Hey guys,
This is my first post over here in the Incredible Forums. I'm an Eris user who is about to upgrade to the Inc. next week.
Now, I already know a fair amount about the specs of this device, and have no problems with rooting it right out of the box because I'd rather have CM7 over stock 2.2 Sense any day lol.
But first, I wanted to ask a few simple questions to you guys over here, such as
1)The Droid Eris didn't come with wireless OR wired tethering like the Inc does. I've heard that with the Inc you have to pay Verizon more $ per month for tethering (wireless hotspot). I've already done a little forum browsing and found how to enable wired tether for free on the Inc, but does this wired tether charge more data$ if you go over 5GB? The reason I ask is because the Eris had a loophole on it where if you bought PdaNet (for wired usb tethering) Verizon would let you go way past the 5GB of your $30 "unlimited data plan" mark since you paid $24.99 (or whatever you paid) for the full PdaNet service. Since I did download and buy the full PdaNet, could I put it on my new Inc and allow this loophole to work? With all forms of tether or just wired?
2)CM7 ROM suggestions please! Whats the cleanest one out there in your guys' opinion?
3)Will psxfreedom (the custom Kernal to hack ps3) work on my Inc with CM7 or what ROMs is that confirmed working on?
4)Amon Ra or Clockwork??!! Eris users were always warned not to use Clockwork because it caused issues. What about the Inc?
5)Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?
Thank you guys for your time, and answers. I look forward to becoming a part of the Incredible Forum
Welcome!
1) I used the built in Wireless Tether in Desire Z Roms and went over 5 GB at one point. I never got a scary bill.
2)CM7 Rom? I just use the latest nightly by themselves. Do you have lots of different CM7 flavors for the Eris?
3)It is available. I dont' own a PS3 so I haven't tried it but there is a link here: http://j.mp/dTvW9Q
4)I use Clockwork for the reason that Amon Ra doesn't let you scroll down too far in the SD card when flashing. Minor issue but it's a deal breaker. I've never run into issues with CWM so I can't tell you much about that. WARNING: CWM 3 uses a new update script standard so you won't be able to flash earlier roms. It's also impossible to flash an old one through Rom Manager anymore so you'll have to do it yourself. A guide should be somewhere, I haven't done it before. Sorry.
5)I should probably let the more experienced members tell you anything special
Welcome to the community. We have some awesome devs and I'm sure you'll love this phone.
(If you don't abhor sense then try the rom in my sig. It's pretty nice.)
you can get a uncapped data mod witch dosent give you free wireless but if you go over you data amount,,ie, 5GB,, it wont be governed down ...... you can get an unlimited data plan but still governed over 5GB .......... search for "uncapped data mod" not sure whether the mod is ROM specific or not
welcome to the family!!!
definitely clockwork!
1) I have no experience with wired tethering and haven't heard much about it, but if you go over your 5GB theoretically you'll be capped at a slower speed. There are proclaimed fixes that will uncap this, but no one has really proven it works yet. The free wireless tethering works like a charm.
2) There is really only different versions of the CM ROM, 6.1 is stable but it's froyo, CM7 RC1.5 (gingerbread) is where the nighties are at now. They're getting more and more stable but you may not want to use it as your daily ROM- all up to you though.
3) pianoplayer answered that well
4) I believe this is mostly based on preference. The clockwork that comes with the full rooting process (from unrevoked) works well, and it's the only recovery I've used. So far I haven't had any issues with it, but I've read certain ROM's will require the later build of Clockwork.
5) Hmm, depends on what you consider interesting
The incredible dev's have put together some pretty great ROM's.
A couple that stand out the most as being more unique, that the Droid Eris probably doesn't have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920804
settlethestorm said:
Hey guys,
This is my first post over here in the Incredible Forums. I'm an Eris user who is about to upgrade to the Inc. next week.
Now, I already know a fair amount about the specs of this device, and have no problems with rooting it right out of the box because I'd rather have CM7 over stock 2.2 Sense any day lol.
