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[Q] About to be new to Incredible

Hey guys,
This is my first post over here in the Incredible Forums. I'm an Eris user who is about to upgrade to the Inc. next week.
Now, I already know a fair amount about the specs of this device, and have no problems with rooting it right out of the box because I'd rather have CM7 over stock 2.2 Sense any day lol.
But first, I wanted to ask a few simple questions to you guys over here, such as
1)The Droid Eris didn't come with wireless OR wired tethering like the Inc does. I've heard that with the Inc you have to pay Verizon more $ per month for tethering (wireless hotspot). I've already done a little forum browsing and found how to enable wired tether for free on the Inc, but does this wired tether charge more data$ if you go over 5GB? The reason I ask is because the Eris had a loophole on it where if you bought PdaNet (for wired usb tethering) Verizon would let you go way past the 5GB of your $30 "unlimited data plan" mark since you paid $24.99 (or whatever you paid) for the full PdaNet service. Since I did download and buy the full PdaNet, could I put it on my new Inc and allow this loophole to work? With all forms of tether or just wired?
2)CM7 ROM suggestions please! Whats the cleanest one out there in your guys' opinion?
3)Will psxfreedom (the custom Kernal to hack ps3) work on my Inc with CM7 or what ROMs is that confirmed working on?
4)Amon Ra or Clockwork??!! Eris users were always warned not to use Clockwork because it caused issues. What about the Inc?
5)Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?
Thank you guys for your time, and answers. I look forward to becoming a part of the Incredible Forum

Welcome!
1) I used the built in Wireless Tether in Desire Z Roms and went over 5 GB at one point. I never got a scary bill.
2)CM7 Rom? I just use the latest nightly by themselves. Do you have lots of different CM7 flavors for the Eris?
3)It is available. I dont' own a PS3 so I haven't tried it but there is a link here: http://j.mp/dTvW9Q
4)I use Clockwork for the reason that Amon Ra doesn't let you scroll down too far in the SD card when flashing. Minor issue but it's a deal breaker. I've never run into issues with CWM so I can't tell you much about that. WARNING: CWM 3 uses a new update script standard so you won't be able to flash earlier roms. It's also impossible to flash an old one through Rom Manager anymore so you'll have to do it yourself. A guide should be somewhere, I haven't done it before. Sorry.
5)I should probably let the more experienced members tell you anything special
Welcome to the community. We have some awesome devs and I'm sure you'll love this phone.
(If you don't abhor sense then try the rom in my sig. It's pretty nice.)

you can get a uncapped data mod witch dosent give you free wireless but if you go over you data amount,,ie, 5GB,, it wont be governed down ...... you can get an unlimited data plan but still governed over 5GB .......... search for "uncapped data mod" not sure whether the mod is ROM specific or not
welcome to the family!!!

definitely clockwork!

1) I have no experience with wired tethering and haven't heard much about it, but if you go over your 5GB theoretically you'll be capped at a slower speed. There are proclaimed fixes that will uncap this, but no one has really proven it works yet. The free wireless tethering works like a charm.
2) There is really only different versions of the CM ROM, 6.1 is stable but it's froyo, CM7 RC1.5 (gingerbread) is where the nighties are at now. They're getting more and more stable but you may not want to use it as your daily ROM- all up to you though.
3) pianoplayer answered that well
4) I believe this is mostly based on preference. The clockwork that comes with the full rooting process (from unrevoked) works well, and it's the only recovery I've used. So far I haven't had any issues with it, but I've read certain ROM's will require the later build of Clockwork.
5) Hmm, depends on what you consider interesting
The incredible dev's have put together some pretty great ROM's.
A couple that stand out the most as being more unique, that the Droid Eris probably doesn't have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920804

