch to ambient mode but it does not seem to lock the screen from touches. Might be a nice idea for future implementation as I have not used the side button for anything yet as the screen wakes when I lift the watch to my face.
What are your thoughts?
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Have you tried to shower with it on?
It thinks the water is you touching it, and it goes crazy!
ChrisAshton84 said:
I don't want just a screen lock, but a lock that completely keeps the screen turned off until I press the hard button on the side. (To not waste battery when I definitely don't want the screen to turn on by touch and/or accelerometer). Does an app exist for this?
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That is exactly what I am looking for. Something that keeps it in the Ambient mode until I press the side button and locking the touch screen. It seems like an easy enough option because the button really has no other use as you can turn the screen on and off by tilting your hand. So it would probably serve better as a locking button.
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Have you tried to shower with it on?
It thinks the water is you touching it, and it goes crazy!
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I do not shower with a watch on so I have not tried it. I am sure it would go crazy. Another reason for a lock button.
Yea a lock app or something would be nice mine is so sensitive I could sneeze and it turns it on..hope something comes about soon
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I have come across an app called Baby Time which locks the watch and only allows a specific swipe gesture of up twice and then down twice. Kinda gets the task done but it would be a lot simpler if it was activated by the button on the Moto 360. Another comment is that it replaces the watch face you have with one created in the app which for some reason does not seem to have an option out of the 24 hour clock. I will use for now but I am hopeful that something better will come along. Also have to start the app by saying "Start Baby TIme"
Lol!
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I don't have a creature, but I too would like for the watch to only activate when I want it to. I want to have to press the button to turn the screen on.
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lol creature
Pretty much what the title says. I'm using resurrection remix rom right now. Is there somewhere an option to be able to wake the device with a press of the home button without using fingerprint lock? Or actually any lock at all.
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With no security feature? Why?
Fingerprint unlock is super fast and does what you want.
What's the usage case here?
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With no security feature? Why?
Fingerprint unlock is super fast and does what you want.
What's the usage case here?
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In some cases fingerprint just doesn't work. After doing heavy manual labor without cloves the fingerprints kind of lose they edge and one has to put his finger many times on the sensor. That's only one of the reasons that popped up to my mind from my personal experiences. I had a bug or something in OOS 3.2.6 that it unlocked the phone with any finger or skin contact. It was a foolproof and very simple way to open up the phone but I think it would be useless without a wallet case or something similar.
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In some cases fingerprint just doesn't work. After doing heavy manual labor without cloves the fingerprints kind of lose they edge and one has to put his finger many times on the sensor. That's only one of the reasons that popped up to my mind from my personal experiences. I had a bug or something in OOS 3.2.6 that it unlocked the phone with any finger or skin contact. It was a foolproof and very simple way to open up the phone but I think it would be useless without a wallet case or something similar.
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Try adding the same fingerprint multiple times. This should make it more accurate.
Does double tap the screen to wake work for you or does it have to be the home button?
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Try adding the same fingerprint multiple times. This should make it more accurate.
Does double tap the screen to wake work for you or does it have to be the home button?
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Double tap to wake would probably be enough. I've already added my finger multiple times but still having issues with it sometimes. At the moment I'm using Xposed Additions to unlock the screen. First I double tap to wake the phone to lock screen and then open it by long pressing the recent button if fingerprint is not recognized.
I realized after reading your post that I can wake up and unlock the device with double tap by removing security all together. Thanks for pointing me to right direction.
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With no security feature? Why?
Fingerprint unlock is super fast and does what you want.
What's the usage case here?
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Well, first of all, i dont really like locking my phone, as it's mostly a waste of time. No one gets my phone without me knowing it really, so there's no problem with "security" and having to unlock it is just one extra step especially when i hand my device to someone. Now fingerprints are fast indeed, but i'd have to add quite a few of my fingers as right thumb/pointer might sometimes just not be available for whatever reason and even then sometimes my hands may be dirty because im working, or something, and i'll use a knuckle or something like that.
Now to be honest double tap to wake has been growing on me, but still i'd like the single press home button unlock. It just seems easier and more elegant.
Hi Guys,
I'm thinking about buying this phone for a friend and need to understand how the fingerprint scanner works.
On my One Plus 3, the scanner is ON all the time which makes it awesome, (but probably eats battery.) :victory:
On my Galaxy Tab S2, you have to press the scanner to turn it on first, which makes the whole process much worse.
Is the scanner on the P2 always ON, (like the One Plus 3,) or does it require a press to wake it up? (like on Samsung devices.)
Thanks in advance. :highfive:
The scanner is always on.. you don't need to wake the phone to use it.. the battery drain is minimal
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Uibon said:
The scanner is always on.. you don't need to wake the phone to use it.. the battery drain is minimal
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Thanks Uibon. :highfive:
Is it a physical button? i.e. presses in, or is it just purely capacitive?
My Samsung also has an issue where if you lock the screen using an app, (Power Toggles,) you can't unlock the phone with your fingerprint. Any idea if the P2 suffers the same issue?
It's both. The fingerprint sensor is capacitive and works by just placing one's finger on it. There are also many gestures that work on the capacitive sensor like tap to go back long press to view recent apps. The button is also physical pressing it brings you to home screen and long press brings up Google assistant
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It's both. The fingerprint sensor is capacitive and works by just placing one's finger on it. There are also many gestures that work on the capacitive sensor like tap to go back long press to view recent apps. The button is also physical pressing it brings you to home screen and long press brings up Google assistant
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Ok Uibon,
So to unlock the phone, do you just place your finger on the sensor (without pressing it down,) or do you have to press it down as well? I ask this as on my Tab S2, having to press down also results in many incorrect reads.