But first, I wanted to ask a few simple questions to you guys over here, such as
1)The Droid Eris didn't come with wireless OR wired tethering like the Inc does. I've heard that with the Inc you have to pay Verizon more $ per month for tethering (wireless hotspot). I've already done a little forum browsing and found how to enable wired tether for free on the Inc, but does this wired tether charge more data$ if you go over 5GB? The reason I ask is because the Eris had a loophole on it where if you bought PdaNet (for wired usb tethering) Verizon would let you go way past the 5GB of your $30 "unlimited data plan" mark since you paid $24.99 (or whatever you paid) for the full PdaNet service. Since I did download and buy the full PdaNet, could I put it on my new Inc and allow this loophole to work? With all forms of tether or just wired?
2)CM7 ROM suggestions please! Whats the cleanest one out there in your guys' opinion?
3)Will psxfreedom (the custom Kernal to hack ps3) work on my Inc with CM7 or what ROMs is that confirmed working on?
4)Amon Ra or Clockwork??!! Eris users were always warned not to use Clockwork because it caused issues. What about the Inc?
5)Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?
Thank you guys for your time, and answers. I look forward to becoming a part of the Incredible Forum
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My $.02
1) Wireless tether works like a champ. I VPN into my works network through the wireless tether with no issues at all (in fact I am wirelessly tethered now )
2) I'm loving CM7 #11 with Chad's 2272011 kernel. Good battery life, excellent speed/stability
3) I'm clueless
4) Clockwork
5) Have Fun !!!
I use wireless tether all the time. CM7 has it built in. As far as I know, the 5GB limit is where your speed gets throttled. You don't get charged more as long as you have the unlimited data plan.
I currently using CM7 RC1 and it's been pretty stable. One or two reboots a week.
I never used AR recovery, always been on Clockwork and like it.
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I know people are working on it, but it doesn't look good now. I want to buy an evo soon, but no root kind of kills it. I can't use the wifi tether without root as I understand it and that is important to me. I guess there are some others that work without root but then you have to install software or something and thats kind of useless.
So does anyone know if it will definately get rooted?
I could probably live with the FPS issue, and I'd rather have the better camera than what comes with the epic, but no way I'm paying rediculous money for wifi tethering when i'm already paying 10 dollars per month extra for 4G that I don't have.
I'm sure it will get rooted soon enough. With that said, I can't even get Wifi tether to work right lol so I have been using easy tether
If it is the same steps they took on the Rogers HTC Dream, you might be waiting a really long time. As far as I know, root is still impossible on ones that have had the new rom flashed.
Does Sprint charge for usb tethering or just the hot spot? Tried calling and got the typical "What's tethering?" response. Also did a search here and didn't find any thing. My plan details are not telling either.
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If you root, you will get free USB or wireless tethering. I rooted both of our Evo's specifically to get that working. I loaded the Sprint Lovers rom and it's all working perfectly. I just spent a few days at the MIL's house and used the heck out of it.
There are other advantages to rooting, too, like a bigger selection of apps, custom roms, etc.
Well, that's why I ask. I need to be able to tether, but not wirelessly. On my old TP2, and clear back to my Apache for that matter, it was simply a registry hack and most of the roms had stealth built in, so I never worried about it. But, with the EVO, it seems that stealth has to be dome by root, and root is a right swine to achieve at this point, due to the recent OTA. Thus, if I can use the usb tether without charge, then I will until things settle down a bit.
However, I am not keen on paying Sprint another $30 a month on top of the extra charge for unlimited data, because that would be redundant. Not to mention the extra $10 a month that I have to pay which the guy at the store called the "Coolness Charge" So, when I figure it out I will root and put the screws to the Powers That Be. But, for now, I need to have a contingency plan because college classes are almost all internet submitted, and work won't let me use their wifi, and tends to get touchy when you try hacking it...
Ivanstein said:
Well, that's why I ask. I need to be able to tether, but not wirelessly. On my old TP2, and clear back to my Apache for that matter, it was simply a registry hack and most of the roms had stealth built in, so I never worried about it. But, with the EVO, it seems that stealth has to be dome by root, and root is a right swine to achieve at this point, due to the recent OTA. Thus, if I can use the usb tether without charge, then I will until things settle down a bit.