settlethestorm said:
Hey guys,
This is my first post over here in the Incredible Forums. I'm an Eris user who is about to upgrade to the Inc. next week.
Now, I already know a fair amount about the specs of this device, and have no problems with rooting it right out of the box because I'd rather have CM7 over stock 2.2 Sense any day lol.
But first, I wanted to ask a few simple questions to you guys over here, such as
1)The Droid Eris didn't come with wireless OR wired tethering like the Inc does. I've heard that with the Inc you have to pay Verizon more $ per month for tethering (wireless hotspot). I've already done a little forum browsing and found how to enable wired tether for free on the Inc, but does this wired tether charge more data$ if you go over 5GB? The reason I ask is because the Eris had a loophole on it where if you bought PdaNet (for wired usb tethering) Verizon would let you go way past the 5GB of your $30 "unlimited data plan" mark since you paid $24.99 (or whatever you paid) for the full PdaNet service. Since I did download and buy the full PdaNet, could I put it on my new Inc and allow this loophole to work? With all forms of tether or just wired?
2)CM7 ROM suggestions please! Whats the cleanest one out there in your guys' opinion?
3)Will psxfreedom (the custom Kernal to hack ps3) work on my Inc with CM7 or what ROMs is that confirmed working on?
4)Amon Ra or Clockwork??!! Eris users were always warned not to use Clockwork because it caused issues. What about the Inc?
5)Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?
Thank you guys for your time, and answers. I look forward to becoming a part of the Incredible Forum
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My $.02
1) Wireless tether works like a champ. I VPN into my works network through the wireless tether with no issues at all (in fact I am wirelessly tethered now )
2) I'm loving CM7 #11 with Chad's 2272011 kernel. Good battery life, excellent speed/stability
3) I'm clueless
4) Clockwork
5) Have Fun !!!

I use wireless tether all the time. CM7 has it built in. As far as I know, the 5GB limit is where your speed gets throttled. You don't get charged more as long as you have the unlimited data plan.
I currently using CM7 RC1 and it's been pretty stable. One or two reboots a week.
I never used AR recovery, always been on Clockwork and like it.

[Q] Verizon and un-authorised wireless tethering

I have a Galaxy Nexus on order from Verizon - should get it tomorrow - and had a
a question.
I have been using this app - android-wifi-tether
to get wireless tethering on my Droid 2 Global and Verizon has never tried to charge me for it.
I read on another forum that ICS may have flags for un-authorised tethering so the phone companies can tell easier.
Is there any truth to this ? Is there anymore chance of getting caught tethering using the Nexus than my Droid 2 Global ?
I dont tether that often - only in power outages and where there is no wifi.
Thanks,
Brett

Should be in Q&A!
I have been using that app, WiFi tether for over a month now with my GN and for years on my other phones. No problems. You will be fine.

Should be but to answer,
There are ways around this. Custom roms have the Verizon meat hooks ripped out and allow typical wifi tethering. Using the stock rom, they can monitor it and will cut you off.
EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4
Asus Transformer - ICS

player911 said:
Should be but to answer,
There are ways around this. Custom roms have the Verizon meat hooks ripped out and allow typical wifi tethering. Using the stock rom, they can monitor it and will cut you off.
EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4
Asus Transformer - ICS
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I wonder how aggressive they are with this ?
I have been tethering for over a year intermittently
on my droid 2 global and they havent charged me yet.
That phone is rooted but with stock rom and kernal.
I am sure the amount of data I have used while tethered
is very low - may have been beneath their radar/care level.

BrettXNA said:
I wonder how aggressive they are with this ?
I have been tethering for over a year intermittently
on my droid 2 global and they havent charged me yet.
That phone is rooted but with stock rom and kernal.
I am sure the amount of data I have used while tethered
is very low - may have been beneath their radar/care level.
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Yeah its hard to say... everyone has different experience. The only sure-fire way to know you're "undetected" (as much as you can be) is to be running a completely custom ROM.
Lots of people report just using a root app works also. Other people have been reporting that using the built-in tethering options work, but I wouldn't trust that.

Verizon has never really been known to go after tethering customers, but I've been using custom ROM for months and they haven't said anything

I have been lurking around these forums for a long time now, and I have NEVER once seen the thread or post that says, "I got caught tethering using WiFi Tether". I have on several occasion, on threads just like this one, asked anyone to point me towards that post or thread, so far NOT ONE PERSON has been able to point me to that post/thread. So again I will ask: Can somebody please show me one post or thread of a user getting caught tethering with WiFi Tether!?

[POLL] How Long Before You Rooted SGS3?