Its a pity Lenovo didn't put a lock screen gesture in the fingerprint scanner like One Plus. It by far the best system I've ever used. :angel:
It works like the fingerprint on the OnePlus.. just place the finger to make it work no pressing the button necessary.
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It works like the fingerprint on the OnePlus.. just place the finger to make it work no pressing the button necessary.
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Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
Masteryates said:
Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
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Just tried screen lock widget and it requires pin to unlock after using it. Finger does not work.
I am using nova prime and double tap to sleep and i can wake from finger print sensor iff you use timeout lockscreen method which means after you double tap the screen to lock the it screen goes black instantlly but the actual full screen lock engages after 30sec allowing the phone to screen to be locked through its own system hence the fingerprint wake works normal. I am not aware of other launchers that have this but nova prime has it.
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Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
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That's an Android security limitation and all phones do that I believe. I think some apps can "trick" the phone by turning the screen off and let the timeout do the locking but I'm not sure.
If you have root access then they'll work. Else they won't. It's a security feature and uses device admin rights to lock the phone. Which means the device admin should unlock it by the most secure way. That's pin password or pattern.
It's not device specific and hence it's nothing to blame Lenovo
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That's an Android security limitation and all phones do that I believe. I think some apps can "trick" the phone by turning the screen off and let the timeout do the locking but I'm not sure.
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You are correct dannejanne. Some OEM's have realised how stupid it is and have sorted it out.
On the One Plus 3, you can securely unlock the phone and relock all with one finger while your phone is on your desk. You can do this better and faster than any other phone. As it's something you do so many times a day, it's time for the other OEM's to blatantly copy this.
I was searching for a way to make Tasker wake phone when I pick it up, so I just have to at it to unlock it. In looking into this, I discovered Gravity Screen, which amongst other things, can wake your phone when you pick it up, straight to Face Unlock. It seems to work well but I'm not sure of the impact on battery. I'm not using it to lock the screen... Really only using it for the one thing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
What do you all think?
saccentekennedy said:
I was searching for a way to make Tasker wake phone when I pick it up, so I just have to at it to unlock it. In looking into this, I discovered Gravity Screen, which amongst other things, can wake your phone when you pick it up, straight to Face Unlock. It seems to work well but I'm not sure of the impact on battery. I'm not using it to lock the screen... Really only using it for the one thing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
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I've been using this app on my last two phones in order to be able to double tap the home screen on my launcher (Action Launcher) to turn off the screen, WITHOUT locking the phone. For some reason though, this no longer works on the OP5T, double tapping just simply won't trigger the screen off shortcut. Really disappointed in this, are you able to get this to work on yours?
I do also use its proximity sensor feature so that it automatically turns the screen on upon removal from my pocket, and it turns the screen back off once I put the phone back into my pocket, which triggers the angle needed to turn the screen off. That feature still works as intended, and better yet, preps the screen for the face unlock. And as far as I can tell, hardly uses any extra battery.
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I've been using this app on my last two phones in order to be able to double tap the home screen on my launcher (Action Launcher) to turn off the screen, WITHOUT locking the phone. For some reason though, this no longer works on the OP5T, double tapping just simply won't trigger the screen off shortcut. Really disappointed in this, are you able to get this to work on yours?
I do also use its proximity sensor feature so that it automatically turns the screen on upon removal from my pocket, and it turns the screen back off once I put the phone back into my pocket, which triggers the angle needed to turn the screen off. That feature still works as intended, and better yet, preps the screen for the face unlock. And as far as I can tell, hardly uses any extra battery.
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Hmmm... I use Nova Launcher and I use the double tap to lock the phone. I've never wanted it to not lock. I wasn't aware that there is a double tap action in Gravity Screen? I'll have a look.
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Hmmm... I use Nova Launcher and I use the double tap to lock the phone. I've never wanted it to not lock. I wasn't aware that there is a double tap action in Gravity Screen? I'll have a look.
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It's not really within Gravity Screen itself, you'd have to use the launcher to set up the double tap on home screen to a shortcut. From there, you can pick one of Gravity Screen's shortcuts that allow you to either just turn off the screen, or do a persistent off screen, where you have to use the power button to bring it back on. I believe the problem I had with using the double tap to lock screen feature built into the launchers is that it forces you to have to enter in a password afterwards...face unlock or fingerprint do not work.
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It's not really within Gravity Screen itself, you'd have to use the launcher to set up the double tap on home screen to a shortcut. From there, you can pick one of Gravity Screen's shortcuts that allow you to either just turn off the screen, or do a persistent off screen, where you have to use the power button to bring it back on. I believe the problem I had with using the double tap to lock screen feature built into the launchers is that it forces you to have to enter in a password afterwards...face unlock or fingerprint do not work.
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Hmmm. Not true with Nova. I double tap to lock and I can use fingerprint to unlock. However, I believe that I requires root for this lock method. Do you have root?
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Hmmm. Not true with Nova. I double tap to lock and I can use fingerprint to unlock. However, I believe that I requires root for this lock method. Do you have root?
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Nope, I don't have root. I did try the same shortcuts with Nova, and it didn't work there either.
have used the app on my old OPO.. now on 5T it's just perfect.. just pick up the phone.. and prepare for landing on homescreen without any tap or button press
does not consume a lot of battery
I've used this in the past as a way to turn on the screen when it comes out of my pocket
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tf.wakeongesture
This application wakes up your phone, and it works well on my OP5T, it's called "Always on AMOLED"you can download it from F-Droid open source apps, Yalp Store and Google Play. I like that it is low on resources, double tap wake up screen option, lock screen clock, date, battery, custom message and notifications.