However, I am not keen on paying Sprint another $30 a month on top of the extra charge for unlimited data, because that would be redundant. Not to mention the extra $10 a month that I have to pay which the guy at the store called the "Coolness Charge" So, when I figure it out I will root and put the screws to the Powers That Be. But, for now, I need to have a contingency plan because college classes are almost all internet submitted, and work won't let me use their wifi, and tends to get touchy when you try hacking it...
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Just root using unrEVOked and then go to the wifi tether website and download the most current version of the application and you will be able to put out a strong G signal. Or use pda net for wired tethering.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
klquicksall said:
Just root using unrEVOked and then go to the wifi tether website and download the most current version of the application and you will be able to put out a strong G signal. Or use pda net for wired tethering.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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I have been reading that unrEVOked3 looses the 4G encryption keys, has that changed?
I have a Galaxy Nexus on order from Verizon - should get it tomorrow - and had a
a question.
I have been using this app - android-wifi-tether
to get wireless tethering on my Droid 2 Global and Verizon has never tried to charge me for it.
I read on another forum that ICS may have flags for un-authorised tethering so the phone companies can tell easier.
Is there any truth to this ? Is there anymore chance of getting caught tethering using the Nexus than my Droid 2 Global ?
I dont tether that often - only in power outages and where there is no wifi.
Thanks,
Brett
Should be in Q&A!
I have been using that app, WiFi tether for over a month now with my GN and for years on my other phones. No problems. You will be fine.
Should be but to answer,
There are ways around this. Custom roms have the Verizon meat hooks ripped out and allow typical wifi tethering. Using the stock rom, they can monitor it and will cut you off.
EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4
Asus Transformer - ICS
player911 said:
Should be but to answer,
There are ways around this. Custom roms have the Verizon meat hooks ripped out and allow typical wifi tethering. Using the stock rom, they can monitor it and will cut you off.
EXT LTE Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.4
Asus Transformer - ICS
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I wonder how aggressive they are with this ?
I have been tethering for over a year intermittently
on my droid 2 global and they havent charged me yet.
That phone is rooted but with stock rom and kernal.
I am sure the amount of data I have used while tethered
is very low - may have been beneath their radar/care level.
BrettXNA said:
I wonder how aggressive they are with this ?
I have been tethering for over a year intermittently
on my droid 2 global and they havent charged me yet.
That phone is rooted but with stock rom and kernal.
I am sure the amount of data I have used while tethered
is very low - may have been beneath their radar/care level.
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Yeah its hard to say... everyone has different experience. The only sure-fire way to know you're "undetected" (as much as you can be) is to be running a completely custom ROM.
Lots of people report just using a root app works also. Other people have been reporting that using the built-in tethering options work, but I wouldn't trust that.
Verizon has never really been known to go after tethering customers, but I've been using custom ROM for months and they haven't said anything
I have been lurking around these forums for a long time now, and I have NEVER once seen the thread or post that says, "I got caught tethering using WiFi Tether". I have on several occasion, on threads just like this one, asked anyone to point me towards that post or thread, so far NOT ONE PERSON has been able to point me to that post/thread. So again I will ask: Can somebody please show me one post or thread of a user getting caught tethering with WiFi Tether!?
I started using this site when rooting my Droid I. I have since had a GS 2, GS 3, Droid Razr, now HTC One M8 (all Verizon), all with custom roms. I have almost no posts because I have spent hours on top of hours reading threads... I have come to the end of my rope on this one and need to actually post a question.