Quick Poll: how long before you had your brand-new Samsung Galaxy S III before you rooted it?

Really just depends on familiarity of the process. As I came from a Nexus S, I was used to the google experience. I could not stand TouchWiz. Basically within hours of obtaining the phone, I rooted and flashed custom rom/kernel.

I would have to say anyone coming to this forum. And are reading this has already done it within the first week.

I thought I would root it the first day because I've never really been a fan of the touchwiz stuff but to my surprise it had some nice features and didn't look half bad. The motion stuff in particular is handy, and Wi-Fi calling is great. But at the end of the day I like a pretty clean notification area plus all the customisatiocustomization, so now I'm running a hybrid of CyanogenMod, AOKP, and ParanoidAndroid called Paranoid Kangdroid. Loving all the tweaks even if I sacrifice a little stability.

You'd be surprised how long some will stay on stock if it works right, and battery life is good. I've read people in these forums that say, non rooted and stock rom.
me on the other hand, since root was already achievable and un-root was a guarantee I rooted and flashed a rom within 1 hour lol.

As soon as my wife gave the green light (about a month after purchase) so that i could install wifi hotspot root required version (that i now cannot get working after the JB update!) LOL.

I rooted mine within 30 mins of getting home and the ONLY reason it took that long was because I had to Root my wife's phone first (my vote was for "Right out of the box").
BUT, Rooting didn't mean Flashing. Yes I did Root it that quick, but I stayed on Stock LH2 for about 3 days or so and then flashed a kernel and finally succumbed to the "need" to flash. So I think that your question is valid, but I don't think it is really what you want to know (or maybe it is).
Main reasons I rooted was because I was restoring through Titanium and, this is a personal preference, I will root any and every device I own and have since I first came to this site. That does not mean that I haphazardly flash something or run some auto-root.apk without reading and know what will happen *during* the root process.
Once you are Rooted, it is Cake City, USA. Getting there is where the fun is. My very first phone was rooted with an apk, but then we had to run terminal hacks to force App2sd on Eclair. Imagine your very first Android phone and having to run terminal hacks. Not fun or easy back then.

I did it in the parking lot at Costco about 5 minutes after getting it while my wife shopped. Had my laptop and my company hot spot with me. : )

Within an hour of taking it out of the box.
Coming from a long line of Sense use (Hero roms on G1, Desire roms on HD2, myTouch 4G and Amaze 4G), the only reason I got the phone was because I broke my Amaze 4G (best phone I've owned so far, better than SGS III imho) T-Mobile didn't carry HTC One X and One S wouldn't have felt like an upgrade from my Amaze 4G (and from what I've read, it wasn't).
I had never owned a Samsung android device, so I played with it for about 30 minutes. I couldn't stand it. Between all the hints, hand holding, and constant nagging of motion "features", plus the bloat, and a general feeling of slugishness, I decided to go with CM 9.
It was the "features" I had the most problems with. They were very, very, very unintuitive. You had to learn them, and I've tried, since I actually went back to touch wiz after problems with CM and gave it a week, but still, I couldn't put up with Samsung's changes, which felt like they were just changes to stock android just for the sake of being different and often added nothing or even made functionality worse. It pretty much felt like every CM rom pre-CM9 if you ever used those, "features" upon features and menus upon menus upon menus that complicated the experience and robbed the build of any sort of cohesion. I'm glad CM 9 and 10 did better, otherwise I would have had to make my bone-stock AOSP rom.

I rooted just getting home from tmobile. Want to restore all my stuff as soon as possible. Then I flashed a rom later that night when I got home drunk lol
Sent from Flip's S3

As soon as I got home and after taking a dump.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

"Right out of the box."
I was busy flashing my old Hercules for my mom's purposes on the car ride home.
Dif. modem, wallpaper, ringtone, and contacts.
Used zedomax's method.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

[Q] Regarding WiFi Calling...

With the release of the M9, I've been considering trying to find a good condition used M8 for cheap(ish).
I'm no stranger to unlocking and modding a phone, but I'm having a hard time getting a handle on WiFi calling on this one. It seems like it kind of works on some mods but requires certain radio versions be flashed, and a lot of situations are solved by giving up and flashing a T-mo stock OS. Then there's the inclusion of WFC into Android as a stock feature at some unknown point in the future, maybe 4.1 but only on the Nexus 6 at first..?
So for those of you who actually already own the phones and have been playing around with them for awhile now, do you think it's even worth getting an unlocked/non-Tmo M8 if I need to have WiFi calling? Or is it better to just get a T-mo M8 to start with and deal with de-bloating it? And how bad do you think the bloat is in the first place?

Brew78 said:
With the release of the M9, I've been considering trying to find a good condition used M8 for cheap(ish).
I'm no stranger to unlocking and modding a phone, but I'm having a hard time getting a handle on WiFi calling on this one. It seems like it kind of works on some mods but requires certain radio versions be flashed, and a lot of situations are solved by giving up and flashing a T-mo stock OS. Then there's the inclusion of WFC into Android as a stock feature at some unknown point in the future, maybe 4.1 but only on the Nexus 6 at first..?
So for those of you who actually already own the phones and have been playing around with them for awhile now, do you think it's even worth getting an unlocked/non-Tmo M8 if I need to have WiFi calling? Or is it better to just get a T-mo M8 to start with and deal with de-bloating it? And how bad do you think the bloat is in the first place?
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For t-mobile wifi calling I believe you need to have the phone setup as a t-mobile phone. So if the phone is a non-t-mobile phone, you need to run a t-mobile ROM, which might include flash different firmware and setting other items. From what I know, the ROMS that have the t-mobile wifi calling in them used the t-mobile ROM as a based (but I could be wrong), and those that do not typically are other GSM based ROMS.
Remember that depending on your plan, you could just use google voice over 3g/4g or wifi also.

Kind of figured it was something like that, thanks. In the end, I actually wound up with a Moto X since they had that package deal with the headphones last week and I was in the market for a new set anyway. Guess I gotta do without Wi-Fi calling for now.

This user was able to get it to work, so you might try flashing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-htc-one-m8/general/t-mobile-wifi-calling-t3058708

Samsung Galaxy S4 MetroPCS (SGH-M919N)

Hello all so I have recently swtiched to MetroPCS and the phone I currently have is a Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919N)
SGH-M919N
Version 4.4.4
It is completely stock.
After paying for the 60$ unlimited plan I guess now at the start of the month they include a free 6.7gb of data, or maybe it was only for the activation, because I haven't been with them in a while I'm not sure.
Regardless, I burned through that overnight, so I found this "Google Chrome Extension" that allows for unlimited hotspot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ejhaP2aJI
However it does allow me to browse, but at extremely slow speeds (~76kbps) and sometimes it doesn't even fully load webpages or it gives me a 403 FORBIDDEN error. When I was on the MetroPCS actual hotspot I was pushing 10mpbs so I know the speed is far faster.
Basically I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get the full speed and bypass this thing, I can even tether but again it's still slow as heck.
Also, I have a lot of MetroPCS bloatware on there, Rhapsody playlist is one of the things on the top of one of the home screens that I can't even move, I wanted to know what was the best custom recovery/ROM to install. I know there's a one click or one touch automatic root or something...but I'd prefer to do it the way I did my M7 unless it's recommended to do it that way.
I had the M7 for T-Mobile with ARHD installed and TWRP which was nice it was fully functional it was my first time for both of those types of mods and everything went smoothly. (~a month ago)
I switched phones because my HTC's headphone jack stopped working and I had a guy who was willing to trade me phones, his Galaxy was fully functional and even though I explained to him my phone wasn't completely he told me he fixes phones all the time, thus the trade was made.
But for this particular phone....especially considering it's MetroPCS I am having a God-awful time finding any information online especially regarding my issue. Also for those that say, "Just pay for more data" I am a broke college student and I use this to do my school work...aside from going to the library, which sometimes is way too packed and there's usually no where to sit (I'm a UofA student) this is the only way for me to do anything.
If anyone has any information tutorials etc I would greatly appreciate it, I read some forums but none addressed my issue and none seemed to lead me in the right direction. I don't HAVE to install a custom ROM right off the bat...I can deal with the bloatware but what I NEED absolutely right now is the full speed of the hotspot.
Thanks everyone!​