On all of the custom roms I have installed, WiFi tethering has been built in. I am not sure what the technical jargon is, but I mean that the tethering had no effect on my bill. I have unlimited data so I use a lot of data. I have recently flashed my HTC One M8 with ViperOne after many hours of reading. To my disappointment when I launched the HotSpot app I got a warning saying that I needed Verizons service to use it. This has never happened with previous roms on other devices. I looked at InsertCoin and Revolution HD and both seem to be set up the same as ViperOne in that I must use Verizon's service. Does the Cynogenmod rom also need this, it looked like no? Anyhow, I am looking for a rom that does not require the Verizon Hotspot service. I have also tried the WiFi Tether that has been mentioned in several threads, but it does not work for me. I have used 3rd party apps in the past and they never seem to work as smooth as the built in tethering. I am not trying to bash the current roms, each of them are light years beyond what a rom built by me would look like. This site and the outstanding Android devs on it are the reason I am not an iPhone user.
cpa950462 said:
I started using this site when rooting my Droid I. I have since had a GS 2, GS 3, Droid Razr, now HTC One M8 (all Verizon), all with custom roms. I have almost no posts because I have spent hours on top of hours reading threads... I have come to the end of my rope on this one and need to actually post a question.
On all of the custom roms I have installed, WiFi tethering has been built in. I am not sure what the technical jargon is, but I mean that the tethering had no effect on my bill. I have unlimited data so I use a lot of data. I have recently flashed my HTC One M8 with ViperOne after many hours of reading. To my disappointment when I launched the HotSpot app I got a warning saying that I needed Verizons service to use it. This has never happened with previous roms on other devices. I looked at InsertCoin and Revolution HD and both seem to be set up the same as ViperOne in that I must use Verizon's service. Does the Cynogenmod rom also need this, it looked like no? Anyhow, I am looking for a rom that does not require the Verizon Hotspot service. I have also tried the WiFi Tether that has been mentioned in several threads, but it does not work for me. I have used 3rd party apps in the past and they never seem to work as smooth as the built in tethering. I am not trying to bash the current roms, each of them are light years beyond what a rom built by me would look like. This site and the outstanding Android devs on it are the reason I am not an iPhone user.
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I have answered my own question. I installed the CM Nightly rom and the AP works fine.
Hello all so I have recently swtiched to MetroPCS and the phone I currently have is a Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919N)
SGH-M919N
Version 4.4.4
It is completely stock.
After paying for the 60$ unlimited plan I guess now at the start of the month they include a free 6.7gb of data, or maybe it was only for the activation, because I haven't been with them in a while I'm not sure.
Regardless, I burned through that overnight, so I found this "Google Chrome Extension" that allows for unlimited hotspot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ejhaP2aJI
However it does allow me to browse, but at extremely slow speeds (~76kbps) and sometimes it doesn't even fully load webpages or it gives me a 403 FORBIDDEN error. When I was on the MetroPCS actual hotspot I was pushing 10mpbs so I know the speed is far faster.
Basically I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get the full speed and bypass this thing, I can even tether but again it's still slow as heck.
Also, I have a lot of MetroPCS bloatware on there, Rhapsody playlist is one of the things on the top of one of the home screens that I can't even move, I wanted to know what was the best custom recovery/ROM to install. I know there's a one click or one touch automatic root or something...but I'd prefer to do it the way I did my M7 unless it's recommended to do it that way.
I had the M7 for T-Mobile with ARHD installed and TWRP which was nice it was fully functional it was my first time for both of those types of mods and everything went smoothly. (~a month ago)
I switched phones because my HTC's headphone jack stopped working and I had a guy who was willing to trade me phones, his Galaxy was fully functional and even though I explained to him my phone wasn't completely he told me he fixes phones all the time, thus the trade was made.
But for this particular phone....especially considering it's MetroPCS I am having a God-awful time finding any information online especially regarding my issue. Also for those that say, "Just pay for more data" I am a broke college student and I use this to do my school work...aside from going to the library, which sometimes is way too packed and there's usually no where to sit (I'm a UofA student) this is the only way for me to do anything.
If anyone has any information tutorials etc I would greatly appreciate it, I read some forums but none addressed my issue and none seemed to lead me in the right direction. I don't HAVE to install a custom ROM right off the bat...I can deal with the bloatware but what I NEED absolutely right now is the full speed of the hotspot.
Thanks everyone!